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And for those who were unaware..... water is actually wet.....lolLIVE FROM HONG KONG: Latest Information Coming Out of China Indicates Coronavirus Death Totals Are Much Larger than Reported
And for those who were unaware..... water is actually wet.....lolLIVE FROM HONG KONG: Latest Information Coming Out of China Indicates Coronavirus Death Totals Are Much Larger than Reported
I am still hoping for a better result here in the USA..... China... don't care much at all....Is there anyone left on this forum who may be still doubting that this pandemic is going full TEWOMFGTAWKTI or whatever?
I am willing to help them quarantine it if they are using UD dollars.....China announces it is on the money. They are sanitizing the money and quarantining it for 14 days. So money and mail are risky.
Anybody else feel me here or am I just overwrought? Thought so. \rant off
I am not quite there, at this point put me in the worse than TPTB are saying and will be economically painful, we will get to learn about the how disruptions affect complex interdependent systems.Is there anyone left on this forum who may be still doubting that this pandemic is going full TEWOMFGTAWKTI or whatever?
In Nebraska I always say unsweetened ice tea! I sure never could stand sweet tea!I'm a damn yankee, I just lived there for a couple decades.
YES it is.... live with it! That is the way we roll!Ahhh....this forum has bitched and moaned since the beginning that the sheeple are not paying attention. So when a reporter reinforces the dictum wash your hands etc for all the sheeple to read, the reaction is smartmouth?
Gee.
I had forgotten money as a vector for the illness....dumb I know....View: https://twitter.com/coronaviruscare/status/1228654447561072641
COVID-19 (Coronavirus) News@coronaviruscare
7:17 AM · Feb 15, 2020
BREAKING: China 'quarantines' bank notes to fight the #COVID19 outbreak.
Old bank notes being withdrawn, treated with UV radiation / high heat, sealed and sent to vaults for 14 days.
People’s Bank of China set to destroy all used banknotes from hospitals, wet markets & buses.
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(fair use applies)China quarantines BANK NOTES in bid to stop spread of coronavirus
Chinese banks are using ultraviolet light and then sealing and storing the cash for up to 14 days in an effort to stop the spread of the Covid-19 coronavirus.www.dailymail.co.uk
China disinfects BANK NOTES and quarantines them for 14 days as Beijing announces 143 new coronavirus deaths and 2,641 additional cases while death toll hits 1,527
By Isabella Nikolic For Mailonline
Published: 04:23 EST, 15 February 2020 | Updated: 07:39 EST, 15 February 2020
China has today started disinfecting and isolating used banknotes in an effort to stop the spread of the coronavirus (Covid-19) that has killed 1,527 people.
- Chinese banks use ultraviolet light then seal and store the cash for up to 14 days
- The banks have been urged to provide new banknotes to customers if possible
- Central bank made an emergency issuance of four billion yuan in new notes
Banks use ultraviolet light or high temperatures to disinfect yuan bills, then they seal and store the cash for seven to 14 days - depending on the severity of the outbreak in a particular region - before recirculating them.
The virus, which has infected 66,492 people in China and spread to more than two dozen other countries, has sparked a rush to disinfect public places and minimise contact between people.
Pharmacies across the country sold out of disinfectants and surgical masks in just days after a lockdown was announced in late January on Wuhan city, where the Covid-19 illness is believed to have emerged.
Office buildings have installed packets of tissue in elevators that tenants are encouraged to use when pressing buttons, while ride-hailing company Didi exhorts drivers to disinfect their cars daily.
Fan Yifei, deputy governor of China's central bank, today said that banks have been urged to provide new banknotes to customers whenever possible.
The virus, which has now killed 1,523 people and infected 66,492 people in China, has spread to more than two dozen other countries since the outbreak in January. Pictured are workers disinfecting an area in Beijing
The central bank made an 'emergency issuance' of four billion yuan in new notes to Hubei province, the epicentre of the outbreak, prior to the recent Lunar New Year holiday, Fan added.
The measures are intended to 'secure the public's safety and health when using cash', Fan said.
But it is unclear how wide an impact the central bank's disinfection work will have, with increasing numbers of Chinese people preferring mobile payments over cash in recent years.
In 2017, nearly three quarters of Chinese respondents told an Ipsos survey they could survive a whole month without using more than 100 yuan in cash.
According to the World Health Organization, Covid-19 can be spread through contaminated objects in addition to droplets and direct contact with infected patients.
[...snip... a more general recap of Covid-19 news followed]
Thanks Loup. I just received some amoxicillin from the link for Thomas Labs meds. Ordered Thursday and it arrived today, 2 days later. Shelf life is 2 years from manufacture and this has a 1/22 expiration date as they advertised. It will give us a chance to fight pneumonia, bronchitis, etc. if basic antibiotics are not available from the pharmacy. I hope that medical diagnosis will still be available even if they don't have supply to fill prescriptions.Thomas Labs, via one of their sites: Fish Antibiotics - Free Shipping on NON-Prescription Fish Antibiotics
I also have used AllDayChemist and ValleyVet (I have a LOT of fish, and chickens...).
I would also suggest getting both of the books that Dr. Alton and his wife have on their site: Disaster Preparedness Survival First Aid Kits | Natural Disaster Preparedness | Survival Preparedness Supplies
Book1: Altons Antibiotics and Infectious Disease: The Layman's Guide To Available Antibacterials in Austere Settings
Book2: The Survival Medicine Handbook Third Edition: The Essential Guide for When Help is NOT on the Way
I would also suggest getting a copy (or downloading):
Where there is no Doctor
Where there is no Dentist
Survival_and_Austere_Medicine_3rd_ed
(Trying to find links now, this might take a few...)
Loup
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Another report coming from the Epoch Times indicates the numbers of deaths in Wuhan from the coronavirus are way low. President Xi’s actions were too late and as a result the political and economic repercussions are devastating:
PREMIERE 8pm ET: China Coronavirus: Tough Realities & Possibility of Global Pandemic—Epidemic Reporter Laurie Garrett
“All the crematoriums of Hubei are backed up & cannot take bodies."
ATL Having reported in over 30 epidemic zones, @Laurie_Garrett breaks down the tough realities of #coronavirus, possibility of a global pandemic & how to stay safe. pic.twitter.com/juhMjtr37h
— Jan Jekielek (@JanJekielek) February 14, 2020
I'm a damn yankee, I just lived there for a couple decades.
Gee, and Doomer Doug thought he was the only one who went to Target and bought 12 huge plastic containers with lids. Glad to see I ain't the only one doing stuff like this.Yes, for sure. For the past 2 weeks I have emptied, cleaned out and reorganized every pantry, closet, cabinet, drawer and storage space in the house. I got rid of lots of stuff I don’t use or need and filled in what was missing. It’s a good feeling to know what you have and where it is.
Yes, but... all of their raw materials are from China!Still 24hrs behind in posts but thought y'all might be interested in knowing that Ireland is home to many pharmaceutical companies.
Ireland is a home for 24 of the world’s top biotech and pharma companies
Ireland is a home for 24 of the world’s top biotech and pharma companies
France announces 1st death in Europe of coronavirus patient
France announces 1st death in Europe of coronavirus patient
- By Associated Press
- Today
- Updated 6:31 am
CHINATOPIX VIA AP
Medical staff work in the negative-pressure isolation ward in Jinyintan Hospital, designated for critical COVID-19 patients, in Wuhan in central China’s Hubei province. China on Thursday reported 254 new deaths and a spike in virus cases of 15,152, after the hardest-hit province of Hubei applied a new classification system that broadens the scope of diagnoses for the outbreak, which has spread to more than 20 countries.
ASSOCIATED PRESS
A worker sprays disinfectant outside the Beijing Railway Station in Beijing. People returning to Beijing will now have to isolate themselves either at home or in a concentrated area for medical observation, said a notice from the Chinese capital’s prevention and control work group published by state media late Friday.
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Travelers wear face masks and goggles as they use their smartphones outside the Beijing Railway Station in Beijing. People returning to Beijing will now have to isolate themselves either at home or in a concentrated area for medical observation, said a notice from the Chinese capital’s prevention and control work group published by state media late Friday.
PARIS >> France’s health minister today announced the first coronavirus death in Europe, an 80-year-old Chinese tourist who other French authorities say was initially turned away from two French hospitals when he first fell ill.
Minister Agnes Buzyn said she was informed Friday night of the death of the patient, who had been in intensive care at Bichat Hospital in Paris after testing positive in late January.
His daughter also tested positive for the virus that has spread across central China and was hospitalized. However, the health minister said she was doing well and should be leaving Bichat shortly. The hospital is among a handful in France with special isolation rooms.
As of Saturday, four of the 11 confirmed virus cases in France have been “cured” and left the hospital, the latest a French physician on Friday, she said. Six others still remain hospitalized.
The deceased patient, a Chinese tourist from the province of Hubei, had a serious lung infection caused by the COVID-19 virus.
There were contradictory reports about the timing of the man’s illness. Buzyn said he arrived in France on Jan. 16 and was hospitalized on Jan. 25 under strict isolation measures but his condition deteriorated rapidly.
Other French medical officials said earlier that the man had arrived in France on Jan. 23 and quickly fell ill.
Dr. Yazdan Yazdanpanah, head of Bichat’s infectious diseases unit, said the man had visited two French hospitals but because he “didn’t fulfill the definition” of someone at risk of having the virus, the hospitals decided it was unnecessary to test him. The man did not live in Wuhan, the central Chinese city hardest-hit by the virus, but was from Hubei province that includes Wuhan.
He later tested positive and was admitted to Bichat on Jan. 29, Yazdanpanah said.
Nine European countries collectively have 46 cases of the virus that first emerged in central China in December, with Germany having the most at 16.
The virus has infected more than 67,000 people globally and has killed at least 1,526 patients, the vast majority in China. The World Health Organization has called the virus a threat to global health.
Chinese authorities have placed some 60 million people under a strict lockdown, built emergency hospitals and instituted controls across the country to fight the spread of the virus. Restaurants, cinemas and other businesses have been closed nationwide and sports and cultural events have been canceled to prevent crowds from gathering.
In Munich on Saturday, chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told a gathering of the world’s top defense officials and diplomats that his country was “determined to fight and win this battle” against the virus, and suggested that its efforts were paying off.
“Dawn is breaking and we are seeing light coming through,” Wang said through a translator.
He said the epidemic has presented a “severe challenge” to China’s economy growth but said it was well positioned to rebound.
“The fundamentals sustaining strong economic growth have not changed, and will not change,” he said. “After the storm comes the rainbow, and we are confident that China will emerge stronger from the epidemic.”
Italian Foreign Minister Luigi Di Maio said all Italians who sought repatriation from Wuhan due to the coronavirus have returned to Italy. The last was 17-year-old student who arrived on a military flight early Saturday after being twice refused passage due to a fever. The teen has tested negative for coronavirus, and will now spend two weeks in quarantine at a military facility near Rome.
Not to worry. Southerners may call everyone from the North, yankees, and not necessarily in a flattering way, but up here in Northern New England, to be called an old yankee is a compliment. They represent the best of our traditional Puritan work ethic, frugality and ingenuity. Being a yankee is a good thing. Wear it with pride.I'm a damn yankee, I just lived there for a couple decades.
Thing is, as I see it...none of the professionals really know WTH is going on yet. Increasingly, NOBODY that is a responsible authority/researcher believes China, and until WHO or CDC or somebody with some credibility is allowed to follow and document a few hundred of these cases from infection to resolution, nobody is really going to have a clue WTH is going on.
China announces it is on the money. They are sanitizing the money and quarantining it for 14 days. So money and mail are risky.
My old favorite 357 mag load, that and federals version. You sir have good taste.
Didn't make notes-- Wouldn't have a binder big enough for this beast. Just curious to see how far back I had made the recommendation. Farther back than I realized and someone had made it yet further back than I had.Glad to see you made notes..... not sure how this would have ended if you didn't.... just saying.....lol
I had forgotten money as a vector for the illness....dumb I know....
To my mind, shortages of pharmaceuticals in hospitals in this country because they're made in China may end up being one of the largest impacts of the virus here, and possibly higher causes of death in this country than from the virus directly.So how many dead doctors is that process going to take? They don't grow on trees. I foresee a doctor shortage just as bad as an empty shelf in the store shortage. My main gripe with this is if it was engineered, it would be quicker and safer for the lab to let somebody know so we don't have to play at hunting answers in a long process. That they haven't tells me that they care not a whit for life and how precious it is. That makes them worse than monsters in my eyes.
There is a video on the Earth Changes thread that says that Soros and Gates wargamed this thing out and even had the date of 2020 when the fun would start. They made a game out of it. To reduce the population. Seriously. These people are mad. Completely power mad insane.
I think o2 concentrators need regular calibration. Not sure the details but a service tech would check it every month. Took 2 minutes from start to finish.
I think all of us (most of us especially interested in Biblical prophecy and one world currency/government) have wondered how, why, and when actual currency would become obsolete. I certainly believe that a pandemic which has the ability to remain on surfaces for up to 9 days would quickly turn paper and coin money into a relic of the past.
watch those 357 in 125 gr loads. High usage can crack the forcing cone
So, Kung fu wuflu is saving us from global warming! Carry on!!!The Epoch Times - China Insider @EpochTimesChina 15h15 hours ago
#China’s industrial power demand in 2020 may decline by as much as 73 billion kilowatt hours (kWh), according to@IHSMarkit, as the#CoronavirusOutbreak has curtailed factory output and prevented some workers from returning to their jobs.
During the 1918 flu, the contagion was backtracked along a mail carrier's route. - John Barry - "The Great Influenza".I got a box from All Day Chemist today. It is from India, but aha! goes through Singapore. I gloved, took out box, put it on trunk of husband's car, used the handle of a plastic spoon to cut the tape, dumped the contents out, bagged gloves, box and spoon for the trash.
So. Mail lady contaminated mailbox handle (and all the mail she touched after that box, if we're going to play hard), which I touched barehanded. Inside of mailbox and any mail going into it is contaminated. Luckily we don't get much real mail.
I'm so glad we have this time to practice and find holes in our thinking, practices, defenses.
Really...
Then
NUKE IT FROM SPACE, or drive alongside with a Deuce.5 and a W-88.
Gang, it took a while, but Africa is now in play, disease wise. You might of missed it, with only 338 pages to wander through, but back on page 330, post 13,178 I told you all that the first CONFIRMED case in Africa was in Egypt, Cairo if I am not mistaken, so the report of the CONFIRMED CASE IN SOUTH AFRICA, IE SWAZILAND, IS REALLY THE 2ND CASE OF CONFIRMED VIRUS IN AFRICA.
KABOOM. KABOOM, KABOOM.
We all said that it was strange to not have any confirmed cases in Africa, South America etc, and the general consensus was to just wait, go count all our piles of ammo, and chill out till Africa started exploding in virus cases. And guess what, we now have TWO separate, confirmed virus cases, with each one of them in a separate part of Africa, like Egypt in the far north, and South Africa/Swaziland in the south of Africa.
In the 72 hours or so around Valentine's Day we have seen MULTIPLE cases of CONFIRMED, no bs like the Deleware report, in Africa, in Hawaii, in London etc. Face it, the powers that be know it is global pandemic time and are doing the how much info do I release to warn people, but without having them urinate in their pants.
I nailed it for this weekend and despite some smirking here, uber doomer, Doomer Doug has doomed on spot on.
Yep that is correct my fellow doomers. This Valentine's Day saw CONFIRMATION of infected people in London, Africa, Hawaii and who knows where else we DON'T KNOW ABOUT YET. It is game over. Global Pandemic in motion. PREPARE. PREPARE. PREPARE.
We wouldn't know if that is happening yet. Until yesterday's announcement, they were only testing those who had a Chinese connection. If it is out running wild, it hasn't been tested yet. Now they will test any case that presents with the known symptoms.This is the kind of thing I'm watching for. Right now, I'm not worried about outside of China because most cases (especially here in the US) are those returning from China and are in quarantine. I've been watching for activation within the general population who hasn't been to China or connected to family from China.
Is there some reason why a couple of passes over paper money with a hot steam iron would not solve the infection problem?I am willing to help them quarantine it if they are using UD dollars.....
Is it possible the Chinese would quarantine 100 banknotes and then print 1000? People would expect to see a lot more new notes in circulation. And there are so many out of work due to the quarantines.View: https://twitter.com/coronaviruscare/status/1228654447561072641
COVID-19 (Coronavirus) News@coronaviruscare
7:17 AM · Feb 15, 2020
BREAKING: China 'quarantines' bank notes to fight the #COVID19 outbreak.
Old bank notes being withdrawn, treated with UV radiation / high heat, sealed and sent to vaults for 14 days.
People’s Bank of China set to destroy all used banknotes from hospitals, wet markets & buses.
~~~~~~~~
(fair use applies)China quarantines BANK NOTES in bid to stop spread of coronavirus
Chinese banks are using ultraviolet light and then sealing and storing the cash for up to 14 days in an effort to stop the spread of the Covid-19 coronavirus.www.dailymail.co.uk
China disinfects BANK NOTES and quarantines them for 14 days as Beijing announces 143 new coronavirus deaths and 2,641 additional cases while death toll hits 1,527
[...snip... a more general recap of Covid-19 news followed]
You’re right most likely but I ***still*** have yet to hear a single, solitary person talk about this or even act like “it’s a thing”!!Gang, it took a while, but Africa is now in play, disease wise. You might of missed it, with only 338 pages to wander through, but back on page 330, post 13,178 I told you all that the first CONFIRMED case in Africa was in Egypt, Cairo if I am not mistaken, so the report of the CONFIRMED CASE IN SOUTH AFRICA, IE SWAZILAND, IS REALLY THE 2ND CASE OF CONFIRMED VIRUS IN AFRICA.
KABOOM. KABOOM, KABOOM.
We all said that it was strange to not have any confirmed cases in Africa, South America etc, and the general consensus was to just wait, go count all our piles of ammo, and chill out till Africa started exploding in virus cases. And guess what, we now have TWO separate, confirmed virus cases, with each one of them in a separate part of Africa, like Egypt in the far north, and South Africa/Swaziland in the south of Africa.
In the 72 hours or so around Valentine's Day we have seen MULTIPLE cases of CONFIRMED, no bs like the Deleware report, in Africa, in Hawaii, in London etc. Face it, the powers that be know it is global pandemic time and are doing the how much info do I release to warn people, but without having them urinate in their pants.
I nailed it for this weekend and despite some smirking here, uber doomer, Doomer Doug has doomed on spot on.
Yep that is correct my fellow doomers. This Valentine's Day saw CONFIRMATION of infected people in London, Africa, Hawaii and who knows where else we DON'T KNOW ABOUT YET. It is game over. Global Pandemic in motion. PREPARE. PREPARE. PREPARE.
Mailman here today was wearing mask and gloves.