VIDEO [Op-Ed] Tucker Carlson Interviews Russian Philosopher Aleksandr Dugin

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Tucker Carlson Interviews Russian Philosopher Aleksandr Dugin


Aleksandr Dugin is the most famous political philosopher in Russia. His ideas are considered so dangerous the Ukrainian government murdered his daughter, and Amazon won’t sell his books. Tucker Carlson talked to him in Moscow.

Watching this interview while sitting in a kitchen in Russia is a little odd, however, what Dugin explains does seem to lineup with my perspective as an American in Russia. The explanation for why leftists (progressives) in the USA seemingly reversed their entire worldview about Russia in a decade does seem to make sense.

I have shared that modern Russian social society is much more traditional than the expressed Western value system you find embodied in progressives. Russia is far more nationalistic and less globalist; meanwhile, the USA has moved far closer to globalism and is less nationalistic. Within this shift, the change in democracy also reconciles.

As Dugin notes, Western democracy is no longer about the majority of the citizens; the national identity has been erased in favor of governing rules by a minority. The commonality of sex (two genders) has been erased in favor of multiple-gender identity, expanded individualism, which is simply a reflection of the fractured bond of commonality. It is an interesting conversation.

R/T 20:58

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIULmTprQ6o


It should be noted before people in the USA and English speaking “West” start running around with romantic images of Russia, that the Russian people do not think about such issues… AT ALL. The average Russian thinks about social politics about as much as the average American, which is to say – not much at all.

However, all of that said, someone asked me about COVID-19 in Russia and what was the general sensibility of the issue. I have had some rather fascinating discussions thanks to that question.

I never thought I would find a population more cynical about COVID-19, the “pandemic of ’20/’21” and the vaccine protocol than Americans on average. I was wrong. In my conversations with Russians about it, the average person in Russia was far more cynical than the average American.

I’m not sure why, but a larger than 50% group of the Russian people did not buy into the fear and hype. From the conversations I have encountered, more than half the population didn’t trust the claims by the Western medical establishment.

Additionally, fewer than half the population of Russia appear to have accepted the vaccine. We are told the vaccine compliance rate for the first injection in the USA was around 65 to 70%. It does not seem like 70% of Russians took the vaccine; it seems that Russia had a much lower compliance rate based on responses to the question.

I’m not exactly sure why the biggest segment of the Russian population didn’t fall for the COVID-19 pandemic hype; perhaps their cynicism against “institutions” of a totalitarian state helped them on this subject, I don’t know. However, the most frequent response is the average Russian just didn’t believe COVID-19 was as dangerous as the various health agencies were saying it was.

The government of Russia pushed the vaccine, perhaps not as aggressively as the USA and other Western countries, but they did push it hard. However, it appears much less than half the population followed the govt advice.

I’ll have more later on some granular Russian dynamics as they appear to present.

It really is bizarre being here in Russia. There are zero Western tourists or travelers in this country. The only tourists and/or foreigners Russia has seen for over two years are all from Asia (mostly China). When the average Russian hears my American voice speaking English, the immediate reaction is shock, followed by extreme curiosity – it’s wild.

There’s nothing to be fearful about or worried about. Everywhere seems to be safe, orderly and exceptionally well cultured; maybe even a little annoyingly so. The polite and unwritten social rules are followed by everyone with a general compliance unlike anything I can remember seeing in the USA. Everything from how you cross the street to obeying social standards on subway travel is extraordinarily polite and mannerly; factually it’s a little weird.

Do not romanticize Russia in your mind’s-eye; there are major issues here, and the quality of life in the average USA neighborhood is much higher. However, on the cultural part of polite social norms, most Russian social life is like a step back into the 1950’s USA with perhaps a bigger dose of visible counter-culture evident.

The USA boomer generation would recognize the shallow coldness behind the eyes of Russians who avoid eye contact and appear to be task oriented in life. Oddly, if you grew up as a USA Gen-Xer, socially current Russia is probably more like the place of your fond memories, and going to a large shopping mall is like stepping back in time 30 years. If, however, you have a gen-Z or ‘zoomer’ in the familial crew, they would think modern social Russia is backwards and too regimented.

From what I can tell, those Western (generational) viewpoints are entirely due to the speed of transition that Dugin notes from the rising of Vladimir Putin to the leadership of Russia.

There ain’t no welcoming room for Barack Obama, Bill Ayers, Cass Sunstein, Samantha Power and/or any of the progressive crew here. Russian patriotism is probably at the highest generational point in a long time, and I doubt President Putin is going to miss the opportunity to perma-ban all the Western corporations that exited Russia after the sanctions came along.

The reality of the Western sanction regime is really going to take an entire series of articles to explain. T-mobile cell phone service works here (go figure, no blocks at all), as long as you don’t interface your device with Russian internet wifi, which is really funny.

Yes, you can connect to all the banned Western stuff through the cell phone network (value of a yellow phone in Russia), and simultaneously you can connect and access all of the banned stuff the USA government controls and stops Americans from seeing/using if you have a grey zone originating phone and cell phone number. lolol

It really is bizarre how an individual person can operate, in this fragmented communication world, once they teach themselves the tools and techniques. Perhaps the most stunningly obvious difference between Yellow and Grey – anyone with a passport can open a bank account in Russia. The RU banks even have their computers set up to plug in to your device and upload apps, because the Apple/Google app stores don’t permit it (sanctions).

There is a lengthy learning curve, but it is well worth the time figuring out how to navigate the financial matrix the West has constructed. The sanctions against Russia are stunningly irrelevant, and were not designed to keep Russia out of the western financial system. The Sanctions were created to keep Americans, Canadians, AU/NZ, Japan and EU locked into the West.

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THAT was THE SADDEST and SCARIEST 20 minute interview I have EVER WATCHED! :shkr:

I found it fascinating that he pointed to the movies that Hollywood puts out but we didn't 'get' that they will be erasing our humanity when we watched them. (We've talked a LOT about the messages in their movies on the Q thread). I just figured they wanted to kill us; NOT to strip away our humanity, but according to Dugin, this has been the evil one's GOAL all along! There is nothing else they hope to achieve after taking away our human-ness. They've accomplished their goal. Utopia! And Dugan sees no escape from this. THIS is why the demons hate Putin so much! Because he's a traditionalist!

And we are now here! Cry.gif
 
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seraphima

Veteran Member
This is an EXTREMELY IMPORTANT video because it has some keys to why our country is veering whacko. For example, why the new leftists are over- individualizing, and rejecting any kind of group identity- American, or part of a family, or male or female, and next- humanity optional. Makes those young 'furries' who identify as animals even scarier, not to mention those who want to become cyborg. please take the time to listen to the video, even if it is a little work. Might explain some things we have all been scratching our heads over.
 

Tex88

Veteran Member
Hang on, that name sounds familiar?

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Aleksandr Gelyevich Dugin
(Russian: Александр Гельевич Дугин; born 7 January 1962) is a Russian far-right political philosopher.

Born into a military intelligence family, Dugin was an anti-communist dissident during the 1980s.[4] Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Dugin co-founded the National Bolshevik Party with Eduard Limonov, a party which espoused National Bolshevism, which he later left.

In 1997, he published Foundations of Geopolitics, in which he outlined his worldview, calling for Russia to rebuild its influence through alliances and conquest, and to challenge the rival Atlanticist empire led by the United States.

Dugin continued to further develop his ideology of neo-Eurasianism, founding the Eurasia Party in 2002 and writing further books including The Fourth Political Theory (2009).

His political views have been characterized as fascist or neo-fascist.
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Yeah so obviously Tucker-o Rose would have a hard-on for him.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
No matter what . . . every individual is equal.
Pedophiles are now equal and should simply be considered "minor attracted persons" with equal rights.
People that think they are dolphins aren't crazy . . . they are equal individuals who self identify.

It is the tyranny of equality because "four score and seven years ago" this nation was dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. It will be used to dismantle the nation.

So go forth being all equal and individual and shit.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Hang on, that name sounds familiar?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Aleksandr Gelyevich Dugin
(Russian: Александр Гельевич Дугин; born 7 January 1962) is a Russian far-right political philosopher.

Born into a military intelligence family, Dugin was an anti-communist dissident during the 1980s.[4] Following the dissolution of the Soviet Union, Dugin co-founded the National Bolshevik Party with Eduard Limonov, a party which espoused National Bolshevism, which he later left.

In 1997, he published Foundations of Geopolitics, in which he outlined his worldview, calling for Russia to rebuild its influence through alliances and conquest, and to challenge the rival Atlanticist empire led by the United States.

Dugin continued to further develop his ideology of neo-Eurasianism, founding the Eurasia Party in 2002 and writing further books including The Fourth Political Theory (2009).

His political views have been characterized as fascist or neo-fascist.
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Yeah so obviously Tucker-o Rose would have a hard-on for him.
Ummmmmmm---

You DO realize the LEFT calls all of us folks "Fascist" too---right????????????????
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
This is an EXTREMELY IMPORTANT video because it has some keys to why our country is veering whacko. For example, why the new leftists are over- individualizing, and rejecting any kind of group identity- American, or part of a family, or male or female, and next- humanity optional. Makes those young 'furries' who identify as animals even scarier, not to mention those who want to become cyborg. please take the time to listen to the video, even if it is a little work. Might explain some things we have all been scratching our heads over.
I found this quote particularly interesting:

The sanctions against Russia are stunningly irrelevant, and were not designed to keep Russia out of the western financial system. The Sanctions were created to keep Americans, Canadians, AU/NZ, Japan and EU locked into the West.

I'm sure you all remember that the European Communist countries were identified by being "behind the Iron Curtain" - meaning they both imprisoned their own people within their borders from being able to travel outside (and thus see what freedom was like and HOW imprisoned they really were) AND prevented ANY NEWS OR INFORMATION from the WEST from getting INTO the "Iron Curtain" countries---again so their people would ONLY hear / know the narrative their dictatorship government wanted them to know.

Now the tables have turned---and WE in the West are the ones "behind the Iron Curtain."
 

Tex88

Veteran Member
I found this quote particularly interesting:

The sanctions against Russia are stunningly irrelevant, and were not designed to keep Russia out of the western financial system. The Sanctions were created to keep Americans, Canadians, AU/NZ, Japan and EU locked into the West.

I'm sure you all remember that the European Communist countries were identified by being "behind the Iron Curtain" - meaning they both imprisoned their own people within their borders from being able to travel outside (and thus see what freedom was like and HOW imprisoned they really were) AND prevented ANY NEWS OR INFORMATION from the WEST from getting INTO the "Iron Curtain" countries---again so their people would ONLY hear / know the narrative their dictatorship government wanted them to know.

Now the tables have turned---and WE in the West are the ones "behind the Iron Curtain."
Gibberish.
 

Tex88

Veteran Member
just because you say it does not make it so - you have to use words and sentences to flesh out your position.
otherwise you are merely being a liberal democrat banning the ideas Dugan just because . . .

oh wait, sorry . . . that is what you are doing.

never mind.
You can read, and you have the ability to comprehend words. There’s like no need to counter absolute gibberish. And the words coming out of Duggy’s mouth are absolute nonsensical gibberish. It would be like arguing with the guy screaming at the intersection downtown.
 

OhioBull

Contributing Member
The primary point he made was that he felt like the hyper individualism we’ve advocated for in the West has led to the inevitable result of where we are at….destruction of all associations with any collective whether it be the state, family, religion, gender, and even being human. Agree with him or not, this brings up an interesting point to consider. If there is even a shred of truth to this then it does have profound ramifications. Just because the guy is a fascist doesn’t mean that there can’t be a kernel of truth to what he is saying. I’ve heard it said that, “even a cow is smart enough to separate the thistles from the grass”. We should be wise enough to assess and use 5% truth even if the other 95% is false. I personally believe there is a shred of truth to what the man is saying.
 

bassgirl

Veteran Member
The really amazing thing he said was look at our movies and science fiction books . It has all come true, and how do a lot of those movies end? Utopia? Nope, dark, hopeless. Ideas written in the early 1900's have become reality in the 21st century.

Fahrenheit 451, 1984 etc. Or the Terminator, (seen Boston dynamics new police dogs?) Or the take over of HAL computers etc, now we call them AI. Or further reality worlds like Surrogates or the Matrix. It's all coming true which when you think about it is really, really weird. It's like they were non religious prophets shouting warnings into the future.
 

OhioBull

Contributing Member
The really amazing thing he said was look at our movies and science fiction books . It has all come true, and how do a lot of those movies end? Utopia? Nope, dark, hopeless. Ideas written in the early 1900's have become reality in the 21st century.

Fahrenheit 451, 1984 etc. Or the Terminator, (seen Boston dynamics new police dogs?) Or the take over of HAL computers etc, now we call them AI. Or further reality worlds like Surrogates or the Matrix. It's all coming true which when you think about it is really, really weird. It's like they were non religious prophets shouting warnings into the future.
I think a lot of this is because people see trends. Yesterday we were at A, then we were at B, now we are C…hmmm, if this continues I can see how we could be at D and then E and then F. So people start to project these ideas into popular culture and many of them come true because they have at their root current trends. History does tend to be fairly linear. There are moments in time when things change radically. As a believer in God, I believe these are times when He intervenes in history in dramatic ways.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
The problem is everyone asserting and trying to prove that "all men are created equal"
and when they can't, mandating that the government provide accommodations to equalize the unequal.

Even Dugin must shroud the problem in rampant individualism because there is zero probability that anyone is ever going to admit or agree with the principal that they are "not equal" . . . they are all better than you.
 
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