Ted Cruz’s Father: My Son “Anointed” To “Take Control of Society”..

Be Well

may all be well
http://theconservativetreehouse.com...r-my-son-anointed-to-take-control-of-society/

Posted on January 17, 2016 by sundance [plenty of embedded links]

We have previously outlined the approach the Karl Rove/Lee Atwater GOPe types will use to take down Ted Cruz. –HERE– Democrats would also use a similar approach if they ever had the need. Senator Cruz personifies their ideal opponent.

Most of Ted Cruz supporters are severely religious, and/or they are part of the financial enterprises surrounding religion. As a direct consequence both elements are intensely committed to avoid vetting him. This head-in-sand approach presents a serious issue – when they don’t confront the problems they’re set up for catastrophic failure.

The approach of “proselytizing as an electoral strategy” will bring money from intensely religious followers – but it can never win a broad based election. The following article from 2013 highlights how the GOPe will bring down Cruz as soon as his usefulness is expired.

[2013 – TEXAS] In a sermon last year at an Irving, Texas, megachurch that helped elect Ted Cruz to the United States Senate, Cruz’ father Rafael Cruz indicated that his son was among the evangelical Christians who are anointed as “kings” to take control of all sectors of society, an agenda commonly referred to as the “Seven Mountains” mandate, and “bring the spoils of war to the priests”, thus helping to bring about a prophesied “great transfer of wealth”, from the “wicked” to righteous gentile believers.

[video, below: excerpts from Rafael Cruz sermon, and from the July 2013 anointing of Texas U.S. Senator Ted Cruz]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNa5w9js48s&feature=youtu.be

[…] Discussion of the now-notorious speech by Rafael Cruz has missed the fact that Ted Cruz was subsequently blessed and anointed by prominent dominionist pastors, in effect as a “king” in the political/governmental sphere, at a special blessing ceremony at the Marriott Hotel in Des Moines, Iowa, at a July 19th-20th 2013 rally designed to draw pastors into politics.

But in a very real, mundane sense Ted Cruz has already helped deliver hundreds of millions of dollars, or more, to the evangelical right. Cruz’ past service – as a “king” who brought “spoils to the priests” – is a matter of established record; as I revealed in a prior story, no less than a top adviser to President George W. Bush has stated that in 1999 Ted Cruz played a major role in helping the Bush for President campaign lock down the conservative evangelical vote in the 2000 election.

One can interpret the “great transfer of wealth” — predicted by Ted Cruz’ father Rafael Cruz, and by Pastor Larry Huch, who threw his Texas megachurch’s considerable heft behind the 2012 Cruz for Senate campaign — in magical terms, sure.

But Ted Cruz’ apparently notable role in getting George W. Bush into the presidency led in turn to Bush’s “Faith Based Initiative” – that continues to this day under two successive Obama administrations and which, during the Bush years, funneled billions of dollars to churches and institutions associated with the religious right.

In other words, the “great transfer of wealth” is about more than wishful thinking. It’s about an ongoing effort, by leaders and institutions of the evangelical right, to gradually gobble up the secular sphere of government. (read more)

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This Raphael/Ted Cruz approach at garnering both “influence and affluence” is similar to how Glenn Beck changed his media-approach and began focusing heavily on religion. Their ongoing relationship is not coincidental and is a profound liability if Cruz was intent on winning a presidential election. Common sense is needed here in large doses.

Beck showcases his choice to use religion as a financial tool with ruses and schemes like the “Soccer Ball and Teddy Bear” outreach to the illegal alien children nonsense in the summer of 2014. This year he’s trying the same approach with his “Save the Christian Syrian” program. Both programs supported by Ted Cruz.

In 2014 many people were wondering why Ted Cruz would get involved with Glenn Beck in the insufferable Obama-created UAC “Humanitarian Crisis” ploy to benefit influxes of illegal aliens. The answer then, as now, was clearly money – but many did not want to see it at the time.

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However, you’ll note that on each fundraiser (UAC and Syrian Christians) as soon a sunlight changes public opinion – Beck drops the activity, ie. fundraising.

Fundraising – it’s all about fundraising. Behind every program, process, maneuver, etc you’ll find the commonality of money or the quest for “affluence”.

[…] In a sermon last year at an Irving, Texas, megachurch that helped elect Ted Cruz to the United States Senate, Cruz’ father Rafael Cruz indicated that his son was among the evangelical Christians who are anointed as “kings” to take control of all sectors of society, an agenda commonly referred to as the “Seven Mountains” mandate, and “bring the spoils of war to the priests”, thus helping to bring about a prophesied “great transfer of wealth”, from the “wicked” to righteous gentile believers. (read more)​

Really long article linked:

http://www.talk2action.org/story/20..._t o_Bring_The_Spoils_Of_War_To_The_Priests_

Again, honesty and common sense. This is creepy stuff right here, even for those who are devout faith-based Christians…..
 

Be Well

may all be well
I wonder how many of the religious based organizations that got huge government $$$$ to take care of the migrant invasion are connection to this type of religious sect. Could Cruz' very recent "we can't deport them/open borders/giving teddy bears to invaders' children" be connected in some way? BTW the comments below this article are well worth reading.
 

Be Well

may all be well
Oh, it was posted on The Conservative Treehouse twp days ago. Lock it/move it/delete it as you deem fit. I'd seen bits and pieces sort about this but not all together.
 

paul d

Veteran Member
Well done! A Cruz AND Beck hit piece.

Keep looking and you'll find the Cruz, Beck, Hitler, Lucifer article. That will show 'em, you betcha.
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane
Most of Ted Cruz supporters are severely religious, and/or they are part of the financial enterprises surrounding religion. As a direct consequence both elements are intensely committed to avoid vetting him. This head-in-sand approach presents a serious issue – when they don’t confront the problems they’re set up for catastrophic failure.

Other than on this board, I don't converse with any Cruz supporters so the description of "severely religious" may be unfair. I do think that people of faith who are supporting Cruz and also Carson are so used to being abused in discussions (aren't we all) that any attempt to point out problems with the Cruz candidacy are seen as attacks on them and on Christianity in general.

The comment about the financial enterprises is fair. Even Marvin Olasky who coined the phrase "Compassionate Conservatism" was alarmed at how the Bush administration was using government monies as a sort of patronage system. The Dominionism theology of the Cruzes plays right into that model.

There are going to be a lot of sharp elbows thrown in the next several weeks. One side is going to get hurt badly because of the passion of the supporters. I simply pray that there will be healing at the end.
 

Be Well

may all be well
I noticed the phrase "severely religious" as well and it certainly is loaded. What to me is damning is the connection between belief and milking government money in the name of religious belief.
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
This sentence is REALLY scarey! And what's even scarier is Cruz believes he's that king.

In a sermon last year at an Irving, Texas, megachurch that helped elect Ted Cruz to the United States Senate, Cruz’ father Rafael Cruz indicated that his son was among the evangelical Christians who are anointed as “kings” to take control of all sectors of society, an agenda commonly referred to as the “Seven Mountains” mandate, and “bring the spoils of war to the priests
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
This sentence is REALLY scarey! And what's even scarier is Cruz believes he's that king.

In a sermon last year at an Irving, Texas, megachurch that helped elect Ted Cruz to the United States Senate, Cruz’ father Rafael Cruz indicated that his son was among the evangelical Christians who are anointed as “kings” to take control of all sectors of society, an agenda commonly referred to as the “Seven Mountains” mandate, and “bring the spoils of war to the priests

And this is why (even though I am one of the 'severely religious' inasmuch as I am wholly committed to serving my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ) I will not vote for Ted Cruz. There are some good things about him, but no matter how much good there was, this one utterly false doctrine would turn me against him.

Kathleen
 

Foothiller

Veteran Member
Cruz = FRAUD

Cruz = willing tool for the PTB. The same people backing Clinton, and the rest of the R field save one.

Here's a link to some of Teddy Bear's most recent flip flopping (ie promises at campaign rallies do not equal what he says while he's on the job, making laws -- topics: amnesty, free trade, legal immigrants, and of course muslim refugees).

https://youtu.be/6VckRA4tYFo

4 minutes.

It's footage, all obtained from public record of Ted calling for more surveillance, more H1Bs, more amnesty, and after 2 minutes I turned it off.

Because it is exactly what I said he is.

He's a false candidate, as was Obama and Bush before him. Sweet talk half the voters, then get into office and do exactly the opposite of what was promised.

No nation builiding! If you ilke your doctor you can keep your doctor!

Cruz: No mohameddans! (to the campaign rally -- but in chambers he wants to welcome more -- watch the video).

He digs his own grave.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
So Ted Cruz is against ethanol subsidies while Trump and Palin are for them.

Tell me again, who's the crony capitalist?? Actually the term a lot of news stories are using is redneck crony capitalism in regard to corn subsidies for ethanol.



One more time. You are a fool if you believe any politician is in it to serve the country.
It's all about power. Never forget that.
 

Silent Knight

Inactive
Ted Cruz - National Security Forum in Fort Mill, SC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyDBnrwmbGs

Hosted by the Americans for Peace, Prosperity, and Security, South Carolina Chapter, Senator Ted Cruz speaks on National Security and answers questions on what he intends to do to keep America safe.

Topics discussed: Terrorism, politics, US presidential candidate, Islam, Muslims, immigration, Mexican border, build the wall, Israel, Mexico, and more

SOURCE: https://www.morningstartv.com/oak-initiative/2016-01-16/ted-cruz-national-security-forum
 

FREEBIRD

Has No Life - Lives on TB
"One more time. You are a fool if you believe any politician is in it to serve the country.
It's all about power. Never forget that."


THIS^^^^^^^
 

Be Well

may all be well
So Ted Cruz is against ethanol subsidies while Trump and Palin are for them.

Tell me again, who's the crony capitalist?? Actually the term a lot of news stories are using is redneck crony capitalism in regard to corn subsidies for ethanol.



One more time. You are a fool if you believe any politician is in it to serve the country.
It's all about power. Never forget that.

I don't like ethanol subsidies. I don't like politicians getting huge $$$$$ from big oil producers. I want perfection. Will I get it? No. So I look at the pros and cons and figure out which one is the least shit drenched.
 

TidesofTruth

Veteran Member
Even if it were true . . .

Jacob's son Joseph said this type of thing to his brothers. While it was true his brothers hated him and sold him into slavery over it.

And his brethren said to him, Shalt thou indeed reign over us? or shalt thou indeed have dominion over us? And they hated him yet the more for his dreams, and for his words. - Gen 7:38


Not Smart
 

Be Well

may all be well
Ted Cruz = Lucy and the football, one more time.

And the joke is that Charlie Brown always falls for it anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddmXM-96-no

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ETA- severely religious

There's a lot of depth and breadth in that little phrase.

I think a lot of us Charlie Browns do not trust Lucy any more, not even a pinch. Yeah, that phrase was not very nice. Severely to me means fanatics who want to force their version down others' throats using ugly means, starting with forceful words and ending with deadly force. The Dominionists which clearly Cruz is a follower of do fall in that category.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
I think a lot of us Charlie Browns do not trust Lucy any more, not even a pinch. Yeah, that phrase was not very nice. Severely to me means fanatics who want to force their version down others' throats using ugly means, starting with forceful words and ending with deadly force. The Dominionists which clearly Cruz is a follower of do fall in that category.

I do agree with this ^^^
I don't trust any of them because they are politicians, but I trust the ones who say that are on a mission from God even less
 

Oreally

Right from the start
ahh, i think it doesn't matter. odds are trump is going to be the nominee, cruz will settle for a place in the administration, and trump will pick a v.p. acceptable to GOP establishment, like scott walker .
 

cuz1961

Membership Revoked
"The Dominionists which clearly Cruz is a follower of do fall in that category. "

really ?,,, show me where

ted has stated

he was a dominionist or spouted dominionist doctrine ,,

i have not seen or heard anything from ted,

(and you have no idea how far back i have at
personal risk fought tooth and nail against the
health and wealth doctrines,,, i can smell it from
miles away !)

that remotely suggests ted is a health/wealther
dominionist

my doctrine isnt that of my fathers,

so others and your 'logic'
that a sons doctrine is the same as his fathers
doesnt quite hold water,,,

his dad can believe anything he wants,, doesnt mean
ted agrees,,,

this falls under the definition of 'Gossip" it seems.

hit piece this is , full of misrepresentations and spin

you sure are trusting of the media
 

cuz1961

Membership Revoked
oh,, and while im at it,,

you forgot to include this little tidbit from your link
http://www.talk2action.org/story/20...ot_to_Bring_The_Spoils_Of_War_To_The_Priests_

While that part of the video received considerable mockery from mainstream media, few seemed to notice a short speech by Muthee,

which preceded

the blessing and anointing of Palin.


In the nakedly dominionist speech, Thomas Muthee - a close colleague of New Apostolic Reformation kingpin C. Peter Wagner - called upon believers to "invade" and "infiltrate" seven leading sectors of society:

So in a moment if you do not mind, I'll ask, you know, even before I go to do this thing, you know, I'll ask Sarah, would you mind to come please? Would you mind? Come, please. Let's all stand up, and let's hold hands all over this house. Come, Pastor, come.

[Sarah Palin joins Muthee and two Alaska pastors onstage]

so if this whole thing condemns cruz,,,
the same brush can be used to condemn sarah (i like still sarah anyways)
and condemn trump , cuz you know,,, hes hanging with dominionists

no wonder you left that sarah part unmentioned /-)
 

kiwiapsa

Contributing Member
A theocracy of any stripe is a ludicrous idea. I'm a political conservative and believe in the fundamental doctrines of Biblical scripture. And, I have learned that people cannot be forced to believe or practice Christianity. Only the Holy Spirit can change a person's nature so that they desire to serve Christ. The doctrines of Dominionism (the seven mountains mandate) have no basis in the Bible and are false teachings. I won't go into all the reasons why and cause a thread drift. When I found out what his father teaches and how Dominionists have tried to tie themselves to Ted Cruz a huge red flag went up. Opposition research will certainly try to establish that his campaign is an attempt by the 'religious right' to take over America. If Cruz does embrace this movement, or doesn't distance himself from it, then his critics will be right in this case. Because that movement is not shy about their objectives to set up a theocracy within their seven mountains of our American culture and institutions. I certainly believe that Christians should have an equal voice at the table of public opinion, run for public office, and try to influence our nation with our presence. But, Jesus made absolutely no mandate to set up Christian kingdoms through secular institutions. Men who seek power to rule over others have that desire.
 

Be Well

may all be well
ahh, i think it doesn't matter. odds are trump is going to be the nominee, cruz will settle for a place in the administration, and trump will pick a v.p. acceptable to GOP establishment, like scott walker .

I seriously doubt Trump will do anything to placate the est. Rs. Seriously doubt it. I think a mil. person and I'm hopgin for Allen West...
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
Trump is a patriot first......and he realises that if he is no longer able to be President (getting ahead of myself), he would still want someone with his own business acumen and principles to carry on what he had started.

No sense in having a VP succeed you if he/she was going to change direction from what you had started.
 

Lavender

Veteran Member
There is only one thing I am sure of in this primary...I do not trust any of the candidates. I have come to the decision that they are ALL flat out so full of it that it is coming out their ears.....IMHO
 

cuz1961

Membership Revoked
i watched thsee vids and read the links,,,

wow,,, dominion theology adherents,,

( who btw,from what cruz's dad and that one preacher said,,are not pretribbers,

but post tribbers or amillennialismists

[DOMINIONISM: AMILLENNIALISM ON STEROIDS ]

since they mentioned the 3 1/2 year time frame but that is a whole other can of worms,, i do find it interesting that they share
the same no pre trib doctrine as some of those bashing cruz for some of his fathers doctrines,,
so since they have that in common it means they are dominionists too by the logic this post takes ),

i dont agree with all dominionist doctrine,,, but i do agree
with them that Christ is the Son of God, and Salvation is by
Grace through Faith,

So it is plain that not all Christians agree on all doctrine.
Does not mean they are not Christians.

The vids ,,, i didnt see ted on stage with the preachers that were
spouting dominionists theology,,,

i didnt hear ted spouting dominionists theology anywhere on any of those clips

what i saw were edited clips ,, from different times and venues,, strung together
to put the onus of one, teds dads beliefs,, onto another,,, ted himself.

what i did see ,,, was Christians praying for an anointing
and blessing on ted , at what looked like the national prayer breakfast or another Christian gathering,,

see nothing wrong with that.

but not at the dominionist church.

what i did hear ted say at the dominionist church,
was that he was against gay marriage
and the irs

and i dont find that evil

he said nothing about dominionists doctrine at that dominionists church

if he had im sure they would have included that clip

but since they didnt ,,

think its fair to say ted never
spouted the dominionists doctrines,,,,

did he attend their church ? did he speak there ?
yes,,

ted speaks with a large numer of different denominations
all of which may and do have different doctrines,

maybe ted is just talking to Christians
not planning on taking over the world.

was ted prayed over for anointing and blessing ?
yes,,, but that wasnt for the taking over the world

or at the dominionists church,,,

it was at the other venue,,, lots of Christians pray for anointing and blessing
for themselves and others.

i did notice a lot of anti Christian spin against
Christian opposition to same sex marriage in some of the vids ad articles linked though,
and alot of secular no religion allowed in the political sphere anti Christian spin,

, interesting that that is overlooked, condoned ?,
in the material used to try and make ted look bad

i could be wrong,,

ted didnt say he WASNT a dominionists intent
on putting the whole world under his boot,,,

but this post doesnt convince me of that
he is

if you think im wrong
,,, pray for me .
well,,, pray for me anyways,,,

cuz im still voting for cruz

and
after hearing the clip yesterday of trump

saying cruz was worse
than hillery

im not so sure i trust dons judgment anymore and am
leary of voting for him should don get the nomination
instead of ted.

/
 

Oreally

Right from the start
I seriously doubt Trump will do anything to placate the est. Rs. Seriously doubt it. I think a mil. person and I'm hopgin for Allen West...

ah, but how can the author of "the art of the deal", forgo all the lessons in that book in his pursuit of the biggest deal of all?

and, although i think walker is a dork, having him in a v.p. would be just politics . . . which game trump is now playing.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
A theocracy of any stripe is a ludicrous idea. I'm a political conservative and believe in the fundamental doctrines of Biblical scripture. And, I have learned that people cannot be forced to believe or practice Christianity. Only the Holy Spirit can change a person's nature so that they desire to serve Christ. The doctrines of Dominionism (the seven mountains mandate) have no basis in the Bible and are false teachings. I won't go into all the reasons why and cause a thread drift. When I found out what his father teaches and how Dominionists have tried to tie themselves to Ted Cruz a huge red flag went up. Opposition research will certainly try to establish that his campaign is an attempt by the 'religious right' to take over America. If Cruz does embrace this movement, or doesn't distance himself from it, then his critics will be right in this case. Because that movement is not shy about their objectives to set up a theocracy within their seven mountains of our American culture and institutions. I certainly believe that Christians should have an equal voice at the table of public opinion, run for public office, and try to influence our nation with our presence. But, Jesus made absolutely no mandate to set up Christian kingdoms through secular institutions. Men who seek power to rule over others have that desire.
Well stated...
 

Be Well

may all be well
ah, but how can the author of "the art of the deal", forgo all the lessons in that book in his pursuit of the biggest deal of all?

and, although i think walker is a dork, having him in a v.p. would be just politics . . . which game trump is now playing.

But in order win, Trump doesn't need to placate establishment anyone, he needs to appeal to voters, and his appeal is so broad, wide and deep, and increasing, that choosing a stiff like Walker will do no good with votesr. And "deal" to Trump means "Trump gets what he wants".
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
Ted Cruz’s Father: My Son “Anointed” To “Take Control of Society”..

How nice for him ...
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
ah, but how can the author of "the art of the deal", forgo all the lessons in that book in his pursuit of the biggest deal of all?

and, although i think walker is a dork, having him in a v.p. would be just politics . . . which game trump is now playing.

Trump will have the absolute best for VP. Maybe someone we haven't even heard about.

And Trump also has the best security in the world. He has his personal security watching the gov security very closely. He said somewhere that if the gov security tries anything they shouldn't, they are finished, and will never find a job anywhere. I'm thinking they are happy working for Trump and will do nothing that might upset their applecart.
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
The real issue isn't what Cruz's Father believes or says; most of us have family members we don't agree with - the problem is that I haven't heard Cruz the Candidate do or say anything to modify or distance themselves from these statements.

Which means I could not seen any circumstances I could vote for him or even one where he was VP and a potential President; this stuff is very serious and I don't like dictatorships right or left, religious or not.
 

cuz1961

Membership Revoked
" the problem is that I haven't heard Cruz the Candidate do or say anything to modify or distance themselves from these statements."

ok,, fair enough.

maybe its too ridiculous, that he wants to put the
world under a theocracy via his boot,, to respond to ,,

or maybe he just hasnt YET.

if he does,, will you take his word for it and feel differently ?

and do you apply the same standard to trump ,,
and the other candidates ?

trump said

cruz worse than hillery
(in the context of implied dishonesty)

hillery's ACTUAL, dishonesty (people died cuz of a video)

not the allegedly dishonesty as with cruz

got Americans killed,,

as far as i know,,,,cruz, dishonest or not,, hasnt gotten
any americans killed.

i went and saw the movie
13 Hours
today,,, so trumps remarks are especially alarming to me now,,

so trumps remarks were disgusting

and REALLY alarming if that is what he truly believes,

do you agree with trump "?

is hillery's PROVEN dishonesty worse than

teds ALLEGED dishonesty ?

,, if not,, do you require trump
to 'distance' himself from that ?

or is there a double standard at work here.

i notice you,,,or anyone else,, failed to voice any rebuttals to my statements and arguments,,, not with a ten foot pole,

just come up with ,,,,,other,,,, arguments,,,

as i expect to happen with this post also

pretty interesting,,,and telling,,,

and slightly amusing to tell the truth

are you a pink unicorn ?,,, after all ,, i havent heard you deny it /-)

same logic

but then maybe ,,

maybe ted is trying to put the world under theocracy,
is the antichrist
and im the false prophet

time will tell.

/-)

and yes this was posted before,,i forgot who,,
and was too lazy to search who,,, probably be
posted several times before the election

/-)
 
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