EBOLA Saw something strange on CSPAN with panel of experts doing a knowledge transfer.

Dex

Constitutional Patriot
It was a pretty standard Q&A session with select "experts" and "select" media/science community.

The questions, comments and answers were pretty run of the mill vanilla flavor soft ball stuff. A couple of the "authorities" were knowledgeable but some of the others were just bureaucratic types from DHS and OSHA, what have you.

The most knowledgeable sounding of the panel was a Navy Medical guy who was probably CIA or Naval Intelligence. His bottom line was that there are varying opinions on how PPE should be used as well as differences of perception of transferability of the virus; the airborne thing was touch upon.

There were some good comments and questions from the audience but I got the feeling that even now the country is no where near prepared. The HC units just don't have the PPE and are wrapped in the red tape of getting it.

Anyway, the dean of GW University who was chairing the event was trying to wrap it up but ended up allowing "just one more, one more question" for this guy who seemed just itching to get up there and spew something.

He said he was from Rocky Mtn Research NSAID, had a heavy accent, hard to place Eastern European and immediately launched into a comment about how Ebola is a regulated "agent" and there were laws in place preventing him from doing "his" particular work. My impression was that he was a bio-warfare research scientist who was looking at the outbreak as a bio-weapon. He finished his short session of nearly illegible babbling by saying that it would take him "two years" to do anything.

He really had no business getting up and saying anything at all for several reasons. It seemed apparent that he was probably working on a classified project in the bio-warfare category he was talking about the 1972 treaty that is supposed to prevent nation states from even doing research but we all know they have been. I think they are allowed to research according to making vaccines and combating bio-war but the lines get blurred and the depth that they can go is limited.

This guy was really "out there" sounded like he had a secret that he could barely contain himself to keep and wasn't talking about dealing with the immediate public health issue but was maybe worried about what they could do if this epidemic is the result of a bio-war/terrorism attack or being used as a spring board for attack.

If it is indeed a weapon or is being transformed into a weapon, it changes alot of how the medical community needs to approach the outbreak and adds ramifications at the state secret level as well as national security.

If you have read this far, have completed reading my post and have any curiosity about what I'm talking about, please speak up and I will post the hasty video I took with the micro hobby camera I had handy that I grabbed to take the video of as it was being broadcast on CSPAN.

If nobody speaks up I'm not going to bother because it will take me a few minutes as well as soak up my host accounts bandwidth (134mb per viewing) and I only want to post it if anybody is actually interested.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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Well, I'm iterested. how is the sound quality? Maybe it will hit Youtube before long as well.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
If you have read this far, have completed reading my post and have any curiosity about what I'm talking about, please speak up and I will post the hasty video I took with the micro hobby camera I had handy that I grabbed to take the video of as it was being broadcast on CSPAN.

If nobody speaks up I'm not going to bother because it will take me a few minutes as well as soak up my host accounts bandwidth (134mb per viewing) and I only want to post it if anybody is actually interested.

compress it before uploading it to youtube or wherever so you don't require as much bandwidth.

Isn't CSPAN available on the net?
 

JWP

Contributing Member
If nobody speaks up I'm not going to bother because it will take me a few minutes as well as soak up my host accounts bandwidth (134mb per viewing) and I only want to post it if anybody is actually interested.

I definitely want to see it. I'll host it if needed as well; I'm not concerned about bandwidth.
 

Witness

Deceased
I think it is the very last person asking a question...he did say it would take him two years.
Go to the very end of the video. Start watching 2:39:37
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I think it is the very last person asking a question...he did say it would take him two years.
Go to the very end of the video. Start watching 2:39:37

thank you, listening to it now. Caught the part where the one guy said that the viral load of this outbreak is higher than previous outbreaks.
 

Arnina

Contributing Member
For future reference. The guy asking the last question is:

Vincent Munster, Ph.D.
photo of Vincent Munster
Chief, Virus Ecology Unit, LV

Major Areas of Research
Natural reservoirs of emerging viruses and elucidation of the underlying biotic and abiotic drivers of zoonotic and cross-species transmission events
Evolutionary dynamics of emerging viruses in the context of virus-host ecology
Modeling zoonotic and cross-species transmission of emerging viruses and the efficacy of outbreak intervention strategies

You can read all about him here: http://www.niaid.nih.gov/LabsAndResources/labs/aboutlabs/lv/virusEcology/Pages/default.aspx

On that page there is a link to his biography:

Biography
Dr. Vincent Munster received his Ph.D. in virology from Erasmus Medical Center, Rotterdam, the Netherlands, in 2006. During his Ph.D. studies, Dr. Munster studied the ecology, evolution, and pathogenesis of avian influenza viruses. He continued his training in the department of virology at the Erasmus Medical Center from 2006 to 2009, where he worked within the Center for Research on Influenza Pathogenesis and Surveillance (CRIPS) focusing on pathogenicity and human-to-human transmission of influenza A viruses. Dr. Munster joined the Laboratory of Virology as a visiting fellow in 2009 to expand his research interest in the ecology of emerging viruses to include filoviruses and henipaviruses. Dr. Munster was awarded the European Scientific Working Group on Influenza (ESWI) Best Body of Work Award for Young Scientists in 2011. In 2013, Dr. Munster established the Virus Ecology Unit as an independent tenure-track investigator. The mission of the Virus Ecology Unit is to elucidate the ecology of emerging viruses and drivers of zoonotic and cross-species transmission. The Virus Ecology Unit uses a combined field and experimental research approach and conducts research at the state-of-the-art high- and maximum-containment facilities of the Rocky Mountain Laboratories, as well as at field study sites in Africa (the Republic of the Congo, Mali) and the Caribbean (Trinidad and Tobago).

Be sure to check out his publications!

Selected Publications
Mombouli JV, Bitsindou P, Elion DOA, Grolla A, Feldmann H, Niama FR, Parra HJ, Munster VJ. Chikungunya virus outbeak, Brazzaville, Republic of Congo, 2011. Emerg Infect Dis. In press.

Munster VJ, de Wit E, Feldmann H. Pneumonia from human coronavirus in a macaque model. N Engl J Med. 2013 Apr 18;368(16):1560-2.

Herfst S, Schrauwen EJ, Linster M, Chutinimitkul S, de Wit E, Munster VJ, Sorrell EM, Bestebroer TM, Burke DF, Smith DJ, Rimmelzwaan GF, Osterhaus AD, Fouchier RA. Airborne transmission of influenza A/H5N1 virus between ferrets. Science. 2012 Jun 22;336(6088):1534-41.

de Wit E, Bushmaker T, Scott D, Feldmann H, Munster VJ. Nipah virus transmission in a hamster model. PLoS Negl Trop Dis. 2011 Dec;5(12):e1432.

Munster VJ, de Wit E, van den Brand JM, Herfst S, Schrauwen EJ, Bestebroer TM, van de Vijver D, Boucher CA, Koopmans M, Rimmelzwaan GF, Kuiken T, Osterhaus AD, Fouchier RA. Pathogenesis and transmission of swine-origin 2009 A(H1N1) influenza virus in ferrets. Science. 2009 Jul 24;325(5939):481-3.

Munster VJ, Baas C, Lexmond P, Waldenström J, Wallensten A, Fransson T, Rimmelzwaan GF, Beyer WE, Schutten M, Olsen B, Osterhaus AD, Fouchier RA. Spatial, temporal, and species variation in prevalence of influenza A viruses in wild migratory birds. PLoS Pathog. 2007 May 11;3(5):e61.

Visit PubMed for a complete publications listing.
 
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the watcher

Inactive
I won't bring the whole article, because it has tons of hyperlinks to studies etc. I will post the most alarming section, by a man the Africans call, Dr Death.

...........Top Bioweapons Expert Speaks Out on Ebola

Washington’s Blog spoke with one of America’s leading experts on the dangers of research into deadly germs, Dr. Francis Boyle.


Dr. Boyle wrote the Biological Weapons Anti-Terrorism Act of 1989, the American implementing legislation for the 1972 Biological Weapons Convention.

Dr. Boyle served on the Board of Directors of Amnesty International (1988-1992), and is a professor of international law at the University of Illinois, Champaign.

WASHINGTON’S BLOG: You said recently that laboratories in West Africa run by the Centers for Disease Control and Tulane University are doing bioweapons research. What documentary evidence do you have of that?

You mentioned that a map produced by the CDC shows where the laboratories are located on the West Coast of Africa?

DR. FRANCIS BOYLE: Yes. They’ve got one in Monrovia [the capital of Ebola-stricken Liberia] … one in Kenema, Sierra Leone [the third largest city in the Ebola-hotzone nation], which was shut down this summer because the government there believed that it was the Tulane vaccines which had set this whole thing off.

And then they have another one in Guinea, where the first case [of Ebola] was reported.


All of these are labs which do this offensive/defensive biowarfare work.

And Fort Detrick’s USAMRIID [the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute for Infectious Diseases] has also been over there. So it’s clear what’s been going on there.

CDC has a long history of doing biowarfare work. I have them doing biowarfare work for the Pentagon in Sierra Leone as early 1988...........
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/10/ebola-2.html
 
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