EBOLA MAIN EBOLA DISCUSSION THREAD October 2015

BREWER

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MAIN EBOLA DISCUSSION THREAD October 2015


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Greetings, Everyone: Due to the intermittent reports on Ebola which are surfacing on a delayed basis Dennis recommended this should be a monthly thread.

If you post a stand alone thread on Main please double post it here so there is an archive that we can all research to find specific articles. Thank you. BREWER
 

JohnGaltfla

#NeverTrump
As requested...

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...-nurse-Pauline-Cafferkey-in-serious-condition

Ebola nurse Pauline Cafferkey 'in serious condition'

BBC NEWS
OCTOBER 9, 2015 12:30 PM ET

A Scottish nurse who contracted Ebola in Sierra Leone last year is in a "serious condition" after being readmitted to an isolation unit in London.


NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde confirmed that the virus is still present in Pauline Cafferkey's body after being left over from the original infection.


She is not thought to be contagious.


The 39-year-old has been flown back to the isolation unit at the Royal Free Hospital in London.


Bodily tissues can harbour the Ebola infection months after the person appears to have fully recovered.


Ms Cafferkey, from Cambuslang in South Lanarkshire, spent almost a month in the unit at the beginning of the year after contracting the virus in December 2014.

NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde (NHSGGC) said she had been admitted to the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital in Glasgow on Tuesday after feeling unwell and was treated in its infectious diseases unit.
She was then transferred to the Royal Free Hospital in the early hours of Friday morning due to an "unusual late complication" in her illness.


Dr Emilia Crighton, NHSGGC director of public health, said: "Pauline's condition is a complication of a previous infection with the Ebola virus.


"The risk to the public is very low. In line with normal procedures in cases such as this, we have identified a small number of close contacts of Pauline's that we will be following up as a precaution."


Government sources have described her transfer to the specialist unit as a "highly precautionary process".

He said the effects of the virus on the body could last for up to two years, although it was difficult to know how long it could actually persist.
He added: "The nice news here is that she's beaten the virus once so she can probably beat it again.


"The odds are that she has actually inherited a lucky set of genes and these are probably what protected her the first time and probably what will keep her safe the second time regardless of any treatment. The outlook's good."


Ebola is passed on through bodily fluids. It is not transmitted through casual contact.

Last week Ms Cafferkey, who works at the Blantyre Health Centre, was in London receiving an award at the Pride of Britain ceremony which recognised the risks aid workers took with their own health.


There are not thought to be any concerns about contact she had with people at the event but health officials in Scotland are focusing on who she had seen since her return home.


Ms Cafferkey contracted Ebola while working as a volunteer with Save the Children at a treatment centre in Kerry Town, in Sierra Leone.


She was diagnosed on 29 December last year, after returning to Glasgow via London.
Image copyright Getty Images Image caption Ms Cafferkey contracted Ebola while working as a volunteer in Sierra Leone last year Her temperature had been tested seven times before she flew from Heathrow to Glasgow and she was cleared to travel, before later falling ill.


She was placed in an isolation unit at Glasgow's Gartnavel Hospital after becoming feverish, before being transferred by an RAF Hercules plane to London on 30 December.


She was then transferred to the specialist isolation unit at the Royal Free.
After a few days Ms Cafferkey's condition began to deteriorate, with the hospital announcing she had become critically ill on 4 January.


After leaving hospital later the same month, Ms Cafferkey said she was "very happy to be alive" and was looking forward to returning to "normal life".



An investigation by Save the Children later concluded that the nurse had probably caught Ebola by wearing a visor instead of goggles while treating patients.


Ebola virus disease (EVD)

Image copyright SPL

Symptoms include high fever, bleeding and central nervous system damage
Spread by body fluids, such as blood and saliva
Fatality rate can reach 90% - but current outbreak has mortality rate of about 55%
Incubation period is two to 21 days
There is no proven vaccine or cure
Supportive care such as rehydrating patients who have diarrhoea and vomiting can help recovery
Fruit bats, a delicacy for some West Africans, are considered to be virus's natural host

At the time, Dr Michael Jacobs, from the Royal Free's infectious diseases team, said Ms Cafferkey had completely recovered and was "not infectious in any way".


NHS Lanarkshire said she had begun a phased return to work in mid-March, and had last been at work on 1 October.


Consultant in Public Health David Cromie said: "Pauline was well while at work and there is no wider public health risk for patients treated by her or her staff colleagues.


"In line with normal procedures in cases such as this, a small number of close contacts of Pauline have been identified and will be followed up as a precaution.


"Together with Pauline's colleagues, our thoughts are with Pauline and we wish her a full speedy recovery."
 

JohnGaltfla

#NeverTrump
Thanks, John: I got a little behind this month. Take care. BREWER

I would never have caught that if it wasn't a flag on my Twitter feed. I've been too busy to post or write about the news lately.

Thank you for these threads. ;)
 

BREWER

Veteran Member
Posted for fair use and discussion.
http://www.naturalnews.com/051574_Ebola_nurse_Pauline_Cafferkey_toxic_pharmaceuticals.html

Second Ebola nurse now crashing into critical condition after CDC-controlled media falsely proclaimed her 'cured' by toxic pharmaceuticals
Thursday, October 15, 2015
by Mike Adams

(NaturalNews) Remember the Ebola outbreak of 2014 when nurses infected with Ebola were proclaimed "cured" through the intervention of pharmaceutical medicine? Like everything else the MSM broadcast about Ebola, we now know it was all a sinister fabrication.

Texas nurse Nina Pham was widely celebrated as a hero by the mainstream media for her role in treating an infected Ebola patient that started an outbreak in a Dallas hospital. What the media didn't tell you is that Nina Pham was nearly killed by the Ebola "treatment" medicines administered by the hospital. "Nina Pham, the first known case of an individual contracting Ebola within the U.S., is now suing the parent corporation of her former employer, which she says violated her personal privacy and left her chronically ill by exploiting and neglecting her during the outbreak," Natural News reported earlier this year.

"The 26-year-old nurse says she now suffers from constant nightmares, body aches and insomnia due to the experimental medications that were forced upon her while in isolation."

Pharmaceutical interventions, in other words, caused serious organ damage to nurse Pham, and that damage is permanent. Naturally, the CDC-controlled media exploited Pham for P.R. purposes, but once the news had passed, they left her permanently damaged and abandoned by the system.

A second nurse is also in serious health trouble due to toxic Ebola treatments
Now reported in The Independent (UK): "A British nurse who was apparently cured of Ebola earlier this year is now in a critical condition, doctors have said, with experts expressing astonishment at the deterioration of her condition."

Pauline Cafferkey was admitted to the specialist treatment isolation unit at Royal Free Hospital in London on 9 October. She had been treated for Ebola at the same hospital earlier this year, and was discharged in good health in January.

None of us here at Natural News are surprised, of course. We've long known that everything the medical establishment says about Ebola is a deliberate lie, and that includes pharmaceutical Ebola "treatment" promises.

"The exact nature of Ms Cafferkey’s illness is not known, but experts have expressed shock at the severity of her condition," reports The Independent.

Here's what's really going on: In exactly the same way that AIDS drugs destroy the human immune system and cause symptoms of AIDS, Ebola drugs also destroy the patient's body and cause critical organ failure.

This fundamental truth about the toxicity of Big Pharma's deadly drugs will never be admitted in the pharma-controlled press.

Same system that pushes toxic pharmaceutical treatments viciously attacks colloidal silver.

As you ponder all this, keep in mind that all holistic treatments for Ebola were viciously and aggressively attacked by governments and the media during the Ebola outbreak. Those who offered colloidal silver treatments or products were threatened by U.S. regulators and mocked by the media... even though colloidal silver is a non-toxic treatment that cannot cause the kind of organ failure we're witnessing from pharmaceutical interventions.

Non-profits such as Dr. Rima Laibow's Natural Solutions Foundation were even viciously threatened by the IRS after Dr. Laibow began talking about colloidal silver as a non-toxic treatment option. (No doubt the CDC pressured the IRS to target the NSF in the same way the IRS targets liberty-oriented non-profits.)

"The IRS sent us a warning letter saying that by sharing US Department of Defense Threat Reduction Agency declassified research on the impact of our particular Nano Silver 10 PPM on the ability of the Ebola virus to cause disease we had miraculously turned the substance into a drug," Dr. Laibow told Natural News. "We responded to them in detail (26 pages, if I recall properly) and they sent back another letter backing off a bit but demanding changes in our site."

Meanwhile, companies that sold high-grade medicinal essential oils such as do Terra were threatened by government regulators with being put out of business if they didn't police their independent distributors who were sharing the true news that many essential oils can kill Ebola.

The medical system, government and media essentially invoked an all-out WAR on natural medicine while claiming their own pharmaceuticals were the only safe treatments for Ebola. Now we see just what a farce those claims really were. Much like chemotherapy, the "treatment" for Ebola may be just as deadly as Ebola itself.

Meanwhile, all the truly SAFE treatments like colloidal silver have been intentionally disparaged, marginalized and pushed to the fringes of alternative medicine. It's no coincidence that colloidal silver can't be patented and is universally available for mere pennies, thereby threatening the more important aspect of Big Pharma's disease pandemic schemes: PROFITS!

Here at Natural News, our prayers go out to Pauline Cafferkey with the hope that she won't end up as yet another needless victim of Big Pharma's toxic treatments and the mainstream media's outrageous lies that misled medical staff into falsely believing that pharmaceutical treatments for Ebola are safe.

Sources for this article include:
http://www.naturalnews.com/048845_Ebola_nurs...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-ne...
http://www.naturalnews.com/051273_Donald_Tru...
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Oh, good GRIEF!! (sorry Brewer, not aimed at you, but the post above is classic Natural News at their worst)

I suppose these people should have all used colloidal silver (NOT proven effective against viruses... and I've done enough experimenting with it to be able to say that with a fair degree of confidence. It's an amazing antibacterial... but even in viral infections where it's possible to apply the silver directly onto the infected site, it just doesn't work) and DIED.

That's for sure one way to prevent any nasty, residual symptoms- which, BTW, are *extremely common* when someone has survived a dangerous illness.

Summerthyme
 

BREWER

Veteran Member
Oh, good GRIEF!! (sorry Brewer, not aimed at you, but the post above is classic Natural News at their worst)

I suppose these people should have all used colloidal silver (NOT proven effective against viruses... and I've done enough experimenting with it to be able to say that with a fair degree of confidence. It's an amazing antibacterial... but even in viral infections where it's possible to apply the silver directly onto the infected site, it just doesn't work) and DIED.

That's for sure one way to prevent any nasty, residual symptoms- which, BTW, are *extremely common* when someone has survived a dangerous illness.

Summerthyme

Greetings, Summerthyme: Thanks for your input. I couldn't remember whether CS was effective or not against virii. IIRC,there were TB2K members saying that it was effective against virii. In any event thanks for dispelling that assertion in the article. Take care. BREWER
 

Lilbitsnana

On TB every waking moment
MAIN EBOLA DISCUSSION THREAD October 2015


MAIN EBOLA DISCUSSION THREAD September 2015
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Greetings, Everyone: Due to the intermittent reports on Ebola which are surfacing on a delayed basis Dennis recommended this should be a monthly thread.

If you post a stand alone thread on Main please double post it here so there is an archive that we can all research to find specific articles. Thank you. BREWER

Didn't see this thread until now, but I started an October thread on the 8th because there wasn't one and I had an Ebola post to make.

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...iscussion-thread-October-2015&highlight=Ebola
 

moldy

Veteran Member
Not news, just a comment. So, as a nurse, I wonder: If I am exposed, contract, and survive Ebola - will I ever be able to work as a nurse again? If I remain sero-positive, would I put patients at risk? I know there are possibly HIV positive nurses out there, but Ebola is spread seemingly so much easier.
 

BREWER

Veteran Member
Not news, just a comment. So, as a nurse, I wonder: If I am exposed, contract, and survive Ebola - will I ever be able to work as a nurse again? If I remain sero-positive, would I put patients at risk? I know there are possibly HIV positive nurses out there, but Ebola is spread seemingly so much easier.


Greetings, moldy: That's a hard one to call. Insurance and healthcare seem to be at odds with each other under the ObamaCare fiasco. You will and should make
a personal choice as so many in the healthcare profession did back when Ebola was flaring up, and we could get timely information before the black-out. Take every precaution you can. If you are only given minimum personal protective gear VS Bio Level 4 protective gear your chances of contracting Ebola are greatly increased. Let your conscience be your guide.
Take care. BREWER
 

Lilbitsnana

On TB every waking moment
Greetings, Lilbitsnana: No problem. You can double post here if you can please. Take care. BREWER

I'll just leave the link. It was about the Ebola case in Nigeria and there are several other posts made by people.


Lilbitsnana 10-08-2015 02:08 PM #1 said:
Main EBOLA discussion thread October 2015

Gregor Peter Retweeted
BNO News ‏@BNONews 9m9 minutes ago

BREAKING: 10 people quarantined in Nigeria's southern city of Calabar after suspected Ebola death - NEMA


mods, didn't find a thread already started for October, please merge if there is one

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...iscussion-thread-October-2015&highlight=Ebola
 

Krayola

Veteran Member
Not news, just a comment. So, as a nurse, I wonder: If I am exposed, contract, and survive Ebola - will I ever be able to work as a nurse again? If I remain sero-positive, would I put patients at risk? I know there are possibly HIV positive nurses out there, but Ebola is spread seemingly so much easier.

Moldy, I am not a medical professional but I thought about this too. I know that there were several American doctors who contracted ebola (Dr. Brantly comes to mind) and now I am wondering about their ability to practice medicine. How are patients going to feel seeing a doctor who at any time could relapse with ebola? What about their spouses and children? Would their spouses ever be truly safe having intimate relations with them? This is really bad news.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
For links see article source.....
Posted for fair use.....
http://www.wired.com/2015/10/ebola-is-coming-backbut-it-never-really-went-away/

Author: Chelsea Leu
Science
Date of Publication: 10.16.15.
10.16.15

Time of Publication: 7:58 pm.
7:58 pm

Ebola Is Coming Back—But It Never Really Went Away

Once a major outbreak dies down, getting rid of a disease entirely is a game of whack-a-mole—and in Ebola’s case, the mole is a deadly, gruesome virus scientists are just beginning to understand. Last Friday, London’s Royal Free Hospital announced that it was treating Pauline Cafferkey, a Scottish nurse who had served in Sierra Leone during this year’s West African outbreak, for what they termed “an unusual late complication” of Ebola. Somehow, the Ebola virus was once again raging through her system, nine months after her initial infection and recovery.

The case is dismaying, but it’s no freak occurrence. Even though the worst of the Ebola outbreak is over, the virus keeps reappearing—in survivors, new patients, and the press. In the past 24 hours, Ebola has struck two people in Guinea, and a paper out this week in the New England Journal of Medicine announced that Ebola patients still housed traces of the virus’s RNA up to nine months after they first showed symptoms. And even if they’re not wracked by the disease anymore, Ebola survivors suffer a whole range of maladies that come from the lingering virus: back pain, hearing loss, meningitis, seizures. (Though, thankfully, the survivors probably aren’t infectious.)

The WHO counts 42 days without new cases as the cut-off for a region to be Ebola-free (Guinea was weeks away), but they may need to rethink that length of time, or the very idea that a region can be Ebola-free, says Dan Kelly, an Ebola researcher at UC San Francisco. To stretch the mole analogy, the squiggly virus collects in certain hidey-holes the immune system doesn’t patrol as well—eyes, brains, testes, and even semen—where it can then lurk for months before replicating and causing problems for its host. (In another study this week in NEJM, scientists found that Ebola can be transmitted through sex, which presents a whole ‘nother set of risks.) Scientists still don’t know how long Ebola stays infectious in the body.

So, even if you fight off the infection once, Ebola can still live and grow inside of you. That’s scary, Kelly says. “The immune system didn’t do a great job of curing itself—how do we know giving Pauline Cafferkey supportive care will cure her of Ebola? We don’t.” (Supportive care, as opposed to, say, therapeutics or steroids to give the body a boost.) Of course, this relapse has a dark silver lining: When people used to get Ebola, they’d die. Now, with high-profile survivors like Cafferkey and other health workers, scientists have a better view of the disease’s long tail—which, in the end, might lead to cures.
 

momengineer

Senior Member
This is what I don't get about the scottish nurse case- in the past, once you survived Ebola you were "immune" like chicken pox, etc. so...has there been a significant mutation??????!!!! To me, that is a huge game changer
 

BREWER

Veteran Member
Posted for fair use and discussion.
http://www.naturalnews.com/051707_Ebola_Africa_pandemic_relapse.html

Ebola surges back even after 'recovery' ... mystery deaths in Africa believed to be Ebola's third wave
Monday, October 26, 2015 by: L.J. Devon


(NaturalNews) Over the past year and half, a surging outbreak of Ebola virus has put entire countries in West Africa under duress, putting villagers' immune systems to the test of their life. Approximately 11,300 people in Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea have passed away, and at least 17,000 others have survived. After enduring two waves of vicious Ebola outbreak, these countries are now only seeing a few cases crop up in Guinea. However, researchers are discovering what might be the beginnings of a third Ebola wave.

Reports on the ground indicate that survivors are having a hard time settling back into their communities. Facing fear and paranoia from other residents, survivors are doing everything they can to prove they are healthy and not carrying around remnants of the Ebola virus.

Their full recovery is not convincing enough because a percentage of survivors are now starting to relapse. Researchers at Sierra Leone's National Ebola Response Center are scrambling to understand a new wave of rogue Ebola cases, which are being called "anomalies."

Ebola survivors beginning to relapse, as mystery deaths start to surface
These "anomaly" cases are estimated to affect 10 percent of survivors. Dr. Dan Kelly, founder of the non-profit Wellbody Alliance, has worked with such cases where the patient's immune system underwent a second attack, even after being released and declared 100 percent healthy.

These unexpected relapses are causing "mystery deaths" to crop up in West Africa, leaving medical researchers baffled. Even after a patient is symptom-free and their body has overcome the viral attack, remnants of the virus could still be hiding inside inaccessible spots in the body such as the eyeball, the brain, or the spinal fluid. It's hard to detect whether the virus is still lurking in a patient's body, even after they have recovered.

Dr. Dan Kelly said that two of the 20 cases treated in the US and Europe were like this. One patient, Pauline Cafferkey, harbored Ebola virus in her brain even after recovering. Dr. Kelly said that many of these type of cases are not being detected in West Africa.

"One case reminds me of Pauline but we were unable to find a laboratory willing to test the patient before the patient died," he said. "In West Africa it (relapsing Ebola) is mostly undiagnosed, hardly treated and people are certainly dying of it."

For example, two initial Ebola survivors returned to Freetown's 34 Military Hospital just weeks later with respiratory problems. Neither one survived.

Fears rising that survivors are spreading the disease again sexually
Right now, a mass effort is underway in Sierra Leone and Liberia to introduce survivor screening programs to confirm they are not still harboring the virus. Sierra Leone's "Operation Shield" tests survivor's semen, which can harbor the virus for up to nine months.

Adam Kucharski, infectious disease expert at the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, says, "The Ebola response has already had to adapt to the extraordinary nature of this outbreak. The possibility of transmission long after apparent recovery poses yet another challenge."

Fears that survivors are still spreading the virus via sexual transmission are increasing, especially when new cases crop up. When survivors return to their communities, many are shunned. Witnesses report that survivors may be treated "like a pariah, leper and an outcast" when they return home. Some survivors receive counseling from Christian organizations to help them deal with the stigmatization.

As the fear persists, medical researchers in the area are beginning to wonder whether or not the 17,000 survivors are going to relapse, unleashing a third wave of Ebola across West Africa.

Sources for this article include:

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Ebola Survivors Can Spread Disease Through Sex For Longer Than Previously Thought
AP | By MIKE STOBBE
Posted: 05/05/2015 02:04 AEST Updated: 05/05/2015 02:59 AEST EBOLA

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NEW YORK (AP) — Health officials now think Ebola survivors can spread the disease through unprotected sex nearly twice as long as previously believed.

Scientists thought the Ebola virus could remain in semen for about three months. But a recent case in West Africa suggests infection through sex can happen more than five months later.

Based on the case, officials are now telling male Ebola survivors to avoid unprotected sex indefinitely. They had previously advised using condoms for at least three months.


A report released Friday detailed the case of a 44-year-old Liberian woman whose infection likely came from a 46-year-old man who had Ebola symptoms last September. She fell ill in March, a week after sex with him, and died. Another woman he had sex with around the same time tested negative.

The Ebola virus spreads through direct contact with an Ebola patient's blood or other bodily fluids like urine, saliva, semen and sweat. Once patients recover, health officials say they aren't contagious except there's a chance it could still be in semen.

Investigations of other recent Ebola cases in Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone have pointed to sexual transmission from survivors, but those have not been confirmed, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control.

There have been fewer than 10 such cases, said CDC spokeswoman Kristen Nordlund. It's been difficult to pinpoint that sex was the only way they may have been infected, she added.

In Guinea, Dr. Sakoba Keita, the national coordinator for Ebola response, said a woman in the southeastern town of Macenta contracted Ebola after having unprotected sex with her husband. For the past month, officials have recommended all survivors use condoms until more is known.

"We give a kit containing a condom," to all survivors leaving the treatment center, he said.

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AP reporter Boubacar Diallo in Conakry, Guinea contributed to this report.

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Online:

Report: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/04/ebola-transmission-sex_n_7205518.html?ir=Australia
 

Be Well

may all be well
I remember there are several sequelae (sp?) that Ebola can cause, one is blindness. Can't remember the others. But it definitely seems as though for many they never really get "over" it. I wonder if the number of dead in the OP is accurate, I sort of doubt it.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Ebola Survivors Can Spread Disease Through Sex For Longer Than Previously Thought
AP | By MIKE STOBBE
Posted: 05/05/2015 02:04 AEST Updated: 05/05/2015 02:59 AEST EBOLA

n-EBOLA-large570.jpg



NEW YORK (AP) — Health officials now think Ebola survivors can spread the disease through unprotected sex nearly twice as long as previously believed.

Scientists thought the Ebola virus could remain in semen for about three months. But a recent case in West Africa suggests infection through sex can happen more than five months later.

Based on the case, officials are now telling male Ebola survivors to avoid unprotected sex indefinitely. They had previously advised using condoms for at least three months.


Some here "may" remember it---but the EARLY reports that some of us more ...oh, what's the word?...Oh, I know, "hysterical" and "drama queen" types.....were reporting and emphasizing---those early medical reports that were QUICKLY SCRUBBED from the internet by the CDC (and we panick-ers were drawing attention to that "scrubbing")---

said EXACTLY this.
 
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