CORP/BIZ The Fried Chicken Is in New York. The Cashier Is in the Philippines

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The Fried Chicken Is in New York. The Cashier Is in the Philippines.

The Fried Chicken Is in New York. The Cashier Is in the Philippines.​

New York Times

At Sansan Chicken in Long Island City, Queens, the cashier beamed a wide smile and recommended the fried chicken sandwich.

Or maybe she suggested the tonkatsu — it was hard to tell, because the internet connection from her home in the Philippines was spotty.

Romy, who declined to give her last name, is one of 12 virtual assistants greeting customers at a handful of restaurants in New York City, from halfway across the world.

The virtual hosts could be the vanguard of a rapidly changing restaurant industry, as small-business owners seek relief from rising commercial rents and high inflation. Others see a model rife for abuse: The remote workers are paid $3 an hour, according to their management company, while the minimum wage in the city is $16.

The workers, all based in the Philippines and projected onto flat-screen monitors via Zoom, are summoned when an often unwitting customer approaches. Despite a 12-hour time difference with the New York lunch crowd, they offer warm greetings, explain the menu and beckon guests inside.

But skeptical customers said they were not eager to join this particular Zoom meeting.

“You hear ‘hello’ and you say, ‘What the hell is that?’” Shania Ortiz, 25, recalled of a recent trip to Sansan Ramen, a neighboring Japanese restaurant that had a gold-framed, flat-screen monitor set up in the foyer with a surveillance camera trained on guests. “I never engage,” she said.

The service is the brainchild of Chi Zhang, 34, the founder of Happy Cashier, a virtual-assistant company that was thrust into the spotlight last week, when a social media post about the overseas workers went viral.

He was caught off guard. The program has been quietly tested since October, but the company’s website has not yet been set up. The technology is already available in stores in Queens, Manhattan and Jersey City, N.J., including at Sansan Ramen, its sister store, Sansan Chicken, and Yaso Kitchen, a Chinese soup dumpling spot. Two other Chinese restaurants using the service on Long Island asked not to be named, he said.

Mr. Zhang is a former owner of Yaso Tangbao, a Shanghainese restaurant in Downtown Brooklyn that closed during the coronavirus pandemic. He said the experience reinforced the idea that restaurants were being squeezed by high rents and inflation, and that a virtual-assistant model, somewhat akin to that employed by overseas call centers, could help maximize small retail spaces and improve store efficiency.

When the virtual assistants are not helping customers, they coordinate food delivery orders, take phone calls and oversee the restaurants’ online review pages, Mr. Zhang said. They can take food orders, but they can’t manage cash transactions.

The workers are employees of Happy Cashier, not the restaurants. And Mr. Zhang said that their $3-an-hour wage was roughly double what similar roles paid in the Philippines.

Tipping policy is set by the restaurants, he said, with one giving its virtual greeters 30 percent of the pooled total each day.

The restaurant industry has long been an entry point for immigrants, and a hotbed for labor violations like wage theft.

But the Happy Cashier model is legal and minimum wage laws extend only to workers “who are physically present within the state’s geographical limits,” according to a spokesman for the New York State Department of Labor.

Mr. Zhang said he expected to quickly scale up by placing virtual assistants in more than 100 restaurants in the state by the end of the year.

The prospect is alarming, said Teófilo Reyes, the chief of staff at Restaurant Opportunities Centers United, a nonprofit labor group that has pushed for a higher minimum wage in New York.

“The fact that they have found a way to outsource work to another country is extremely troubling, because it’s going to dramatically put downward pressure on wages in the industry,” he said.

The fast-food work force is already shrinking, and new technology could further transform the industry, said Jonathan Bowles, the executive director of the Center for an Urban Future, a public policy think tank.

Fast-food restaurants in New York City had an average of 8.5 employees in 2022, he said, down from 9.23 in 2019, before the pandemic.

Virtual assistants have become common in customer service and corporate settings, but are rare in the hands-on restaurant business.

One recent exception came from Freshii, a Canadian restaurant brand that faced a backlash in 2022 over claims of outsourcing jobs, after partnering with a virtual cashier business called Percy.

Mr. Zhang said his business was different. “It’s a service, we are providing a tool. It’s up to them how to use this,” he said of his restaurant clients.

Brett Goldstein, 33, a founder of an artificial intelligence company who made the viral post about the virtual workers, said some commenters had described the model as dystopian while many others had been intrigued.

At the Sansan Chicken in Manhattan’s East Village, Rosy Tang, 30, a manager, praised the service.

“This is a way for small businesses to survive,” she said, adding that the cost and space savings it provided could allow her to add a small coffee stall to the store.

In practice, however, quirks with the model abound.

At the Sansan Chicken in Queens, the virtual assistant couldn’t help a reporter order a sandwich without cheese on a touch pad menu. The assistant said the reporter should order from the in-person staff members at the Sansan Ramen next door, which shares a kitchen with the chicken restaurant.

Will Jang, 30, an associate at Goldman Sachs, had lunch on Wednesday at the Yaso Kitchen in Jersey City — and completely ignored his virtual hostess, Amber.

“I thought it was some advertisement,” like the prerecorded videos in taxi cabs, he said.

Amber, who did not give her last name, took it in stride. After studying business administration in college, she said she worked in-person at a fast-food restaurant. She started this virtual job three months ago.

“It’s my first time to work in a work-from-home setup,” she said in front of a virtual backdrop emblazoned with mustachioed cartoon dumplings.

When asked where home was, she demurred.

“I’m sorry, I cannot share any more personal details with you,” she said. “Can I take your order?”
 

greysage

On The Level
“You hear ‘hello’ and you say, ‘What the hell is that?’” Shania Ortiz, 25, recalled of a recent trip to Sansan Ramen, a neighboring Japanese restaurant that had a gold-framed, flat-screen monitor set up in the foyer with a surveillance camera trained on guests. “I never engage,” she said.

No thanks. I like preserving my privacy as much as possible. Having a foreigner from the other side of the Earth be involved in real time with my meal at a restaurant is just too far out for me. Guess it's a good thing I don't eat out at restaurants much.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Tell me again how we must be back in the office.

They can outsource cashiers by zoom call now. But then, that opens up a whole new kettle of worms as suddenly the high school kids who would have had those jobs get outsourced to the Philippines or whatnot where $2 an hour is a living wage.
 

Macgyver

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I don't think this is new per say.

One of the big fast food companies was trying something like this for the drive through.
I think the operators were in the US though.
 

Ravekid

Veteran Member
The only reason to even have people still in the mix is because for now, many humans still seem to want some sort of human interaction in daily life. I have a relative who likes eating at wait service establishments. She likes to be waited on. She is very social and comes from an era where eating out at such a restaurant was considered a big deal and rare treat.

I on the other hand don’t crave human interaction as much as most people seem to. Give me a kiosk, let me customize my order, tap my credit card, then call my name or number when my food is ready. I can get my own drinks, walk up to a counter and get my food. This off-shoring of order takers is a last ditch effort to provide human interaction in human feeding services while trying to maximize profit.
 

Warthog

Black Out
That's what the do with the fish too! Catch it in USA, then send it to a communist country for processing and poisioning.
 

West

Senior
For lurkers or newbies...

One has to remember that the all in cost for a employer to hire a $20 a hour employee is at minimum $40 a hour. While the employee takes home way less than $20hr.

This is by mandate folks. Our own government is over taxing, over regulating and over mandating employers to go this route.

Business have to make a profit off their employees labor. Especially in today's sue happy environment. It's called liability. Keeping lawyers and a CPAs fed is a additional cost but must needed. Got to stay compliant and on top of things.

So a $20 hrs. employee will cost the employer $40hr. Plus, plus...especially a frivolous lawsuit or two and now the liability on that employee just went to 150% because of liability insurance rates, etc...
So to be safe a employer should figure to bill their employees labor cost ×4 to be safe and include that cost into to the cost of their product or service. That's NOT to maximize profit, that's just to stay in business, a business has to make profit!

So I'll see you that $10 hamburger and raise you a $15 hamburger, $5 fries and a $5 drink. Today only!
 
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Dobbin

Faithful Steed
That's what the do with the fish too! Catch it in USA, then send it to a communist country for processing and poisioning.
The CCP has an interest in US Farmland beyond its proximity to US Military Bases.

Or in the case of Maine "Pot-Grows" - keeping the local and extended population docile and complacent.


TURNER, Maine —
It turns out the discovery of an illegal marijuana grow operation at a farmhouse in Turner could be one of 270 in Maine, officials said.

A call to the fire department for smoke pouring out of the eaves at 2509 Auburn Road in Turner last week turned out to be steam due to extreme heat inside, and cold outside.

Investigators also discovered 2,500 marijuana plants and an elaborate illegal growing operation, according to authorities.

Owner says he's in the wrong business.


The New Hampshire House approved a group of bills expanding the state’s therapeutic cannabis program Thursday – as lawmakers continue to grapple with whether to legalize marijuana for everyone.

The chamber voted to pass House Bill 1278, a bill to add debilitating or terminal conditions to the list of qualifications for using therapeutic cannabis, also known as medical marijuana. In a separate vote, the House approved House Bill 1349, which allows those with generalized anxiety disorder to be part of the therapeutic cannabis program.

Report is the NH House passed a bill yesterday legalizing "recreational marijuana" (The last New England state to do so) but now it goes on to the NH Senate for ratification. Governor (RINO) Sununu indicates he will sign.

Sununu needs his CCP 10 percent.

Owner may get his chance.

Dobbin
 
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