Farm Goat milk question

Willow

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Before asking the question I should give everyone some background info.

A good friend of mine keeps her goat at my house to milk as she doesn't have the time with her job and kids. I am milking one of my goats too so milking two instead of one wasn't a big deal. The milk from the two goats is combined at the time of milking.

One doe is a Nubian Boer cross and the other is a purebred LaMancha. We did culture and sensitivity on both does before we starting using the milk and both came back clean. Did stool samples and both goats were negative for internal parasites. Both does are in good health. Milk tastes great although once in a great while I detect a very slight goaty after taste, which isn't unusual.

In the winter, when I dried off the does before kidding, the friend had to purchase milk from a local goat milk dairy. The dairy is well known and produces excellent quality milk. Before we stopped milking, her daughter was drinking the milk (raw) and sleeping through the night. When she switched to the other milk (also raw) the baby stopped sleeping through the night and continued doing that until our milk was available again. The baby is now once again sleeping peacefully through the night. Her mom did try an experiment to see if it was just a coincidence and used the commercial dairy milk a couple of nights. The baby once again started waking up and fretting during the night.

So, as far as we can see, it is the milk that is somehow allowing the baby to sleep through the night. My question is, has anyone else seen this and why is this happening?

During the course of the two lactations, the goats here have been on several different hay sources and I have changed their grain...so there is no consistency in feed, unless you could say that good quality is the consistency. My only thought is the butterfat content. Both does that I have come from breeds with higher butterfat. The dairy has a high number of Alpine and Saanan does which are known for quantity of milk with a slightly reduced butterfat content. It is highly likely that our milk is noticeably higher in butterfat than the dairy milk.

Does anyone have any ideas on why the baby sleeps all night long and doesn't wake up fretting on my milk but does on the commercial dairy milk? Any opinions would be appreciated.

Willow
 

moldy

Veteran Member
Fat helps with the 'I've got a full tummy' feeling, and takes longer to digest. I would guess that is the reason. I feel for a mom that has a child that is that sensitive to diet changes.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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IF the fat and solids are higher, I agree that would be the reason. The only other thing I can think of is that if the commercial dairy is using some sort of udder wash or teat dip which has *something* which the baby is sensitive to (iodine, maybe?), and it's only manifesting as restlessness. How old is the "baby", anyway? Certainly heading into toddlerhood, from the timeline?

Summerthyme
 

Willow

Veteran Member
She is about eleven months now. Mom suffers from a severe allergy to onions and eggs so an allergy could be it.

Just talked to mom and baby slept through the night again. Also said that her father (baby's grandfather) said my milk tastes WAY better than the other milk. Apparently he won't drink the dairy milk but is drinking milk as he normally does now that they are back on the milk from the goats here.

I wonder if the chemical angle might be right. I don't know anything about all those washes as I don't use any chemicals at milking time. I do wash all milking equipment with hot water, Dawn and bleach but rinse like crazy.

Willow
 

Willow

Veteran Member
Not sure about melatonin levels.

I'm thinking I need to find someone with raw milk that doesn't use an udder wash or commercial milking machine cleaners and see if the baby does fine with that.

Willow
 

Handyman

Veteran Member
could be the feed rations, or the grasses,

If I feed my goats millet, my SIL has problems and if I do not he is fine with the milk,
 

Willow

Veteran Member
We thought about grain and hay too. I have four different sources of hay so it isn't consistent. I switched the company I use for grain so that changed from last lactation to this one. Of course the dairy could be feeding something that bothers her. I'll have to check on that. Neither my goats or the dairy send the goats to pasture so it isn't that.

Willow
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
Possibly the udder washes, or some other chemical, but I would guess it's the butterfat. If the baby is that sensitive to the fat content, I think it's extremely important to make sure it gets sufficient high-quality fat in the diet, as fat content and quality seems to be a key in several health issues, both mental and physical (autism and auto-immune diseases, in particular). My autistic daughter improves noticeably with coconut oil and fish oil in her diet -- wish we'd known this information when she was a baby.

As for the taste of the milk, when I first got goats, I had Alpines, then a Saanen, then a couple of Toggenburgs. My girls, who were about six, four, and three when we got the first goats, would not drink the milk without chocolate in it, and I could taste a 'goaty' taste to the milk. It was faint, but it was there, and it wasn't based on what they were eating, because that varied depending on time of year and our location. Later when I got Nubians, was the first time they would drink the milk without something to flavor it. Kinders, Oberhaslis, and a Boer/Oberhasli doe also had good-flavored milk (and except for the Oberhaslis, higher butterfat). Some people will try to tell you that the breed of goat doesn't have any effect on flavor, but in my experience it most certainly does.

Kathleen
 
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