psychgirl
Has No Life - Lives on TB
This whole thing has gotten too peculiar. Nobody is following rules, science or common sense.
Utterly surreal.
Yes! Very ...unsettling... feelings I’m having right now.
This whole thing has gotten too peculiar. Nobody is following rules, science or common sense.
Utterly surreal.
Er... wasn't it WHO who was saying that stopping flights and forbidding from entering countries based solely on their country of origin "was unnecessary"?!
Summerthyme
~snip~Did WHO's China ties slow decision to declare emergency?
Beijing has contributed money and leadership to the UN agencyasia.nikkei.com
A source familiar with the WHO's decision-making acknowledged that the agency had to consider not just the infectiousness of the coronavirus, but the economic impact of declaring a health emergency. China accounted for 4% of global gross domestic product in 2003, a share that has since grown to 17%.
"China and the WHO have extremely close ties," a diplomatic source in Beijing said. China is the world's second-largest financial contributor to the U.N. The WHO's previous director-general, Margaret Chan, was nominated to the post by the Chinese government after spearheading Hong Kong's response to SARS.
Using its diplomatic weight, China has blocked Taiwan's attendance at the WHO's annual health assembly since 2017, the year after China skeptic Tsai Ing-wen became the island's president.
China also provides significant aid to Ethiopia, the home country of current WHO chief Tedros. And Xi's wife, Peng Liyuan, is a longtime WHO goodwill ambassador for tuberculosis and HIV/AIDS.
While declaring an emergency, Tedros did hold back from imposing travel or trade restrictions. "There is no reason for measures that unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade," he said Thursday in Geneva.
NY Times reporter's twitter feed:
Farnaz Fassihi
@farnazfassihi
#Iran coronavirus: Dr. Ghadir, top health official in Qom now infected, tells State TV: The health ministry ordered Qom officials "not to publish statistics" related to coronavirus. Wow.
Article from January. I wonder if they're going to regret the invitation.
'Security is not a problem': Tehran invites Chinese tourists to spend Lunar New Year in Iran
by Joel Gehrke
January 10, 2020 03:55 PM
Iran invited Chinese tourists to visit Tehran, just days after a military confrontation with the United States.
“Rest assured, Chinese friends can spend the New Year holiday in Iran,” the Iranian Embassy in Beijing announced on Friday, referring to China's Jan. 24 Lunar New Year Day. “Security is not a problem.”
Iranian officials coupled the invitation with a boast about the ballistic missile strike against U.S. troops in Iraq. The strike resulted in no casualties but was a high-profile response to the killing of Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani. In its online post, Iran reveled in how Chinese social media users denounced the U.S. and supported Tehran. “At this special moment, we deeply feel warm from the comments of Chinese internet users, and we’d like very much to say thank you,” the embassy wrote.
The travel invitation may not bring the desired results, one expert said.
“I don’t think too many Chinese tourists are going to be rushing to Iran after the Iranians downed, or apparently downed, that Ukrainian airline,” James Phillips, a Middle East analyst at the Heritage Foundation, told the Washington Examiner.
Iran denies responsibility for the incident, saying that the Ukrainian International Airlines jet crashed shortly after take-off from Tehran as a result of a mechanical failure. Western officials believe it was shot down by mistake. The plane carried 176 people, including more than 80 Iranians and dozens of Canadian citizens.
Still, the embassy's invitation underscores how Iran and China cooperate on the international stage, especially when given the chance to align against the U.S.. “We have delivered a slap in the face to the US’s military adventurism,” the Iranian embassy tweeted. “We have also exercised the utmost restraint.”
The tourism bid came just weeks after a joint naval exercise last month involving China, Russia, and Iran. Analysts caution, though, against reading too much into the theatrics.
“The Chinese are very calculating about their global interests,” Jon Alterman, director of the Middle East Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, told the Washington Examiner. “And while China is central to Iran, Iran is an afterthought to China.”
Isaiah 24:6
theories have suggested everything from the lab accidentally releasing the virus to speculation that the virus might have been deliberately designed as a biological weapon.
This whole thing has gotten too peculiar. Nobody is following rules, science or common sense.
Utterly surreal.
Here it is, rt 1:12First, yes I tried a search. But I no longer remember who posted this--only that it was a video posted from a TWITTER link....and the word "screaming" brought out only unrelated threads, and of course "Wuhan" ----well, you know.
SO---can anyone tell me in WHAT POST (I first saw it yesterday evening, but it may have been posted up to 2 days prior to that--that's how far behind I usually stay on this thread which adds 5-10 pages a day) ---
WHERE is the post with the twitter of Wuhan apartment buildings, with residents SCREAMING their despair into the night?
I wanted to show that to my husband.
Thanks.
First, yes I tried a search. But I no longer remember who posted this--only that it was a video posted from a TWITTER link....and the word "screaming" brought out only unrelated threads, and of course "Wuhan" ----well, you know.
SO---can anyone tell me in WHAT POST (I first saw it yesterday evening, but it may have been posted up to 2 days prior to that--that's how far behind I usually stay on this thread which adds 5-10 pages a day) ---
WHERE is the post with the twitter of Wuhan apartment buildings, with residents SCREAMING their despair into the night?
I wanted to show that to my husband.
Thanks.
I think it was BOTH---
It WAS being experimented on as a "possible" biological weapon
The animals used were reading for "dumping"
Instead of incinerating them, some low-level idiot thought he'd make a quick profit selling them to the wet-market
And a biologically weaponized monster escapes..............
THANK you!
8 min ago
US senators will be briefed tomorrow on coronavirus
From CNN's Manu Raju
All US senators will be briefed Tuesday morning at 8 a.m. in a classified setting on the novel coronavirus, two sources with knowledge of the plans tell CNN.
One source said that the briefing will be in a classified setting because the senators who are organizing it wanted to be prepared in case a senator asks a question that can only be answered in a classified setting
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There will be briefers from the Department of Health and Human Services, Department of Homeland Security, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Institutes of Health and the State Department, one source added.
===February 24, 2020 coronavirus news
www.cnn.com
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Thank you, Mz Kitty! I thought it was one of yours! I wish I was a good on Twitter as you are, but I just leave that to the EXPERT! Thanks again!I posted it last night. Post #17733.
I hate being lied to and truth purposefully being kept from me.New cases "very concerning" but coronavirus is not pandemic, WHO says...(1:20)
View: https://youtu.be/DnuCItbLssQ
Ask the Chinese bio lab. They know a lot about leaking.So how fast is that going to get leaked?
I have to question the authenticity of these sorts of "reporting." Sick people and those in the company of the sick, especially the elderly, simply don't make this much racket.
Expert: Chinese Scientists Sell Lab Animals as Meat on the Black Market
STR/AFP via Getty Images
By John Hayward 24 Feb 2020
Population Research Institute President Steven W. Mosher wrote at the New York Post on Saturday that China’s coronavirus epidemic could have been unleashed by researchers who sold laboratory animals to the notorious “wet markets” of Wuhan for extra cash.
Mosher is not the first skeptic of Beijing’s official coronavirus narrative to note the presence of an advanced microbiology lab near Wuhan, the city where the epidemic originated. Since the early days of the crisis, theories have suggested everything from the lab accidentally releasing the virus to speculation that the virus might have been deliberately designed as a biological weapon.
His theory cited as evidence the release of new guidelines from the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology calling for “strengthening biosecurity management in microbiology labs that handle advanced viruses like the novel coronavirus.”
As Mosher pointed out, the facility near Wuhan is the only Level 4 microbiology lab in China, so the new directive was implicitly directed at the Wuhan facility, which further implies the Ministry of Science and Technology has reason to believe its containment procedures need to be strengthened.
He also noted that Maj. Gen. Chen Wei, the Chinese military’s top expert in biological warfare, was dispatched to Wuhan in January to deal with the crisis, and her background includes extensive research on coronaviruses.
“This would not be her first trip to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, either, since it is one of only two bioweapons research labs in all of China,” he said of Chen’s relationship with the lab.
The novel twist to Mosher’s theory is that Chinese lab technicians have an unfortunate history of selling experimental animals to vendors such as the ones that ply their trade in Wuhan’s wet market:
Skepticism about China’s official history of the coronavirus outbreak generally begins with noting that fully a third of the early coronavirus cases documented in December had no connection with the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan, which closed at the beginning of January after it was identified as ground zero of the epidemic.
The Huanan market certainly looked like the sort of operation that an epidemic might spread from, as it sold seafood and meat alongside live chickens, donkeys, pigs, rats, snakes, and other animals. “Wet markets” derive their name from the practice of killing and butchering live animals while customers watch.
The Wuhan virus appears genetically similar to diseases that have been spread by bats in the past, but there has not been any firm confirmation of which animal might have carried the disease or spread it to humans. In fact, a report published by a Chinese research team on Monday raised questions about whether the virus actually jumped from animals to humans at all.
Expert: Chinese Scientists Sell Lab Animals as Meat on the Black Market
Population Research Institute President Steven Mosher suggests the Wuhan virus might have spread from lab animals sold on the black market.www.breitbart.com
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8 min ago
US senators will be briefed tomorrow on coronavirus
From CNN's Manu Raju
All US senators will be briefed Tuesday morning at 8 a.m. in a classified setting on the novel coronavirus, two sources with knowledge of the plans tell CNN.
One source said that the briefing will be in a classified setting because the senators who are organizing it wanted to be prepared in case a senator asks a question that can only be answered in a classified setting
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There will be briefers from the Department of Health and Human Services, Department of Homeland Security, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, National Institutes of Health and the State Department, one source added.
===February 24, 2020 coronavirus news
www.cnn.com
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It’s the one time I would like to see Adam Schiff leak somethingSo how fast is that going to get leaked?
It's been happening to me...post at bottom of page, click on next page, post is there also.THANK you!
(Do I have something set wrong? For instance, I am seeing a new post I just put in a while ago, #18327---TWICE on this SAME page. And just now when I scrolled back up--it was only there once. I keep seeing this happen--posts seem to not stay on one page but to "migrate" to different pages as I scroll back and forth trying to find something. It's very frustrating.)
You nailed it. Someone sold the animals they used in the weapons lab to the wet market. This is before they had developed a vaccine. So it was an accident. Somebody just trying to make a few extra bucks.Based on my reading/research this is exactly what happened. In all probability, the research was not complete as no vaccine had been developed. God help us all....
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I have to question the authenticity of these sorts of "reporting." Sick people and those in the company of the sick, especially the elderly, simply don't make this much racket.
THANK you!
(Do I have something set wrong? For instance, I am seeing a new post I just put in a while ago, #18327---TWICE on this SAME page. And just now when I scrolled back up--it was only there once. I keep seeing this happen--posts seem to not stay on one page but to "migrate" to different pages as I scroll back and forth trying to find something. It's very frustrating.)
It's been happening to me...post at bottom of page, click on next page, post is there also.
I have to question the authenticity of these sorts of "reporting." Sick people and those in the company of the sick, especially the elderly, simply don't make this much racket.
It's been happening to me...post at bottom of page, click on next page, post is there also.
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I have to question the authenticity of these sorts of "reporting." Sick people and those in the company of the sick, especially the elderly, simply don't make this much racket.
No, but those greiving the death of their children and spouses do.
So do children who have lost their parents.
That is useful information if in fact accurate. Thank you for posting.I would assume this has been discussed here, but I don't recall it. Regardless, this is kind of interesting. Accurate? I dunno, just throwing it out there:
Coronavirus Age, Sex, Demographics (COVID-19) - Worldometer
Age, sex, demographic characteristics such as pre-existing conditions, of coronavirus cases of patients infected with COVID-19 and deaths, as observed in studies on the virus outbreak originating from Wuhan, Chinawww.worldometers.info
COVID-19 Fatality Rate by AGE:
*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on the age group. The percentage shown below does NOT represent in any way the share of deaths by age group. Rather, it represents, for a person in a given age group, the risk of dying if infected with COVID-19.
*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%).
AGEDEATH RATE* 80+ years old 14.8% 70-79 years old 8.0% 60-69 years old 3.6% 50-59 years old 1.3% 40-49 years old 0.4% 30-39 years old 0.2% 20-29 years old 0.2% 10-19 years old 0.2%0-9 years old no fatalities
In general, relatively few cases are seen among children.
COVID-19 Fatality Rate by SEX:
*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on sex. When reading these numbers, it must be taken into account that smoking in China is much more prevalent among males. Smoking increases the risks of respiratory complications.
*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%).
SEXDEATH RATE * Male 2.8% Female 1.7%
Pre-existing medical conditions (comorbidities)
Patients who reported no pre-existing ("comorbid") medical conditions had a case fatality rate of 0.9%. Pre-existing illnesses that put patients at higher risk of dying from a COVID-19 infection are:
COVID-19 Fatality Rate by COMORBIDITY:
*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%). This probability differs depending on pre-existing condition. The percentage shown below does NOT represent in any way the share of deaths by pre-existing condition. Rather, it represents, for a patient with a given pre-existing condition, the risk of dying if infected by COVID-19.
*Death Rate = (number of deaths / number of cases) = probability of dying if infected by the virus (%).
PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONDEATH RATE* Cardiovascular disease 10.5% Diabetes 7.3% Chronic respiratory disease 6.3% Hypertension 6.0% Cancer 5.6% no pre-existing conditions 0.9%