Misc Grocery Store Economics: Why Are Rotisserie Chickens So Cheap?

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Grocery Store Economics: Why Are Rotisserie Chickens So Cheap?
Cat Vasko
March 4, 2014
www.kcet.org/food/grocery-store-economics-why-are-rotisserie-chickens-so-cheap

A couple of years ago, I got it into my head that I wanted to roast a whole chicken, just because. I wandered around my local Ralphs for a few minutes looking for poultry that hadn't already been turned into individually shrink-wrapped meat units before asking for help. The gentleman I flagged down blinked a few times at my question. "Um," he answered finally. "You know we have chickens for sale up at the front of the store that have already been cooked, right?"

I bought the raw chicken anyway. I took it home, rubbed it in butter and herbs, shoved a lemon half up its butt, and roasted it low and slow for the majority of the day. It turned out okay. For all the work it took, it certainly wasn't notably better than a store-bought rotisserie chicken, and with the other ingredients factored in, it cost significantly more. Right now, an uncooked chicken at Ralphs runs you $9.87, but a rotisserie chicken is $6.99; at Gelson's, you'll pay $8.99 for a cooked chicken or $12.67 for the raw version; and at that beloved emporium of insanity Whole Foods, a rotisserie chicken is $8.99, while a whole chicken from the butcher counter is $12.79 ... per pound.

In retrospect, it's not hard to understand why the fellow at Ralphs thought I was weird. But in most cases, preparing meals from scratch is significantly cheaper than buying them pre-made. What makes rotisserie chickens the exception?

Grocery Store Economics

The answer lies in the curious economics of the full-service supermarket. For instance, the Gelson's by me offers, among other amenities, a hot bar, a salad bar, a bakery, a gelateria, a full-service deli and an olive bar, because we live in L.A. so why not. But how can it afford to put out all of this food fresh every day?

It can't. Neither can Ralphs. Even Whole Foods' notoriously inflated prices don't offset that level of production. Instead, much like hunters who strive to use every part of the animal, grocery stores attempt to sell every modicum of fresh food they stock. Produce past its prime is chopped up for the salad bar; meat that's overdue for sale is cooked up and sold hot. Some mega-grocers like Costco have dedicated rotisserie chicken programs, but employees report that standard supermarkets routinely pop unsold chickens from the butcher into the ol' rotisserie oven.

Though supermarkets are loath to admit as much, likely for fear of turning off the squeamish, the former CEO of Trader Joe's cheerfully confirmed in a recent interview that meat and produce are recycled into prepared foods. And the vendor of one of the leading commercial rotisserie ovens offers, as a complement to its wares, "culinary support" that, among other things, aims to "develop programs to minimize food shrinkage and waste" and "improve production planning to optimize the amount of fresh food that is available during both peak and down times."

Rotisserie chickens aren't even the end of the line. When unsold, fresh meats, fruits and veggies that have passed their sell-by points can be "cooked up for in-store deli and salad counters before they spoil," per no less a source than a consultant to the supermarket industry.

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Thinking back with horror on all the times you picked up a prepared meal on the way home from a long day of work, then demolished it within ten minutes of walking through the door? Don't panic just yet.

Safe as Milk

It's worth noting, first of all, that sell-by, use-by and best-by dates were never intended as indicators of food safety, but rather as estimates of food quality. The USDA itself says that food product dating is intended to "help the purchaser to know the time limit to purchase or use the product at its best quality. It is not a safety date."

Further, it's pretty well documented that these estimates are no substitute for boring old human discretion. Sites like StillTasty.com aim to help consumers get the most out of their groceries by educating them on the real shelf lives of thousands of foods as well as ways to ascertain quality that have nothing to do with the numbers stamped on the package. And a recent report from Harvard's Food Law and Policy Clinic suggests that because date labels are wildly inaccurate a lot of the time, they're pretty much directly responsible for 60 billion pounds of wasted food every year. Even more disturbingly (especially for we Californians), the report estimates that 25% of the fresh water used in the US is "squandered on the production of wasted food." Awesome.

In fact, in spite of their creative uses of items that have passed their sell-by dates, grocery stores are still being conservative enough when it comes to food safety to waste plenty of usable meat and produce -- around $900 million in inventory annually, according to a 2001 study. And as the Harvard report points out, major retailers aren't generally wont to take a loss, meaning their waste "ultimately could be a cost born by consumers in the price of goods."

So not only do you have nothing to fear from that grocery store rotisserie chicken, you could actually be doing a triple good deed by purchasing it -- making your life easier, keeping prices down for your fellow shoppers, and helping the environment.
 

Zahra

Veteran Member
Yep, I get the $4.99 Rotisserie chicken from Costco about once a month and do the same thing. We eat sliders from the breast meat and King's Hawaiian rolls for a couple of days, feed the rest to the dogs, and use the carcass for broth. That's a lot of bang for the buck!
 

Bardou

Veteran Member
rotisserie chickens are loss leaders.

Exactly! Costco's rotisserie chickens are $4.99 each and are really good! Costco knows that you aren't going to go into the store, walk back to the chickens and buy just one. Nope, you're going to walk out of there with more than just 1 chicken, you're going to buy other things you don't really need, but while you're there....

I buy a rotisserie chicken now and then from Costco when I want to make tortilla soup. I can get at least 3-4 meals off that one chicken.
 

Gercarson

Veteran Member
I buy a rotisserie chicken from Sam's to make chicken salad. Note that those chickens are full of "broth" and that's why they taste so good . . . well, I like the way they taste.
 

tiredude

Veteran Member
Yes Rotisserie chicken is a modern miracle. In case you all haven't come across this I will tell you …… other stores are catching on to this. I went in to a Kroger the other day and bought a fully cooked 3-4 pound turkey breast for 9.99. They had other foods as well. I couldn't have done it myself for that much...… but for me its the savings of time. Very convenient.
 

JF&P

Deceased
$5 at my local safeway....they really are delicious...the legs and thighs just melt in my mouth.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Really? I don't buy commercial chicken... don't like the way it's raised. But AFAIK, NO commercial chickens are given hormones of any type... it's simply not necessary, given the extreme growth rate and feed efficiency bred into the CornishX hybrids.

As far as antibiotics ... i suspect most places use a coccidiostat for 5 days on newly hatched birds... I guess you can call it an antibiotic if you want, but amprolium is not used in human medicine. It simply controls the population of coccidia in the guts of baby animals (used in ruminants and poultry) until they develop antibodies so they can fight it off. I used For it in exactly that way for years on our meat birds, until I discovered that colloidal silver worked...

Almost all "routine" use of antibiotics in feed for prevention is banned these days, and it's too darned expensive to use them if you don't need to. The profit margin is razor thin as it is.

The only thing I've seen in the labels if store bought poultry is the ridiculous amount of added water and "broth"... up to 27% by weight. I think it's stupid and ruins the quality of the meat, but it's not generally health hazard.

Summerthyme
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
We all know home raised chicken is much better. Yet until we all can do so, this is the best we can do with our budgets.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
We all know home raised chicken is much better. Yet until we all can do so, this is the best we can do with our budgets.

Both Sam's Club and WM have rotisserie chickens for $4.95 it's a cheap alternative to eating out, especially when I'm in a rush and can pick up a two-pound bag of coleslaw for $1.99 and add the dressing myself. Poof dinner for two for less than $8.00!!!
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
Well in China if you have money you buy your chickens live and have them killed and cleaned in front of you.

The cooked chickens in the cheap places are sick or dead chickens well cooked with seasonings.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Well in China if you have money you buy your chickens live and have them killed and cleaned in front of you.

The cooked chickens in the cheap places are sick or dead chickens well cooked with seasonings.

Here in the states that’s not supposed to happe. These chickens are loss leaders designed to get you to spend more money on other prepared foods like salad mixes, etc.
 

SAPPHIRE

Veteran Member
recently bought rotisserie chicken from Sprouts...….tasted great and made several lunches and a couple of protein snacks for my dh in rehab (the food is horrible!!)…..will do it again.....and make soup from carcass (sp?)……...win/win
 

tiredude

Veteran Member
There are so many chickens in the process.....they would never introduce 'bad' chickens to a chain like Walmart, Kroger, etc for 'rotisserie' duty simply to lower costs. They would spend more trying to track it...… they all get what they get....'bad' are taken out before distribution. The grocers couldn't afford for a rumor like that to come out and damage their reputation.
 

Lonebull

Veteran Member
Grocery Store Economics: Why Are Rotisserie Chickens So Cheap?
Cat Vasko
March 4, 2014
www.kcet.org/food/grocery-store-economics-why-are-rotisserie-chickens-so-cheap

A couple of years ago, I got it into my head that I wanted to roast a whole chicken, just because. I wandered around my local Ralphs for a few minutes looking for poultry that hadn't already been turned into individually shrink-wrapped meat units before asking for help. The gentleman I flagged down blinked a few times at my question. "Um," he answered finally. "You know we have chickens for sale up at the front of the store that have already been cooked, right?"

I bought the raw chicken anyway. I took it home, rubbed it in butter and herbs, shoved a lemon half up its butt, and roasted it low and slow for the majority of the day. It turned out okay. For all the work it took, it certainly wasn't notably better than a store-bought rotisserie chicken, and with the other ingredients factored in, it cost significantly more. Right now, an uncooked chicken at Ralphs runs you $9.87, but a rotisserie chicken is $6.99; at Gelson's, you'll pay $8.99 for a cooked chicken or $12.67 for the raw version; and at that beloved emporium of insanity Whole Foods, a rotisserie chicken is $8.99, while a whole chicken from the butcher counter is $12.79 ... per pound.

In retrospect, it's not hard to understand why the fellow at Ralphs thought I was weird. But in most cases, preparing meals from scratch is significantly cheaper than buying them pre-made. What makes rotisserie chickens the exception?

Grocery Store Economics

The answer lies in the curious economics of the full-service supermarket. For instance, the Gelson's by me offers, among other amenities, a hot bar, a salad bar, a bakery, a gelateria, a full-service deli and an olive bar, because we live in L.A. so why not. But how can it afford to put out all of this food fresh every day?

It can't. Neither can Ralphs. Even Whole Foods' notoriously inflated prices don't offset that level of production. Instead, much like hunters who strive to use every part of the animal, grocery stores attempt to sell every modicum of fresh food they stock. Produce past its prime is chopped up for the salad bar; meat that's overdue for sale is cooked up and sold hot. Some mega-grocers like Costco have dedicated rotisserie chicken programs, but employees report that standard supermarkets routinely pop unsold chickens from the butcher into the ol' rotisserie oven.

Though supermarkets are loath to admit as much, likely for fear of turning off the squeamish, the former CEO of Trader Joe's cheerfully confirmed in a recent interview that meat and produce are recycled into prepared foods. And the vendor of one of the leading commercial rotisserie ovens offers, as a complement to its wares, "culinary support" that, among other things, aims to "develop programs to minimize food shrinkage and waste" and "improve production planning to optimize the amount of fresh food that is available during both peak and down times."

Rotisserie chickens aren't even the end of the line. When unsold, fresh meats, fruits and veggies that have passed their sell-by points can be "cooked up for in-store deli and salad counters before they spoil," per no less a source than a consultant to the supermarket industry.

GROCERY STORE ECONOMICS

How Food Companies Hide Their Price Hikes
Thinking back with horror on all the times you picked up a prepared meal on the way home from a long day of work, then demolished it within ten minutes of walking through the door? Don't panic just yet.

Safe as Milk

It's worth noting, first of all, that sell-by, use-by and best-by dates were never intended as indicators of food safety, but rather as estimates of food quality. The USDA itself says that food product dating is intended to "help the purchaser to know the time limit to purchase or use the product at its best quality. It is not a safety date."

Further, it's pretty well documented that these estimates are no substitute for boring old human discretion. Sites like StillTasty.com aim to help consumers get the most out of their groceries by educating them on the real shelf lives of thousands of foods as well as ways to ascertain quality that have nothing to do with the numbers stamped on the package. And a recent report from Harvard's Food Law and Policy Clinic suggests that because date labels are wildly inaccurate a lot of the time, they're pretty much directly responsible for 60 billion pounds of wasted food every year. Even more disturbingly (especially for we Californians), the report estimates that 25% of the fresh water used in the US is "squandered on the production of wasted food." Awesome.

In fact, in spite of their creative uses of items that have passed their sell-by dates, grocery stores are still being conservative enough when it comes to food safety to waste plenty of usable meat and produce -- around $900 million in inventory annually, according to a 2001 study. And as the Harvard report points out, major retailers aren't generally wont to take a loss, meaning their waste "ultimately could be a cost born by consumers in the price of goods."

So not only do you have nothing to fear from that grocery store rotisserie chicken, you could actually be doing a triple good deed by purchasing it -- making your life easier, keeping prices down for your fellow shoppers, and helping the environment.
As they are already cooked - smoke em for and hour at 225 degrees for a different taste
 

lonestar09

Veteran Member
There is also a rotisserie chicken cookbook that has many recipes in it. Got a copy cheap and have used it several times. Also get them half price at times if they make too many. Can't beat a cooked chicken for $2.39.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Both Sam's Club and WM have rotisserie chickens for $4.95 it's a cheap alternative to eating out, especially when I'm in a rush and can pick up a two-pound bag of coleslaw for $1.99 and add the dressing myself. Poof dinner for two for less than $8.00!!!

Yeah, the crew I worked with a couple of jobs ago would go this route on the weekend. Back then, the local Lucky's would run a deal for 6 bucks a meal, chicken and all the trimmings, that would feed 4 fully grown men. If we were really hungry, we'd throw in a pie for a couple of more bucks.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
There is also a rotisserie chicken cookbook that has many recipes in it. Got a copy cheap and have used it several times. Also get them half price at times if they make too many. Can't beat a cooked chicken for $2.39.

Yep on the half priced chicken! Buy two pull the meat off of the bones and freeze for chicken salad sandwiches. Save the bones and the juice for soup.
 
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