WTF?!? Harvard releases radical proposal to fix America's democracy that divides Washington D.C. into 127 new states

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beDplorable

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Harvard releases radical proposal to fix America's democracy

A radical proposal suggests Congress declare the 127 neighborhoods in Washington DC as new states in a bid to rewrite the Constitutions so every American vote counts.
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Harvard releases radical proposal to fix America's democracy that divides Washington D.C. into 127 new states, adding enough votes in Congress to rewrite the constitution and eliminate the Electoral College
  • The Proposal wants to make Washington DC's 127 neighborhoods as new states
  • This would add enough votes for Congress to rewrite the Constitution
  • The report calls for equal representation in both the Senate and the House
  • It also suggests replacing the Electoral College with a popular vote
  • The proposals wants future amendments ratified by states with most Americans
By STACY LIBERATORE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 14:21 EST, 16 January 2020 | UPDATED: 17:45 EST, 16 January 2020

Harvard has released a radical proposal to fix America's broken democracy.

Researchers suggest Congress needs to pass legislation reducing the size of Washington, D.C. to just a few core federal buildings and declaring its 127 neighborhoods as states.

These new states would add enough votes for Congress to rewrite the Constitution in a way that 'every vote counts equally' by ratifying four amendments.

The plan entails equal representation in both the Senate and the House, replacing the Electoral College with a popular vote and modifying 'the Constitution's amendment process that would ensure future amendments are ratified by states representing most Americans.'

The authors of the proposal suggest dividing D.C. in to states because it is the only area in the US that can do it legally and every subdivision ‘voted overwhelmingly for the Democratic party in the 2016 election.

And, according to the anonymous writers, 'the Democratic caucus in Congress could be confident that new states created within the District would elect like-minded delegations to Congress.’

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Harvard has released a wild proposal to fix America's broken democracy. Researchers suggest Congress pass legislation reducing the size of Washington, D.C. to just a few core federal buildings and declaring its 127 neighborhoods as states. Pictured are the neighborhoods in DC that the report suggests should be admitted as states


Harvard has released a wild proposal to fix America's broken democracy. Researchers suggest Congress pass legislation reducing the size of Washington, D.C. to just a few core federal buildings and declaring its 127 neighborhoods as states. Pictured are the neighborhoods in DC that the report suggests should be admitted as states
'Radical as this proposal may sound, it is no more radical than a nominally democratic system of government that gives citizens widely disproportionate voting power depending on where they live,' according to the unsigned note, entitled 'Pack the Union: A Proposal to Admit New States for the Purpose of Amending the Constitution to Ensure Equal Representation'.

'The people should not tolerate a system that is manifestly unfair; they should instead fight fire with fire, and use the unfair provisions of the Constitution to create a better system.'
 
Dobbin

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
The ultimate Gerrymandering.

I think they should do it - meanwhile the rest of us will return the nation's capitol to New York City.

Wait - maybe ask for a trade and let them have NYC.

Dobbin
 
Jeff B.

Jeff B.

Don’t let the Piss Ants get you down…
"Cry 'Havoc!,' and let slip the dogs of war."

And that's what would happen if any such foolishness were attempted...

I think it's quite amusing when these eggheads forget that the other people have a say in things as well.

Jeff B.
 
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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Upon reflection, it does. They gotta start FILING them things so they don't get out into real air. They're like Aethr in real air.

(Yeah Haven is taking over my minibrain)
 
Ractivist

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
And to think, he likely wrote this on Harvards dime, on the clock, giggling all the way.............he should be fired. He'll likely get a raise.
 
Paladin1

Paladin1

"In Omnia Paratus" is more than just a phrase
bw said:
We don't have a broken democracy. We have ignorant citizens.
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Not ignorant citizens, corrupt citizens.

We were warned that our form of government was only suitable for a religious and moral people and was unsuitable for the government of any other kind.

This is what happens when the people become corrupt. The legislature reflects the moral character of the citizens.
 
Groucho

Groucho

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You can fertilize half the corn fields in Iowa with that idea.

No offense to Dobbin.
 
Reasonable Rascal

Reasonable Rascal

Veteran Member
Don't trivial little matters like state budgets and how to fund them, and state constitutions get in the way. Never mind that you could not possibly organize half that number into actual functioning states - even at a minimalist level - in time for even the 2024 elections.

RR
 
AlfaMan

AlfaMan

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DC govt. is split into wards, much like New Orleans. And now someone wants to make EACH neighborhood a state? Hahaha put down the bong Harvard. Extending federal monies to each of these neighborhoods as a state would utterly bankrupt the country, not to mention the corruption in congress multiplied 127 times.
Slip these researchers a nice BIG dose of fentanyl, please.

beDplorable said:
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Harvard releases radical proposal to fix America's democracy

A radical proposal suggests Congress declare the 127 neighborhoods in Washington DC as new states in a bid to rewrite the Constitutions so every American vote counts.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk

Harvard releases radical proposal to fix America's democracy that divides Washington D.C. into 127 new states, adding enough votes in Congress to rewrite the constitution and eliminate the Electoral College
  • The Proposal wants to make Washington DC's 127 neighborhoods as new states
  • This would add enough votes for Congress to rewrite the Constitution
  • The report calls for equal representation in both the Senate and the House
  • It also suggests replacing the Electoral College with a popular vote
  • The proposals wants future amendments ratified by states with most Americans
By STACY LIBERATORE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 14:21 EST, 16 January 2020 | UPDATED: 17:45 EST, 16 January 2020

Harvard has released a radical proposal to fix America's broken democracy.

Researchers suggest Congress needs to pass legislation reducing the size of Washington, D.C. to just a few core federal buildings and declaring its 127 neighborhoods as states.

These new states would add enough votes for Congress to rewrite the Constitution in a way that 'every vote counts equally' by ratifying four amendments.

The plan entails equal representation in both the Senate and the House, replacing the Electoral College with a popular vote and modifying 'the Constitution's amendment process that would ensure future amendments are ratified by states representing most Americans.'

The authors of the proposal suggest dividing D.C. in to states because it is the only area in the US that can do it legally and every subdivision ‘voted overwhelmingly for the Democratic party in the 2016 election.

And, according to the anonymous writers, 'the Democratic caucus in Congress could be confident that new states created within the District would elect like-minded delegations to Congress.’

Scroll down for video

Harvard has released a wild proposal to fix America's broken democracy. Researchers suggest Congress pass legislation reducing the size of Washington, D.C. to just a few core federal buildings and declaring its 127 neighborhoods as states. Pictured are the neighborhoods in DC that the report suggests should be admitted as states's broken democracy. Researchers suggest Congress pass legislation reducing the size of Washington, D.C. to just a few core federal buildings and declaring its 127 neighborhoods as states. Pictured are the neighborhoods in DC that the report suggests should be admitted as states


Harvard has released a wild proposal to fix America's broken democracy. Researchers suggest Congress pass legislation reducing the size of Washington, D.C. to just a few core federal buildings and declaring its 127 neighborhoods as states. Pictured are the neighborhoods in DC that the report suggests should be admitted as states
'Radical as this proposal may sound, it is no more radical than a nominally democratic system of government that gives citizens widely disproportionate voting power depending on where they live,' according to the unsigned note, entitled 'Pack the Union: A Proposal to Admit New States for the Purpose of Amending the Constitution to Ensure Equal Representation'.

'The people should not tolerate a system that is manifestly unfair; they should instead fight fire with fire, and use the unfair provisions of the Constitution to create a better system.'
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raven

TB Fanatic
on the other hand, if you consider this a thought experiment, you might recall that every census districts for the House of representatives are redrawn . . . based on population . . . so that each district represents the same representative number of people.
You follow that, right?
So what about Rhode Island?It is the smallest state - 1500 sq miles. The average state is about 60,000 sq miles. And population is equally small at about 1 million. Why is this even a state?
Still with me?
Rhode Island, Delaware, Connecticut, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Vermont and Massachusetts each of which have 2 senators. Bunch of small states over represented in the Senate. Just merge all of em.
And you can get rid of Alaska as well and govern it as a territory because there are fewer people in all of Alaska than there are in Omaha. Hawaii too.
That gives you 16 Senate seats (8 empty states) that could be used to create 8 new states. Two new states in California, Two new states in Texas, Two new states in New York, Two new states in Florida.
 
Dobbin

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
House of representative appointment is by proportion of population - the districts are drawn by each state leglislature - subject to the usual political gerrymandering in each state government.

Thus North Dakota gets only one representative in the house while California gets 53. Each is proportionate to the number of people in the state versus the country as a whole.

United States House of Representatives Seats by State.

Thus a California voter gets approximately equal representation (and "say") in the House as a North Dakota voter. And - conveniently - the House deals largely with issues of interest to voters.

The Senate is far more "biased" against populous states. Each state gets but two. Thus a California Senator represents 9,989,224 people while North Dakota Senator represents 285,497 people. But the Senate makes "all states equal" regarding representation. And - the Senate tends to handle business "between states."

Now time and procedure have modified the interests and focus of each of the two branches - but by in large, it takes BOTH to pass a law, and then fund it, so the inequities are overlooked.

This is all part of the "Great Compromise" which was effected to allow ratification of the US Congressional Charter and the Constitution.

U.S. Senate: A Great Compromise

Dobbin
 
beDplorable

beDplorable

Senior Member
raven said:
That gives you 16 Senate seats (8 empty states) that could be used to create 8 new states. Two new states in California, Two new states in Texas, Two new states in New York, Two new states in Florida.
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I am sure northern Cali and NY State outside NYC would back this plan.
 
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