Celestial Space Weather/Sun Spot
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The Chill of Solar Minimum.
The sun is entering a deepest Solar Minimum of the Space Age, and Earth's upper atmosphere is responding. Data from NASA's TIMED SATELLITE show that the themosphere (the uppermost layer of air around our planet) is cooling and shrinking, literally decreasing the radius of the atmosphere. If current trands continue, the thermosphere could set a Space Age record for cold in the months ahead.
The sun is entering a deepest Solar Minimum of the Space Age, and Earth's upper atmosphere is responding. Data from NASA's TIMED SATELLITE show that the themosphere (the uppermost layer of air around our planet) is cooling and shrinking, literally decreasing the radius of the atmosphere. If current trands continue, the thermosphere could set a Space Age record for cold in the months ahead.
The Global Warming scare is a power grab intended to bilk-rob you of you life earnings and control what you can have, where you live and what you can or cannot do.
Martinhouse
Deceased
Thanks, Publius
It seems the later of the two Sunspots faded away and the first one is also said to be fading and we will not know if it has until about 2:00AM to 3:00Am tonight when we get the updates on this ongoing Grand Solar Minima.
rolenrock
Senior Member
I don't exactly know how but have a feeling the global warming goals of controlling us is intended to be used to bring in Agenda 21 or whatever they are calling it now.
The above is from 10-02-2018 and yeah October of this year and in my area we have seen two hard frost's and a number of days below normal temps, as of late they are now saying to expect and early snow for my location, I'm told that Snowshoe Ski resort way south of me had two inches of snow this past week end. Much talk of lots of snow and what I see with all the rain we have been getting as number potential ice storms hitting my area this year.
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Martinhouse
Deceased
Publius, thanks for the added information. It's good to know what's happening all over the country. Here in north central Arkansas, we have not quite has a frost yet, but I did cover my tomatoes last Sunday night just in case, since predicted low was 36 and we are often lower than predicted out here in the hills.
So far, except for rain at inconvenient times, we've had fairly decent weather right here where I am.
So far, except for rain at inconvenient times, we've had fairly decent weather right here where I am.
We have just gone another 7 spotless days and 9 more spotless day we will have racked up one half the year without sunspots.
We have just gone 16 days without sunspots and now back up to 59% of the year 2018 with no sunspots.
Also we have offishly reached 182 spotless days and thats one half of the year of no sunspots.
Update! We have just gone a three week stretch without sunspots making it 187 spotless days for the year.
How long it will go spotless is anyones best guess and without a doubt we are in a deep grand solar minima.
Much talk in some circles they are worried and that we are going to get progressively colder for the next ten years and it will have a serious effect on food supplies.
How long it will go spotless is anyones best guess and without a doubt we are in a deep grand solar minima.
Much talk in some circles they are worried and that we are going to get progressively colder for the next ten years and it will have a serious effect on food supplies.
TxGal
Day by day
Thanks Publius! It does indeed seem that more and more info is coming in to support what I would consider a very deep GSM. We're very concerned about prolonged and long term effects on the food supply. Watching long term food supply companies for signs of increased purchases. When it's gone, it's gone, at least until the next growing season. And therein lies a major problem - increasingly bad growing seasons year after year.
Best some of us can do is prepare for what looks to be coming down the road at us. buy or making green house's and switching the kind of foods that can be grown in cooler temps like cole crops, peas and squash and gourds some root crops too.
There are apple verities that will produce fruit in shorter seasons and cooler environments. Even livestock will have to be taken into account that can endure and survive a long and cold winter like Scottish highland cattle, sheep and chickens too will have to be selected for colder winters.
Big corporate agra business will not like this and will try anything to thwart this growing trend activity at the private level as they see it cuts into their mega million dollar profit's, poor babies they will have to get by on a few million le$$ each year.
von Koehler
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Anyone grown out a Red Wattle breed of pig? A couple of Youtube homesteader comparison videos favor taste tests have rated them highly. Their bacon is supposed to be a nice meaty favor.
von Koehler
von Koehler
JF&P
Deceased
Publius is right folks...beware the United Nations....they are the tip of the spear for the deep state.
Freeholder
This too shall pass.
Publius, thank you for continuing to keep track of the sun spots and post about them (or the lack thereof). Hope you and yours have a good Thanksgiving Day!
Kathleen
Kathleen
TxGal
Day by day
https://www.cdapress.com/randy_mann/20181126/sunspot_activity_is_non-existent
Sunspot activity is non-existent
November 26, 2018 at 5:00 am |
One of the indicators that Cliff and I look at when determining long-range forecasts, especially for the winter seasons are sunspots, or storms on the sun. When the sun is going through an active cycle, there will be many sunspots, which can trigger solar flares that can ultimately create disruptions with satellite communications as well as increase the Earth’s temperature. However, when the number of solar storms decrease, then we could see a drop of our planet’s temperature, as was the case in 2007 and 2008.
The number of sunspots, or storms on the sun, have now become few and far between. From Oct. 18 through Nov. 12, there were no sunspots reported on the sun. Then there was minimal activity beginning on Nov. 13 that continued through the 19th, before returning to zero once again.
We are currently in sun’s cycle of a “solar minima.” Forecasters expect this current sunspot cycle, which swings like a pendulum between high and low sunspot numbers every 11 years, to reach its low point around 2019 to 2020.
“We are in a cooling trend,” said Martin Mllynczk of NASA’s Langley Research Center in the September issue of the Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics. Based on their data, if the current low sun activity continues for at least the next several years, it could set a space-age record for cold.
The data goes on to state that the new NASA findings are in line with studies released by UC-San Diego and Northumbria University in Great Britain. Both predicted a grand solar minimum in coming decades due to predicted lower sunspot activity. If this were to occur, these conditions could be similar to ones reported in the mid-17th and early 18th Century, known as the Maunder Minimum.
Between 1645 and 1715, there were very little sunspots, or solar storms. During those 70 years of the Maunder Minimum, the face of the sun was nearly blank of sunspots and broke away from its normal 11-year cycle. In one 30-year period, astronomers only observed approximately 50 sunspots, compared to a more typical 40,000 to 50,000 solar storms.
That time in history was also called “The Little Ice Age” as Europe was dealing with extreme cold and the Thames River in London froze solid. They even held winter fairs on the ice. Glaciers also advanced in the Alps and the northern sea ice expanded. By the early 18th Century, for reasons no one understands, the sun returned to its familiar 11-year sunspot cycle.
Prior to that period of extreme cold was the Medieval Warm Period (approximately 800-1300 A.D.). The sun was relatively active in terms of sunspot activity. It was warm enough to allow the mighty Vikings to colonize a lush, verdant Greenland. Britain was also a wine-producing country. Tomatoes, grapes and other weather-sensitive plants grew wild in now frigid Labrador in northeastern Canada.
There may be a correlation between the lack of sunspots and our weather. In 2007-08, sunspot activity was practically non-existent. The big decrease in solar activity was blamed, at least in part, for the harsh winter of 2007-08 across our region and other parts of the northern U.S. In Coeur d’Alene, Cliff measured an all-time record 172.9 inches of snow for that season. The following year was also a big one for snow as 145.6 inches was measured.
Since we’re coming into a new “solar minima” cycle, it’s uncertain if this one will end in the early 2020s and how big of a rebound in sunspot activity we’ll see in as we get toward the mid 2020s. Based on the low activity and the possibility of a strong cooler than normal La Nina sea-surface temperature pattern, Cliff says there is a chance for big snows, perhaps up to 200 inches in one season in Coeur d’Alene, during the winter of 2019-20 or 2020-21.
In terms of our local weather, the big ridge of high pressure that has kept much of the West Coast much drier than normal has finally weakened and allowing moisture in from the Pacific. Much-needed rainfall did fall across California over the Thanksgiving holiday weekend, which greatly helped the horrible fire situation. Although, the rainfall is greatly needed, too much moisture in a short period of time will likely lead to mudslides.
Here in North Idaho, above-normal moisture totals are expected as more storms from the Pacific Ocean should bring more rain and snow to our area. With warmer-than-normal sea-surface temperatures across much of the Pacific Ocean, air masses should also be milder as we’ll likely see more rain than snow in the lower elevations over the next several weeks. However, it’s always a temperature thing in Coeur d’Alene and a few degrees colder would make a difference and change the rain to snow.
Despite the forecast for a milder winter, there is still a chance that we’ll have a fourth year in a row with a white Christmas. As I’ve mentioned in previous columns, Cliff discovered that when we have three years in a row with a white Christmas, there has always been a fourth.
Sunspot activity is non-existent
November 26, 2018 at 5:00 am |
One of the indicators that Cliff and I look at when determining long-range forecasts, especially for the winter seasons are sunspots, or storms on the sun. When the sun is going through an active cycle, there will be many sunspots, which can trigger solar flares that can ultimately create disruptions with satellite communications as well as increase the Earth’s temperature. However, when the number of solar storms decrease, then we could see a drop of our planet’s temperature, as was the case in 2007 and 2008.
The number of sunspots, or storms on the sun, have now become few and far between. From Oct. 18 through Nov. 12, there were no sunspots reported on the sun. Then there was minimal activity beginning on Nov. 13 that continued through the 19th, before returning to zero once again.
We are currently in sun’s cycle of a “solar minima.” Forecasters expect this current sunspot cycle, which swings like a pendulum between high and low sunspot numbers every 11 years, to reach its low point around 2019 to 2020.
“We are in a cooling trend,” said Martin Mllynczk of NASA’s Langley Research Center in the September issue of the Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics. Based on their data, if the current low sun activity continues for at least the next several years, it could set a space-age record for cold.
The data goes on to state that the new NASA findings are in line with studies released by UC-San Diego and Northumbria University in Great Britain. Both predicted a grand solar minimum in coming decades due to predicted lower sunspot activity. If this were to occur, these conditions could be similar to ones reported in the mid-17th and early 18th Century, known as the Maunder Minimum.
Between 1645 and 1715, there were very little sunspots, or solar storms. During those 70 years of the Maunder Minimum, the face of the sun was nearly blank of sunspots and broke away from its normal 11-year cycle. In one 30-year period, astronomers only observed approximately 50 sunspots, compared to a more typical 40,000 to 50,000 solar storms.
That time in history was also called “The Little Ice Age” as Europe was dealing with extreme cold and the Thames River in London froze solid. They even held winter fairs on the ice. Glaciers also advanced in the Alps and the northern sea ice expanded. By the early 18th Century, for reasons no one understands, the sun returned to its familiar 11-year sunspot cycle.
Prior to that period of extreme cold was the Medieval Warm Period (approximately 800-1300 A.D.). The sun was relatively active in terms of sunspot activity. It was warm enough to allow the mighty Vikings to colonize a lush, verdant Greenland. Britain was also a wine-producing country. Tomatoes, grapes and other weather-sensitive plants grew wild in now frigid Labrador in northeastern Canada.
There may be a correlation between the lack of sunspots and our weather. In 2007-08, sunspot activity was practically non-existent. The big decrease in solar activity was blamed, at least in part, for the harsh winter of 2007-08 across our region and other parts of the northern U.S. In Coeur d’Alene, Cliff measured an all-time record 172.9 inches of snow for that season. The following year was also a big one for snow as 145.6 inches was measured.
Since we’re coming into a new “solar minima” cycle, it’s uncertain if this one will end in the early 2020s and how big of a rebound in sunspot activity we’ll see in as we get toward the mid 2020s. Based on the low activity and the possibility of a strong cooler than normal La Nina sea-surface temperature pattern, Cliff says there is a chance for big snows, perhaps up to 200 inches in one season in Coeur d’Alene, during the winter of 2019-20 or 2020-21.
In terms of our local weather, the big ridge of high pressure that has kept much of the West Coast much drier than normal has finally weakened and allowing moisture in from the Pacific. Much-needed rainfall did fall across California over the Thanksgiving holiday weekend, which greatly helped the horrible fire situation. Although, the rainfall is greatly needed, too much moisture in a short period of time will likely lead to mudslides.
Here in North Idaho, above-normal moisture totals are expected as more storms from the Pacific Ocean should bring more rain and snow to our area. With warmer-than-normal sea-surface temperatures across much of the Pacific Ocean, air masses should also be milder as we’ll likely see more rain than snow in the lower elevations over the next several weeks. However, it’s always a temperature thing in Coeur d’Alene and a few degrees colder would make a difference and change the rain to snow.
Despite the forecast for a milder winter, there is still a chance that we’ll have a fourth year in a row with a white Christmas. As I’ve mentioned in previous columns, Cliff discovered that when we have three years in a row with a white Christmas, there has always been a fourth.
Trying to find some updates to this ^^^ and all I can only find the original article and a pile of stuff written by the paid off global warming advocates that try and work the CO2 thing into it.
I guess I have to give it more time and two months is not enough.
We're in a six day stretch of spotless sun and the spotless count is up to 200 days for the year 2018 without sunspots.
Keep in mind there are 365 days in a year and we still have 29 days left to the end of the year. Also this year was a continuation of deep solar minima from 2017 and what 2019 will be like has yet to be seen, but right now it does not look good. Many are saying this will be an ongoing grand solar minima for many years to come and a few willing to risk saying this will continue getting worse until to the year 2050 (30 years).
Keep in mind there are 365 days in a year and we still have 29 days left to the end of the year. Also this year was a continuation of deep solar minima from 2017 and what 2019 will be like has yet to be seen, but right now it does not look good. Many are saying this will be an ongoing grand solar minima for many years to come and a few willing to risk saying this will continue getting worse until to the year 2050 (30 years).
TxGal
Day by day
Wow....thanks for continuing to post this info, clearly things are not looking good. This is very, very important information.
Freeholder
This too shall pass.
I think that was basically the conclusion that Valentina Zharkova and her team have come to.
Kathleen
Kathleen
TxGal
Day by day
That was my thought, too. More and more science seems to be coming together and pointing in the same direction.
Gingergirl
Veteran Member
Publius, thanks for the update.
Seems the count and ratio for spotless days is changing fast.
Seems the count and ratio for spotless days is changing fast.
That one micro sized sunspot lingered for a while and then we have another pop up out of nowhere that only lasted a day or two.
So now we're back to blank sun again and day one on a new string of spotless days.
We are at 205 spotless days and 59% of the year without sunspots, we were up to 60% but that last two sun spots ran it in the other direction.
Yesterday we had a new Sunspot show up and I did not report here right away and it did what I expected it faded away.
The spotless day count is now 207 days and holding at 59% of the year without Sunspots.
watching this happen this year and know most of these sunspots they are counting as Sunspots would not have been seen 400 years ago during the last Grand Solar Minima and that being so we are in a deep Grand Solar Minima and just how long this will continue is rally anyones best guess but we can look into past history and find these events can go on for many years and 30 to 40 even 60 years has happened before. Over time and after many of these cycles will eventually come to a major life changing ice age that can last for thousands of years.
The spotless day count is now 207 days and holding at 59% of the year without Sunspots.
watching this happen this year and know most of these sunspots they are counting as Sunspots would not have been seen 400 years ago during the last Grand Solar Minima and that being so we are in a deep Grand Solar Minima and just how long this will continue is rally anyones best guess but we can look into past history and find these events can go on for many years and 30 to 40 even 60 years has happened before. Over time and after many of these cycles will eventually come to a major life changing ice age that can last for thousands of years.