Misc/Chat ALERT: the USDA wants you to REGISTER YOUR GARDEN.

marsh

marsh

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Forwarded by ClifH from his Telegram Account - Source attrib. Ice Age Farmer

ALERT: the USDA wants you to REGISTER YOUR GARDEN.

ALERT - (USDA Opens People’s Garden Initiative to Gardens Nationwide | NRCS) the USDA wants you to REGISTER YOUR GARDEN. Their "people's garden" program is NOT your grandma's victory garden brochure. It is—in their own words—creating a registry and map of small-scale food production.

DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES REGISTER YOUR GARDEN. No matter what benefits or enticements are offered.
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"The USDA expanding its People’s Garden Initiative to include eligible gardens nationwide!

"School gardens, community gardens, urban farms, and small-scale agriculture projects in rural, suburban and urban areas can be recognized as a “People’s Garden” if they register on the USDA website and meet criteria including benefiting the community, working collaboratively, incorporating conservation practices and educating the public. Affiliate People’s Garden locations will be indicated on a map on the USDA website, featured in USDA communications, and provided with a People’s Garden sign.
 
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Old Reliable

Veteran Member
Do these people thank we are all Dum asses.


Notice too Liberal​

If you are a LIBERAL or vote Democracy you have Crossed the Rubicon and not welcome.
 
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summerthyme

Administrator
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Not to interrupt the woo (and CERTAINLY not implying the government is above taking your own private garden if they see a need!), but this doesn't seem to apply to individuals who grow for themselves or for sale.

School gardens, community gardens, urban farms, and small-scale agriculture projects in rural, suburban and urban areas can be recognized as a “People’s Garden” if they register on the USDA website and meet criteria including benefiting the community, working collaboratively, incorporating conservation practices and educating the public. Affiliate People’s Garden locations will be indicated on a map on the USDA website, featured in USDA communications, and provided with a People’s Garden sign.
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Granted, if the incentives were "good" enough, I could see a bunch of idiots signing up anyway...

By the way, what ever happened to NAIS?

Summerthyme
 
All-in

All-in

Contributing Member
I'm on the USDA mailing list and got the notice about the program. They are not trying to mandate registering private gardens. Many organizations around me are setting up these community gardens ... tribes, nursing homes, schools, etc. They teach kids how plants are grown (where their food comes from), gives older people stuck in a nursing home an outdoor activity, and typically they use the produce for the community that sets them up and does the work or shares the produce locally. USDA will provide some funding and assistance to set them up and keep them going. I haven't read through it all, but doesn't seem nefarious at this point. That's not to say it couldn't morph in the future. From the USDA website:

To be eligible, gardens:

  • Benefit the community by providing food, green space, wildlife habitat, education space.
  • Are a collaborative effort. This can include groups working together with USDA agencies, food banks, after school programs, Girl Scouts, Master Gardeners, conservation districts, etc.
  • Incorporate conservation management practices, such as using native plant species, rain barrels, integrated pest management, xeriscaping.
  • Educate the public about sustainable gardening practices and the importance of local, diverse, and resilient food systems providing healthy food for the community.
USDA Opens People’s Garden Initiative to Gardens Nationwide
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Old Reliable said:
Do these people thank we are all Dum asses.
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As a matter of fact yes they do, and they also believe themselves to be superior to rural folk, and believe that our education stopped at the third grade. They're city dwellers and most wouldn't survive a week out in the countryside before they'd go mad with boredom and with how quite it can be out here. They think because they spent a week in a high end resort out on Long Island or Martha's Vineyard that they could survive anything. Wrong!
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
When Iowa State University's Ag department sent out a survey, along with a free soil sample kit to be sent back in, we weren't offended. The only thing they asked on their survey was

1. Do you think your garden soil could perform better?
2. Do you amend your soil
a. commercial fertilizers
b. compost
3 Which of these types of veggies do you grow?

And the list consisted of pretty much the ususal suspects: tomatoes, peppers, sweet corn, squash, lettuce, cucumbers, and a few other items. Basically a salad and salsa garden with some sweet corn thrown in for good measure. When I showed it to my graduate professor at the time she said that it looked like a PhD's dissertation survey. It was also limited to the five county area.

This type of survey I take no offense at, in 2008 to 2010 the ISU Ag department was encouraging people to get their soil tested and to grow vegetable gardens. They even had a webpage, for a short while, on how to optimize your gardens soil and how to get the biggest yields from your tomatoes, etc.

But if you come at me telling me I have to register my garden, compost pile, etc., OH HELL NO!!!
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
hammerhead said:
Um, my garden is my garden, not "the people's garden." My money, my sweat equity while others are touring around in lycra on their $5k bikes, my dirt. My produce.
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I was gonna say something about the bikes, and then I saw that you're in Colorado. We were amazed at the number of bicycles on the road when we went to Fort Collins and Boulder.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
The story is making the rounds on facebook the originating article is about "community" gardens, not personal gardens. Apparently someone took produce from a "community" garden and got sick, sued, and won. So now the USDA/FDA wants to regulate "community" gardens. If the story comes up in my feed again I'll try to remember to post it here.
 
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raven

TB Fanatic
oh crap!
I planted 3 nandinas, 3 crape myrtles, 2 sky pencil hollies, 5 nellie stevens hollies, and POS shrubbery that was on sale for a dollar at WalMart.
boy, am I ever in trouble.
 
okie-carbine

okie-carbine

Veteran Member
Be sure to turn in your neighbors if you see them out gardening. We will need to check up with them to make sure they are registered. Don't want any illegal gardening going on. All produce must be procured by the authorities and distributed accordingly.
 
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Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My People’s Garden: It is a beautiful patch of hemlock, surrounded by some absolutely stunning kudzu…..


Yes, I am willing to share with my blue neighbors…
 
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Publius

TB Fanatic
So these maps are available to the general public so anyone can find your place and help themselves to your hard work?
 
Lilbitsnana

Lilbitsnana

On TB every waking moment
I was coming back from the hospital the other day and saw a small block building that is being built on a small plot of land that they cut out of the bottom of the mountain that I live on.

It is not finished yet, but it is only going to be about 20-25 x 20-25. It had a big sign up next to it, and while I couldn't read most of it as I was driving past it, I could make out that it is for the USDA. Really weird place to put a building.

I hope they realize they could end up with a car crashing thru the top of the building one day. There are so many wrecks on the really sharp curve a few hundred feet above them, one of these days there might not be enough trees left to stop the vehicles from falling all the way down.
 
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