What the hell is Trump thinking?

Cacheman

Ultra MAGA!
I'll be the devil's advocate here...…….Hear ye, Hear ye I would never vote for Hillary, never.....just proposing dialog. And remember it's all speculation anyway, since she didn't.

Exactly just how bad would she have been? Remember she would have 2 years of a Republican controlled Congress.

Exactly how bad was Obama with ONLY two years of a Democrat controlled Congress?
 

PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Does anyone think no matter who gets to the White house that they are sat down and read the riot act by the shadow powers as to what your role is and if you rock the boat we JFK you?
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Does anyone think no matter who gets to the White house that they are sat down and read the riot act by the shadow powers as to what your role is and if you rock the boat we JFK you?
No doubt it goes something like that, like Joes comment on the CIA having six ways to Sunday to get even...... that was a veiled threat to say the least.

I still hold out some hope, but like the old duck, still pedaling like mad under the surface. It's how we all roll, right?

He is notorious for saying one thing, doing another, and often it works out in very positive ways....I hope this is one.

His getting tougher, may very well be a militarized border, with no reason to shut it down, so to speak. He could shut it down by putting up the concertina barrier we have discussed............ I don't believe he's just stopped in his tracks on this, he's not dumb or ill informed. HE knows what's happening, he knows what has to be done to retain sovereignty.... we wait and see.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Does anyone think no matter who gets to the White house that they are sat down and read the riot act by the shadow powers as to what your role is and if you rock the boat we JFK you?

If anyone answers, "Yes", then they will be burned at the stake for saying so.
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
Instead of closing the border agents have been reassigned and it's creating a bottleneck of trucks entering the US from mexico, wait times are over 12 hours or more at some and miles long, now businesses are beginning to scream about getting something done. Congress may do something when the big donors scream.


Agree Cacheman. Mexico has never really been the problem with getting the wall built. I has always been congress. And only when the 'pinch' is put on them will the wall problem be solved. Yep, I think you nailed it.
 

dogmanan

Inactive
TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ENOUGH BULLETS NOR ENOUGH PATRIOTS TO KEEP ARE COUNTRY, TIME WILL TELL....................
 

dogmanan

Inactive
Agree Cacheman. Mexico has never really been the problem with getting the wall built. I has always been congress. And only when the 'pinch' is put on them will the wall problem be solved. Yep, I think you nailed it.

CAP I AM SUPRISED YOU HAVE NOT SHAVED YOUR BREAD YET, BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE END TIMES OF ARE COUNTRY, MOST ON HERE AND IN THE WORLD DON'T SEE THAT, BUT IT IS HERE THE END OF US.
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
I think he is caught between the rock and hard place. I think the tariffs may be a better idea that shutting down the border at this point. When I went shopping Tuesday I was really surprised at the lack of produce at the store. So many empty or near empty bins that are usually chocked full. I have never seen it that bad. It will be much worse if he closes the border and many people will be screaming. He can't get congress to do shit about the immigration laws and border enforcement. His best bet is to get Mexico to stop the illegals from crossing. I think that he also has to stop illegals from getting welfare, education, health care and other free benefits. He should also crack down on the employers and people who rent to them or allow them to buy houses. We shouldn't be welcoming them with free stuff and a way to live easily here.


Yep, about produce...has anyone considered what the 'Bread basket of America' flooding and destruction will do to produce production? Think about it and you will see why Trump had to put off closing the border. We will have to depend on Mexico supplying a much bigger percentage of our foods very, very soon. You all have to widen your views and look at the 'Big Picture'.
 
Instead of closing the border agents have been reassigned and it's creating a bottleneck of trucks entering the US from mexico, wait times are over 12 hours or more at some and miles long, now businesses are beginning to scream about getting something done. Congress may do something when the big donors scream.

Was listening to talk radio yesterday, and a border agent mentioned that some folks had been pulled from their normally assigned job of inspection duties at major U.S. airports, and reassigned to the southern border. The agent noted that this will begin to create bottlenecks with folks flying internationally.

We'll see.


intothegoodnight
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Was listening to talk radio yesterday, and a border agent mentioned that some folks had been pulled from their normally assigned job of inspection duties at major U.S. airports, and reassigned to the southern border. The agent noted that this will begin to create bottlenecks with folks flying internationally.

We'll see.


intothegoodnight

It is already an oversized pain in the backside to fly internationally. The only "quick" international anything is if you are leaving on a cruise
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
CAP I AM SUPRISED YOU HAVE NOT SHAVED YOUR BREAD YET, BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE END TIMES OF ARE COUNTRY, MOST ON HERE AND IN THE WORLD DON'T SEE THAT, BUT IT IS HERE THE END OF US.

Sorry Dogmanan, but this conflagration won't call for my shaving. When that promise was made, we were all expecting WWIII to break out just any moment...with tons and tons of bios, chems and radioactive materials drifting on the winds. I would have had to shave so my gas mask would seal properly to my face to protect me from all of that. This mess we're facing now won't be a 'World War' but a 'world AT war'. And yes, there is a difference. The enemy we'll be facing, for the most part, won't have the bio, chem or radioactive arsenal at their disposal...so shaving is not as necessary as it was with the other scenario. Also, with today's technology...I seriously doubt I would have the time to shave, take a picture of my face and post it here...so, instead, I will post a very old picture I found of me without a beard. In it, I'm wearing my Army 'Class A' uniform...

As far as the 'End Times' is concerned...I believe we've been in them for a number of years now. I believe President Trump is God's 'Last chance, America' warning to us and the world at large.
 

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straightstreet

Life is better in flip flops
I voted for President Trump because of illegal immigration and the fact that he was going to build a wall and Mexico was going to pay for it. It's much worse today. Our country is being overrun.
 

Chance

Veteran Member
I think the RANT needs to be saved for the Democrats and RINOs - they are the ones who've made the laws and refuse to update/change the laws at the border.

Any countries feeling the pinch of our backed up border, any businesses feeling the pinch from border delays, any Americans feeling the pinch at the grocery store, at the airport, at the border crossing need to file their complaints where they belong - with Pelosi. I hope it's mostly Democrats that feel the pain of this!

I hope other countries, like Canada and Central American/South American countries that are feeling the slow-down complain to Mexico. Mexico let the masses in. They created the problem for the U.S.

I believe President Trump can and will do something about this border mess....it's unsustainable. I wish he'd just shut down the asylum process and tell Congress - it's down until you change the laws.
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Wished I'd never opened this thread. Been in DC for two days straight working and I've heard nothing but socialist drivel. Orange man bad, give Joe Biden a pass on his groping, he's an old man you see, Trump has screwed up this country 9 ways to sunday, etc ad nauseam.
I come on TB2K to this thread and hear the same socialist shit, the same liberal talking points.

Jesus H CHRIST I am sick of hearing this sh*t. The president is doing what he can-he is a president democratically elected, not a f*cking dictator. He has to work within the confines of law and order-remember those? If you're not happy with him, please feel free to join the "resistance" against him. There are tons of soyboys and lesbians that hate his guts, feel ****ing free to mingle with them. They would LOVE to have you (in more ways than one)...Unite against the president, come on up and burn a limo, hold a protest in Lafayette park. There were about a hundred pink pussy hats protesting against him yesterday in Lafayette park, chanting slogans as they were told by the rally handlers, most with the same preprinted signs. Like these idiots, I'm sure you as they get paid nevermind by rational human beings.

Sure, come on up and march against the president. Lot of good that's going to do. Guess it might make you feel better though.

He's doing what he can-sounds like many of you have just given up on him. Your loss, not his.

Whine all you want, join the resistance against him.
 

Chance

Veteran Member
It's Americans that are behind the caravans in Honduras, Guatemala, etc. (And their various donors - Soros, Gates, etc.)

They are loving the way Trump supporters are turning on Trump now - that was/is their plan. They love seeing Trump squirm when everything he tries gets shot down.

President Trump needs to find out who they are and shut them down. Surely there is some IRS/donation/funding that's illegal. Surely there is some tax law they are breaking. Surely there is some law against the U.S. that they are breaking by doing this. Trump has a lot of brains in D.C. - I hope they are looking in to this.

These 'Americans' have declared war on our president - they have declared war on us - because he is US.

I think it's time to get organized and march on D.C. show the Democrats and RINOs in force that we support our president and our country. We need our own vests.
 
I keep getting disappointed that Trump isn't closing the borders, putting up a wall, stopping anchor babies, and all those things.....I have come to agree with alternative broadcasters I respect that he is not his own man....he has been taken over by the Deep State. When he recently promised to close the border with Mexico, I immediately knew that was one more promise he'd never keep. Happens all the time.

I would find it very difficult to vote for him, again, if he runs for a second term, since he back pedals on just about everything. I could take issue with a great many of Witness's points on why HE thinks Trump is so great!!!!

However, I also listen to Michael Savage, whom I like a lot. Savage is concerned that people who feel like giving up on voting at all, being disappointed in Trump's inactivity on the issues he was voted in for, will just not vote in the next election.

What Savage is concerned about is that with a lot of Trump's base staying away from the polls, at the next election, and with all the hordes of illegals who can vote, since we have no voter ID laws, the migrants will join the Democrats, who are Socialists, and turn this country into a Socialist State. Savage frequently reminds us listeners what it was like, in Russia, when the Bolsheviks took over. His grandfather escaped Russia. It was a cruel regime, under the Socialists.

I would like to add that someone on the board who has had relatives who escaped from Russia, back in those days, might remind us what conditions were like. It would be an education. Perhaps that might convince some of us disillusioned Trumpsters that he is better than that. Dunno, but it could work.
 

petedtom

Membership Revoked
So I take it the border is not getting closed, nor is the wall being built to be paid for by Mexico?

Maybe if we fund it ourselves...oh wait......
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
And 3 Trump tweets 'explaining his position' on the border...What's your definition of the word, 'supersede'?
 

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petedtom

Membership Revoked
It's Americans that are behind the caravans in Honduras, Guatemala, etc. (And their various donors - Soros, Gates, etc.)

They are loving the way Trump supporters are turning on Trump now - that was/is their plan. They love seeing Trump squirm when everything he tries gets shot down.

President Trump needs to find out who they are and shut them down. Surely there is some IRS/donation/funding that's illegal. Surely there is some tax law they are breaking. Surely there is some law against the U.S. that they are breaking by doing this. Trump has a lot of brains in D.C. - I hope they are looking in to this.

These 'Americans' have declared war on our president - they have declared war on us - because he is US.

I think it's time to get organized and march on D.C. show the Democrats and RINOs in force that we support our president and our country. We need our own vests.

While I do not disagree with your sentiment I have to ask...Didn't we march once before on Mordor on the Potomac (DC) and that amounted to ....what ??
We tried it the way of protesting , writing letters on and on and on....

Gave us all a nice warm feeling but nothing happened...nothing changed, in fact it got worse.

Probably should march on DC...this time with a bit of different intent.
 

Garryowen

Deceased
As far as I'm concerned, I agree. Trump needs to stop and think, before he shoots his mouth off about promises he can't keep. Too many times, he's done it. I can't trust a person who doesn't keep their word.

Well, yes, but. He has kept more promises and delivered more change (positive, not Obama) than any president I can recall in my lifetime. I'm 75 this month. We Americans tend to have short memories. He has done better than I expected, and with a lot more opposition than almost any other president has faced.
 

Snyper

Veteran Member
No, we don't. Someone, though, needs to tell Trump to shut up, until he knows for sure what TPTB are gonna allow him to do. He can't keep throwing out empty promises that he can't keep. It's costing him votes.
Who is a better alternative?
 

Snyper

Veteran Member
CAP I AM SUPRISED YOU HAVE NOT SHAVED YOUR BREAD YET, BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE END TIMES OF ARE COUNTRY, MOST ON HERE AND IN THE WORLD DON'T SEE THAT, BUT IT IS HERE THE END OF US.

If you need to shave your bread, it's time to just buy a new loaf.
 
Chance, above my post, has a point...Trump should go after the different organizations that are largely funded by our govt....Catholic Charities gets a huge payout for bringing in a great many people. Baptists also have a similar set-up. I don't know who else does, but CC is the largest one, and what is aggravating to me is that these groups get huge sums from our govt. to bring in hordes of migrants! Catholics should complain, en masse, to their churches. (However, the CC wants more members, and so many from South or Central America are Catholic They'll never stop this, unless they are forced to.)

Just stop and think about....how long can our govt. continue to supply all these migrants from all over, free everything....housing, food, medical care, education (some states even offer free college!), money for transportation. It is only a matter of time before our Uncle Sugar will run out of money and our economy will collapse, under the load. I believe this is part of the Cloward and Pliven plan, if I'm not mistaken. Why do we keep hearing that we are the richest country in the world, when our debt is at least 22 trillion dollars....never repayable.

It has been pointed out that our American kids suffer, because there are so many different languages that have to be taught, and that takes time and money away from the education for our own children.

Michael Savage was giving an example of what one of the teen aged moms from Central America, all settled, here, can call her mother and tell her : "Hi, Mom....the kids and I are doing just fine in America! We have a nice place to live in, plenty of our favorite food, whenever the kids need a Dr., we don't have to pay, and the kids go to school, now, and even learn how to read our own language! This is a great country, Mom!" (Savage tells that so many of the illegals can't even read or write their own language.)
 

straightstreet

Life is better in flip flops
And 3 Trump tweets 'explaining his position' on the border...What's your definition of the word, 'supersede'?

On the one hand I feel sorry for him because he IS trying with NO help. On the other hand, I am so p*ssed at our invasion! Just stop it now. Deport! Clean them out!
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
One more thing has to happen first....DECLAS... Q gave us a list of things that *will* happen...and they have happened..as listed. And as I recall right after Mueller delivers his report comes the
declas...and then comes the unsealing of all those indictments and the military tribunals. Oh and the wall *is* being built as we speak. And another new thing I just learned about...Trump has replaced the guy he had nominated for the head of CBP with one he says will be 'tougher'... It's a'comin', Folks...it's a'comin'...
 

Be Well

may all be well
Did you listen to his whole talk today or read his tweets? The media is lying about his saying a year, he did not say that. Apparently in the last few days MX is stopping invaders from getting to the US border for the first time. He speaks for himself in the video below, along with quite a few other people such as BP people and some of the good CA elected people. He is clearly not going to let this invasion continue unabated. The MSM lie so that Trump supporters will give up.

Link, not on youtube so you have to go to link, he and others speak for 50 minutes:

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1MnGnvYygkMGO?t=1s

Here is what he said via twitter today:

Donald J. Trump
The Crazed and Dishonest Washington Post again purposely got it wrong. Mexico, for the first time in decades, is meaningfully apprehending illegals at THEIR Southern Border, before the long march up to the U.S. This is great and the way it should be. The big flow will stop.......

....However, if for any reason Mexico stops apprehending and bringing the illegals back to where they came from, the U.S. will be forced to Tariff at 25% all cars made in Mexico and shipped over the Border to us. If that doesn’t work, which it will, I will close the Border.......

....This will supersede USMCA. Likewise I am looking at an economic penalty for the 500 Billion Dollars in illegal DRUGS that are shipped and smuggled through Mexico and across our Southern Border. Over 100,00 Americans die each year, sooo many families destroyed!


ETA: I see the tweets are up already!
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Sorry Dogmanan, but this conflagration won't call for my shaving. When that promise was made, we were all expecting WWIII to break out just any moment...with tons and tons of bios, chems and radioactive materials drifting on the winds. I would have had to shave so my gas mask would seal properly to my face to protect me from all of that. This mess we're facing now won't be a 'World War' but a 'world AT war'. And yes, there is a difference. The enemy we'll be facing, for the most part, won't have the bio, chem or radioactive arsenal at their disposal...so shaving is not as necessary as it was with the other scenario. Also, with today's technology...I seriously doubt I would have the time to shave, take a picture of my face and post it here...so, instead, I will post a very old picture I found of me without a beard. In it, I'm wearing my Army 'Class A' uniform...

As far as the 'End Times' is concerned...I believe we've been in them for a number of years now. I believe President Trump is God's 'Last chance, America' warning to us and the world at large.

BINGO! BINGO! and BINGO!!! Nailed it, Cappy!
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
And it took me a while, but I finally found that 'news' article that states that Trump is replacing the head of CBP with a man who is 'tougher'...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immi...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.23381cb600ab

And 2 'clips' of the important part...


""President Trump said Friday that he wants someone “tougher” to lead the country’s top immigration enforcement agency, unexpectedly dumping his own nominee for the job to cap a week during which he repeatedly threatened to close the U.S.-Mexico border amid soaring numbers of illegal crossings.""

"" “Ron’s a good man,” Trump told reporters as he left for the trip. “But we’re going in a tougher direction. We want to go in a tougher direction.” ""
 

sunny225

Membership Revoked
Anyone know what has happened with all those thousands of sealed indictments? I haven't heard anything else about them lately. Or ever.
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
I thought it was overturning Roe v Wade.

You've said he said this many times, so verifiable proof should be easy to find. I've asked you several times in the past to provide legitimate proof he said this. You have yet to respond.

He never said this.

Put up or shut up.
 

TammyinWI

Talk is cheap
Oh I have responded if I saw it.

It is easily verifiable.

But since you will not go do a search, i did, and these results are not in the entirety... and: from dogpile.com

Trump vows that he will overturn Roe v. Wade ...
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/137950/trump-vows-will-overturn...
Trump vows that he will overturn Roe v. Wade “automatically.” He affirmed that, if elected, he would appoint only pro-life justices to the Supreme Court and that Roe v.

Neil Gorsuch Is Trump's First Step in Overturning Roe v. Wade
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/01/supreme-court-nominee-neil...
Supreme Court Nominee Neil Gorsuch Is a Down Payment on Trump’s Promise to Overturn Roe v. Wade. Jordan Smith. Jordan Smith. February 1 2017, 4:17 p.m.

Trump Says He Wants Roe v. Wade Overturned, Mainstream ...
https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2016/11/15/trump-says-he...
Trump Says He Wants Roe v. Wade Overturned, Mainstream Media Ignore The ... would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, Trump didn’t even feign interest in whether there’s a right to abortion in the ...

Donald Trump Promises To Appoint Anti-Abortion Justices To ...
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-abortion-supreme...
Trump's promise sharply raises the stakes for women in the 2016 presidential election. Before Roe v. Wade, abortion was illegal in the United States, forcing an estimated 200,000 to 1.2 million ...

...and from Ixquick.com...just a few results, from a search: "trump promises to overturn roe v wade"

Trump vows that he will overturn Roe v. Wade “automatically.” | The ...


https://newrepublic.com/minutes/137950/trump-vows-will-overturn-roe-v-wade-automatically
During the beginning of the third presidential debate, Trump came out hard against abortion. He affirmed that, if elected, he would appoint only pro-life justices to ...

Which Trump Should Be Believed On Overturning Roe v. Wade?
https://www.wglt.org/post/which-trump-should-be-believed...
President Trump has vowed not to ask prospective members of the Supreme Court about their views on Roe v.Wade, the basis for legal abortion nationwide since 1973 and the most widely discussed legal case in America in the past half-century.. President Trump also made a rather different promise to voters in 2016 in his third televised debate with Hillary Clinton.


Boy, folks seem to have short memories.

Do you want me to search for you for "Trump says he will repeal Obamacare" and "Trump will lock up Hillary" and "Trump said that he will build the wall?"

He said these things many, many, many times. Certainly you must have at least a vague memory of some of his campaign promises?
 
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sunny225

Membership Revoked
Oh I have responded if I saw it.

It is easily verifiable.

But since you will not go do a search, i did, and these results are not in the entirety... and: from dogpile.com

Trump vows that he will overturn Roe v. Wade ...
https://newrepublic.com/minutes/137950/trump-vows-will-overturn...
Trump vows that he will overturn Roe v. Wade “automatically.” He affirmed that, if elected, he would appoint only pro-life justices to the Supreme Court and that Roe v.

Neil Gorsuch Is Trump's First Step in Overturning Roe v. Wade
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/01/supreme-court-nominee-neil...
Supreme Court Nominee Neil Gorsuch Is a Down Payment on Trump’s Promise to Overturn Roe v. Wade. Jordan Smith. Jordan Smith. February 1 2017, 4:17 p.m.

Trump Says He Wants Roe v. Wade Overturned, Mainstream ...
https://www.mediamatters.org/research/2016/11/15/trump-says-he...
Trump Says He Wants Roe v. Wade Overturned, Mainstream Media Ignore The ... would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade, Trump didn’t even feign interest in whether there’s a right to abortion in the ...

Donald Trump Promises To Appoint Anti-Abortion Justices To ...
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-abortion-supreme...
Trump's promise sharply raises the stakes for women in the 2016 presidential election. Before Roe v. Wade, abortion was illegal in the United States, forcing an estimated 200,000 to 1.2 million ...

...and from Ixquick.com...just a few results, from a search: "trump promises to overturn roe v wade"

Trump vows that he will overturn Roe v. Wade “automatically.” | The ...


https://newrepublic.com/minutes/137950/trump-vows-will-overturn-roe-v-wade-automatically
During the beginning of the third presidential debate, Trump came out hard against abortion. He affirmed that, if elected, he would appoint only pro-life justices to ...

Which Trump Should Be Believed On Overturning Roe v. Wade?
https://www.wglt.org/post/which-trump-should-be-believed...
President Trump has vowed not to ask prospective members of the Supreme Court about their views on Roe v.Wade, the basis for legal abortion nationwide since 1973 and the most widely discussed legal case in America in the past half-century.. President Trump also made a rather different promise to voters in 2016 in his third televised debate with Hillary Clinton.


Boy, folks seem to have short memories.

Do you want me to search for "Trump says he will repeal Obamacare" and "Trump will lock up Hillary" and "Trump said that he will build the wall"

He said these things many, many, many time. Certainly you must have a vague memory of some of his campaign promises?

Some folks have their heads too far up his rear end to be able to remember anything he said and promised.
That, or they are just overlooking the fact that their 'lesser evil' has been lying his ass off and they really don't care a lick.
 
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