MORON No roads for you! Major U.S. city to slap drivers with massive toll to cut traffic

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No roads for you! Major U.S. city to slap drivers with massive toll to cut traffic​

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'You are not eliminating pollution, you are just displacing it'​

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By Jake Smith
Daily Caller News Foundation

New York City is implementing congestion pricing policies that will drive up costs for people traveling by car.

The city will implement a daily toll — $15 and up — for drivers traveling in Manhattan south of 60th Street, with some exceptions including on FDR Drive and the West Side Highway, Axios reported on Monday. The policy, which took decades to develop and is the first of its kind in the country, has faced backlash and legal challenges from residents and advocacy groups who claim it will hurt small business owners and drive up costs for travelers.

“It’s going to kill Broadway,” Susan Lee, president of New Yorkers Against Congestion Pricing — one of the groups suing the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) — told Axios. “You’re going to charge me $15 to come in to see a play, in addition to what I’m already spending?”


The policy is set to go into effect sometime in June, although an exact date hasn’t been locked down yet, according to Axios. It is expected to reduce traffic in the toll area by 17% and reduce pollution; money made through the toll will be purposed to upgrade the city’s public transportation system.

The plan is to run a $15 toll for any drivers to the region during “peak hours” — 5 a.m. to 9 p.m. during the week and 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. during weekends, according to Axios. It will cost $3.75 during off-peak hours.

Buses and trucks will pay up to $36 depending on their size and what their purpose in the city is, according to Axios. Residents seeking to catch a taxi will pay an additional $1.25 per ride, and $2.50 with Uber and Lyft.

Although the policy has received 60% favorability through public comments, six lawsuits have been filed against the city in federal courts, which could hamstring its enforcement, according to Axios. Democratic New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy is among the legal challengers of the plan, citing environmental concerns.

“You are not eliminating pollution, you are just displacing it from Manhattan to New Jersey,” Murphy said, according to ABC 7. “And you’re charging our commuters an exorbitant fee on top of that.”

Former Democratic New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who signed the plan into law in 2019, now opposes its enforcement.

“Many things have changed since 2019 and while it is the right public policy, we must seriously consider if now is the right time to enact it,” Cuomo wrote in an op-ed for the New York Post in March. “What impact will an additional $15 entry surcharge have on New York City’s recovery in this moment — when the migrant crisis, crime, homelessness, quality of life and taxes are all pressing problems?”

Less than half of New Yorkers feel safe riding the subway during the daytime in 2023, a more than 30% drop from 2017 and 2008, according to a poll conducted by the Citizens Budget Commission in March. Crime rates on the subway did not drop significantly between Jan. 1 and Mar. 1, and there has been an increase in the number of gun-related arrests.

Democratic New York Gov. Kathy Hochul deployed the state National Guard to segments of the city subway system in March to deter crime. Hochul’s plan was met with criticisms and she subsequently altered the policy so that only units would be armed, calling into question how effective they could be while conducting operations.

“Honestly, we’re just not at a good place,” Lee told Axios. “The MTA needs to assure the public, to regain the confidence that we need to use the subway.”

Democratic New York City Mayor Eric Adams’ administration did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
 

Pinecone

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Portland OR was going to do this to I-5. Governor decided to shelve it. For awhile. Probably until after the elections.
 

et2

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They’re discussing it … Whitler … having toll roads on MI freeways and major roads
 

Macgyver

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NJ killed off all the traffic cams years ago.

There was talk about no longer sharing NJ plate information with other states for any type of automatic ticket system. So essentially other states won't be able to ticket you.

It is being talked about again.
I wonder if this is being revisited because of this crap. Kind of an FU to NY.
 

blueinterceptor

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The people that have to commute into Manhattan and have to pay the toll are the ones that will be hurt the most. Shop owners and the like. The rich people that live there are the ones that will love it. People that are going to see a broadway show are not going to miss 15$. But cops and firemen that have to come into work 5x per week are going to take a 6k pay cut.
The city and state collect millions from drivers that use the mta bridges and tunnels. Only a small percentage of what’s collected go into maintenance of those facilities. The rest goes into repairing the mass transit system and public housing. They constantly soak people with cars. What the should do is charge people the actual cost of a subway or bus ride.
 
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Publius

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So about $150 a week if you work in that city thats if you have Saturday and Sunday off and if not add another $60 making it $210 a week.
 

BassMan

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While I spell city starting with "sh" rather than "c", I am not pleased with what I see happening re: roads, taxes, tolls and EVs in general.
 

Barry Natchitoches

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Will the illegals have to pay this toll to beg on the streets, or send their kids out to sell the food that was freely given to them?
 

WildDaisy

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Most people already dont go into the city from the surrounding areas unless they cannot avoid it. I have a family member who is a musical director on broadway for a show that lasted years and recently closed and he never went back to broadway. He's been in show business for decades. He saw the writing on the wall and took off out of town. Said the place is deserted and only people around the city are illegals and people who think they cant afford to move (when in actuality, it costs them less to move than staying).
 

Plain Jane

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This policy is reverberating in PA from the Poconos down to the Lehigh Valley. For decades people who are from NYC and New Jersey have been moving into PA and making the trip into NYC for work.
 

Squid

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It’s New York. You know, that New York who trucks in all the crap they need to survive like food.

Go ahead New York, last I checked a City being b@+$h!+ libtard stupid is not a crime.

Everytime one of these demo run coastal cities come up with some law or regulation to run themselves into the ground the rest of them say Hold my Beer.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
They tried this in London, and it isn't popular; I don't know if it has reduced traffic. If it was really to get people out of private cars, then buses and taxis should face no charges (nor their customers).

They did the toll roll thing in Ireland, and surprise! Shock! People go out of their way to drive on the older roads that the toll roads were supposed to replace. Frequent travelers (like my housemate) know which parts of the toll roads don't have collection points and use those, then take the off-ramps onto the older roads before they pay anything. Electronic tagging may stop this practice, but it will result in more people on the old streets.

The Government makes some money, but not enough to pay for the toll roads (or what was expected when they were originally planned and put in place).

I suspect this will encourage more businesses to leave New York City. There has been a certain amount of moving by companies in London. The people hurts the most are doctors, nurses, firefighters, and others who have no choice but to drive to work (independent tradespeople like plumbers). Over time, they tend to move away.
 
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