[POL] Angry Bush Walks Out on Media, Refuses Questions about Ken Lay

'plain o joe'

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From Capitol Hill Blue


Angry Bush Walks Out on Media, Refuses to Answer Questions About Relationship With Ken Lay
By Staff and Wire Reports
Jul 8, 2004, 16:44

A clearly-rattled President George W. Bush walked out of a media briefing Thursday, refusing to answer questions about his close relationship with indicted Enron executive Kenneth Lay, a campaign benefactor Bush nicknamed "Kenny Boy" when the two were up-and-comers in Texas.

The President, visibly upset, stomped off the stage when reporters pressed him about his relationship
with Lay and left White House press secretary Scott McClellan to deal with the questions.

It has been "quite some time" since Bush and Lay talked with each other,
McClellan said Thursday, brushing off questions about whether the two were
friends.

"He was a supporter in the past and he's someone that I would also point out
has certainly supported Democrats and Republicans in the past," McClellan said.

Lay clearly favored the GOP. He and his wife, Linda, donated $882,580 to
federal candidates from 1989-2001, according to the Center for Responsive
Politics. All but $86,470 went to Republicans.

McClellan declined to discuss the federal indictment charging Lay with a
wide-ranging scheme to deceive the public, company shareholders and
government regulators about the energy company that he founded and led to
industry prominence before its collapse.

Instead, McClellan answered questions about Lay by talking about Bush's desire to curb corporate
fraud.

"This president has worked to go after those wrongdoers and directed his administration to pursue
those who are dishonest in the boardroom," McClellan said.

"The president has made it very clear that we will not tolerate dishonesty in the boardroom. This
administration worked to uncover abuses and scandals in the corporate arena. And certainly the
president's concern is with those workers and other people who have been harmed by corporate
wrongdoing," McClellan said.

Democrat John Kerry's campaign had a different view, accusing the administration of dragging its feet
on Enron. "It was three years too late," Kerry spokeswoman Stephanie Cutter said of the Lay
indictment.

Lay's relationship with the Bush family dates from at least 1990 when he was co-chairman of former
President Bush's economic summit for industrialized nations, which was held in Houston. Lay also was
co-chairman of the host committee for the Republican National Convention when it was held in Houston
in 1992.

The Center for Public Integrity, a Washington-based nonprofit group, said the Lays had given $139,500
to George W. Bush's political campaigns over the years.

Those donations were part of $602,000 that Enron employees gave to Bush's various campaigns,
making Enron the leading political patron for Bush at the time of the company's bankruptcy in 2001.

In addition to Lay's political campaign donations, he and his wife contributed $100,000 to Bush's 2001
inauguration. Lay also was a fund-raiser for Bush, bringing in at least $100,000 for the president's 2002
campaign. That put Lay in "Pioneer" status as one of the president's top money-raisers.

© Copyright 2004 Capitol Hill Blue
 

buff

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capital hill blue....lol..

now you are really reaching...

might as well quote from dem underground...

keep spewing my lefty friend..you might catch a few fish in your net.

you guys are so funny and predictable...
 

l0kster

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$800k to GOP candidates, $600k for Bush campaign.

I'm sure Gore and the Dems had their share of high dollar corporate sponsors also.

Is it any wonder why our "officials" spend more time grubbing for money than doing their job?

Is it that surprising that Big Corporations and rich elite get the fat contracts and special tax breaks while the Middle class gets screwed?

ITs way overdue that Americans revamp our political system and break the 2-party monopoly so we don't have to choose beetween lesser of 2 evils.

Good first step: slash and cap the amount private parties can contribute to campaigns - institute public campaign financing so more 3rd-party candidates can afford to run.

shameless plug:
www.publiccampaign.org
 

rockywhy

Deceased
Didn't take me long

plain o joe said:
Buffdawg.. here's another leftist speech

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=107268




just a question here for the mod who move this...

So when this hits the main stream press, will you move it to the main page?

Was this not a news event? Or do we only post PRO Bush threads on the main board.

my, your bias is showing
Wow didn't take me long to understand that anyone that doesn't back the "Bush" camp is backing an "unexplained/alternative". So you get pushed to the board that so graciousely supposes that title. Wonder what there going to think when they figure out that Bush did the same thing to them that Kenny boy did to Enron. Oh wait we would have to change leaders first and then it's the new leaders fault, almost forgot. These will be the same people that will be jumping out of buildings from upper floors when the reality hits them. :lol: Keep it up Joe I listen even if I don't agree.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Yes, Joe...In light of recent events, I'm beginning to feel a strong bias on the part of a certain admin. Contrary to accusations I am NO fan of Kerry or Clinton but Bush gets the brunt of my anger because his administration is the one in power right now. When/if Kerry gets in office, I'll slam his actions just as hard...

Sad how misguided some are from blind devotion to a government that hasn't had the people's interest at heart for decades, sometimes I wonder if it's even worth the time and effort...

:shk:
 

fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
At least the article was posted. It doesn't sound like news. It sounds like an editorial. Angry Bush walks out on media? Funny how no main stream media reported this. Sounds like big news. Maybe the reporter from Capitol Blue was the only one who determined that Bush was angry. Very insightful.....
Second, who are they trying to smear, Ken Lay or GW? Enron spread money around to both parties. All corporations do. Should any of us be smeared by the actions of people we consider friends? I sure as hell hope not because I have known some people who have done things that I would hate to be associated with.
If you people want to do this then throw in some articles about Kerry and Hanoi Jane. Or how about associating Kerry with the dope addicts and perverts who attended his celebrity fund raiser, yesterday. How about Edwards connection to the trial lawyers? Talk about stealing money from the public...... :kk1:
 

mistaken1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
rockywhy said:
Wow didn't take me long to understand that anyone that doesn't back the "Bush" camp is backing an "unexplained/alternative". Keep it up Joe I listen even if I don't agree.

LOL People have not changed in over 6000 years of 'evolution'.
 

fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
If you human beings?
If you men or women or transgenders?
If you Bush hating liberal whiners?
If you bi-partisan posters who only rant against one party?
If you.?
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Exactly what I'm trying to say... :shk:

Even though I have stated ad nauseum how much I loathe Kerry and know for a fact, if elected, he will turn us over to UN control, just because I also know Bush is working towards the globalist agenda and point out the dangers of his administration, I immediately get lumped in with the,
If you Bush hating liberal whiners?
If you bi-partisan posters who only rant against one party?

Isn't it possible to see that there are posters here who realize it hasn't been "rule by the people" but "rule over the people" for a long time???
 

fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
Ragnarok said:
Exactly what I'm trying to say... :shk:

Even though I have stated ad nauseum how much I loathe Kerry and know for a fact, if elected, he will turn us over to UN control, just because I also know Bush is working towards the globalist agenda and point out the dangers of his administration, I immediately get lumped in with the,


Isn't it possible to see that there are posters here who realize it hasn't been "rule by the people" but "rule over the people" for a long time???

I was not lumping people into anything. By "you people" I was referring to the people who seemed to be complaining about the article being moved from the main thread. IMHO this was not a news article, but an editorial by a clearly biased organization.

I am not all that happy with Bush either but I am also a realist. The system is they system and the two parties have a stranglehold on elections. I can't bring myself to vote for a third party candidate because, as a realist, I know that Kerry gets elected.
 

atlantajack

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Fairbanks said
Enron spread money around to both parties.

From the original article
Lay clearly favored the GOP. He and his wife, Linda, donated $882,580 to
federal candidates from 1989-2001, according to the Center for Responsive
Politics. All but $86,470 went to Republicans.

That's almost 10 times as much "spread around" to the Repubs!

Nice try,
Jack :rolleyes:
 

fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
atlantajack said:
Fairbanks said
Enron spread money around to both parties.

From the original article
Lay clearly favored the GOP. He and his wife, Linda, donated $882,580 to
federal candidates from 1989-2001, according to the Center for Responsive
Politics. All but $86,470 went to Republicans.

That's almost 10 times as much "spread around" to the Repubs!

Nice try,
Jack :rolleyes:


Do you want to pick another corp.? Maybe one known to support Democrats? I don't understand the point you are trying to make. Are you saying that because Enron was crooked and donated more money to Repubs then Dems, therefore Repubs are crooked?
I wonder who the enviromental orgs. give more money too? Some of their supporters blow up buildings, destroy equipment and in a few instances have killed people. Who gets more money from trial lawyers? Pro abortion groups? NEA?
It goes both ways.

Nice try,
Bill
:shr:
 

DarkImbolc

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I don't understand the point you are trying to make. Are you saying that because Enron was crooked and donated more money to Repubs then Dems, therefore Repubs are crooked?

Lest we forget that it was Bush who refused to put a cap on the sky-rocketing energy prices in CA allowing Kenny et. al. to gouge the crap out of the population.

Come to think of it, it was a certain actor-turned-govenor that said he would persue enron, but was seen shaking hands with them later on. He was GOP if I remember correctly.

Not to mention that Enron was one of the corporations that met withe president, er, VICE president Cheney behind the closed doors of the Energy Commision.


But, you're right. Nothing to see here. Please move along in an orderly fashion... :rolleyes:
 
keep spewing my lefty friend..you might catch a few fish in your net.

"The President, visibly upset, stomped off the stage when reporters pressed him about his relationship with Lay and left White House press secretary Scott McClellan to deal with the questions."

Like that's a leftist conspiracy thing... Give me a break, it was on film and the little spoiled brat stomped off the stage... I saw it with my own eyes!

:sht:
 

fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
DarkImbolc said:
Lest we forget that it was Bush who refused to put a cap on the sky-rocketing energy prices in CA allowing Kenny et. al. to gouge the crap out of the population.

Come to think of it, it was a certain actor-turned-govenor that said he would persue enron, but was seen shaking hands with them later on. He was GOP if I remember correctly.

Not to mention that Enron was one of the corporations that met withe president, er, VICE president Cheney behind the closed doors of the Energy Commision.


But, you're right. Nothing to see here. Please move along in an orderly fashion... :rolleyes:

Oh, I forgot. The Feds control the power companies in CA. That's much different than where I live. My power company is not the United States Power Company. Who was Gov. of Calif. when this was taking place? I believe it was a Democrat. Who controlled the CA. legislature? How is it that we folk in the south don't have the same pollution regulations as the folk in CA.? I sure would think it would all be the same, since the Fed controls the energy in this country? Nothing to see here. Please move along in an orderly fashion.
Happens on both sides. Who was it that got pardoned by Clinton because of all the money donated to his campaigns and library?
 

RoseTower

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I went surfing to find info on this and all I could find is this. No article to go along with the photo other than this small paragraph:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/040708/photos_ts_afp/040708125254_jg418y7h_photo1

"US President George W. Bush (news - web sites) walks away from a briefing with the media, refusing to answer questions after he was asked about Enron and the reported indictment of former CEO Kenneth Lay, who was a close adviser and fund-raiser for Bush and his father, earning him the presidential nickname of 'Kenny Boy.'(AFP/Paul J. Richards)"
 

fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
http://news.bostonherald.com/national/view.bg?articleid=34958

Ken sure got around! CEO tied to Kerrys, too
By David R. Guarino
Read Guarino's Road to Boston Blog
Friday, July 9, 2004

President Bush may know indicted ex-Enron boss Ken Lay as ``Kenny Boy,'' but Sen. John F. Kerry [related, bio] and his millionaire wife also have past financial and personal ties to Lay's shamed energy firm, documents show.
Kerry and Teresa Heinz Kerry reported more than $250,000 in Enron stock ownership before the firm's 2003 collapse. Kerry also was forced to return a campaign contribution from an implicated Enron executive.
And Heinz Kerry served on a charity board with Lay, even after he was implicated in the alleged fraud, records show.
Kerry has railed against the Bush administration's handling of the Enron scandal on the campaign trail.
The Kerry campaign said the senator's meager ties pale in comparison to Bush's longtime friendship with and financial backing from Lay.
``George Bush and Ken Lay worked together for years, Ken Lay defrauded consumers and collected profits from it and George Bush collected a half-million dollars from Enron,'' Kerry spokesman Michael Meehan said. ``We received one check from an employee that was accused of wrongdoing and we returned the check. That speaks volumes.''
Kerry's campaign took $1,000 from an executive of Enron Wind in November 2001, a check he returned a few months later. He also took $250 from an Enron accountant in May - a check he won't return, Meehan said, because that donor hasn't been implicated in the alleged fraud.
A Heinz family trust bought between $250,000 and $500,000 of stock in December 1995, just days before Heinz Kerry announced Lay would serve as a member of the Heinz Center philanthropy, Kerry's Senate financial disclosure documents show.
The stock brought between $5,000 and $15,000 in dividends in 1996 before it was sold in 1997, the disclosure forms show.
Lay stayed on the board after Enron's collapse and a Heinz Foundation spokeswoman defended Lay in news reports amid the fraud accusations as having ``a good reputation in the environmental community.''
 

Lei

Veteran Member
JOE

Hang in there guy !

No one wanted to hear that the emperor had no clothes either. :lol:
 

brokenwings

Veteran Member
Funny, I have never seen a post about Gore that blasts him or makes fun of him put in unexplained. I see the unfairness when it comes to Bush and it makes me sick. I just shake my head and move on. No use in argueing with those who love Bush so much! :shk: :shk:
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
plain o joe said:
Buffdawg.. here's another leftist speech

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=107268




just a question here for the mod who move this...

So when this hits the main stream press, will you move it to the main page?

Was this not a news event? Or do we only post PRO Bush threads on the main board.

my, your bias is showing

Didnt seem like news to me, only an editorial on speculated reasons why he left the conference.

News would be "Bush declined to comment on Lay". Editorial goes into the speculated reasons why the writer thinks he "stormed" out. Look at the language. Its not objective. Its riddled with "slam" and negative words.
 

inskanoot

Veteran Member
T.B.2000 = Test Bed 2000?


Is there/should there be a written policy regarding USGOV involvement/access?

Sometimes the whole setup creeps me out.
 
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piggyandpeewee

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Whatever the provocation, every President reaches the boiling point occasionally due

the relentless hounding of the mass media. I think Bush has shown remarkable restraint, considering the unmerciful pelting he has to deal with on a regular basis.

Has anyone considered that he probably has more pressing matters on his mind at this point in time? Go read the latest
posts in the BS if you don't catch my drift. IMO at this juncture in human events Ken Lay is pretty small potatoes.
I imagine the President agrees. :rolleyes:
 

piggyandpeewee

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P.S. Judging from the picture the President is hardly "storming from the room".

Don't the print reporters realize that cameras are recording these events when they embellish and lie? Of course they do,
and they don't care. :shr:
 

milkydoo

Inactive
bethshaya said:
Didnt seem like news to me, only an editorial on speculated reasons why he left the conference.

News would be "Bush declined to comment on Lay". Editorial goes into the speculated reasons why the writer thinks he "stormed" out. Look at the language. Its not objective. Its riddled with "slam" and negative words.
Here's my take. If there's a better source then someone could have posted that one as well in the same thread and kept it on the main page. Until then, if Bush did in fact walk out at a press conference, that IS in fact REAL NEWS. If there is no better source, then the original would have to do and it should have remained on the main board, imo. It is the duty of the President to answer the peoples' questions. If he refuses that duty, that is a bona fide news story worthy of front page discussion.

Let's just ask ourselves for a moment: Would a similar piece on Kerry be booted to alt as well? I doubt it. It would be open season on the main board.
 

deja

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Remember I said this: They aren't done asking old Georgie about Kenny, you betcha! If this is the way he acts.......we WILL see more of it for sure. :)

People ya don't know askin Q's about yur buddie????????? Makes a cowBOY mad!

Yup, it's news, no matter where ya want to put it. Thanks Joe!
 

deja

Inactive
I forgot to mention that Lay's lawyer spoke of getting this ALL OUT IN THE AIR BEFORE the elections. Into the courts is what I assumed. Hope that happens. Give the public more info on how BIG CORPS do things. You can bet a lot of stuff will come out that they don't/didn't want US to know.
 

deja

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Just out on Drudge in red.........no link yet for an actual article.

ENRON DOCUMENTS SHOW TOM DELAY'S REDISTRICTING EFFORTS... MORE...
WASH POST PLANNING ENTIRE ABOVE-FOLD FRONT PAGE SPLASH,
NEWSROOM SOURCES TELL DRUDGE. 3,200-WORD STORY... //

DeLay requested donation come from 'combination of corporate and personal money from Enron's executives,' with the understanding that it would be partly spent on "the redistricting effort in Texas," said the e-mail to Ken Lay...

The e-mail, which surfaced in a subsequent federal probe of ENRON, is one of at least a dozen documents obtained by POST that show DeLay and his associates directed funds from corporations and Washington lobbyists to Republican campaign coffers... MORE...



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