Tents Sleeping Pads/Mattress For Camping

Publius

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Many wanting to go camping or keep equipment for bug-out and never give any thought of what to do about sleeping on the ground and especially what to do in cold weather.

First we have the ruff it survivalist group say use pine limbs or grass and while it can make a soft bed the sticky pine sap may not be to you're liking and getting it all over you're sleeping equipment and yourself and the grass will take some time to collect enough of it to make a suitable bed, much work.

Many years ago someone came up with a closed cell foam pad and it worked well to insulate from the frozen ground and they sold millions of them and still available today, one of the problems or dislikes is, it does not provide any cushion and many don't sleep well and or wakeup stiff and sore.

Many have known about the air mattress and its been around a long time and it too works until it gets a hole in it and in cold weather it allows the cold air inside it to circulate, so it has no insulating value what soever.

About 40 years ago a company by the name of Cascade Designs came up with the idea of putting foam rubber inside an air mattress and the first Therm-A Rest self inflating air mattress was born and it worked great and had fantastic insulating value as the air inside did not move around.
Today they come in many shapes and sizes to fit the needs of the individual and they're not cheep with prices running from $50 to well over $200. My self I go with an old classic tuff workhorse the "BaseCamp" and it has an insulating Value of R 5.0 and it comes in three sizes [the weight varies on size from 2 to 3 1/2 Lbs]! Regular, Large and Extra Large and the ones I have are 1 1/2" inch thick the newer ones are 2" inch thick and you just open the valve found on the corner and it starts to self inflate and once inflated, close the valve, now if it's not firm enough you can put a few puffs of air in it or let some out for a softer cushion. To put it away to travel, just open the valve and start slowly rolling it up from the foot end until you have it fully rolled up and close the valve and put it in its stuff sack and your done.
Two of the Photos Below there a darker colored that I've had for more than 20 years and its thin light in weight intended for backpacking and work well on frozen ground but not so much cushion and not good for sleeping on your side.
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WVtreehanger

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Switched to Thermarest years back. Bought the chair accessory years back as well for the standard size. Have since purchased a couple Trail Pros and they can't be beat except for pack space. Bought the trail chair accessory for the larger sized Trail Pro as well. Works great and also fits my Trekker. So I have gone to the NeoAir Trekker as my primary--the Large is only one and a half pounds and takes up little space. The only problem is the insulation value is only about 2 in comparison to 5 on some other Thermarest products. Some complain about potential for sharp things causing holes but I mitigate that with good site selection. I'm a treehanger (hammock camper) but a Thermarest is always nice to help keep you warm 'cause hammocks are cold sleepin'. For ground dwelling (shudder) or visiting other folks and bringing my own sleeping gear, I have a Thermarest Luxurylite cot. I bought mine used (store demo) and it will cost almost a kidney but with a pad on it, it's very, very, very close to the ultimate comfort of a hammock. Gonna have to downsize this year and there will be some definite angst if I have to get rid of a Thermarest.
 

Publius

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I had two of the original camplite seen in photos as dark purple color and my son kill one of them by using it to sit on and not looking what he was placing it down on! Shale and it cut a good size slit in it to, so now he understands its to be used only inside the tent and inspect the ground before setting up the tent. Cascade Designs would not warranty that and I would not even ask. But they do come with a limited lifetime warranty for defects. We do the so called car camping and the weight of the BaseCamp regular at only 2 pounds I would not hesitate to use it for backpacking especially in cool fall or freezing winter conditions and summer as well, just lash it to the outside of the pack.

I have two Down filled sleeping bags and have used the thin Camplite for hunting camp up on Cheat Mountain thats close to Cass Railroad, and the temps can go down to 10+ to minus -5F at night and the down bags you compress the down when laying in it to nothing so it's the Therm-A Rest pad that keeping the freezing temps of the frozen ground at bey for a good nights rest.
 
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WVtreehanger

Senior Member
I got the Thermarest Ventra Down Comforter on sale which mates with our Trail Pro perfectly. You're right about down. Can't beat it for comfort, weight, compressability, and warmth. It does get a bit chilly up on Cheat but haven't been there this year. Hopefully sometime this summer. Losing the battle convincing the missus to tent camp given our age. I'm still game and have the right equipment but she wants a cabin. Can still use the sleeping gear in a cabin for greater comfort but can't beat the price for a tent camp plus there's just the feeling one has accomplished something that a cabin doesn't give.
 

Sportsman

Veteran Member
Extra wide, extra long Thermarest pad was one of the best camping gear investments I've made. Bought one about 15 years ago to replace various closed cell foam pads and air mattresses.

Still using it when the camp trip involves a motorcycle or walking. It always gives me a good night's sleep, comfortable and warm. If I had to buy a replacement, I'd probably buy a knock-off since that thing was expensive back in the day, I bet they are priced like gold now.

But if we're doing it out of the truck in a big tent though, then the queen sized air mattress is the way we go. About a foot thick, plenty of room for two people, and there's the 12 volt pump to fill it with air. I think ours is a Coleman brand. Had it for about 5 or 6 years.

Both of these have a patch kit duct taped to the carry case.

~Sportsman
 

Publius

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For anyone wanting to know where to buy these sleeping pads and there are many other brands to pick from.

Campmor and they have been around a while and their out of N.J. and my self have bought a number of items from them over the years. http://www.campmor.com

You can go to the Cascade Designs website and I think they have a dealer locater. http://cascadedesigns.com
 
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