Tinctured Echinacea

Kathy in WV

Down on the Farm...
I just bought a new computer last week and have lost and/or misplaced some things I wanted to save. I had directions for tincturing Echinacea but now I can't find it. Could somebody who knows reassure me about this? I'm planning to tincture it just like I did my Elderberries. Is there anything I need to do differently? Thanks for helping me out if you can!! Kat

PS- I've caught some kind of crud that has MAJOR involvement with sinus,ears, and ALL the lymph nodes from the ears all the way down the throat. Any guesses what I might have????? I haven't had nodes like this since I was a little kid- they are HUGE and SORE!! :bwl: :bwl: :bwl: :bwl:
 

goatlady2

Deceased
You are correct - tincturing is tincturing when you are using dried herbs/roots, etc. Do it the same as you did the elderberries. Are you taking your elderberry for your present crud? Why not?
 

yellowsprings

Inactive
Kathy in WV said:
PS- I've caught some kind of crud that has MAJOR involvement with sinus,ears, and ALL the lymph nodes from the ears all the way down the throat. Any guesses what I might have????? I haven't had nodes like this since I was a little kid- they are HUGE and SORE!! :bwl: :bwl: :bwl: :bwl:

This "crud" or "funk" as my DD calls it, is making it's way around our area! DH, DD (does not live at home) both had it. Everyone at DH's work and their families have it. DD was dehydrated, bronchitis and ear infections, temp of 104. I started taking my elderberry syrup right away. Luckily I did not get it! DH reluctantly took it and his was a very mild case compared to everyone at work. Some were out for over a week and still are coughing up a storm.

Run for the elderberry! :shkr:
 

Kathy in WV

Down on the Farm...
**HACK**COUGH**CRUD***

Sorry guys, but this is the first day I've felt like doing much of anything! I did indeed have that creeping crud everyones talking about. The Elderberry or the Vit. C, cleared it up in 3 days. Today I'm still congested but the crud isn't so disgusting(I'm not going into the details of that-you will thank me!) What really did me in is the fact that my blood pressure jumped up to 185/118!!!!! :shkr: :shkr: :shkr: :shkr: I never knew before what it feels like to have it go really high. Felt like I wasn't all the way conscious- kinda dreaming. The way my Doctor talked, I'm not the first person he's seen whose blood pressure has been high with this crud. I told him how high my BP was and the first thing he asked me was have you been sick? I thought this was worth mentioning on here so that if y'all get sick you will know to watch the pressure. I do have highBP and my Doc switched me to another med. Told me to go in if it ever happens again. One other thing worth noting- the mucus involved would be dangerous in my opinion for little kids, older folks, or people with asthma etc..... so watch out for that. I also thought it was odd that I never did have any fever at all. It even got in my chest and I still got no fever. Don't you think thats odd??? Does this sound like anything you've heard of? Well, just wanted to let y'all know about my WONDERFUL week! :kk1: :kk1: :kk1: :kk1: Kat :D
 

Lynques

Member
We just finished talking about this over on Ren's Nest. The typical amounts for a tincture are 1:4. That is, One part herb, to Four parts menstrum, the menstrum being liquid. I answered:

"I totally disagree with the amounts used. Pack that jar at least half full to 3/4 full with dried herb then pour alcohol over it and let it go to about 2 inches on top of the herb. Let that soak for a day or two, and see if you need more alcohol as the herb absorbs the liquid. You want a strong tincture, of any herb.

A long, long time ago, when herbalist got together and decided to share formulas with the public, they decided on the 1:4 or 1:5 ratio of herb to menstrum. This is not THIER formula or how they make their tinctures at all. They crammed the herb in the jar and then added the menstrum. You see, they figured that if the public could make their own, even if it was weak, it could handle minor complaints. However, if they were really sick and the mild tinctures wouldn't help the complaint, they would still go the the kind herbalist who shared his formula. They could get well with his formula, since he told them they could get better with a boosted tincture. And they did.

Now with fresh herb, just clean off the leaves, flowers, seeds and roots of echinacea, or any other herb part that you use with other herbs and cram, I do mean cram into a jar. Personally, I use a blender, cram 3/4 full, pour over the menstrum and blend it to pieces. Since with echinacea I use a whole gallon jar, I do this with the blender several times to make up a gallon. Now that it is made, within one minute you have a tincture you can start using now. A one minute tincture of fresh herb is stronger than anything you will find on the market. So scoop out some of the tincture to be ready to use right now, and replace the menstrum in the jar. Put the lid on, shake it up. You want to keep it in the jar (shaken every day) for at least 2 weeks, but the longer you can keep it with the herb in it, the stronger it will be. Just replace menstrum for whatever you took out, and shake the jar.

With a dried herb tincture, you will have to learn which herbs soak in lots of menstrum and swell considerably and which just swell a little. So with dried herbs, just fill the jar at least half-way up and add the alcohol to about 2 more inches than herb. Then wait a day or so for the herb to soak in the menstrum. If it soaks up all the menstrum, then add more, just about 2 inches, and see how much it soaks in. Once it has soaked in all it can, there should be about 2 inches of menstrum that the herb is either floating on top of or 2 inches on top. Now it is ready. Now you count the 2 weeks. it is best started on the new moon and finished by the full moon.

You want your tinctures to kick some major bacterial or viral butt, so the tincture you just made is called a 1 power tincture. If you want that stronger, and with echinacea you do, make a 3 power tincture.

Get your herb in the jar again, and then pour the finished and strained tincture over the herbs. Let it soak in, see if you need more menstrum (for 3 power, just alcohol) and add if necessary. Lid it and shake for two weeks, and at the end, strain out and you have a 3 power tincture.

Now, want and even stronger tincture? How about a 7 power tincture? Do the same thing, put more herb in the jar, pour the 3 power tincture over the herb and let soak adding alcohol if it calls for it. Lid, shake strain for 2 weeks and you have a mighty echinacea tincture.

Use less with the 3 and 7 power tinctures especially with children. but it will still do the job and faster than the one power tinctures."

Lynques
 

Lynques

Member
Oh, sorry.

http://p201.ezboard.com/btherensnest

We used to be 21stRenaissance, but that closed down. Just a group of good friends. Yarrow Spirit and I are the resident Herb ladies. The only reason I mentioned it was that we are just now finishing up with Echinacea tincture. One of the girls just got her shipment in of Echinacea and is making it up. I've made up lots myself, but I make it the strong way. Stuff will curl your hair, but is it great for getting rid of the "uglies".

I had to go back and look at my signature here, lol. I usually stay most of the time on ezboard, except for a few other boards I visit, and I forgot my addys arent with my signature here, lol. Sorry!

Lynques
 

AnnCats

Deceased
Echinacea

Could someone please give me some guidance? I have a lot of echinacea flowers, bought for tea - is it possile to make a ticture out of them, or is it better to just make the tea?

Also, I have elderberry flowers, same question...

Right now i have dried elderberries, elderberry juice, a little water and some sugar on the stove on very low heat, to reconstitute the berries and then to pour vodka over the mix.. I'll whir it in the cuisenart, because I need the strongest possible tincture immediately. Anyone else have warnings, suggestions , anything that will make this immediately available?

My problem is a kid who has had multiple brain surgeries, is on doxycycline and clindamycin on a daily basis for forever, to keep chronic meningitis and bone infection at bay. ( Yes, it has been cultured and identified.) But I'd love to get her at least a little off the harsh antibiotics if at all possible. I'm also thinking in terms of colloidal silver to help her, too, but I'm not sure of the dosage - the smallest possible to begin with is best, I think.

Thanks for any helpl information, suggestions!
 

goatlady2

Deceased
Ann, you don't really have to reconstitute the dried berries, they are much more medicinally potent dried. Just put them in your blender with the vodka and go for it. Same with the flowers. After you get everything mixed then SIMMER very gently while adding the sugar to sweeten and thicken. I would add the echinacea to the elderberry mixture in the blender for additional medicinal potency. Sambucol, the expensive elderberry prep on the market has echinacea in it.
 

Lynques

Member
Ann, for the kid, go to a yahoogroup called Herbal Remedies. (herbalRemedies@yahoogroup) They have several Naturopaths who belong to the group. Intro yourself, explain what is wrong with the patient, and what they are on, and ask what can be done.

Lynques
 
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