CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

adgal

Veteran Member
We are likely correct in assuming that German man who caught the virus from the Chinese woman was Caucasian, but I have not read that is definitely so. There is still that lingering question in my mind.

Also, Dr. Ted Broer, in his radio broadcast, yesterday, said he has a friend in China, who told him medical personnel are afraid to go to work, but they have been threatened if they do not go to work, they will lose their medical licenses forever.
The article I read said the man was German.

"A German man infected with the Wuhan coronavirus has become the first European to catch the deadly illness outside of China, officials have confirmed.
The 33-year-old caught the disease in his home country on January 21 from a colleague who was visiting from China and later became ill on her flight home. She was from Shanghai but had recently visited her parents in Wuhan."
 

jaw1969

Senior Member
The chinese were weaponizig this thing to kill america. They let it loose there in order to cull their over population and made sure it was spread here and world wide. They are panicked now sensing this truth may come out and if it does, the million suns will land on their land not ours. Whoever was behind allowing them to do business with america, allow them to come here in mass and buy or land, feed our children, make our medicines need to be hung. I'm pointing to you Cocaine Mitch!
And that may be true but as China what would you rather do blame your enemy and then do the appropriate response then drop a tactical nuke on the epicenter and blame that on us also
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Whoa, slow down girl.

The chinese were weaponizig this thing to kill america. They let it loose there in order to cull their over population and made sure it was spread here and world wide. They are panicked now sensing this truth may come out and if it does, the million suns will land on their land not ours. Whoever was behind allowing them to do business with america, allow them to come here in mass and buy or land, feed our children, make our medicines need to be hung. I'm pointing to you Cocaine Mitch!
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Also, Dr. Ted Broer, in his radio broadcast, yesterday, said he has a friend in China, who told him medical personnel are afraid to go to work, but they have been threatened if they do not go to work, they will lose their medical licenses forever.

Have no trouble believing that. Any government would make the same threat.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
While it is remotely possible our Barvarian German wasn't European I think it is highly unlikely - I mean I'm guessing that Bavaria is probably like rural Ireland in that most larger villages have one Chinese Take-Out or even resturant run by a Chinese family, but this person worked at a car manufacturer.

I could be wrong, but I think the press would probably have said:"of Oriental descent" if this had been someone who was a "Chinese German" (who I am sure exist, just like the Chinese Irish).
 

ktrapper

Veteran Member
We are likely correct in assuming that German man who caught the virus from the Chinese woman was Caucasian, but I have not read that is definitely so. There is still that lingering question in my mind.

Also, Dr. Ted Broer, in his radio broadcast, yesterday, said he has a friend in China, who told him medical personnel are afraid to go to work, but they have been threatened if they do not go to work, they will lose their medical licenses forever.
They might decide that loosing their medical license for ever is better than being dead forever.
 

Flashyzipp

Veteran Member
I am not sure why my quotes are not working but it is genetically impossible to create a bio weapon that can target a specific ethnicity. If I am wrong please explain the science to me and to others who studied ethnicity intensively. Do you know what ethnicity is? The Asian people are comprised of many ethnicities and so were those who are Caucasian.
 

homepark

Resist
The Lancet article was a longitudinal study of 40 patients. The number of total deaths and the number of current infections will not give you a meaningful death rate. You need to follow those currently infected to do that.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I am not sure why my quotes are not working but it is genetically impossible to create a bio weapon that can target a specific ethnicity. If I am wrong please explain the science to me and to others who studied ethnicity intensively. Do you know what ethnicity is? The Asian people are comprised of many ethnicities and so were those who are Caucasian.
Yep, that is my understanding as well, which again is why I don't think such a thing is likely in this case.
 

pinkelsteinsmom

Veteran Member
Like I've said in previous posts. This might very well be China's Trojan horse. Bioengineered to be mild on Asians. They are deceptively acting like they are doing all they can, while they know full well it can't be stopped and will circle the globe. I remember a Chinese general several years ago, gave a speech, that I read the transcript for, basically saying he thought they should do this very thing. How convenient that the timeline for this happens during their holiday season while families are together.

If this thing takes off here in the states and really starts ravaging non Asians. I surely hope Donald Trump is prepared to pull the trigger on China. Whatever it may take. I'd be on the phone with Putan setting up a deal, because you can bet if this is engineered it will ravage the white Russians too.

The Chinese are evil, and their country is slipping. Look at Hong Kong, look at global trade, the world and America has called them out. They don't have many cards left to play, so they play this, trying to be deceptive like they are.


Only by using non-destructive weapons that can kill many
people will we be able to reserve America for ourselves. There has been
rapid development of modern biological technology, and new bio weapons have
been invented one after another. Of course we have not been idle; in the past

years we have seized the opportunity to master weapons of this kind. We are
capable of achieving our purpose of “cleaning up” America all of a sudden.


When Comrade Xiaoping was still with us, the Party Central Committee
had the perspicacity to make the right decision not to develop aircraft
carrier groups and focus instead on developing lethal weapons that can
eliminate mass populations of the enemy country.


From a humanitarian perspective, we should issue a warning to the
American people and persuade them to leave America and leave the land
they have lived in to the Chinese people. Or at least they should leave half
of the United States to be China’s colony, because America was first
discovered by the Chinese. But would this work? If this strategy does not
work, then there is only one choice left to us.

That is, use decisive means to“clean up” America, and reserve America for our use in a moment. Our
historical experience has proven that as long as we make it happen, nobody
in the world can do anything about us. Furthermore, if the United States as
the leader is gone, then other enemies have to surrender to us.

Biological weapons are unprecedented in their ruthlessness, but if the
Americans do not die then the Chinese have to die. If the Chinese people are

strapped to the present land, a total societal collapse is bound to take place.
According to the computation of the author of Yellow Peril, more than half of
the Chinese will die, and that figure would be more than 800 million people!
Just after the liberation, our yellow land supported nearly 500 million people,
while today the official figure of the population is more than 1.3 billion. This
yellow land has reached the limit of its capacity. One day, who knows how soon
it will come, the great collapse will occur any time and more than half of the
population will have to go.

We must prepare ourselves for two scenarios. If our biological weapons
succeed in the surprise attack [on the United States, the Chinese people will
be able to keep their losses at a minimum in the fight against the United

States. If, however, the attack fails and triggers a nuclear retaliation from the
United States, China would perhaps suffer a catastrophe in which more than
half of its population would perish. That is why we need to be ready with air
defense systems for our big and medium-sized cities. Whatever the case may
be, we can only move forward fearlessly for the sake of our Party and state and
our nation’s future, regardless of the hardships we have to face and the
sacrifices we have to make. The population, even if more than half dies, can be

[link to thelibertyman.com]
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
They might decide that loosing their medical license for ever is better than being dead forever.
In modern China, not going in is still likely to result in being dead forever once The Party gets ahold of you, and they might decide to shoot your family as well.

Which is one reason I think we are seeing what may be "last meals" with doctors and their families before they are put on the bus to the center of the epidemic.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
adgal, in all due respect, just because we are told he is German doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't be a different ethnicity...not all German citizens are Caucasian.
I just said that but it is unlikely because usually, at least the European Press will say something other than Bavarian; but we should know more in a day or two.

If this lady was a contagious as is suspected, there will be more cases probably from the meeting and the airplanes/airports etc.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Once again, brief and to the point - for decades biowarfare labs looked into targeting specific genetic groups which technically is possible in some cases except that it isn't practical in real life.

The reason is humans are too mixed up for it to work, just about anything that will target "one" group also targets a whole bunch of other people, for example,one article I read explained how anything that would wipe out "Jews" would also wipe out "most Arabs" (and most Jews).

Anything that would only attack Asians would also go after anyone of Native American ancestry including a huge portion of Americans - European, African or Hispanic background because anyone whose family has been in the US more than 100 years is likely to have some Native American ancestry.

So in practice it DOES NOT WORK, even when it sort of does in a test tube.

People let their social understanding cloud the scientific understanding of the issue of race.

Socially there are multiple races. Scientifically there is only ONE RACE … the human race.

It is like that gender nonsense that is so prevalent these days. People are going to believe what they want to believe but science says something else completely.
 

GammaRat

Veteran Member
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Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Also, Dr. Ted Broer, in his radio broadcast, yesterday, said he has a friend in China, who told him medical personnel are afraid to go to work, but they have been threatened if they do not go to work, they will lose their medical licenses forever.

That exists in many US Pandemic plans. Essentially a medical draft.
 

naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
People let their social understanding cloud the scientific understanding of the issue of race.

Socially there are multiple races. Scientifically there is only ONE RACE … the human race.

It is like that gender nonsense that is so prevalent these days. People are going to believe what they want to believe but science says something else completely.
there is one human species. Race does not mean species. We are more genetically different by race, than dogs are with wolves or polar bears are with black bears.

IF gene targeted viruses are even possible, they would be targeting Denison genes. Which make up to 10% of some Asian populatiome and are officially classified as a different species.

I personally prefer to use race. But use breeds instead if you must. But please, don't virtue signal by pretending human biodiversity doesn't exist and we are all a homogenous , sexless blob. I can't take anyone seriously that goes down the sjw religion lies.
 

Flashyzipp

Veteran Member
People let their social understanding cloud the scientific understanding of the issue of race.

Socially there are multiple races. Scientifically there is only ONE RACE … the human race.

It is like that gender nonsense that is so prevalent these days. People are going to believe what they want to believe but science says something else completely.

Yes!!! It’s been a few years since I was in school, and this is what I was trying to say. We are humans.
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic
Dr. Dena Grayson‏Verified account @DrDenaGrayson 1h1 hour ago

“Traditionally, WHO is reluctant to antagonise or ostracise countries dealing with epidemics for fear of undermining future willingness to report cases.” What’s the point of having a “global health emergency” designation if you won’t use it?
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northern watch

TB Fanatic
CBC News Alerts‏Verified account @CBCAlerts 2h2 hours ago

Cathay Pacific cutting capacity of flights to and from China by 50% due to coronavirus outbreak. Airline says flights to be reduced 'progressively' effective this Thursday through end of March. Passengers told to check flight status; rebooking, rerouting and refund fees waived.
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic
National Post‏Verified account @nationalpost 13m13 minutes ago

Coronavirus live updates: Canada doesn't have plans to extricate the 167 nationals in the Wuhan area. Meanwhile, six countries have planned to dispatch chartered flights
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic
EndGameWW3‏ @EndGameWW3 23s23 seconds ago

"Experts from the US CDC, WHO and MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis at Imperial College London, all say that this coronavirus epidemic is expected to last anytime between six months to a year or even more"
 

Tarryn

Senior Member
German auto supplier Webasto says two employees infected with coronavirus

German auto supplier Webasto says two employees infected with coronavirus


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Picture shows the Webasto headquarters in Stockdorf near Munich, Germany, January 28, 2020.
REUTERS/NIKLAS WOSCHEK
(Reuters) - German car parts supplier Webasto [WEBA.UL] on Tuesday said a second employee had become infected with the coronavirus following the visit of another employee, from China, to the company's headquarters in Stockdorf, Bavaria.
"The auto supplier Webasto confirms that the person infected with the Coronavirus is from Starnberg and an employee at the company headquarters in Stockdorf," Webasto said.
Webasto on Monday had said a Chinese employee from Shanghai had tested positive for the virus upon his return to China following his visit to the company headquarters.
The company, which has 11 locations in China, including in Wuhan, the epicenter of the coronavirus, has banned travel to and from China for the next fortnight.


(Reporting by Jörn Poltz, Writing by Edward Taylor; Editing by Riham Alkousaa)
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Concur, forpetesake. Mongo is denigrating the concerns of forumites, while information is not complete. What he is doing is not "comedy," nor is it helpful. All here seek enlightenment- knowledge, not to be entertained by the lowest form of "snark-" ridicule.

All the Best, forpetesake...

OA
Meh … Mongo has a lot of real, feet on the ground experience as far as prepping and what to prep for. He lives the life every day and has documented it extensively to help others. He doesn't just talk about it. And he is part of a small, tight knit community doing the same thing so he is cognizant of how communities work in real time and what can pose realistic threats to his community and communities in general.

That said, TB2K is famous (infamous) for its snark, dark humor, and woo-control. People are either sure enough of their hypothesizing and theories that they can take it … or not. Those that aren't secure enough and who whap back like they are butthurt should expect their credibility to sink. Same for those postulating theories that use numbers that are insupportable.
You think this is rough? This is nothing compared to how people could be treated. If you're sure then don't worry about it. The question people need to ask themselves is how will they be viewed by others at TB2K after this thread goes dormant. And just to not be viewed as hypocritical, I am talking about all posters, not just a few extreme views on either end of the spectrum.
 

northern watch

TB Fanatic
Eunice Yoon‏Verified account @onlyyoontv 2m2 minutes ago

Chongqing asks companies not to resume work before Feb 10. Shanghai said Feb 9. Suzhou Feb 8. Those cities important to international business yet far from #WuhanVirus hot zone Wuhan, Hubei Province. Wuhan, Hubei have lots of factories that ship globally. More disruption likely.
 

NCGirl

Veteran Member
Note from a worker in Beijing area from company.

His wife got a call from ??? To tell her to come get tested based on her travel to Wuhan 2 weeks ago..

Got text saying everyone must report any travel to Wyhan. Reward of 1000rmb for turning in someone who is trying to hide their travel.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
Why would the Chinese make a bioweapon that targets only the Chinese?

There have been rumors researchers may have been toying around with the lid to that container (ethnic bio-weapons).






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