CORP/BIZ Amazon Wants To Turn Your Hand Into a Credit Card...

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The single most important thing about the Mark is that to take it, ONE MUST RENOUNCE GOD. There will be no question that one is doing so when they take the Mark. That’s why whenever some company or other brings out an implanted ID thing and people start running around :hof: , I have to laugh. Total reactionaries, who don’t know their Scripture.

You're absolutely right, Dennis. Those who take the Mark will know who they are choosing, renouncing God in the process. Once the mark is taken, it will seal the fact that they now belong to Satan. No one is going to be deceived into taking it. The Mark is Satan's seal of ownership. Just like those of us who are Christians are also given a mark of ownership by the Holy Spirit.

Nothing being promoted today is the actual Mark I don't care if it's an implanted chip of some kind, or a tattoo. What all this is is just laying the groundwork for the final outcome. I still don't want to be in on the process.
 

CaryC

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Anymore info on this. Which Mark on the Debit Cards,

No Sorry. I'll look some more but doubt that I find anything. You have to realize that this was way back, when they were going to the Euro. Javier Solana was President of the EU, and his seat number was 666. Lot's of bloviating about him being the AC. And then Europe going to a common currency, and then since the cards would be used across borders, with Banks in different countries, there had to be a special something on the card to avoid transaction fees etc. so the card would be usable in all participating countries.

It was a great time for hair on fire, selling all your possessions, and moving to the mountain top, wearing white robes, sandals, and long hair. Ya know like peace dude.

Although I suspect it was the Euro seal, or the EU trademark of a woman riding a beast.
 

JMG91

Veteran Member
You're absolutely right, Dennis. Those who take the Mark will know who they are choosing, renouncing God in the process. Once the mark is taken, it will seal the fact that they now belong to Satan. No one is going to be deceived into taking it. The Mark is Satan's seal of ownership. Just like those of us who are Christians are also given a mark of ownership by the Holy Spirit.

Nothing being promoted today is the actual Mark I don't care if it's an implanted chip of some kind, or a tattoo. What all this is is just laying the groundwork for the final outcome. I still don't want to be in on the process.
^^^This. This kind of thing is simply conditioning people to be accustomed to the idea of taking such a mark.
 

JMG91

Veteran Member
Well... The AntiChrist does not have TOTAL global domination and the tribes you speak of will, more than likely, not be affected.
I was thinking the same thing. In fact, I believe you posted something about that in one of the end times threads; about the fact that there will be those who even fight back against the AC.
 

CaryC

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^^^This. This kind of thing is simply conditioning people to be accustomed to the idea of taking such a mark.

Can you live without a cell phone? Same principal.

Even though what Dennis said is true.
 

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
No Sorry. I'll look some more but doubt that I find anything. You have to realize that this was way back, when they were going to the Euro. Javier Solana was President of the EU, and his seat number was 666. Lot's of bloviating about him being the AC. And then Europe going to a common currency, and then since the cards would be used across borders, with Banks in different countries, there had to be a special something on the card to avoid transaction fees etc. so the card would be usable in all participating countries.

It was a great time for hair on fire, selling all your possessions, and moving to the mountain top, wearing white robes, sandals, and long hair. Ya know like peace dude.

Although I suspect it was the Euro seal, or the EU trademark of a woman riding a beast.

Oh I remember those days well, I held on to my Irish Punts as long as possible,
Having to trade in our currency for EU funny money was not a good move.

I was already on the mountain top and had long hair , no white robes though, no sandals either, army boots are more my thing :lol:
 

CaryC

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I was thinking the same thing. In fact, I believe you posted something about that in one of the end times threads; about the fact that there will be those who even fight back against the AC.

Want to name any fav's on that? (Hint: China. King of the East? Interesting, or maybe Egypt, King of the South?)
 

raven

TB Fanatic
ok. so I have a Amazon card - that would be my right hand. the Home Depot card is my left hand.
my visa . . . is what my right foot? and the mastercard is my left foot.
so the American Express is what then? My pecker? Shit, blow jobs are gonna be expensive.
 

CaryC

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Oh I remember those days well, I held on to my Irish Punts as long as possible,
Having to trade in our currency for EU funny money was not a good move.

I was already on the mountain top and had long hair , no white robes though, no sandals either, army boots are more my thing :lol:

Beyond being a Jesus Freak, my point was: it happened along time ago, and nothing seems to have come of it, other than tweaking the system.

And most of my hair growing back, after it burned.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
I was thinking the same thing. In fact, I believe you posted something about that in one of the end times threads; about the fact that there will be those who even fight back against the AC.

Yes, I did...

Daniel 11:30 ‐ "For the ships of Chittim shall come against him.. "

Ezekiel 28:6‐8 ‐ "Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thou hast set thine heart as the heart of God; Behold, therefore I will bring strangers upon thee, the terrible of the nations: and they shall draw their swords against the beauty of thy wisdom, and they shall defile thy brightness. They shall bring thee down to the pit, and thou shalt die the deaths of them that are slain in the midst of the seas."
 
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Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Want to name any fav's on that? (Hint: China. King of the East? Interesting, or maybe Egypt, King of the South?)

You are right about Egypt but wrong about China.

That isn't what it says...

Revelation 16:12 – “And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.”

The kingS of the east”…

Kings.

Plural.

Wouldn't China be the KING (singular) of the east?

Now, let’s look at the nations east of the Euphrates:

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There are plenty of KingS east of the Euphrates before you get to China. No need to look that far east...

It is always just assumed that China is the only nation that could muster a 200 million man army but that is not looking at the Biblical picture.

Islam...

2 billion adherents globally...

Do you think they could muster an army of 200 million?

A common figure is that 15% of Muslims actively participate in jihad, while the rest are enjoined by the Quran and Haddith to support them materially, which is quite the logistics center.

15% of 2 billion is 300 million.

Not only can Islam field an army the size described in the Bible... They can exceed it by a large margin.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
My picks to rise against the AntiChrist?

Micah 5:5 - "And this One shall be peace. When the Assyrian comes into our land, And when he treads in our palaces, Then we will raise against him Seven shepherds and eight princely men"

Eight Princes and seven shepherds rise to fight AntiChrist.

I cannot name them all but it is MY OPINION ( whatever that is worth ) that it appears God is using the nations of Europe that aided in the slaughter of His people in WWII and who are now repentant and sorry of such behavior.

So, it looks to me like Hungary and Poland may be in that category ( and their "princely men" are also protecting their people from jihad attacks ).

Germany does not qualify because they are importing the scourge of Islam and forcing it on other countries.

Other than those two, I am not sure...

Again, just my opinion.

Egypt does push back against the AntiChrist, as does Iran, but the AntiChrist handles those two countries with relative ease. So, I would take Egypt out of the mix, even though God saves them in the end from total destruction ( Iran was never considered ).
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
ok. so I have a Amazon card - that would be my right hand. the Home Depot card is my left hand.
my visa . . . is what my right foot? and the mastercard is my left foot.
so the American Express is what then? My pecker? Shit, blow jobs are gonna be expensive.

Your account is just tied in to your palm print so your Amazon, Home Depot, Visa, Mastercard and your American Express can all link to your palm print. No need for separate appendages...
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Your account is just tied in to your palm print so your Amazon, Home Depot, Visa, Mastercard and your American Express can all link to your palm print. No need for separate appendages...
Yes, and you may not realize how significant that statement is.

You will waive your hand across an "Amazon" biometric palm reader. The biometric reader validates the palm print by comparing the palm it read with the palm print which "Amazon" has stored at its "palm" (formerly know as card) processor and collects a fee from the merchant for the service.
Amazon is creating a new method of processing credit in order to collect the merchant fees - which effectively puts "card" processors out of the market.
Amazon is encroaching on banking.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Amazon is working to develop biometric scanners to link handprints to credit cards, allowing shoppers to buy with the swipe of their palm

Connor Perrett

Jan 18, 2020, 1:37 PM

Amazon is working with credit card companies to create terminals to allow users to pay for items with biometric data from their handprint, The WSJ reported.
  • The online retailer previously patented such technology, which had been presumed to be used at its Whole Food stores
  • Amazon currently allows shoppers at its Amazon Go grocery store to pay for items without ever going through a checkout process by downloading the Amazon Go app.
  • The technology could give Amazon more information about consumer spending habits, which could allow them to charge a higher rate to advertisers.
  • Visit Business Insider's homepage here.
Amazon has plans to create payment terminals that would allow shoppers to link a credit card with their own handprint, allowing them to pay at brick-and-mortar stores by simply waving their hand across a scanner, according to a report Saturday from The Wall Street Journal.
The WSJ reported that discussions to create the pay-by-hand terminals are in their early stages, though Amazon has already begun the development process with Visa and is in talks to work with MasterCard.
Amazon's plans are the latest instance of big tech encroaching into the financial industry. In 2014, Apple began offering Apple Pay, a service that allows users to pay with a tap of their phone or watch on an NFC reader. Last year, the company partnered with Goldman Sachs to launch Apple Card.
A previous Business Insider report in November 2019 detailed Google's plan to allow users to open checking accounts – part of a partnership with Citigroup and Stanford Federal Credit Union. Those plans are expected to materialize sometime this year, per the report.
JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, and Synchrony Financial have discussed linking their cardholder's accounts with the Amazon palm payment technology, though as The WSJ noted, card companies are in the process of trying to determine whether companies like Amazon, Apple, and Google intend to work as collaborators or competitors. Some companies worry that in the long run, these tech giants could eliminate them from the equation entirely, per the WSJ report.
Card issuers have other concerns too, like how customers would be able to store multiple cards using their biometric handprint, and how they would be able to choose between the cards when making a payment. The companies are reportedly also worried about how Amazon would stop a thief from linking a stolen card to their own handprint, per The WSJ report.
Another hurdle, The Wall Street Journal noted, will be calming consumers' worries around providing more personal data, in this case biometric data, to big tech companies amid the industry's myriad of scandals. Per The Wall Street Journal, in collaborating with well-established card issuers, Amazon hopes to gain their knowledge and resources in maintaining consumer security.
As The Wall Street Journal noted, it's not Amazon's first foray into unique payment methods, either. At its Amazon Go grocery stores, patrons log into an app on their phone and then sensors in the store track what items customers pick up. Customers can leave the store without ever physically paying, as they're automatically charged when they take items from the store.
It's not the first time Amazon has hinted at such plans. In December 2019, Amazon patented technology that would allow the company to identify individuals via their handprint, by detecting unique identifiers like wrinkles, creases, and bone structure. The New York Post said such technology could be used at Amazon's Whole Food stores.
At the time, Recode reported the patent could also be useful at Amazon Go stores, because it could provide a way for consumers to shop without having to download the Amazon Go app to their phones, though the report Saturday from The Wall Street Journal indicated that Amazon's intentions with the scanners go beyond their own marketplaces.
Sources familiar with the project told The Wall Street Journal that the data collected, including where and when people shop, would be stored on Amazon's servers. This could allow Amazon to market products to consumers using their brick-and-mortar shopping habits. The Wall Street Journal said, in turn, Amazon could charge higher prices to advertisers, as they have more information about consumer shopping behavior.
 

JMG91

Veteran Member
Yes, and you may not realize how significant that statement is.

You will waive your hand across an "Amazon" biometric palm reader. The biometric reader validates the palm print by comparing the palm it read with the palm print which "Amazon" has stored at its "palm" (formerly know as card) processor and collects a fee from the merchant for the service.
Amazon is creating a new method of processing credit in order to collect the merchant fees - which effectively puts "card" processors out of the market.
Amazon is encroaching on banking.
Yeah, like Jeff Bezos--that commie loser--needs to control any more of the world.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Yes, and you may not realize how significant that statement is.

You will waive your hand across an "Amazon" biometric palm reader. The biometric reader validates the palm print by comparing the palm it read with the palm print which "Amazon" has stored at its "palm" (formerly know as card) processor and collects a fee from the merchant for the service.
Amazon is creating a new method of processing credit in order to collect the merchant fees - which effectively puts "card" processors out of the market.
Amazon is encroaching on banking.


New announcement out about this today (heard on WSB radio) and new articles out about it.

Shades of the future (and past---see REL sig for what I mean there)

 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
From another source:

Amazon on Tuesday is unveiling a new biometric technology called Amazon One that allows shoppers to pay at stores by placing their palm over a scanning device when they walk in the door or when they check out. The first time they register to use this tech, a customer will scan their palm and insert their payment card at a terminal; after that, they can simply pay with their hand. The hand-scanning tech isn’t just for Amazon’s own stores — the company hopes to sell it to other retailers, including competitors, too.

 

raven

TB Fanatic
I had an Amazon credit card. Technically I still have it.
Used it once. OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Never again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
****ing 24% interest rate.
No wonder they want their credit card on your hand
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
Can someone cite a bible passage that says there is only one antichrist, and he has yet to come?

And, as for the number of the beast, the Greek scriptures did not use Arabic numerals. Perhaps a search of "chi xi stigma" would open some eyes.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
lets forget about the anitchrist for a minute - ok - just for shits and grins

why the **** do you need a credit card on your hand? are you disabled? can you not wear pants with pockets?
do you not have arms to tote a purse? a back for a back pack? or a fanny for a fanny pack?

Oh, I see. Maybe you think it can't be stolen that way. You don;t think the ****ers won't chop your wrist off? Shit, one of the most popular scenes in movies today is someone getting a body part chopped off. They chop off fingers and pop out eyes for biometric locks on TV. Chip is hand is no safer.

And what you gonna do at night or at a hookers? Put your hand in a safe?

Shiiii-it. Chip in your hand is not gonna solve yer problems
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
Jeff 'Landfill' Bezos wants a credit card in your hand so that you'll buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, etc...
 

Seeker22

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Jeff 'Landfill' Bezos wants a credit card in your hand so that you'll buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, etc...

Which is exactly why I buy somewhere else. As rich as that thing is, he doesn't need any of mine.
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
Can someone cite a bible passage that says there is only one antichrist, and he has yet to come?

And, as for the number of the beast, the Greek scriptures did not use Arabic numerals. Perhaps a search of "chi xi stigma" would open some eyes.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, "
(3)Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
(4)Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

Thee antichrist. The one filled with satan himself.
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, "
(3)Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
(4)Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God."

Thee antichrist. The one filled with satan himself.

Thee son of perdition. I asked about antichrist(s).
 

bracketquant

Veteran Member
one and the same.

Again I ask, where is there a passage in the Bible that says there is only one antichrist, who has yet to come?

1st John 2:18, 2:22, 4:3, and 2nd John 7 are the only places that I can reference antichrist.

It's a good thing I didn't ask how many sheep entered the ark.
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
Again I ask, where is there a passage in the Bible that says there is only one antichrist, who has yet to come?

1st John 2:18, 2:22, 4:3, and 2nd John 7 are the only places that I can reference antichrist....

1 John 2:18, "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have
heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there
many antichrists
; whereby we know that it is the last
time."

John just said here that there is an antichrist (one) and also many antichrists.
If John were speaking only about antichrists, then it would have read "antichrists shall come", but it does not.
(antichrists are those who follow the ways of thee antichrist.-btw, spiritually, thee antichrist is satan himself in a human body.)

For those that want to know, lets break down 2 Thessalonians 2:

2 Thessalonians 2:1-10, "

(1) Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
(2)That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand."

verse 2 speaks that this is in regard to the Day of Christ.

"(3) Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; "

Sounds like he's speaking of a man, not many.

"(4) Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself
that he is God
."

Not only does the man continue to oppose and exhault himself above God, he claims to be God.
Who said that he wanted to be like the most high? (Isaiah 14:12-14)

"(5) Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?"

John told them of this before.

"(6) And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. "
(7) For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
(8) And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
(9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, "

That man will do the works of satan, with all his power at his disposal. sounds like the son of perdiction to me. (Judas had satan enter him and after commiting the works of satan, was damned for it. (Luke 22:3 / John 13:27)

(10) And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved."

And he will deceive all but the elect of God.
 
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