CORONA Travel during pandemic

xtreme_right

Veteran Member
I’m wondering if we should expect any driving bans. My daughter’s at college, 6 hours away by car. She’s coming down with something and it made me think I need a plan in place for when I would need to go get her. Or, when it gets bad enough to tell her it’s time to come home. At what point would there be road blocks?
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
I would keep an eye on what the schools are doing. When they start closing, you'll know. I've heard discussion about both secondary and colleges moving to distance learning (online school) if the virus becomes widespread. Do you have a fast enough ISP so that she can work at home?

I don't expect to see many road blocks in the US, maybe going into the smaller, more isolated towns. However, no one has a working crystal ball.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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It isn't as if this is the first pandemic in this country.

1633 was a smallpox pandemic
1793 was Yellow Fever
1832-1866 was a three-wave Cholera pandemic
1858 was Scarlet Fever
1906 was a Typhoid pandemic (I lost a couple of young family members to this according to family cemetery/history)
1916-1955 was peak Polio
1918 was H1N1 (that was the bad one)
1921-1925 was a Dyptheria pandemic (my grandmother lost two baby sisters to this)
1957 was H2N2
1968 was H3N2 (I was 18 months old and it nearly killed me)
2001 was H1N1 again but it was a rather wimpy pandemic here in the States

I don't think travel was truly restricted the way you are talking about it. See how it was handled historically to give you something to build a hypothesis with.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Things are a little different now, Kathy. We have a whole "entitled" generation that does what they want when they want to do it and to heck with everyone else. Secondly, we have a number of people living paycheck-to-paycheck who aren't going to admit they are sick until they drop over.

Add to that the fact that most local governments don't have the personnel to enforce a mandatory quarantine, and I foresee a lot of waves of illness over at least a two-year period, unless scientists manage to concoct a successful vaccine.

That's why there's some serious talk about moving schools to the Internet. There's a lot of problems with doing that with all schools, but I expect to see many high schools and colleges go that route. A lot have the software in place already (Blackboard, Canvas, etc).
 

Donald Shimoda

In Absentia
Howdy, Folks!

xtreme_right, I'd recommend working with your daughter on a good "shelter in place" plan for her.

That way if her movements are restricted, she'll have a solid Plan B.

Hope she feels better soon!

Peace and Love,

Donald Shimoda

 

Luddite

Veteran Member
At what point would there be road blocks?
Heard a guy from China interviewed yesterday. He had to alter his way to work because some dude was blocking a through street to prevent anyone but street residents from passing.

Most preppers have alternate plans to avoid interstates. This scenario you have brought up may be the exact opposite of what we think might happen. The interstates would be the last to close. We don't need to revisit the JIT inventory issue. Trucks will run. (if there are willing drivers and if they have products to haul) There isn't enough man-power for "SHOW ME YOUR PAPERS" road-blocks.

Do you know any trusted truckers that might pick her up?

Back up. Do you think the colleges are willing to provide the necessary resources to deal with quarantines? I don't. The schools will call for extended spring breaks and send them "anywhere but here".

What good will it do you to pick her up if she is shedding virus and you ride 6 hours in a car? Ask the cruise ship passengers or the airline passengers. We'll do ANYTHING for our kids. Do you have a trailer that you could put her car on and have her ride in it until you get home to your "sick room"? You do have a separate sick room right?



I don't expect responses for my rhetorical questions. Just throwing some of my thoughts out.

Very best wishes for you and your family.


Always remember the old saying: "Better to be a day early than one minute too late"
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
I’m wondering if we should expect any driving bans. My daughter’s at college, 6 hours away by car. She’s coming down with something and it made me think I need a plan in place for when I would need to go get her. Or, when it gets bad enough to tell her it’s time to come home. At what point would there be road blocks?
Anything is possible. I don't see the value of putting up roadblocks. It's too late to close the barn door. We're going to have to ride this one out.

I'm more concerned there might be fuel shortages. Refineries, pipelines, ships and trucks don't run without people trained to do their respective jobs. This plague could have a leveling effect to some degree. The elites might find out how uncomfortable life can become without all those deplorable ignorant little people catering to them and maintaining the system. It takes a lot of people with a lot of different skill sets to keep things running smoothly. If enough people can't work and maintain the system life could get interesting.
 
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boonyn

Contributing Member
Im in Thailand. Airlines are already changing flight schedules. Im supposed to come back to the US in April but that is starting to look unlikely. Its actually not all bad.
 

xtreme_right

Veteran Member
So she is sick. Fever and chills. I can’t help but wonder if it’s corona. What are the odds my daughter would be one of the first to get it out in public. She was working the San Antonio Stock show and rodeo on Saturday. Started feeling bad Monday night. There have been over 200 sent to Lackland in San Antonio under quarantine.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
The Universities will boot students and close down if this bug gets rolling. Gawd knows those places are plague houses on the best of days. Frankly, for this virus, I don't see anything as draconian as quarantine roadblocks...the illness/death rate is simply not dire enough to warrant it. She will be able to get home.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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People working until they dropped goes back generations. It isn't something new. That's always how contagions have spread. People are going to do what they want/must do with predictable results.

Mandatory quarantines, even those tried historically, have rarely worked simply because the draconian methods necessary have always been met with resistance. The Black Plague may have gotten some help from rats, etc. but mostly it was spread by infectious people despite the mandatory quarantines that were tried during those times.

Here in Florida online public schools have been around for over a decade. They've got the bugs worked out. Public universities in this state even require a certain number of credit hours to be taken online to graduate. Even "in person" courses have online components like question and answer boards. But there are problems with relying on them for education during a pandemic because you still have to have people operating the systems. And when you have a lot of students dumped in all at one time it will implode. They found this out when they were cosplaying out the hypothetical bird flu pandemic.

The plans sound pretty but from a practical standpoint, there won't be enough compliance to make them failsafe … or even implementable in many instances.
 

Kathy in FL

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So she is sick. Fever and chills. I can’t help but wonder if it’s corona. What are the odds my daughter would be one of the first to get it out in public. She was working the San Antonio Stock show and rodeo on Saturday. Started feeling bad Monday night. There have been over 200 sent to Lackland in San Antonio under quarantine.

There is a lot of crap going around right now. Don't panic. It isn't the flu but a respiratory infection. My girls had it then end of January. And yes, they caught it at university.
 

Virtualco

Panic Early - Panic Often
My DD (a daily DC Metro rider) and her husband are to fly from Reagan (DCA) to Ft Myers (RSW) for a week visit with me and DW the 19th of March for a week of sun and fun here in SW Florida.

I'm hoping the timing allows for this visit however if I were a betting sort of person I would say, "That ain't going to happen."

What can you do? Concerned in SW FL

Panic Early - Panic Often
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
So she is sick. Fever and chills. I can’t help but wonder if it’s corona. What are the odds my daughter would be one of the first to get it out in public. She was working the San Antonio Stock show and rodeo on Saturday. Started feeling bad Monday night. There have been over 200 sent to Lackland in San Antonio under quarantine.

Most probably the common flu or even strep which are both making the rounds right now.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
FWIW: lots of people have canceled their vacation plans that involve airports. Some are doing "staycations." That would be my plan, too. This is not a good time to be on a plane, in an airport, or on a ship.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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My DD (a daily DC Metro rider) and her husband are to fly from Reagan (DCA) to Ft Myers (RSW) for a week visit with me and DW the 19th of March for a week of sun and fun here in SW Florida.

I'm hoping the timing allows for this visit however if I were a betting sort of person I would say, "That ain't going to happen."

What can you do? Concerned in SW FL

Panic Early - Panic Often

The flu and noro have become so commonplace that people ignore them but that's about what this current coronavirus is like. Don't believe me do some research on India during the yearly flu season. Absolute insanity is what the hospitals look like and yet life and travel goes on. China's reaction has as much to do with other stuff as it does with the communicability of this thing.

Until the CFR goes up significantly I'm not going to worry overmuch. I see the potential, I don't see the damning CFR that would make me flip the switch to Code Red. I've successfully dealt with both influenza and noro in my house. It isn't fun but it isn't the EOTWAWKI either.
 

Capt. Eddie

Veteran Member
FWIW: lots of people have canceled their vacation plans that involve airports. Some are doing "staycations." That would be my plan, too. This is not a good time to be on a plane, in an airport, or on a ship.
I know, gives you warm fuzzies when you have to commute by airplane to go to your job on a ship.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I've successfully dealt with both influenza and noro in my house. It isn't fun but it isn't the EOTWAWKI either.

same here... we went out yesterday and did our quarterly shopping a few days early. I now have everything I need in house if we should get sick and need to stay home, be it the flu, noro, the common cold, or this corona virus.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
Howdy, Folks!

xtreme_right, I'd recommend working with your daughter on a good "shelter in place" plan for her.

That way if her movements are restricted, she'll have a solid Plan B.

Hope she feels better soon!

Peace and Love,

Donald Shimoda
Agreed

Plan A) Shelter in place.....with preps that no one knows about....
Plan B) Have a go bag and at least two methods to get home on short notice...
 

GammaRat

Veteran Member
And I'm flying to Boston, with a layover in Chicago, and taking an Uber in just a couple of hours...
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
The wife works only 10 miles from home, but we have a plan A,B and C for her to stay safe.....

We also have a gobag in her car and a weapon for that reason.....

That reminds me, I need her to practice her shooting this weekend and review her bag as it has been a few months.
 

agmfan3

Veteran Member
Hubby will be flying home for a 4 day visit, from Seattle to Nashville, we have no choice if we want to see each other. He's been gone since 1/2. Probably not be done until sometime early April, then I fly out and drive home with him. Gotta do what we gotta do.
 
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