Mexico Complains Of Too Many Repatriated Mexicans

Martin

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Mexico Complains Of Too Many Repatriated Mexicans
Mon, 04/07/2008 - 15:28 — Judicial Watch Blog
The U.S. border state leading the battle against illegal immigration with unprecedented tough laws has received complaints from Mexico’s government that too many Mexicans have been repatriated and the country is overwhelmed with demands for housing, jobs and schools.

Fed up with the devastating effect of illegal immigration, Arizona has enacted the nation’s toughest laws to curb the problem and evidently its working. State legislators have passed laws barring illegal immigrants from receiving government services, posting bail for serious crimes and winning punitive damages in lawsuits. This year a new law makes it illegal for businesses to hire undocumented workers and those that do can be shut down.

The state legislator who sponsored the work bill, Representative Russell Pearce, says the law’s undeniably positive effects include smaller class sizes, shorter emergency room waits and an overall huge savings to taxpayers. The Republican congressman drafted the bill because studies revealed that illegal immigration cost Arizona taxpayers over $2 billion annually, not including the toll of crime and destruction.

It turns out that enough illegal immigrants have either fled the U.S. or been deported that officials in the Mexican state of Sonora, which shares an extensive border with Arizona, have complained that too many of their fellow countrymen have returned. They miss the remittances sent from the U.S. as well as smaller class sizes in local schools.

Mexican government officials knew Arizona’s tough employment verification law would become their worst nightmare, which explains why they tried blocking it. Earlier this year a delegation of nine legislators from Sonora toured Tucson and held a news conference to say that their beloved state cannot handle the demand for housing, jobs and schools resulting from illegal Mexican workers returning home.

One baffled Mexican legislator, Leticia Amparano Gamez, asked in Spanish “how can they pass a law like this?” She went on to explain that Mexico is not prepared for the “tremendous problems” it will face as more and more Mexicans working in Arizona and sending money to their families return to hometowns in Sonora without jobs. Another member of the Mexican delegation, Representative Florencio Diaz Armenta, asked “what do we do with the repatriated?”



http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/mexico-complains-too-many-repatriated-mexicans
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Cry me a freakin' river mey-hee-co. Maybe the US can ship 10 million+ homeless and poor Americans down to YOUR country. Pay-back can be a real bee-atch, eh?
 

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
Boo hoo! Quick give me a bandaid so I can swallow it and patch up my bleeding heart.

Best,
Joe
 

Emily

One Day Closer
Now if the rest of the country will get just as smart and actually protect the US citizens and their jobs and homes instead of the good ole boy paybacks to their corporate cronies for getting them elected - we may actually have some hope for a change.
 

Sooth

Veteran Member
Fed up with the devastating effect of illegal immigration, Arizona has enacted the nation’s toughest laws to curb the problem and evidently its working. State legislators have passed laws barring illegal immigrants from receiving government services, posting bail for serious crimes and winning punitive damages in lawsuits. This year a new law makes it illegal for businesses to hire undocumented workers and those that do can be shut down.
They have left out mention of the citizen referendums that were voted on and passed over the past many years in Arizona only to have them overturned by the courts or allowed to die by spineless state legislators. I and many others voted for every one of them and saw them all die. Happy that some finally got the message and passed laws that stuck.

Every state in the Union needs to pass similar laws because the Federal government will never pass laws to protect us.

Sooth
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
The Article said:
It turns out that enough illegal immigrants have either fled the U.S. or been deported that officials in the Mexican state of Sonora, which shares an extensive border with Arizona, have complained that too many of their fellow countrymen have returned. They miss the remittances sent from the U.S. as well as smaller class sizes in local schools.

Mexican government officials knew Arizona’s tough employment verification law would become their worst nightmare, which explains why they tried blocking it. Earlier this year a delegation of nine legislators from Sonora toured Tucson and held a news conference to say that their beloved state cannot handle the demand for housing, jobs and schools resulting from illegal Mexican workers returning home.

One baffled Mexican legislator, Leticia Amparano Gamez, asked in Spanish “how can they pass a law like this?” She went on to explain that Mexico is not prepared for the “tremendous problems” it will face as more and more Mexicans working in Arizona and sending money to their families return to hometowns in Sonora without jobs. Another member of the Mexican delegation, Representative Florencio Diaz Armenta, asked “what do we do with the repatriated?”

This dilemma would appear to be at odds with the oft-quoted sentiment of Mexicans, wherein it is said that "they love their chidren." Loving one's children is, to be certain, a fine trait indeed, but does that mean Mexico collectively only loves its children when the responsibility for them is foisted on another nation? :shr:
 

almost ready

Inactive
There's a real problem here

About a quarter of the people in that country (estimated at 28 million folks) lived on small subsistance farms, usually about 5 acres. They were just scraping by. But after NAFTA went into effect, they were unable to make a living. Some 9 million of those folks came to the US, and the money they sent home was their only cushion.

Now this is drying up, and many folks are going back there. Most of their foreign exchange is from PEMEX oil, and that is drying up, too. If the price of oil doesn't go to 120+ and hold it, they'll have a true catastrophe this year. The gov. skims off about 45% of their profits, which is how they pay for gov. services.

From what I've read the problem is simple. Those folks don't have a real subsistance homestead situation. Instead, they were simply planting corn (mostly). After NAFTA the price of corn came down too low, and they couldn't compete with the US prices, so stopped growing. THis may become a self-correcting problem as the cost of grain goes up. On the other hand, any study of US farm literature will tell you, the inputs to grain have been going up faster than the price of the grain, and for more years. The US farmers have some structural help to keep them in the fields during these periods. The MExicans didn't. Very little help available and almost no information about it to the people who needed it.

What would save the situation is a true Permaculture/homestead education and enabling plan. Five acres, properly used, could keep those folks fed.

So they are faced with a late-Rome scene. Mobs of displaced farmers, hungry and angry, in the streets of Mexico City. Again and again. Until some solution is found.

It won't take much to create a full-scale civil war at this point, and tip the country to a Hugo Chavez-style government. Watch carefully, and be careful what you wish for!
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I REFUSE to allow the mexicans to overrun America just to keep a despotic regime out of power there. What do they NEED such a regime for if they can simply conquer us via moving their entire population north of the border? I get so sick of hearing that same bullsh*t argument over and over again. It's the same reasoning that keeps us in Iraq. "If we don't fight al Qaeda THERE, we'll be fighting them HERE" (even though we already are.)

"If we don't support mexico NO MATTER WHAT, we'll end up with a Communist regime on our border." Fear mongering in the worst way.
 

AzProtector

Veteran Member
About a quarter of the people in that country (estimated at 28 million folks) lived on small subsistance farms, usually about 5 acres. They were just scraping by. But after NAFTA went into effect, they were unable to make a living. Some 9 million of those folks came to the US, and the money they sent home was their only cushion.

Now this is drying up, and many folks are going back there. Most of their foreign exchange is from PEMEX oil, and that is drying up, too. If the price of oil doesn't go to 120+ and hold it, they'll have a true catastrophe this year. The gov. skims off about 45% of their profits, which is how they pay for gov. services.

From what I've read the problem is simple. Those folks don't have a real subsistance homestead situation. Instead, they were simply planting corn (mostly). After NAFTA the price of corn came down too low, and they couldn't compete with the US prices, so stopped growing. THis may become a self-correcting problem as the cost of grain goes up. On the other hand, any study of US farm literature will tell you, the inputs to grain have been going up faster than the price of the grain, and for more years. The US farmers have some structural help to keep them in the fields during these periods. The MExicans didn't. Very little help available and almost no information about it to the people who needed it.

What would save the situation is a true Permaculture/homestead education and enabling plan. Five acres, properly used, could keep those folks fed.

So they are faced with a late-Rome scene. Mobs of displaced farmers, hungry and angry, in the streets of Mexico City. Again and again. Until some solution is found.

It won't take much to create a full-scale civil war at this point, and tip the country to a Hugo Chavez-style government. Watch carefully, and be careful what you wish for!

Tough sh-t for them. The Minutemen are on the border as we speak, and I'm sure it wouldn't be difficult to mobilize a sh-t load more.
 

almost ready

Inactive
Absolutely, Dennis!

Send them all back. I couldn't agree with you more.

However, what we spend fighting overseas in just one day, properly redirected, could save us an enormous amount of pain just a couple years down the road. People will suffer much, with a plan and a little hope.

Won't happen, though. Nobody in power seems to think of problems and solutions. They deliberatly put people into a vice and squeeze. When they explode, degrade and dehumanize them, club them and make them a burden on their neighbors.

Just send out the military to overrun the towns and villages when they start rioting. Get more guns. It's a Ted Turner/Prince Philip solution. They hate humans and want them all dead. No remorse, no empathy. It's amazing how many people are buying into that thinking. Excellent example of creating divisions between one poor class and another to keep them at each other's throats. Now the Blacks and Latinos are at war in the LA area. Perfect reaction, for some.

Can't you see that you're being played? That this whole "crisis" is staged? That your "hate" has been carefully and deliberately cultivated like a fine fruit, with a combination of bad economic policy and bad social "politically correct" policy?

:boohoo:

Remember, my friends, NAFTA and its consequences didn't just happen. It was shoved down our throats quite deliberately. We voted against it, remember? Clinton promised to block it. :kk2:

If we can't see through the matrix of economic collapse and deliberate provocation that has been thrown over us, we can't ever deal with the problems and retake control.
 

Sooth

Veteran Member
About a quarter of the people in that country (estimated at 28 million folks) lived on small subsistance farms, usually about 5 acres. They were just scraping by. But after NAFTA went into effect, they were unable to make a living. Some 9 million of those folks came to the US, and the money they sent home was their only cushion.

Now this is drying up, and many folks are going back there. Most of their foreign exchange is from PEMEX oil, and that is drying up, too. If the price of oil doesn't go to 120+ and hold it, they'll have a true catastrophe this year. The gov. skims off about 45% of their profits, which is how they pay for gov. services.
The spaghetti Westerns showing the poor Mexican farmers fighting off the banditos was accurate for the day that it depicted. Now the banditos are dressed in Brooks Brothers Suits - just like our own in DC.

Fact is, corrupt government there has screwed them over for centuries and will continue to do so until THEY stand up and do something about it. Our own bandito politicians and banksters are doing their level best to eliminate our middle class and to reduce us all to the level of peasant servitude. They are closer to succeeding than most realize. It will take very little to tip the majority of sheeple in this country straight into the roles of the poor peasants seen south of the border. Consider the foreclosures, the empty houses, the unemployment, whole industries moved beyond our borders, our infrastructure sold off to foreign interests, the poverty which is only being held back in many cases by the hope of one more (please God let it work once more) swipe of the credit card.

If we don't change it soon, what we see and condemn south of the border will be staring back at us from the mirror. Soon.

Sooth
 

NoPlugsNM

Deceased
Let me apologise up front for my attitude and how I am going to express it.

ALL illegal insurgent aliens NEED to be returned to THEIR motherlands - be it Mexico or wherever the hell they came from, they are illegals no other thing needs to be said about them. Many have trashed my country, many have harmed my fellow citizens, many have killed my fellow citizens, they COST me a ton of my tax money in ALL the un-necessary expenses they create, of which my fellow citizens could benefit by.

Mexico, especially the border areas next to the US are all TRUE SHIT HOLES and after getting a taste of better living it is NO WONDER why they complain to their HOMELAND COUNTRY but they should not be my problem, your problem, or anyone other than Mexico's problem.

It take TRUE BALLS to complain about getting your own 'family' back and them having some expectations. Sorry, but they ALL need to go back home, it IS their country and they need to get it the way they want it by however means they can, time to change the gov in Mexico?? They have had a taste of freedom, let the freedom bell ring there.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
The spaghetti Westerns showing the poor Mexican farmers fighting off the banditos was accurate for the day that it depicted. Now the banditos are dressed in Brooks Brothers Suits - just like our own in DC.

Fact is, corrupt government there has screwed them over for centuries and will continue to do so until THEY stand up and do something about it.
Our own bandito politicians and banksters are doing their level best to eliminate our middle class and to reduce us all to the level of peasant servitude. They are closer to succeeding than most realize. It will take very little to tip the majority of sheeple in this country straight into the roles of the poor peasants seen south of the border. Consider the foreclosures, the empty houses, the unemployment, whole industries moved beyond our borders, our infrastructure sold off to foreign interests, the poverty which is only being held back in many cases by the hope of one more (please God let it work once more) swipe of the credit card.

If we don't change it soon, what we see and condemn south of the border will be staring back at us from the mirror. Soon.

Sooth

And that is the concern of the powers that be that have run Mexico since Cortez took it away from the Aztecs. The U.S. has been a combination emergency pressure release valve and income source. If you're desperate enough to go to the U.S. and live in the social underground, what will you be willing to do if you can't leave and have to stay in Mexico? :whistle:
 

Kook

A 'maker', not a 'taker'!
So now....

.....Mexico has too many Mexicans? Looks like they have the same problem we do!!:lkick:
 

Harbinger

Veteran Member
Now if the rest of the country will get just as smart and actually protect the US citizens and their jobs and homes instead of the good ole boy paybacks to their corporate cronies for getting them elected - we may actually have some hope for a change.

Amen!

They have left out mention of the citizen referendums that were voted on and passed over the past many years in Arizona only to have them overturned by the courts or allowed to die by spineless state legislators. I and many others voted for every one of them and saw them all die. Happy that some finally got the message and passed laws that stuck.

Every state in the Union needs to pass similar laws because the Federal government will never pass laws to protect us.

Sooth

Amen!

This dilemma would appear to be at odds with the oft-quoted sentiment of Mexicans, wherein it is said that "they love their chidren." Loving one's children is, to be certain, a fine trait indeed, but does that mean Mexico collectively only loves its children when the responsibility for them is foisted on another nation? :shr:

Oh the truth is revealed...just read between the lines!:whistle:

The spaghetti Westerns showing the poor Mexican farmers fighting off the banditos was accurate for the day that it depicted. Now the banditos are dressed in Brooks Brothers Suits - just like our own in DC.

Fact is, corrupt government there has screwed them over for centuries and will continue to do so until THEY stand up and do something about it. Our own bandito politicians and banksters are doing their level best to eliminate our middle class and to reduce us all to the level of peasant servitude. They are closer to succeeding than most realize. It will take very little to tip the majority of sheeple in this country straight into the roles of the poor peasants seen south of the border. Consider the foreclosures, the empty houses, the unemployment, whole industries moved beyond our borders, our infrastructure sold off to foreign interests, the poverty which is only being held back in many cases by the hope of one more (please God let it work once more) swipe of the credit card.

If we don't change it soon, what we see and condemn south of the border will be staring back at us from the mirror. Soon.

Sooth


What a better way to conquer than by dumbing the public ....Baaaaaa!!!!:whistle:
Oh cry me a friggin tear!:boohoo: :smkd: :kk2:
 

pkchicken

resident chicken
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One baffled Mexican legislator, Leticia Amparano Gamez, asked in Spanish “how can they pass a law like this?” She went on to explain that Mexico is not prepared for the “tremendous problems” it will face as more and more Mexicans working in Arizona and sending money to their families return to hometowns in Sonora without jobs. Another member of the Mexican delegation, Representative Florencio Diaz Armenta, asked “what do we do with the repatriated?”

Maybe they could try being responsible for their own? They could make social programs . They could invest in the well being of their own country. What in the world makes them think it is anyone elses responsibility?

pk
 
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Mr. Dot

Inactive
One baffled Mexican legislator, Leticia Amparano Gamez, asked in Spanish “how can they pass a law like this?” She went on to explain that Mexico is not prepared for the “tremendous problems” it will face as more and more Mexicans working in Arizona and sending money to their families return to hometowns in Sonora without jobs. Another member of the Mexican delegation, Representative Florencio Diaz Armenta, asked “what do we do with the repatriated?”

OMG - that's so...so... beautiful.

:boohoo:
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Mexico Complains Of Too Many Repatriated Mexicans
Mon, 04/07/2008 - 15:28 — Judicial Watch Blog
The U.S. border state leading the battle against illegal immigration with unprecedented tough laws has received complaints from Mexico’s government that too many Mexicans have been repatriated and the country is overwhelmed with demands for housing, jobs and schools.

:applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

California should follow the lead of Arizona (I pray it does) because we've been feeling Mexico's newly found pain for TOO FRICKEN LONG!

I'm tired of my tax dollars supporting Mexicans.

Mike
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
.....Mexico has too many Mexicans? Looks like they have the same problem we do!!:lkick:


LOL!

the Roman Catholic Church has brought into existence an oversupply of little mexican roman catholics by forbidding birth control measures. maybe that is a good thing if they can ship them off on a crusade to take over the muslim countries. otherwise, too bad, so so so sad.
 

peekaboo

Veteran Member
I work in a place frequented by Mexicans both coming to AZ and returning to Mexico. In fact the place I work is one of the first or last places they stop before hitting the international border.

I'll let you in on some first hand observations. Now remember these things do not apply to ALL the people but a majority of them.

When they come here it is usually on foot with what they can carry. They catch a ride with a smuggler here OR they take a shuttle from Douglas to Tucson /Phoenix. The shuttles coming from the south used to packed with people all the time. We at times would have hords of people who would come out of the woodwork from everywhere when a shuttles was scheduled hoping for a seat , that no longer happens. Sometimes the shuttle will have 3 people instead of the 15 and for the most part it is old people going to visit family. We no longer have people asking us what time the shuttle is coming.

With people returning to Mexico, its amazing how many nice new trucks I see loaded with leather furniture headed that way. Things I can't afford and my husband an I both work.

Usually Christmas and Easter are big holidays for people to go home to Mexico and visit, at Christmas its usually for about a month. Mid to late January we noticed that they weren't coming back.

The Mexican government as been whining about the new laws here since before we voted. Let them whine. The Mexican government provided its citizens with maps and helpful hints for people wanting to cross the border. Now we are one upping them,,, All any Mexican who wants to cross back over the border has to is contact any Border Patrol Agent and we will give them a free ride home.

Their government has always been corrupt. Mexico has always been a land of haves and have nots. Now they are going to have to deal with the have nots that have come here and are now haves and expects.
 
"...too many Mexicans have been repatriated and the country is overwhelmed with demands for housing, jobs and schools...."


Gosh - now Mexico faces the same exact economic demands as the USA has for more than a decade now - in trying to meet these same needs caused by the invasion from the South.

Time to tune the violin...:boohoo:
 

Dex

Constitutional Patriot
Mexicans need to pool their resources and turn their own country around instead of sucking the blood out of America. Why can't people see this? At the rate that America is outsourcing manufacturing, much of which is going to Mexico, they could be producing MORE jobs south of the border. What a turnabout that would be. Now if that were to happen, how would they feel if jobless Americans started going south to take jobs from Mexicans? I could see this actually happening to a degree and it would be a fitting role reversal.

America is circling the drain and drastically needs a flea bath like what Arizona is doing. If the liberal pukes who support the illegals want to keep THEIR jobs they better get on board because we are ALL in deep doodoo at the moment.

I was in Arizona last week and I gotta admit I have never seen a middle age caucasion man working as a hotel housekeeper. It was a sobering revelation because I live in the Balt/DC corridor and have lived in CA and have NEVER seen this. It just goes to show how badily Arizonians need their jobs. I was right south of Tuscon about 5 miles from the border for a long weekend and it really brought home what I already knew, Americans NEED their jobs and ARE willing to work jobs that the liberal pukes claim only Mexicans will do.

I applaud the Arizona legislature and Im glad that these repatriated Mexicans and their homeland is getting a dose of reality. They need to take care of their own and fix their own problems instead of being a parasite on dying America.
 

Norma

Veteran Member
Let me apologise up front for my attitude and how I am going to express it.

ALL illegal insurgent aliens NEED to be returned to THEIR motherlands - be it Mexico or wherever the hell they came from, they are illegals no other thing needs to be said about them. Many have trashed my country, many have harmed my fellow citizens, many have killed my fellow citizens, they COST me a ton of my tax money in ALL the un-necessary expenses they create, of which my fellow citizens could benefit by.

Mexico, especially the border areas next to the US are all TRUE SHIT HOLES and after getting a taste of better living it is NO WONDER why they complain to their HOMELAND COUNTRY but they should not be my problem, your problem, or anyone other than Mexico's problem.

It take TRUE BALLS to complain about getting your own 'family' back and them having some expectations. Sorry, but they ALL need to go back home, it IS their country and they need to get it the way they want it by however means they can, time to change the gov in Mexico?? They have had a taste of freedom, let the freedom bell ring there.

I agree with you 100%. That is why my sign said (REFORM MEXICO NOT THE USA on one side and NO AMNESTY on the other) When I anti-protested in the town of Storm Lake Ia 3 years ago this May and 2 years ago when DH and I took part in March for America in DC.

Norma
 

nannygoat

Inactive
it was interesting the past few weeks how many trucks loaded with a family and lots of nice furniture,furniture and clothes and the truck with sonora plates were heading south on 80 and that means to mexico - yehhh - maybe the mexicans can help change their country around now that they have an idea how life can be when you go not have to pay for every little service and govnerment service to get ahead or start a business -
 

FREEBIRD

Has No Life - Lives on TB
"About a quarter of the people in that country (estimated at 28 million folks) lived on small subsistance farms, usually about 5 acres. They were just scraping by. But after NAFTA went into effect, they were unable to make a living. Some 9 million of those folks came to the US, and the money they sent home was their only cushion.

Now this is drying up, and many folks are going back there. Most of their foreign exchange is from PEMEX oil, and that is drying up, too. If the price of oil doesn't go to 120+ and hold it, they'll have a true catastrophe this year. The gov. skims off about 45% of their profits, which is how they pay for gov. services.

From what I've read the problem is simple. Those folks don't have a real subsistance homestead situation. Instead, they were simply planting corn (mostly). After NAFTA the price of corn came down too low, and they couldn't compete with the US prices, so stopped growing. THis may become a self-correcting problem as the cost of grain goes up. On the other hand, any study of US farm literature will tell you, the inputs to grain have been going up faster than the price of the grain, and for more years. The US farmers have some structural help to keep them in the fields during these periods. The Mexicans didn't. Very little help available and almost no information about it to the people who needed it.

What would save the situation is a true Permaculture/homestead education and enabling plan. Five acres, properly used, could keep those folks fed."

_____________________

Fisrt and oldest problem: the Mexican government and all its petty underlings has been corrupt since the Spanish ruled there. They use the US as their safety valve to keep themselves in power. They need to go.

Second and more recent problem: The US had NO right to impose NAFTA, which did exacerbate the problem for the Mexican peasant farmers. Rich countries do not have the moral right to tinker with the economics of a poorer country in order to make poor people go hungry.

What is necessary is for the Mexican people to take their country back from the corrupt politicians, etc.. They have every right to build a country that can allow their people to live in dignity. They just haven't done it yet.

And the comment about too many Mexicans = too many Catholics is NOT appreciated.

I support the rights of Mexicans (as I do the rights of all other human beings) to their own lands, their citizenship rights within those lands (including the right of self-government), and the right to raise and feed their families in peace.

I support their HUMAN rights (as I do the HUMAN rights of all other human beings) wherever they are, to be treated as people and not as vermin. I think the Minutemen set a good example in this regard.

And I never forget that many if not most of the the Mexican people are my brothers and sisters in Christ and I try to act accordingly.
 
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CelticRose

Membership Revoked
Mexico Complains Of Too Many Repatriated Mexicans
Mon, 04/07/2008 - 15:28 — Judicial Watch Blog
The U.S. border state leading the battle against illegal immigration with unprecedented tough laws has received complaints from Mexico’s government that too many Mexicans have been repatriated and the country is overwhelmed with demands for housing, jobs and schools.


:prfl:

The cost to the U.S. taxpayers for illegal aliens to abuse our social system, schools, housing, medical care and assorted other costs ....... In the billions ..........


The cost to the U.S. taxpayers for for the criminal activities, court system, jails / prison and the time and sadly, loss of life by LEO's ..... Immeasurable ........

But the cost of 'assisting illegal aliens return to their own country?? Well that's freakin' priceless ..........

Mexico needs to get its collective fecal matter together and take care of their own, clean up their grossly corrupt government and learn how to use their natural resources to build a better, stronger more stable country ...... They have the materials to do so; too bad they opt to put their energy elsewhere......... :whistle:
 

frazbo

Veteran Member
When you think of all the money that all the "mexican organizations" in the US have spent to KEEP the illegal mexicans here and given, freely, everything they can get their hands on, I fail to see why they don't take those organizations down to mexico and use all that money to get things going DOWN there instead of UP here!

I really do see why they don't do it, it was just a rhetorical question.


Go fix your OWN country and leave MINE alone! The Buffet Line is closed!
 

Worrier King

Deceased
LOL!

the Roman Catholic Church has brought into existence an oversupply of little mexican roman catholics by forbidding birth control measures. maybe that is a good thing if they can ship them off on a crusade to take over the muslim countries. otherwise, too bad, so so so sad.

Bingo.


As Edward Abbey said, "give them a rifle and a cartridge box at the border and send them south".
 

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
creating divisions between one poor class and another to keep them at each other's throats....

Can't you see that you're being played? That this whole "crisis" is staged? That your "hate" has been carefully and deliberately cultivated like a fine fruit, with a combination of bad economic policy and bad social "politically correct" policy?

.



This is true in so many different areas.


I used to think that this notion of privatizing Social Security was just the coupling of selfish young people who do not want to shoulder any burden for their elders the way that the boomers and their parents did for their elders, coupled with the greed and stupidity of some Wall Street brokers.


But I have come to realize that the Politiko's convenient stealing of the Social Security funds, coupled with running Medicare into the ground, is no accident at all -- it was a DELIBERATE action on the part of TPTB to instigate a generational war between the young and the older -- the ultimate aim being to set up a social structure where people work as slaves to the masters until the point in time when they can no longer serve TPTB.


Then, at that point, they are denied income to live and proper medical care, which is -- in essence -- a death sentence.


The idea is work folks until they can no longer work, then let them DIE by neglect.


And all these young folks who are thinking about those few extra bucks being put in their privatized accounts where they cannot be stolen the way the boomer's money was stolen -- well, they are living in a dream world.


Because if the politikos can figure out a way to steal the boomer's money so that they will DIE when they can no longer produce can and will surely generate a scenerio to rob the Gen X'ers and the Nintendo generation of THEIR nest eggs too, when the time comes.


TPTB want to revamp the world in such a way that YOU work in their system, as their controlled slave, until the day you can no longer produce enough for them.


Then they want you to DIE.


And what better way to do that than to steal the Social Security money, then sow the seeds of discontent between the younger and older generations so that the younger generation -- and not the powerful elites who are orchestrating all of this -- are the ones who demand the legislation that will ultimately KILL their parents and grandparents prematurely?


Young folks, they are USING YOU to do THEIR dirty work for them....


Same way they create discord in this scenerio, and so many others...
 
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