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.Another sign worth noting: We are now hundreds of pages and thousands of posts into this thread, and no one has posted a skeptical hair on fire emoji with accusations that we are all purveyors of doom porn. This is TB2K. This is where woo dies, usually quickly; but in this case, on this thread, the level of intelligent concern is palpable, and no one is cynically mocking.
Let us continue to prepare, encourage, and fulfill the purpose for which this forum was originally created...while we still can. Sadly, our government may go Wuhan on us at some point too. No worries. Faith, hope, and love remain.
Thank you to all who have posted here. As one of my old friends liked to say, "Be repaired!" Carry on, friends.
This obviously isn’t so much a concern for those that live in the country, prep, or cook meals at home. But consider an area like Manhattan, where most people don’t keep even a week’s worth of food in their kitchens, and who eat out or get take-out regularly... or even those around the country who eat fast food or get their Starbucks regularly. If it does start to spread here in the States, I have to imagine that this is the method that’s going to spread the virus the fastest.
It is game over fo junior emperor Li and his commie clones and stooges. Take a look at the headlines on zerohedge.com. It days it all. Who is coming down on li for the 2,000 infected health care workers and EVERYBODY knows the numbers are bogus and should be times 10, or 100 by now. The feckless Sheeple are sniffing the wind and starting to mooooove. PREP like China won't ship anything to us for MONTHS!!!
Can you provide a link for that?CORONAVIRUS: Top CDC official warns “we are likely to see community spread in the U.S.” as agency prepares to implement “change in our response strategy” | The Common Sense Show
CORONAVIRUS: Top CDC official warns “we are likely to see community spread in the U.S.” as agency prepares to implement “change in our response strategy”thecommonsenseshow.com
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Dave, did you see the story over at ANP (All News Pipeline)? It has a graph from John Hopkins University that CNBC ran which shows the confirmed coronavirus cases in the US are much higher than the 15 confirmed cases the MSM is reporting.
Headline seen on Rense.com. White House disappointed' In China's Lack of Transparency (Huge Lies) Regarding Virus Devastation in China. Real Numbers May Be 2 Million Infected, 100,000. Dead. Publius comments: Trump may has access to info we don't and just may be closer to the truth.
It is succeptable to the -conazole drug of antifungals, but those are prescription only and are potentially rough on the liver. Same with Amphotericin. Not a common medication but works well. Can have some toxicities. Both are IV.
I honestly think the fungus is an artifact. It is everywhere. Its not that uncommon to get even in the US in people who are immunocompromised.
Excellent post - thank you! We are out in rural America - we have five acres and are surrounded by cornfields. So, we're already isolated. But we've had a lot of conversations about how we want to prepare. We already have seeds. I just bought some medicinal herb seeds in case we need them. We have things we need to deal with the sick - as far as we can at home. Family is welcome to come - the food won't be fancy, but it will sustain life. And if they come, they get to work - cutting trees for firewood, helping in the garden, and canning and preparing food. I agree - this is going to change our lives. It might knock us back a hundred years. And, yes, prayer and planning, is going to get us through it.I have read and watched a untold number of statements and videos about the China Virus and it is frightening as to what is coming and can not be stopped....
It is unknown how many cases of the China Virus are in developed and third world countries....
The poop has hit the fan....
Will you survive????
China has lied about the China Virus from the beginning....
The CDC has finally started stating real facts as that the Virus can not be stopped, but only slowed until a vaccine is developed....
Will a vaccine be developed that will be effective???? Unknown....
The WHO has finally started stating real facts such as as many as 5 billion could be infected which generates at least 300 million deaths if not more....
How will the world governments handle 5 billion sick individuals and the resulting deaths???? Very poorly....
Who will take care of all of the sick???? There are insufficient medical personnel and hospital beds to take care of the sick....
Who will collect and incinerate the dead???? Unknown....
How many waves of the Virus will hit???? Unknown....
America and the Virus....
With a potential of 18 million dead in America and an untold number of sick, how many will be able to collect and incinerate the dead???? Unknown....
Will you volunteer????
How many will want to chance becoming infected by handling the dead???? Unknown....
It is not known how many in China that are dealing with the dead have become infected....
The military will be ordered to do so until they become infected....
Look at all of the medical personnel in China that have become infected....
There will be desertions in the military for they will go home to be with family and hopefully not infected....
How long will it take for the sick to become able to work again???? Unknown....
How many that return to work will be reinfected again and perish???? Unknown....
Will your job still be there???? Unknown, but probably not....
How devastating will the virus be to the economy???? Unknown, but the economy will not be the same....
The China Virus is loose in the world and from all appearances and statements by the WHO and CDC, the virus can not be stopped, but only slowed down and hopefully sufficiently slowed down for a vaccine to be developed before the world is completely devastated....
The world will be changed by the China Virus and not for the better....
The majority of the world is not listening and will pay the price....
There will be a point where if you wish to survive you have to self isolate....
When to self isolate???? Depends, but on what criteria will you decide????
When the first case is found near you????
Will that be to late????
So you have to work to pay the bills, but if you become infected, you will not be able to pay your bills and may not survive....
I see a point where all loan payments will be suspended until America recovers, but how long will recovery take????
Those on TB2K are several steps ahead of the rest of America and miles ahead of the world....
Are you really prepared????
Have you really determined when you are going to isolate and how????
Can you really isolate if you live in a city????
Will you take vacation and sick time to isolate, but what will you do when the vacation and sick time is used up????
For those that live out in the sticks, what will you do when family and friends show up????
Do you have a place where they can be isolated????
How ill you treat them if they are infected and become sick????
The Virus will migrate into rural areas and the medical facilities and staff will be overwhelmed quickly....
What is the limitation on your preps for the number of individuals that you can sustain for several months????
There is a list of unanswered questions that spans pages if not book length....
The impact of the Virus is beyond frightening....
Pray for your family and friends for America and the world....
Texican....
I just experienced the detox reaction. Itchy rash, all over, gitter done. I just went ahead and went for it.Good, but also very important to order their munity defense to build-up to lomatium. Which has a very strong detox reaction in about 1% of the people who take it.
That is the result of my voice to text. Was trying to say, a small amount of lonatiumI was with you up till this.
How would you convince a trucker to haul produce to a place where everybody is dying? A critical factor not noted on this forum that I have seen.Wonder if this means the farmers are dying.
and when it does it will not be what it wasIt is game over fo junior emperor Li and his commie clones and stooges. Take a look at the headlines on zerohedge.com. It days it all. Who is coming down on li for the 2,000 infected health care workers and EVERYBODY knows the numbers are bogus and should be times 10, or 100 by now. The feckless Sheeple are sniffing the wind and starting to mooooove. PREP like China won't ship anything to us for MONTHS!!!
If DD isn’t panicking, we need to check for a pulse.I don't know anyone in a panic. Doomer Doug skirts panic from time to time, but mostly he's just nervous. Haven't seen anyone in the real world who's in a panic. When you see food stores stripped bare, that's a panic.
If DD isn’t panicking, we need to check for a pulse.
You're a man's man. Their own literature says that people have been through it once are generally not willing to try it again.I
I just experienced the detox reaction. Itchy rash, all over, gitter done. I just went ahead and went for it.
I seem to recall little kids running around in crotchless diapers so they can crap wherever they want.Easy....
Western sanitation the way I see it. And I would include Japan in that as well. Although the virus is transmissible through fomites (surface contamination), droplets and airborne its also shed thru the fecal oral route. With the exception of Japan and perhaps some others they have squat toilets and poor hygiene. Many of them don’t use toilet paper but wipe with their hands. In addition soap and water washing after defecating is rare.
I’m thinking that although it’s transmissible through other vectors the virus load is less and your less likely to catch the virus thru the other routes. China has relatively poor hygiene especially among the older people and it’s hard to change life long habits. Therefore the older people have higher incidence of illness and add that to a weaker immune system that comes with age.
We are not seeing the spread of disease in other countries like China has experienced and the biggest difference between China and the rest of us is hygiene habits. I surmise the virus load in fecal is more pronounced than other routes.
GoldHow would you convince a trucker to haul produce to a place where everybody is dying? A critical factor not noted on this forum that I have seen.
So they still can't leave the houses, but at least the factories are open.....Russian MarketVerified account @russian_market 7m7 minutes ago
WUHAN FURTHER TIGHTENS QUARANTINE FOR RESIDENTS, CITY SAYS
I expect to see larger numbers of the health workers dying than normal. As they are tired, run down and have been worked to death already..... the flu is just topping on the cake....EndGameWW3 @EndGameWW3 58s58 seconds ago
More than 1,700 health workers infected by coronavirus in China
Yeah yeah yeah...a cruise with a stopover in Wuhan...I hear the bat soup is to die for.I think you are right....I recommend the local Chinese buffet and then take advantage of the misplaced paranoia and book that cruise while fares are artificially cheap.
Any specific suggestions?PREP like China won't ship anything to us for MONTHS!!!
Probably a good idea as the last time someone had an international meeting in London, things didn't go so well.....Russian MarketVerified account @russian_market 1m1 minute ago
Oil companies are canceling their receptions at International Petroleum Week (IP Week) in London at the end of this month as concerns over the spread of coronavirus rise
Headline seen on Rense.com. White House disappointed' In China's Lack of Transparency (Huge Lies) Regarding Virus Devastation in China. Real Numbers May Be 2 Million Infected, 100,000. Dead. Publius comments: Trump may has access to info we don't and just may be closer to the truth.