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TxGal said:
DUE TO INCREASED DEMAND, WE ARE EXPERIENCING SHIPPING AND PRODUCTION DELAYS
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No effect on the herd yet. This affects the sheepdogs guarding the herd. A small fraction of the total. But it will spread from here to the herd.

I keep harping on prepping to my family. They're probably talking behind my back, agreeing that their crazy brother is rambling again. At least my wife is on the team, but she always was.
 
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naturallysweet said:
It's pretty simple. They got sick from, we're hospitalized from, and died from 'the fku'.

Go get your flu shot !! (Sarcasm)
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The best part of this is that 1000's of hospitals, all working under direction of Central Control have not had a single clue escaping indicating this is going on,.
 
Shooter

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watching local news, and had a thought. they are showiing people being moved from a plane to a ambulance. everyone outside is in a hazmat suit,

could they put the sick people in a hazmat suit. someway reverse the mask filters. and have them walk and be moved with the suit on? everyone else outside should be safe. and not have to spray down the ambulance that moved them?

im not sure if it would work. just a thought I had while watching them
 
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Seeker22 said:
I hadn't thought of it that way, but it does make sense. Money (filthy lucre) over all. Wonder where they got that idea from? Any Chinese product will not cross my threshold until this thing is good and gone. I know I am in the minority, but if I can't grow it or make it, I don't need it. I was raised on Depression stories so now is my time to use that wisdom to hopefully survive. One of my ways is not to invite the plague in. It will have to seek me out and I am rather hard to find these days.

If you would like to debunk things for yourself, I used Yandex (Russian search) because Bing, and Google, and Yahoo are not cutting it. Laughably bad.

If you are running Firefox, Yandex image search is an addon. Once you have it loaded, it will show up in the list of things on a right click. If not, bring up Yandex

Yandex.Images: search for images on the internet, search by image

Right click the image and click Copy Image Location.

Paste that into the Yandex image search bar. Your matching image should be the big one at the top. If you don't get a match, scroll through some of the other images, you may get close.

If your Cyrillic sucks as bad as mine, you will need a translator.

Russian-English online translator and dictionary – Yandex.Translate

Copy and paste Cyrillic (Russian) language text into the Russian box and it will pop up as English in the English box. There ya go. Hope this helps.

EDITED TO ADD: I opened a Word file (I use Open Office Writer) and translated articles off the Yandex Web portion of the site (not Images) and copy-pasted those paragraphs into the Word page until I had an English article. Some of the Russian sites don't translate into English, so have to do it the hard way.
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Yes, filthy lucre. I still question the authenticity of this particular photo. But wherever the victims' cellphones and other possessions are, I'm sure they'll end up for sale on Amazon or EBay. Goes right along with the plausible theory that experimental virus-carrying animals from the lab were sold for filthy lucre at the wet market instead of proper disposal.
 
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Hfcomms said:
If it wasn't an accidental or intentional release but if you believe it was an altered virus [not natural] what other option for release is there?
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I am not a scientist or someone who can tell if it was altered. I need to rely on people who know, but if it was altered, it was a binary answer. Either intentional or not.....
 
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cyberiot said:
So, basically, the U.S. "infected" count nearly doubled overnight--from 15 to 29. The sick Americans weren't included in our count as long as they remained in Japan or on the Diamond Princess.

ETA: Wonder how long it will take to include them in the official tally?
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I do hope they are overly cautious in quarantining them here. Because although I guess they are now technically in the U.S. "infected" count, they're not in the "contracted in the U.S." count, which I've lost track of; just a handful, I think (families of those who contracted it elsewhere?) and we don't want that number increasing.
 
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bassaholic said:
A friend I do business with in China said people are going back to work now and everything is fine. I'll take his word over any website saying otherwise.
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In his small town or part of the country his observation may be correct. With the information lock down in China he probably has no idea what is going on in Wuhon and other parts of the country that are being decimated as his only source of news is approved government broadcasts and the Chinese government has cracked down hard on people going around the censors and posting pictures and video. So he could be entirely sincere in his observation. One data point from one part of China is not indicative of the whole. The actions of the government of China that we know about with the quarantines and people resisting being 'handled' would testify to a worst case or close to worst case scenario.
 
Tom McDowell

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cyberiot said:
With all due respect, this has already been hashed out. OA is a beloved and respected member of this community. He owns his own words, he posts what he posts, and he says what he says any way he wants to say it. That is his right. And it is your right to scroll past posts that annoy you. Can we please get off OA's lawn and move on?
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I've never put anyone on ignore. I think everyone who is a member here has value. I leave it to the mods to let them figure out who's going on their version of ignore.

Saying that from a perspective of posting information and little commentary, I try to review all the posts before posting. On a thread of this length, it's easy to skim over commentary, however I do try to read and before hitting submit, I check the there are new posts feature. ==>> ( Messages have been posted since you loaded this page. View them? ) I've hit it a few times while composing this post.

Personally I find value in a long thread versus several thousand separate posts on main, which would then eventually end up regulated to a separate room. Trying to reduce noise like cooking recipes, prayer requests, pet stories, cartridge loads and self defense recommendations have their place. Keeping duplicates to a minimum, staying on topic, actually reading and viewing before commentary is good etiquette.

That's all I've got. Going back to research.

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20Gauge

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Hfcomms said:
In his small town or part of the country his observation may be correct. With the information lock down in China he probably has no idea what is going on in Wuhon and other parts of the country that are being decimated as his only source of news is approved government broadcasts and the Chinese government has cracked down hard on people going around the censors and posting pictures and video. So he could be entirely sincere in his observation. One data point from one part of China is not indicative of the whole. The actions of the government of China that we know about with the quarantines and people resisting being 'handled' would testify to a worst case or close to worst case scenario.
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The proper data point is not so much are they letting people back into the factories, but rather are ships now leaving port to the USA and other places. If the ships are not moving, then people in factories are not important....
 
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cyberiot said:
With all due respect, this has already been hashed out. OA is a beloved and respected member of this community. He owns his own words, he posts what he posts, and he says what he says any way he wants to say it. That is his right. And it is your right to scroll past posts that annoy you. Can we please get off OA's lawn and move on?
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Thank-yuh kindly, cyberiot.

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bw said:
No effect on the herd yet. This affects the sheepdogs guarding the herd. A small fraction of the total. But it will spread from here to the herd.

I keep harping on prepping to my family. They're probably talking behind my back, agreeing that their crazy brother is rambling again. At least my wife is on the team, but she always was.
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I wish mine was. She tolerates me, but she doesn’t know I just bought 60 pounds of rice:)
 
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cyberiot said:
With all due respect, this has already been hashed out. OA is a beloved and respected member of this community. He owns his own words, he posts what he posts, and he says what he says any way he wants to say it. That is his right. And it is your right to scroll past posts that annoy you. Can we please get off OA's lawn and move on?
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What we really need is for someone to start posting using Snoop-Dogg's "Fo shizzle" ebonics…………...
 
Tom McDowell

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Coronavirus Traps Balkan Citizens on Cruise Ship in Japan

Anja Vladisavljevic, Danijel Kovacevic and Sinisa Jakov Marusic
Banja Luka, Skopje, Zagreb
BIRN
February 17, 2020
Balkan citizens stranded on the cruise ship containing the largest cluster of coronavirus cases outside China will not be evacuated before the isolation period ends this week.
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A car leaves the Daikoku Pier Cruise Terminal where the Diamond Princess cruise ship is docked in Yokohama, Japan, 16 February 2020. EPA-EFE/FRANCK ROBICHON.

While the US, Canada and some other countries have started evacuating their citizens from the Diamond Princess cruise ship, docked at Yokohama in Japan, and quarantined amid the coronavirus COVID-19 epidemic, citizens from the Balkan region will remain stuck on board until the isolation period ends this week.

Some 17 Romanian citizens, 14 Serbian citizens, six Croatians, two Macedonians, one Bosnian and one citizen from Montenegro are on the ship that contains the largest cluster of COVID-19 cases outside China.

The ship has been held in quarantine since February 3 and the quarantine is not due to end until Wednesday, February 19.
Of the three citizens of North Macedonia on the ship, two are in good health and remain on board, North Macedonia’s Foreign Ministry said last Thursday, confirming that one had tested positive for the virus and was taken to a Japanese hospital. His condition is being checked by North Macedonia’s embassy in Tokyo.

Regarding evacuation plans, North Macedonia stated only that it is in daily contact with the two remaining citizens on board and that it will inform the public about any possible evacuation plan.

As reported on Thursday, one Romanian citizen tested positive for coronavirus and was also transferred to a Japanese hospital. The Romanian Foreign Ministry said its embassy in Japan was in contact with the other 15 Romanians crew members and two passengers.

Ivica Dacic, Serbia’s Foreign Minister, said on Friday that four Serbian nationals were in isolation because of contact with an infected person, but their test results were not known yet. Serbia has not announced plans to evacuate its citizens.

The Bosnian Foreign Ministry said that the one Bosnian citizen on board ship was a member of the crew and was not infected with the virus. “Despite the unenviable situation, he is in good psycho-physical condition … We are in daily contact and he is lacking for nothing,” the Bosnian ambassador to Japan, Sinisa Berjan, said on Thursday. According to him, the crew are most exposed to the virus because they are not quarantined like the passengers and must continue to perform their work duties.

“Fortunately, our citizen does not work in jobs that are directly related to servicing the needs of passengers and is, therefore, less exposed to contacts with other people,” Berjan said.
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US citizens leaving the ‘Diamond Princess’ cruise ship, February 17, 2020. EPA-EFE/FRANCK ROBICHON.

According to the Croatian Foreign Ministry, the five Croatian passengers and one cruise crew member on board are all well.
“Their planned stay is to 19 February at the earliest, depending on the dynamics of testing and other health procedures,” the ministry told BIRN, adding that the embassy in Japan was in constant contact with the authorities and that “so far, it is not planned for Croatian citizens to leave isolation earlier”.

The Montenegrin Foreign Ministry on February 5 said that the one Montenegrin citizen on the ship was not known to be among the infected.

Some 3,700 people were on board the ship, and according to the latest report by Japanese Health, Labour and Welfare Ministry, the number of people infected has reached 355.

On Monday, the more than 300 US citizens were removed from the ship. Canada will also evacuate its 250 citizens.
China is under pressure to contain the spread of the virus that has reportedly killed 1,500 people so far. On Saturday, the first death was confirmed in Europe. Media reports said a Chinese tourist died in France after contracting the coronavirus.

COVID Confirmed In Romanian Passenger on Diamond Princess

one Romanian citizen tested positive for coronavirus and was also transferred to a Japanese hospital. The Romanian Foreign Ministry said its embassy in Japan was in contact with the other 15 Romanians crew members and two passengers. https://balkaninsight.com/2020/02/17/coronavirus-traps-balkan-c...
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mwrobel said:
No disrespect for your sniff test, but if there was thousands very sick in ICU's in U.S. hospitals from the coronavirus, I sort of doubt they would be able to hide that. SOME nurse or doctor would talk. Relatives of the sick people would talk and so on. This isn't China where they can just censor everything.
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What if they're reportin' th' virus as flu?

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20Gauge said:
The proper data point is not so much are they letting people back into the factories, but rather are ships now leaving port to the USA and other places. If the ships are not moving, then people in factories are not important....
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The ships probably won’t be moving much until the factories have been manned for a while. Was all the stuff completed before shutdown already sent, or can ships be loaded from warehouses and box yards?
 
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bassaholic said:
A friend I do business with in China said people are going back to work now and everything is fine. I'll take his word over any website saying otherwise.
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This may be true in some areas. However my husband is in direct contact with their factories all over China, dozens of them, and as of today.. they have 4 factories up and going and dozens and dozens of containers waiting to go out. It is NOT business as usual right now. My husband who normally thinks most things I might worry about are woowoooo Is not at all thinking things are "fine". In fact quite the opposite.

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Also an almost funny thing. His main guy over there, who is in Tianjin, keeps asking hubby what is happening as they are getting little to no info in China
 
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Profit of Doom said:
The ships probably won’t be moving much until the factories have been manned for a while. Was all the stuff completed before shutdown already sent, or can ships be loaded from warehouses and box yards?
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From my experience, they load everything they have done on the ships before the holiday. They want every dollar possible before they come back..... not so sure these days.
 
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NCGirl said:
This may be true in some areas. However my husband is in direct contact with their factories all over China, dozens of them, and as of today.. they have 4 factories up and going and dozens and dozens of containers waiting to go out. It is NOT business as usual right now. My husband who normally thinks most things I might worry about are woowoooo Is not at all thinking things are "fine". In fact quite the opposite.
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So for the moment, they are still not shipping if they have containers waiting to ship. I wouldn't expect they normally have dozens waiting to ship....
 
bassaholic

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bw said:
Is there any chance he's putting on a good face because the Chinese government is watching everything he says on his smart phone? Just asking.
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I doubt he's concerned but if he felt he was being watched/monitored then maybe...if there's really a way China gov can monitor all the billions of folks on phones.

He's a business man in Shanghai to answer another question asked.
 
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rondaben said:
terrorists. Russia. The US. Israel. could be anyone with access to the technology. plenty of motive for all the above.

All Woo if course.
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Deep cover Satanic/Illuminati type group would have the means, brains and access to do it expecting the blame to fall on China.

We'll never know.
 
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I doubt he's concerned but if he felt he was being watched/monitored then maybe...if there's really a way China gov can monitor all the billions of folks on phones.

He's a business man in Shanghai to answer another question asked.
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There is a way
 
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