INTL Harry and Meghan plan to do things their way.

MountainBiker

Veteran Member
You didn't read this part:

Now this was written before Harry was even engaged. And much has been written about Prince Charles desiring a slimmed down royal family. Add in Harry and Markle's stated which to distance themselves from the senior royals and there is an even greater likelihood that there will be no title for Archie and that it is possible that the current duke and duchess of Sussex may have those titles stripped as well.

Yes, it is all speculation - then and now - but certainly possible that some change in title is going to occur. Certainly Markle is going to be cut off from any additional title regardless of who is on the thrown. Her refusal to follow protocol guarantees something. Harry is essentially abdicating is current title and the associated duties that come with the title, as well as the ones placed upon him as a form of honor. I want to see what his reception is going to be as the grand poobah of rugby this coming week. He took that over for his Grandmother, The Queen. If he is a no show that will be a real slap.
As I said, UK the rules of British royalty are complicated. Charles wanting to slim down royalty is working royalty, as in the ones on the payroll. Current the working royals are all of the Queen's kids, William & Harry & their wives and some of the Queen's cousins. The Queen has already excluded her grandchildren by Anne, Andrew, & Edward, and Anne's & Edward's spouses. I think Charles will offload the Queen's cousins and not allow his nieces & nephews to gain the status of working royals which Andrew at least has already pushed for with his daughters. Edward's kids are still too young.

The HRH designation is in addition to the underlying Prince/Princess. Harry can cease being styled HRH Prince Harry but he'll still be Prince Harry and he'll still be a royal, just not a working one on the payroll. Again, Harry is more popular than the rest of the gang and they need to tread softly on having this look like he's being punished for wanting a life of his own.
 

Sub-Zero

Veteran Member
I don't know if this aspect has been posted, but Meghan is living with Frank Guistra. He has donated tens of milllions of dollars to the Clinton "charities", most notably before the Uranium one deal (and after he bought into the Canadian companies that owned the U.S. uranium). Other interesting facts about him as well in the article at the link: INTL - Billionaire Clinton friend providing luxury Canadian hideaway for Meghan and Prince Harry

The Markle's (yeah, I went there) are going to be self-employed influence peddlers, just like I predicted.

And, I read on the previous page that the Queen was all for this. Does anyone remember a few years ago when the big story about her was that she was almost broke (just above a million pounds)? Connect the dots.
 
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NoDandy

Has No Life - Lives on TB
As an American, I really do not care what they do !

That said, I do believe Harry is not real bright, and has made some very unwise choices !
 

Marthanoir

TB Fanatic
In his defence Harry was extremely popular in the UK especially amongst the military as he was a FAC (Forward Air Controller) in Helmand Province until outed by the euro media he was pulled out for safety concerns and went back in as a Apache pilot.
He could have done Sandhust then drovw a desk for a few years but chose to be on the thick of it.

A big division was caused when he got "Woke", on a whole Royalists in the UK are conservatives, the Left are anti-Royal.

I haven't been following it as its only a bit of curiosity as to what the neighbour's are up to but apparently the military are feeling very betrayed by Harry
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
Jeep this analysis is correct, total out would be the best option, let 'em get on with it without any help from the Royals or the British taxpayer. Half in and out would have given them a Carte Blanche to exploit the British taxpayer and invent Meg's Number 5 or some kind of useless luxury brand laced with a modicum of "charity work" financed by film and TV companies, e.g. their tour of Africa etc.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I don't know if this aspect has been posted, but Meghan is living with Frank Guistra. He has donated tens of milllions of dollars to the Clinton "charities", most notably before the Uranium one deal (and after he bought into the Canadian companies that owned the U.S. uranium). Other interesting facts about him as well in the article at the link: INTL - Billionaire Clinton friend providing luxury Canadian hideaway for Meghan and Prince Harry

The Markle's (yeah, I went there) are going to be self-employed influence peddlers, just like I predicted.

And, I read on the previous page that the Queen was all for this. Does anyone remember a few years ago when the big story about her was that she was almost broke (just above a million pounds)? Connect the dots.

Don't forget Harry is best buds with Obama.
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
The more I read these articles the more I want them to leave. If you're a Royal you have a duty to perform duties otherwise there is no justification for the taxpayer support of the family. Meg wanted to leave before she married him, she knew what they were like and what was entailed as being a member of the Firm, she never wanted it in the first place. If Harry was heartbroken then he has no personality whatsoever and is completely dominated by Meg. The whole wedding was a taxpayer's funded farce and Meg knew this from the start.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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As I said, UK the rules of British royalty are complicated. Charles wanting to slim down royalty is working royalty, as in the ones on the payroll. Current the working royals are all of the Queen's kids, William & Harry & their wives and some of the Queen's cousins. The Queen has already excluded her grandchildren by Anne, Andrew, & Edward, and Anne's & Edward's spouses. I think Charles will offload the Queen's cousins and not allow his nieces & nephews to gain the status of working royals which Andrew at least has already pushed for with his daughters. Edward's kids are still too young.

The HRH designation is in addition to the underlying Prince/Princess. Harry can cease being styled HRH Prince Harry but he'll still be Prince Harry and he'll still be a royal, just not a working one on the payroll. Again, Harry is more popular than the rest of the gang and they need to tread softly on having this look like he's being punished for wanting a life of his own.

The fact that a king can abdicate and lose his title is a prime example of when a prince can change to a commoner. If they are giving up their senior royal position, and intend on making money off of still being royal, there are several "royal watchers" that are saying that Harry may have to abdicate his title to accomplish their stated goals.

And Harry isn't nearly as popular as he was as a kid/teen/young adult. The military, for the last 6 to 9 months, have been giving him failing grades. In particular his position as the Captain General of the Royal Marines has come under severe criticism as he has not be fulfilling his duties. He's not been fulfilling any of his positions, not even his knighthood as Knight Commander of the Royal Victorian Order.

Harry has put himself in a very weakened position. The Queen not even references "Harry and Meghan" by their titles is quite significant. Whether the loss of titles will be willing or a consequence is yet to be seen.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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I hadn't realized it until the last couple of days but the tax issue for Markle and Harry has been reported on pretty extensively ever since their marriage.





 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Yep, and they wanted to tax Harry from day one on HIS income too, as soon as they married - I kept bringing this up because while I no longer think it was a driving force in what is going on, it got things off to a rocky start with I think a lot of "The Palace" folks that run things being caught off guard.

I mean having IRS agents show up almost before the honeymoon was over demanding all the royal details of Harry's income and to see the couples assigned apartments so they could "estimate rent" (even though none was paid) to tax it on that estimated value did not go over well.

I have no idea what eventually happened with Harry's personal financial information, things kind of went dark but I know the Palace was trying to find ways to refuse to hand it over in total to a foreign government, simply because it "isn't done" and is somethings are considered national security issues (certain properties or parts of them etc).

I've mentioned this a number of times, but I think unless you live over here and are used to five posts a day on the Ex-pat lists from terrified Americans (usually long-term spouses) of Europeans who are in trouble not because they owe any US Taxes but because they didn't file paperwork and/or because now the IRS is going after their spouse who just inherited the family farm and the spouse is refusing the cooperate.

This can mean the US Citizen faces choices like never-ever going home, they didn't go after Boris Johnson until his Mom died and the IRS wanted inheritance taxes on his UK property.

They even do this to people who have never lived in the US and often don't even realize they are US citizens (the children of foreign students born while parents were studying in the US is the most common).

OK enough thread-drift - again this story is very much of the main part of the front pages except for the Daily Mail - obviously this is at the request of the palace, which isn't a legal demand but is often respected especially if it comes from the Queen.
 

pinkelsteinsmom

Veteran Member
Leave it to one of the "new master race" to fook up becoming a Royal Princes, complete with Royal sparket which is still hidden behind a blanket somewhere. Rumor has it the royal court is not so PC and shunned princes sparkle. Princes sparkle is in for a fall and poor dirty Harry will have to beg on bended knee to come back home.
 

bbbuddy

DEPLORABLE ME
PRINCESS sparkle never intended to do the drudge work, she was just in it to gain fame so she could cash in on it, she's ALL ABOUT THE BRAND.
The best thing would be if no one ever bought any of her "brand" but we all know that isn't going to happen.....
 

Trivium Pursuit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This really is his twitter and the comments below are quite interesting... just click on the link to go to the tweet and read (don't need to have an account).

View: https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1216781189010333700
Best comment from inside that Twitter which was recommended reading. From the always insightful Michelle Malkin. "The toxic impact of SJW Hollywood feminism on Western man cannot be understated."
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen

Meghan Markle knew exactly what she signed up for

By Cindy Adams
January 14, 2020 | 6:13pm

With British blats leaking all over America’s happenings, only fair for me to expel bodily fluid on theirs.

Selfish Meghan knew precisely exactly — bet your assets on it — what she was doing. For openers, why’d she want that twit Harry? Why?? Because playing house — or castle — with him was a better role than anything on TV.

An actress, she loves the spotlight. Attention. Importance. She knew a good script when she smelled it. And she knew what parts she needed to flex to get it.

How dare this nothing nobody do that to the queen, who’s 93. Forget even that HM Elizabeth’s a symbol. A monarch. A sovereign. Queen of the realm. She’s first of all a mother, a grandmother, a great-grandmother, a Majesty. This is how you treat a mother? The greatest most precious human being ever in my life was my mother. This is how you treat a mother?

And the way to treat that alleged nitwit husband’s brother? Father? Whole family?

This is how you’re going to teach your baby respect for a parent? How to respect family? Just like how selfish-you respected your own father and stepsister?

And that royal stupidness grandson Harry not revering his grandma? Conspiring to diss her? What’ll he do Mother’s Day? Send Her Majesty that Nazi swastika shirt he once pranced in?

Formerly married, divorced, showbiz, biracial, foreign, American, been around, strong-minded, tough, smart, allegedly maybe could be possibly selfish and headstrong Markle never thought playing the palace would be different?

This is only hearsay, but in London a Brit socialite who knew her way around money, Europe, royalty told me — and my companion, so I wasn’t alone hearing this — that Meghan was known in the old days. “She was around the famous playgrounds Europeans visit . . . and known to be shopping for a rich husband.”

How about Fergie, that other temp duchess who divorced Prince handy dandy randy Andy? She took a handout from Jeffrey Epstein, she made a few quid hyping Weight Watchers, she got photographed sucking a guy’s toes. And when this newest duchesslite no longer needs hairy Harry??? The crapshoot is how long she stays.

She’s already interviewed p.r. folk in the states. Tired of kissing babies, visiting hospitals, laying wreaths and being stymied, she’s already tapped showbiz possibilities in the Colonies. She’ll be back in the business big-time while her husband, who’s never earned a farthing, diapers the kid.

Remember a predecessor of generations gone by? Duchess of Windsor? Who married the almost king? Also had been married and divorced. Also foreign.

Also American. She was not happy afterward. She was tough. I met her. I interviewed her. She was constantly looking to negotiate some sort of financial betterment.

Hey, sic transit, Meghan.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Update:


Unskilled foreigners seek move to Canada
2 DAYS AGO by ALEX HUNTLEY(@AJHUNTLEY)

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OTTAWA – A British and American couple, both unemployed, are seeking to emigrate to Canada despite having no real skills to offer the country, early reports indicate.

British and American media have said that an American actor and her husband have the intention of living in the country on a semi-permanent or permanent basis.
The actor has found some previous work in Toronto which may help her immigration and work permit applications although Citizenship and Immigration Canada has not identified acting as an in-demand trade.

“She has to obtain the proper paperwork indicating that she has a job,” said an Immigration Canada official. “We need references and a criminal record check before her application can move forward, but she hasn’t even been nominated for a single Golden Globe yet.”

‘Being famous’ was not considered a skill in demand unlike a doctor, nurse, engineer, or general labourer. The husband’s application scored 0 out of 70 points on his Canadian work experience despite claiming ‘waving’ and ‘talking’ during his most recent visits to Canada.
The move will also cost Canadians millions in policing and security costs with round-the-clock monitoring.

Some express fear British man will steal ribbon-cutting jobs

On the streets, reactions were mixed among Canadians with some welcoming the fleeing couple, while others feared that Harry would illegally take away ceremonial jobs from hard working Canadians.

The ribbon-cutting and handshaking industries in Canada have been hit hard leaving many politicians and dignitaries out of work.
“I’m not against royal immigration, but they can really mess up a neighbourhood, what with their excessive wealth and palaces,” said Stuart Barton of Toronto. “And they’ll force you to call them ‘Your Royal Highness’ and bring their families with them including that uncle who’s a sex offender. I think they should get out.”

“I think we should be more compassionate to their situation,” said Chadda Singh of Vancouver. “If I had that amount of money, I wouldn’t have any skills either. They have come here to raise their child in peace and plushness.”

Meanwhile, the Refugee Board rejected the pair’s claim that they were fleeing family and governments devolving into authoritarian states.
However, there is a great chance that the couple will be allowed in through the Canadian Inferiority Complex Residency Program."
 

Cacheman

Ultra MAGA!
Canada’s biggest newspaper says Prince Harry and Meghan Markle aren’t welcome

Globe editorial: Harry and Meghan, and why members of the Royal Family can’t live in Canada



Globe editorial: Harry and Meghan, and why members of the Royal Family can’t live in Canada
Editorial

4-6 minutes


Britain is the inventor of one of the world’s great innovations in government: a monarchy that reigns but does not rule. Canada took that system and improved it, by pushing it one step further. The Canadian monarchy is virtual; it neither rules nor resides. Our royals don’t live here. They reign from a distance. Close to our hearts, far from our hearths.

And that is why, in response to the sudden announcement of a vague and evolving plan for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex – Prince Harry and Meghan – to move to Canada while remaining part of the Royal Family, the Trudeau government’s response should be simple and succinct: No.

You are welcome to visit, but so long as you are senior royals, Canada cannot allow you to come to stay.

This isn’t about breaking up with the Crown. On the contrary, it’s about maintaining Canada’s unique and highly successful monarchy.

On Monday, the British paper the Evening Standard reported that sources had told it that Ottawa had agreed to pay for security costs for the soon-to-arrive royal couple. When asked, Finance Minister Bill Morneau told reporters that was untrue, and that his government had not even discussed the matter. The dollars and cents of supporting a royal resident might be significant, but that’s not what’s really at issue. It goes deeper than the possibility of the feds having to find a few million extra bucks.

Canadians like their monarchy, and visits by the Queen and other members of the Royal Family tend to produce outpourings of public enthusiasm. But while the people who embody the Crown pay visits from time to time, they don’t set up a home on the premises. A royal living in this country does not accord with the long-standing nature of the relationship between Canada and Britain, and Canada and the Crown.

If they were ordinary private citizens, plain old Harry and Meghan from Sussex, they would be welcome. But this country’s unique monarchy, and its delicate yet essential place in our constitutional system, means that a royal resident – the Prince is sixth in the line of succession – is not something that Canada can allow. It breaks an unspoken constitutional taboo.

The concept of the Crown is at the centre of the Canadian system of government. Bills aren’t law until they receive royal assent; crimes are prosecuted in the name of Her Majesty by lawyers known as crowns; your passport asks foreign states for protection in the name of the Queen. All of that comes out of a constitutional order, more than a century-and-a-half old, based on the British model.

But though Canada borrowed from Britain, it isn’t Britain and never was. And this country long ago took steps to make that unmistakably clear.

‘Meghan and Harry: If you are reading these comments, please take them to heart and stay in Britain!’ Readers debate: Can the royal couple live in Canada?

Canada never had a class system with hereditary aristocrats like Britain, and Canada definitively broke with the idea of aristocracy when the Nickle Resolution of 1919 asked the British government to stop conferring titles on Canadians. What’s more, with the Statute of Westminster of 1931, Canada’s relationship to Britain was spelled out as one of equal, independent nations.

However, Canada kept the monarchy, and a head of state we share with various Commonwealth countries. The head of state’s representatives here are the governor-general and the provincial lieutenant-governors, who perform essential duties from opening parliaments to deciding who gets to form a government in minority situations. They’re as close as Canada comes to having resident royalty, but they’re not royalty. Instead, they’re merely temporary avatars for a virtual monarch who remains permanently ensconced across the sea.

Furthermore, since the 1950s, governors-general have always been Canadians. Princes are not shipped over here when no useful duties can be found for them on the other side of the Atlantic.

The Sussexes are working out their own personal issues, and Canadians wish them the best of luck. Canada welcomes people of all faiths, nationalities and races, but if you’re a senior member of our Royal Family, this country cannot become your home.

The government should make that clear. There can be no Earl Sussex of Rosedale and no Prince Harry of Point Grey. Canada is not a halfway house for anyone looking to get out of Britain while remaining a royal.
 
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straightstreet

Life is better in flip flops
Canada’s biggest newspaper says Prince Harry and Meghan Markle aren’t welcome

Globe editorial: Harry and Meghan, and why members of the Royal Family can’t live in Canada



Globe editorial: Harry and Meghan, and why members of the Royal Family can’t live in Canada
Editorial

4-6 minutes


Britain is the inventor of one of the world’s great innovations in government: a monarchy that reigns but does not rule. Canada took that system and improved it, by pushing it one step further. The Canadian monarchy is virtual; it neither rules nor resides. Our royals don’t live here. They reign from a distance. Close to our hearts, far from our hearths.

And that is why, in response to the sudden announcement of a vague and evolving plan for the Duke and Duchess of Sussex – Prince Harry and Meghan – to move to Canada while remaining part of the Royal Family, the Trudeau government’s response should be simple and succinct: No.

You are welcome to visit, but so long as you are senior royals, Canada cannot allow you to come to stay.

This isn’t about breaking up with the Crown. On the contrary, it’s about maintaining Canada’s unique and highly successful monarchy.

On Monday, the British paper the Evening Standard reported that sources had told it that Ottawa had agreed to pay for security costs for the soon-to-arrive royal couple. When asked, Finance Minister Bill Morneau told reporters that was untrue, and that his government had not even discussed the matter. The dollars and cents of supporting a royal resident might be significant, but that’s not what’s really at issue. It goes deeper than the possibility of the feds having to find a few million extra bucks.

Canadians like their monarchy, and visits by the Queen and other members of the Royal Family tend to produce outpourings of public enthusiasm. But while the people who embody the Crown pay visits from time to time, they don’t set up a home on the premises. A royal living in this country does not accord with the long-standing nature of the relationship between Canada and Britain, and Canada and the Crown.

If they were ordinary private citizens, plain old Harry and Meghan from Sussex, they would be welcome. But this country’s unique monarchy, and its delicate yet essential place in our constitutional system, means that a royal resident – the Prince is sixth in the line of succession – is not something that Canada can allow. It breaks an unspoken constitutional taboo.

The concept of the Crown is at the centre of the Canadian system of government. Bills aren’t law until they receive royal assent; crimes are prosecuted in the name of Her Majesty by lawyers known as crowns; your passport asks foreign states for protection in the name of the Queen. All of that comes out of a constitutional order, more than a century-and-a-half old, based on the British model.

But though Canada borrowed from Britain, it isn’t Britain and never was. And this country long ago took steps to make that unmistakably clear.

‘Meghan and Harry: If you are reading these comments, please take them to heart and stay in Britain!’ Readers debate: Can the royal couple live in Canada?

Canada never had a class system with hereditary aristocrats like Britain, and Canada definitively broke with the idea of aristocracy when the Nickle Resolution of 1919 asked the British government to stop conferring titles on Canadians. What’s more, with the Statute of Westminster of 1931, Canada’s relationship to Britain was spelled out as one of equal, independent nations.

However, Canada kept the monarchy, and a head of state we share with various Commonwealth countries. The head of state’s representatives here are the governor-general and the provincial lieutenant-governors, who perform essential duties from opening parliaments to deciding who gets to form a government in minority situations. They’re as close as Canada comes to having resident royalty, but they’re not royalty. Instead, they’re merely temporary avatars for a virtual monarch who remains permanently ensconced across the sea.

Furthermore, since the 1950s, governors-general have always been Canadians. Princes are not shipped over here when no useful duties can be found for them on the other side of the Atlantic.

The Sussexes are working out their own personal issues, and Canadians wish them the best of luck. Canada welcomes people of all faiths, nationalities and races, but if you’re a senior member of our Royal Family, this country cannot become your home.

The government should make that clear. There can be no Earl Sussex of Rosedale and no Prince Harry of Point Grey. Canada is not a halfway house for anyone looking to get out of Britain while remaining a royal.
Great. So to LA it is.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
I hadn't realized it until the last couple of days but the tax issue for Markle and Harry has been reported on pretty extensively ever since their marriage.






HA!

Good!

I cannot stand these two snowflakes!
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
HA!

Good!

I cannot stand these two snowflakes!
Unfortunately, it isn't so "good" with the rest of us who also have to live with the IRS tax "nightmare."

It used to be that most over-seas US citizens didn't have that much to worry about because of we don't pay direct US taxes on income until it hits a fairly high level.

But then they changed the rules and started demanding all sorts of paperwork to be filed, even for people who didn't owe taxes; and then fining people and refusing to renew passports for unpaid fines on the paperwork they didn't even know about.

I had friends moving back to the US (he was a Brit) and the IRS tried to claim (and I'm not kidding) 100,000 dollars in fines and on her husband's income before they could move, they got a lawyer and it was settled for less.

So many people living in first world countries (and usually married to locals) were giving up their citizenship over this nonsense that the IRS got congress to pass laws not only charging a good chunk of change to do it - but in addition, the US simply REFUSES to ACCEPT a renunciation of citizenship until the IRS IS SATISFIED.

That is what happened to Boris Johnson and again I think the IRS only settled because he kept saying publically "I am trying to renounce my US citizenship and devote myself totally to the UK, but the US won't let me."

I think the US was very close to passing a law saying effectively that the US could say someone was a citizen all they liked but that the UK would not honor, nor any extraditions based on it, if the person put in writing they had renounced their US Citizenship.

That didn't happen, but it came close.

Again sorry for the rant, and yeah there is some karma in all this for Harry but it isn't any different from that experienced by the European spouses of other Americans who have a decent income or a good job/property.

The US is just about the ONLY country on Earth that does this, especially the "going after" the income of non-citizen spouses, many of whom simply refuse to cooperate leaving their American wife or husband in limbo (and you wonder why so many of us get a second passport?).
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Yah, well...the abuse and law changes probably stemmed from people and businesses/corps coming to the U.S. using our assets, economic system, patent laws, labor market, educational system, etc etc. to make their fortune or even just make a decent living, and then skipping out on income taxes by claiming residency or headquarters elsewhere. Britain had some pretty draconian tax laws back 30-40 years ago, too.

I don't know who is advising this pair, but I hope they are planning and WANT to fade into the wallpaper in L.A. 'cuz I think that's' where they are headed. And they will end up as relatively small fish in a big sea in L.A.
 

mzkitty

I give up.

Remember a predecessor of generations gone by? Duchess of Windsor? Who married the almost king? Also had been married and divorced. Also foreign.

Also American. She was not happy afterward. She was tough. I met her. I interviewed her. She was constantly looking to negotiate some sort of financial betterment.

Hey, sic transit, Meghan.

Hey, he WAS King. He abdicated, which is how Liz got the job.

You're welcome.


:)
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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On my phone at the moment but if you look there are several news sources now running articles on Markles’ UK citizenship application now in question.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
Just a quick note and then I will stop the thread "drift" though it does apply to this situation to a degree.

The IRS CLAIMED the law changes were needed to go after very wealthy Americans who abused the laws to dump their citizenship and continue to enjoy the benefits of living in the US, often with a US spouse (one guy actually tried to become the ambassador from Bermuda).

The IRS agent ADMITTED to my friends during the demands for 100,000 debacles that in reality, they were mostly going after average and normal people of moderate means.

That's because the very wealthy have ways of paying off and "dealing" with the situation, often buying a second passport and then making the IRS/US an "offer" to settle usually through expensive attorneys, etc and most often the IRS agents accept.

They do this for the same reason they have admitted auditing regular people (especially with small businesses) in the US rather than the very wealthy who can fight back and tie up things in courts for years.

The result has been the IRS going after tons of "regular" folks most of whom are married to EU (or other foreign nationals) when their spouse gets a pay raise or a parent dies.

Again, while it won't protect Americans who want to visit home (and that's when the "get" people, usually during family emergencies) I expect that sooner or later the Brits and probably the EU is going to say enough is enough and simply declare that if a person gives up their US Citizenship in writing by local law they are no-longer considered US Citizens for tax purposes.

Then the "former" American who is now German, French, British whatever would face prosecution at home, but their adopted country will no longer play extradition or legal games with the IRS over it.

Anyway, Meghan already had a permit to live in Canada, so she should have been aware of some of this as a high earning individual.

Though she and Harry may not have realized that HIS income would now bet taxed, and by removing themselves as senior royals, the palace isn't going to tell the IRS to go stuff themselves if they get to invasive about things, especially properties that the Crown holds and can involve national security issues.

They wanted to be on their own, now they are on their own.
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen

Meghan Markle's UK citizenship application potentially in jeopardy if royal couple moves to Canada: reports

Published 8 hours ago

Meghan Markle’s application for British citizenship could reportedly be in jeopardy if she and Prince Harry move to Canada as part of their plan to step down as senior royals.

The Duchess of Sussex started the process for citizenship shortly after her marriage to Prince Harry in May 2018, applying as the spouse of a British citizen.

Under Home Office rules, applicants are required not to have spent more than 270 days out of the country in the three years before applying, The Telegraph reported. During their engagement, Prince Harry’s spokesperson promised the duchess would be in compliance with U.K. immigration laws “at all times.”

“She may quickly run into trouble when calculating her permissible absences from the U.K.,” immigration website Free Movement reported.

Immigration lawyer Philip Trott told The Times of London, “There is no harm in being out, as long as you spend most of your time here...The advice we normally give to clients is that most of your time means six months and one day every year."
If Prince Harry managed to obtain an official role while in Canada, their time in the country might qualify for the Crown servant exception to residency, which would still count legally as living in the U.K., according to Free Movement.

In the unlikely event she couldn't obtain citizenship, she might still be allowed to remain in the U.K. indefinitely "at the discretion of the Home Secretary,” Free Movement reported. “There are ultimately no legal constraints on granting any form of immigration status.”

The duchess' spokesperson said, “There is no change in the fact that she is pursuing the path to British citizenship," according to The Times of London.
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
I don't think she really cares about becoming a UK citizen. It's obvious she wants to end up back in the USA permanently.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
I don't think she really cares about becoming a UK citizen. It's obvious she wants to end up back in the USA permanently.
But, as people have been saying, she wants to duck U.S. income tax by becoming a Brit. Basically, her cake and eat it, too.
Time will tell how this mess ends up.
 
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