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Doomer Doug

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Hey, this thread, or our daily dose of doom, to paraphrase the mad desert vet, goes much better with Johnny Cash, the man, singing the song. Yep, Housecarl I got my headphones on, we are all doomed, and Johnny is singing, if you got to die then this is the way to do it. I also got a new picture, and I mean what can go wrong with Godzilla in the mix?
 
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Limbaugh: Coronavirus Being 'Weaponized' to Bring Down Trump

Limbaugh: Coronavirus Being ‘Weaponized’ to Bring Down Trump
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Pam Key24 Feb 20203,198
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Syndicated conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh on his Monday broadcast warned coronavirus was being hyped by “the drive-by media” to bring down President Donald Trump.

Limbaugh said, “It looks like the coronavirus is being weaponized as yet another element to bring down Donald Trump. I want to tell you the truth about the coronavirus.”

He continued, “The coronavirus is the common cold, folks. The drive-by media hype of this thing as a pandemic, as the Andromeda strain, as, ‘Oh my God, if you get it, you’re dead,’ do you know what the — I think the survival rate is Ninety-eight percent. Ninety-eight percent of people who get the coronavirus survive. It’s a respiratory system virus. It probably is a ChiCom laboratory experiment that is in the process of being weaponized. All superpower nations weaponize bioweapons. They experiment with them. The Russians, for example, have weaponized fentanyl. Now fentanyl is also not what it is represented to be.”

He added, “I’m not trying to get you to let your guard down. Nobody wants to get any of this stuff. I mean, you never —I hate getting the common cold. You don’t want to get the flu. It’s miserable. But we’re not talking about something here that’s going to wipe out your town or your city if it finds its way there. This is a classic illustration of how media coverage — even if this media coverage isn’t stacked — even if this just the way media normally does things. This is a hyped, panic-filled version. Exactly how the media deals with these things to create audience, readership, interest, clicks what have you.”
 
Tom McDowell

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Feb 25, 2020 07:07 AM
SOCIETY & CULTURE
Exclusive: Cluster of Death Found at Wuhan Nursing Home Near Seafood Market

By Cao Wenjiao and Denise Jia

An old man sits on a bench in Wuhan on February 5, 2020. Photo: Bloomberg

An old man sits on a bench in Wuhan on February 5, 2020. Photo: Bloomberg


At least 19 people, mostly seniors, died in a social welfare facility in Wuhan located just one block away from the seafood market where the deadly Covid-19 outbreak is suspected to have originated, even though the local government acknowledged only one death from the virus.

As of last Thursday, 11 seniors died from respiratory failure after recurrent fevers, a nurse at Wuhan Social Welfare Institute told Caixin. She said the facility’s infirmary didn’t have Covid-19 testing capability and many medical workers have had fever symptoms. The facility recently arranged chest CT scans at a nearby hospital for residents and staff. A scan report the nurse showed a Caixin reporter states that the patient has multiple patchy ground-glass shadows in the lungs, similar to many confirmed Covid-19 cases.

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A CT scan shows the patient has multiple patchy ground-glass shadows in the lungs. Photo: Caixin​

Unexplained deaths from lung ailments among the elderly at the Wuhan Social Welfare Institute and similar facilities suggest that nursing homes may be another blind spot as the government’s epidemic-fighting efforts have focused on hospitals and other communities. Last week it came to light that Chinese prisons reported more than 500 previously uncounted Covid-19 cases among guards and inmates.

At least two other nursing homes in Wuhan also recorded deaths either possibly from the virus or confirmed cases. A family member of an 85-year-old resident at Gu Tian Rong Ji Nursing Center told Caixin his mother died at the nursing home and the family suspected she was infected by a care worker. The head of the nursing home acknowledged that one of the caregivers was confirmed with the coronavirus but denied that the deceased resident was infected by the worker.

Another community senior care center with about 40 residents also found eight tested positive for the virus. The rest of the residents and staff are quarantined at the center and no visitors are allowed, a community worker said.

The Wuhan Civil Affairs Bureau disputed the report about the Wuhan Social Welfare Institute Friday night through the government’s official WeChat account, saying the facility checked its residents and staff and found that 11 seniors tested positive for the virus and one of them died while being transferred to a hospital.

According to the government response, the welfare facility started testing residents and staff Feb. 11, although Caixin learned from sources that multiple seniors died between late December and Feb. 19 after showing virus symptoms such as fever, breathing difficulty and loss of appetite.

After Wuhan tightened quarantine measures to restrict people from leaving their homes and to send the sick into makeshift quarantine quarters, many people lost contact with elderly family members in nursing homes. Family members of people in nursing homes say they have been trying to find out how many residents may be infected, where the elderly are quarantined, whether there are caregivers, what test results show and whether the government can send more medical and care staff to institutions.

A list of the dead at the social welfare facility obtained by Caixin showed 15 fatalities between Dec. 23 and Feb. 11 and four more Feb. 18. Of the total of 19 fatalities, only the death of an 83-year-old male Feb. 15 was clearly linked to Covid-19. Eight others were attributed to infections, including six to lung infections and two deaths from shock caused by infection. The remaining 10 fatalities were reportedly from other causes, and five of them took place before Feb. 11 when the nursing home started testing for Covid-19.

The nursing home never before had so many deaths in such a short time, according to a staff member who has worked there many years. Except for one 27-year-old female with cholecystitis, all of the 18 others on the fatalities list were in their 80s and 90s and most had diabetes, high blood pressure, stroke or disabilities, according to the list.

The facility, just a few hundred yards from the seafood market that may have been the starting point of the outbreak, is a combination senior hospital and nursing home. It is home to 458 senior residents with 190 staff, 21 property management personnel and eight care workers. The facility has been sealed off since Jan. 21 as local authorities stepped up efforts to contain the outbreak. All staff have been asked to stay in the facility.

A doctor in the welfare facility’s infirmary said he participated in the treatment of a patient in late December who had a fever as high as 107.6 degrees Fahrenheit (42 degrees Celsius). The patient died from septic shock possibly caused by infection, but the cause of infection was unknown because no virus check was done, according to the doctor, who was later confirmed infected with Covid-19 himself.

The doctor said he treated three seniors who died since late December. Several doctors, nurses and attendants have also shown symptoms of lung infection, the doctor said.

A care worker said more than 10 seniors died during the Lunar New Year holiday. At first, they had fever and lost appetite. Those with recurrent fevers were transferred to quarantine rooms but died after a couple of days, the worker said.
“Since they were never confirmed with tests, we don’t know whether they died from the virus,” the worker said. “But before the outbreak, even though many of the seniors at the nursing home have chronic diseases, we have never seen so many deaths in such a short time.”

A family member with the last name Zhu said he was told his 92-year-old father died from a heart attack Feb. 11 in the infirmary. The nursing home called the son Feb. 9, telling him to take his father to a hospital because he had a fever of 103 degrees Fahrenheit. As the son had a fever himself and his community was locked down, he couldn’t come to the nursing home.

Some family members of deceased seniors told Caixin that the nursing home didn’t take sufficient protective measures and residents were not even asked to wear masks.

The doctor at the infirmary said the nursing home wasn’t sealed off until Jan. 21, when the outbreak was already spreading quickly in the city. Because it was close to the Lunar New Year, there were many visitors at the nursing home every day. It hasn’t been ruled out that visiting family members might have brought the virus into the nursing home, the doctor said.
A medical worker at the nursing home said it’s also difficult to implement quarantine measures because of staff shortages and residents with dementia.

Hubei Vice Governor Wan Yong emphasized Saturday on a video conference that nursing homes face severe situations as the elderly are at high risk of infection. The Wuhan Civil Affairs Bureau said Friday that it aimed to finish screening tests on every person in nursing facilities that have found confirmed or suspected vases by Saturday and will finish tests in all other nursing facilities by Feb. 28.

Bao Zhiming, Xiao Hui, Gao Yu contributed to this report.
Contact reporter Denise Jia (huijuanjia@caixin.com) and editor Bob Simison (bobsimison@caixin.com)

Exclusive: Cluster of Death Found at Wuhan Nursing Home Near Seafood Market - Caixin Global

Exclusive: Cluster of Death Found at Wuhan Nursing Home Near Seafood Market - Among 19 fatalities since Dec. 23, Wuhan Social Welfare Institute reported 1 Covid-19 case though 10 others died from respiratory failure after fever symptoms
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Doomer Doug said:
Hey, this thread, or our daily dose of doom, to paraphrase the mad desert vet, goes much better with Johnny Cash, the man, singing the song. Yep, Housecarl I got my headphones on, we are all doomed, and Johnny is singing, if you got to die then this is the way to do it. I also got a new picture, and I mean what can go wrong with Godzilla in the mix?
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GREAT, now I have to change my handle to The Mad Desertvet....LOL!
 
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‘Recipe for a Massive Viral Outbreak’: Iran emerges as a worldwide coronavirus threat

‘Recipe for a Massive Viral Outbreak’: Iran emerges as a worldwide coronavirus threat

  • By David D. Kirkpatrick, Farnaz Fassihi and Mujib Mashal New York Times
  • Today
  • Updated 6:52 pm

  • ASSOCIATED PRESS A policeman and pedestrians wear masks to help guard against the coronavirus in Tehran, Iran, on Sunday.

    ASSOCIATED PRESS

    A policeman and pedestrians wear masks to help guard against the coronavirus in Tehran, Iran, on Sunday.



Religious pilgrims, migrant workers, businessmen, soldiers and clerics all flow constantly across Iran’s frontiers, often crossing into countries with few border controls, weak and ineffective governments and fragile health systems.

Now, as it struggles to contain the spread of the coronavirus, Iran is also emerging as the second focal point after China for the spread of the disease. Cases in Iraq, Afghanistan, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Lebanon, the United Arab Emirates — even one in Canada — have all been traced to Iran, sending tremors of fear rippling out from Kabul to Beirut.

The Middle East is in many ways the perfect place to spawn a pandemic, experts say, with the constant circulation of both Muslim pilgrims and itinerant workers who might carry the virus. Iran’s economy has been strangled by sanctions, its people have lost trust in their government and its leaders are isolated from much of the world, providing little clarity about the extent of the epidemic.

Civil wars or years of unrest have shattered the health systems of several neighboring countries, like Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen. And most of the region is governed largely by authoritarians with poor track records at providing public transparency, accountability and health services.

“It is a recipe for a massive viral outbreak,” said Peter Piot, director of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and the former founding executive director of the Joint United Nations Program on HIV/AIDS.

Millions of Muslim pilgrims travel each year from around the region to visit Shiite holy sites in Iran and Iraq. In January alone, 30,000 people returned to Afghanistan from Iran, and hundreds of others continue to make the pilgrimage to Qom, the site of the outbreak, every week, Afghan officials say.

Iraq closed its border with Iran on Saturday, but millions cross it every year. So scores of infected people could potentially have brought the virus to Iraq, depending on how long it has been present in Iran. And as of midday Monday in Najaf, flights to and from Iran were still taking off and landing.

Al Jubori, the head of the Iraqi Parliament’s Health and Environment Committee, called the coronavirus “a plague” and said his committee was demanding a far more complete closure of all borders with Iran. “Land, sea and air until the disease is completely controlled.”

Iran’s health ministry sent a letter to the governor of Qom on Thursday and asked Shiite religious leaders to limit the number of pilgrims at the Shrine to Fatima Masumeh and other religious sites in the city, but as of early Tuesday, throngs of people still gathered around the shrine, touching it and taking part in communal prayers.

Iran is in many ways a case study in the risks of the disease spreading. The country reported its first case of the coronavirus less than a week ago, in Qom. On Monday health officials reported that four people had died there in the last day, bringing the total to 12. At least 61 others had been infected in Iran, the officials said, with new cases being reported in Isfahan, Hamedan and other cities, as well as in Qom.

Now the slow drip of news about the spread of the virus is compounding Tehran’s already acute credibility problems, less than two months after officials were forced to admit lying about their knowledge of the accidental downing of a Ukrainian passenger jet by air defense systems. Many Iranians on Monday were openly skeptical about the official accounts of the spread of the virus.



A member of Parliament representing Qom claimed on Monday that at least 50 people had already died there, including 34 in quarantine, and that the first case had been reported more than two weeks before officials acknowledged any infections.
“Every day 10 people are dying in Qom,” the lawmaker, Ahmad Amiri Farahani, asserted in a speech to Parliament, demanding a quarantine on his city.

Health Ministry officials vehemently disputed his claims. “I will resign if the numbers are even half or a quarter of this,” said Ahmad Harirchi, adviser to the health minister.

Adding to the public anxiety, the Iranian news media reported that Dr. Mohamad Reza Ghadir, the head of a medical university in Qom and the top official in charge of managing the outbreak there, was among those placed in quarantine.
On Monday, Ghadir said on Iran’s state television network that the Health Ministry had ordered city officials “not to publish any statistics” related to the outbreak in Qom. The situation there was “very dire and disease has spread across the city, ” he said.

Iranians, distrusting the authorities, were ignoring official urgings to stay away from hospitals for fear of spreading the disease, instead crowding into emergency rooms to be tested. Imam Khomeini Hospital in Tehran put up a triage tent outside to handle the overflow.

In an interview with BBC Persian from Tehran, Dr. Babak Gharaye Moghadam urged citizens to “please, please listen” to the advice of health officials and not to turn to social media feeds on their cellphones for guidance.

The price of hospital masks was spiking across the region, including in Iran, Iraq, Lebanon and Afghanistan, where some were selling for as much as 30 times the usual cost.

Experts worry that few Middle Eastern countries are ready to respond effectively to the threat posed by the virus.
“How ready are these countries?” asked Dr. Montaser Bilbisi, an American-trained infectious disease specialist practicing in Amman, Jordan. “In all honesty, I have not seen the level of readiness that I have seen in China or elsewhere, and even some of the personal protective equipment is lacking.”

In Jordan, for example, he said that he had not yet seen a fully protective hazardous materials suit. “So health care workers would be at very high risk for infection.”

In Afghanistan, officials said the first confirmed case of the virus was a 35-year old man from the western province of Herat who had recently traveled to Qom.

Health officials declared a state of emergency in Herat. The government on Sunday had already suspended all air and ground travel to and from Iran.

But the border is difficult to seal.

Thousands cross every week for religious pilgrimages, trade, jobs and study — about 30,000 in January alone, the International Organization of Migration, an intergovernmental agency, reported.
“In the past two weeks, more than 1,000 people have visited or traveled to Qom from Herat, which means they come into closer contact with the virus,” the Afghan health minister, Ferozuddin Feroz, said Monday at a news conference in Kabul.
As officials offered reassurances that they were ordering more hospital masks, residents were panicking about what other precautions to take.

The son of a professor at a university in Herat, who returned three days ago from Iran, called a reporter for The New York Times on Monday asking what the procedure for quarantine was.

“My father doesn’t show any signs of corona, but he and our family are worried,” the son, Mohamad Iman, said. “He’s locked himself up in a room where he just reads books. He has asked us to leave him some food and water at the door, but to stay away.”

Saudi Arabia was the epicenter of a similar outbreak seven years ago, known as Middle East respiratory syndrome, or MERS, that was transmitted from camels to humans.

But even after seven years, Saudi Arabia, one of the richest countries in the world, has struggled to adapt state-of-the-art hygiene procedures to limit the spread of the virus within hospitals. A MERS outbreak last spring infected at least 61 people, killing eight of them.

“Many hospitals in Saudi Arabia have improved but some could still do better at prevention,” said Dr. David L. Heymann, former chairman of Britain’s Health Protection Agency.

In Iraq, the country with the most extensive border with Iran, only one case has been detected so far: that of a 22-year old Iranian religious student in Najaf, Suhail Mohammad Ali.

In the first comprehensive steps to combat the spread of the virus, the education department in Najaf on Monday postponed spring exams and the sacred Imam Ali Shrine was closed.

The central government’s Health Department recommended avoiding crowded places, kissing or shaking hands.
In Lebanon, a 41-year-old woman who had traveled to Qom on a religious pilgrimage landed in Beirut on Thursday night and was found Friday to have the virus. It was not until Monday, though, that the government issued an emergency plan, suggesting that travel to the affected areas be restricted and that arriving passengers be isolated at the airport if they showed symptoms.

But no definite restrictions were ordered; not all passengers landing in Beirut in recent days have been screened; and another two planes from Qom were allowed to land in Beirut on Monday. Passengers on the plane carrying the infected Lebanese woman from Qom were told to quarantine themselves at home.

The country’s health minister, Dr. Hamad Hasan, on Monday urged the Lebanese to stay calm. But Rabih Shaer, founder of a Lebanese nonprofit that campaigns against corruption, called the government’s sluggish response “irresponsible and criminal.”

“Already the Lebanese population lost trust that this political class can face all the problems,” he said. “And now, until today, they still haven’t taken the right measures. There’s no transparency, there’s no accountability.”
Dr. Nada Melhem, a virologist at the American University of Beirut who has been consulting with the Health Ministry, acknowledged that, “the level of panic in Lebanon is really high.”

“But with systematic follow-up, we will be able to contain it,” she added. “Are we going to have some gaps? We will definitely have some, but I hope we can limit them as much as we can.”
 
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Countrymouse said:
Two points about the above:

1. Maybe the above (which I bolded) is EXACTLY what they will be discussing doing in that CLOSED briefing tomorrow to the Senate;

2. Maybe when the lockdown IS put into effect, they'll be going door to door (as they are in China) not only to "identiy the sick" BUT TO IDENTIFY THOSE WHO ARE "HOARDING" FOOD
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Yes, the action plans on record already allow for assets to be noted and be commendeered. I'm sure we have those on record here, and it might prove interesting, and to show horrible foresight, if we dug around and began to discuss them- : (
 
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naegling62 said:
www.mprnews.org

Minnesota experts: It’s time families plan for COVID-19 outbreak

People should consider whether they have enough food at home and who will care for a sick family member, infectious disease experts in Minnesota say.
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Minnesota experts: It’s time families plan for COVID-19 outbreak
Dan Gunderson
Moorhead, Minn.
February 24, 2020 3:30 p.m.
Share story

A nurse checks on a patient in the isolation ward

A nurse checks on a patient in the isolation ward for 2019-nCoV patients at a hospital in Wuhan in central China's Hubei province on Feb. 6, 2020.
Chinatopix via AP file

So far, there are a few dozen confirmed cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus, in the United States.
But Minnesota Department of Health infectious disease director Kris Ehresmann said it's very likely there will be outbreaks of the virus here. And Michael Osterholm, an expert in infectious disease at the University of Minnesota, said people should assume the virus will hit hard.

Ehresmann said Monday that the state is well prepared to identify cases quickly and isolate them. But if cases are widespread, it's likely that schools, churches and other public meeting spaces would be closed.
"When we talk about shutting things down, we look at how can we use that strategy effectively to slow down the spread of the disease so that we can manage it better," she said.

Ehresmann said slowing the spread of a fast-moving virus can be critical to helping manage it. The World Health Organization has praised China for shutting down communities in an effort to slow the virus.

She explained why the speed with which the virus spreads is important: “Because if you have a really steep acceleration of new cases of disease, that has the potential to overwhelm your health care system."

Ehresmann said health officials are concerned about adequate supplies for hospitals in the event of a pandemic. Many hospitals are already handling a lot of patients from a busy influenza season, she said.
Osterholm, director of the university’s Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said people should plan for the worst.

"We're sure not trying to project doom and gloom,” he said. “But we have to be honest so that when people begin to see this unfold that they say, ‘Well, you know, we knew this could happen, and this is what we're going to do about it.’"

People read an information board.

People read an information board on the closure of the Cathedral of the Duomo of Milan due to security measures against the new coronavirus, COVID-19, in Milan on Monday.
Andreas Solaro | AFP via Getty Images file

Osterholm said there need to be plans for keeping basic infrastructure like electricity flowing and food supplies on store shelves if large numbers of people are sick. And families also need to have a plan.

"Families need to have plans for how they will stay in contact with each other,” he said. “Who's going to take care of Grandma if she gets sick? For single parent families, who's going to be there when the kids get sick or the or the mom or dad gets sick? That's the kind of thing right now that is really important that we need to begin to address, and you know we haven't."

Ehresmann said there are some simple but important things everyone can do to reduce the spread of a virus: Stay home when you're sick. Limit physical contact like handshakes.

And she said everyone should think about what they would need to care for sick family members at home.

“Just to make sure that you know you have some basic resources, in terms of foodstuffs and things like that,” she said. “So that if you would have family members get sick and you were unable to go out for a few days, do you have enough basic supplies to kind of keep going?"

Ehresmann and Osterholm both said no one should panic, but everyone should prepare.

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Truth - Refreshing isn't it.

Thank You - naegling62

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jward

jward

passin' thru
Doomer Doug said:
Hey, this thread, or our daily dose of doom, to paraphrase the mad desert vet, goes much better with Johnny Cash, the man, singing the song. Yep, Housecarl I got my headphones on, we are all doomed, and Johnny is singing, if you got to die then this is the way to do it. I also got a new picture, and I mean what can go wrong with Godzilla in the mix?
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Aww c'mon, first, I kinda dig that man & don't want his music meanin' death n destruction...but it's pretty passe to use em for this, we've had him as our anthem since at least 08. NEW STUFF. We need MORE DOOMaLiCIOUs music for this party!
...and plenty o' ice.
 
jward

jward

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Tom McDowell said:
Minnesota experts: It’s time families plan for COVID-19 outbreak
Dan Gunderson
Moorhead, Minn.
February 24, 2020 3:30 p.m.
Share story

A nurse checks on a patient in the isolation ward

A nurse checks on a patient in the isolation ward for 2019-nCoV patients at a hospital in Wuhan in central China's Hubei province on Feb. 6, 2020.
Chinatopix via AP file

So far, there are a few dozen confirmed cases of COVID-19, the disease caused by the new coronavirus, in the United States.
But Minnesota Department of Health infectious disease director Kris Ehresmann said it's very likely there will be outbreaks of the virus here. And Michael Osterholm, an expert in infectious disease at the University of Minnesota, said people should assume the virus will hit hard.

Ehresmann said Monday that the state is well prepared to identify cases quickly and isolate them. But if cases are widespread, it's likely that schools, churches and other public meeting spaces would be closed.
"When we talk about shutting things down, we look at how can we use that strategy effectively to slow down the spread of the disease so that we can manage it better," she said.

Ehresmann said slowing the spread of a fast-moving virus can be critical to helping manage it. The World Health Organization has praised China for shutting down communities in an effort to slow the virus.

She explained why the speed with which the virus spreads is important: “Because if you have a really steep acceleration of new cases of disease, that has the potential to overwhelm your health care system."

Ehresmann said health officials are concerned about adequate supplies for hospitals in the event of a pandemic. Many hospitals are already handling a lot of patients from a busy influenza season, she said.
Osterholm, director of the university’s Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy, said people should plan for the worst.

"We're sure not trying to project doom and gloom,” he said. “But we have to be honest so that when people begin to see this unfold that they say, ‘Well, you know, we knew this could happen, and this is what we're going to do about it.’"

People read an information board.

People read an information board on the closure of the Cathedral of the Duomo of Milan due to security measures against the new coronavirus, COVID-19, in Milan on Monday.
Andreas Solaro | AFP via Getty Images file

Osterholm said there need to be plans for keeping basic infrastructure like electricity flowing and food supplies on store shelves if large numbers of people are sick. And families also need to have a plan.

"Families need to have plans for how they will stay in contact with each other,” he said. “Who's going to take care of Grandma if she gets sick? For single parent families, who's going to be there when the kids get sick or the or the mom or dad gets sick? That's the kind of thing right now that is really important that we need to begin to address, and you know we haven't."

Ehresmann said there are some simple but important things everyone can do to reduce the spread of a virus: Stay home when you're sick. Limit physical contact like handshakes.

And she said everyone should think about what they would need to care for sick family members at home.

“Just to make sure that you know you have some basic resources, in terms of foodstuffs and things like that,” she said. “So that if you would have family members get sick and you were unable to go out for a few days, do you have enough basic supplies to kind of keep going?"

Ehresmann and Osterholm both said no one should panic, but everyone should prepare.

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Truth - Refreshing isn't it.

Thank You - naegling62

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Did you notice that thing I posted from the CDC themselves yesterday suggesting the same thing.??? That was a dot in my mind :srdot:
 
jward

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Chris Sommerfeldt
@C_Sommerfeldt
54m

More than eight hours later, the second-in-command at the Department of Homeland Security has somehow not deleted these tweets in which he asks the Internet for help on how to track the #coronavirus. It’s a brave new world.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1232157457109180417
View: https://twitter.com/C_Sommerfeldt/status/1232157457109180417?s=20


House posted this article too:

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CarolynA said:
About lab animals being used for food. Well, it has happened right here in the US of A! In 1972 I worked at HP near Stanford University. We would all go to lunch at a great little hamburger place nearby. On Wednesdays they had "special" Parisian burgers for 38 cents. Regular hamburgers were 50 cents. One day we went there and it was closed. There was police tape around the building. The next morning there was a front page article about the fact that the owner was using 25% lab rat meat in the burgers. He claimed they were the control rats. Sure. I have always wondered what in the hell chemicals we ate. Oh well. The burgers were great and I'm still above ground.
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No idea where those really long whiskers and scaly tail of yours came from?
 
Tom McDowell

Tom McDowell

BAMN
Tidbits from the San Fransisco Chron

12:08 p.m. 8,000 in California now self-quarantined: Some 8,000 people across the state have quarantined themselves, the California Department of Public Health told The Chronicle. That’s up from 6,700 last week. The federal government has asked people who returned from China, which has the highest number of coronavirus cases, to stay home from work and avoid big crowds.


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11:38 a.m. Pelosi visits Chinatown: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is touring Chinatown to assure people that it’s safe to visit despite the coronavirus. She visited the Tin How Temple, followed by the Golden Gate Fortune Cookie Factory, whose owner Kevin Chan, says his business and others are down 70%.

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www.sfchronicle.com

Coronavirus in the Bay Area: The key events unfolding from Feb 20 to Feb 25

Self-quarantine numbers rise again, SF mayor declares emergency, markets fall after CDC...
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jward

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You’re Likely to Get the Coronavirus

Most cases are not life-threatening, which is also what makes the virus a historic challenge to contain.
James Hamblin February 24, 2020


In May 1997, a 3-year-old boy developed what at first seemed like the common cold. When his symptoms—sore throat, fever, and cough—persisted for six days, he was taken to the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Hong Kong. There his cough worsened, and he began gasping for air. Despite intensive care, the boy died.

Puzzled by his rapid deterioration, doctors sent a sample of the boy’s sputum to China’s Department of Health. But the standard testing protocol couldn’t fully identify the virus that had caused the disease. The chief virologist decided to ship some of the sample to colleagues in other countries.
At the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, the boy’s sputum sat for a month, waiting for its turn in a slow process of antibody-matching analysis. The results eventually confirmed that this was a variant of influenza, the virus that has killed more people than any in history. But this type had never before been seen in humans. It was H5N1, or “avian flu,” discovered two decades prior, but known only to infect birds.
By then, it was August. Scientists sent distress signals around the world. The Chinese government swiftly killed 1.5 million chickens (over the protests of chicken farmers). Further cases were closely monitored and isolated. By the end of the year there were 18 known cases in humans. Six people died.

This was seen as a successful global response, and the virus was not seen again for years. In part, containment was possible because the disease was so severe: Those who got it became manifestly, extremely ill. H5N1 has a fatality rate of around 60 percent—if you get it, you’re likely to die. Yet since 2003, the virus has killed only 455 people. The much “milder” flu viruses, by contrast, kill fewer than 0.1 percent of people they infect, on average, but are responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths every year.
Severe illness caused by viruses such as H5N1 also means that infected people can be identified and isolated, or that they died quickly. They do not walk around feeling just a little under the weather, seeding the virus. The new coronavirus (known technically as SARS-CoV-2) that has been spreading around the world can cause a respiratory illness that can be severe. The disease (known as COVID-19) seems to have a fatality rate of less than 2 percent—exponentially lower than most outbreaks that make global news. The virus has raised alarm not despite that low fatality rate, but because of it.

Coronaviruses are similar to influenza viruses in that they are both single strands of RNA. Four coronaviruses commonly infect humans, causing colds. These are believed to have evolved in humans to maximize their own spread—which means sickening, but not killing, people. By contrast, the two prior novel coronavirus outbreaks—SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome) and MERS (Middle East respiratory syndrome, named for where the first outbreak occurred)—were picked up from animals, as was H5N1. These diseases were highly fatal to humans. If there were mild or asymptomatic cases, they were extremely few. Had there been more of them, the disease would have spread widely. Ultimately, SARS and MERS each killed fewer than 1,000 people.
COVID-19 is already reported to have killed more than twice that number. With its potent mix of characteristics, this virus is unlike most that capture popular attention: It is deadly, but not too deadly. It makes people sick, but not in predictable, uniquely identifiable ways. Last week, 14 Americans tested positive on a cruise ship in Japan despite feeling fine—the new virus may be most dangerous because, it seems, it may sometimes cause no symptoms at all.

Read: The new coronavirus is a truly modern epidemic
The world has responded with unprecedented speed and mobilization of resources. The new virus was identified extremely quickly. Its genome was sequenced by Chinese scientists and shared around the world within weeks. The global scientific community has shared genomic and clinical data at unprecedented rates. Work on a vaccine is well under way. The Chinese government enacted dramatic containment measures, and the World Health Organization declared an emergency of international concern. All of this happened in a fraction of the time it took to even identify H5N1 in 1997. And yet the outbreak continues to spread.





The Harvard epidemiology professor Marc Lipsitch is exacting in his diction, even for an epidemiologist. Twice in our conversation he started to say something, then paused and said, “Actually, let me start again.” So it’s striking when one of the points he wanted to get exactly right was this: “I think the likely outcome is that it will ultimately not be containable.”

Containment is the first step in responding to any outbreak. In the case of COVID-19, the possibility (however implausible) of preventing a pandemic seemed to play out in a matter of days. Starting in January, China began cordoning off progressively larger areas, radiating outward from Wuhan City and eventually encapsulating some 100 million people. People were barred from leaving home, and lectured by drones if they were caught outside. Nonetheless, the virus has now been found in 24 countries.
Despite the apparent ineffectiveness of such measures—relative to their inordinate social and economic cost, at least—the crackdown continues to escalate. Under political pressure to “stop” the virus, last Thursday the Chinese government announced that officials in the Hubei province would be going door to door, testing people for fevers and looking for signs of illness, then sending all potential cases to quarantine camps. But even with the ideal containment, the virus’s spread may have been inevitable. Testing people who are already extremely sick is an imperfect strategy if people can spread the virus without even feeling bad enough to stay home from work.

Lipsitch predicts that, within the coming year, some 40 to 70 percent of people around the world will be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19. But, he clarifies emphatically, this does not mean that all will have severe illnesses. “It’s likely that many will have mild disease, or may be asymptomatic,” he said. As with influenza, which is often life-threatening to people with chronic health conditions and of older age, most cases pass without medical care. (Overall, around 14 percent of people with influenza have no symptoms.)
Lipsitch is far from alone in his belief that this virus will continue to spread widely. The emerging consensus among epidemiologists is that the most likely outcome of this outbreak is a new seasonal disease—a fifth “endemic” coronavirus. With the other four, people are not known to develop long-lasting immunity. If this one follows suit, and if the disease continues to be as severe as it is now, “cold and flu season” could become “cold and flu and COVID-19 season.”

At this point, it is not even known how many people are infected. As of Sunday, there have been 35 confirmed cases in the U.S., according to the World Health Organization. But Lipsitch’s “very, very rough” estimate when we spoke a week ago (banking on “multiple assumptions piled on top of each other,” he said) was that 100 or 200 people in the U.S. were infected. That’s all it would take to seed the disease widely. The rate of spread would depend on how contagious the disease is in milder cases. On Friday, Chinese scientists reported in the medical journal JAMA an apparent case of asymptomatic spread of the virus, from a patient with a normal chest CT scan. The researchers concluded with stolid understatement that if this finding is not a bizarre abnormality, “the prevention of COVID-19 infection would prove challenging.”



Read: 20 seconds to optimize hand wellness
Even if Lipsitch’s estimates were off by orders of magnitude, they wouldn’t likely change the overall prognosis. “Two hundred cases of a flu-like illness during flu season—when you’re not testing for it—is very hard to detect,” Lipsitch said. “But it would be really good to know sooner rather than later whether that’s correct, or whether we’ve miscalculated something. The only way to do that is by testing.”

Originally, doctors in the U.S. were advised not to test people unless they had been to China or had contact with someone who had been diagnosed with the disease. Within the past two weeks, the CDC said it would start screening people in five U.S. cities, in an effort to give some idea of how many cases are actually out there. But tests are still not widely available. As of Friday, the Association of Public Health Laboratories said that only California, Nebraska, and Illinois had the capacity to test people for the virus.
With so little data, prognosis is difficult. But the concern that this virus is beyond containment—that it will be with us indefinitely—is nowhere more apparent than in the global race to find a vaccine, one of the clearest strategies for saving lives in the years to come.

Over the past month, stock prices of a small pharmaceutical company named Inovio more than doubled. In mid-January, it reportedly discovered a vaccine for the new coronavirus. This claim has been repeated in many news reports, even though it is technically inaccurate. Like other drugs, vaccines require a long testing process to see if they indeed protect people from disease, and do so safely. What this company—and others—has done is copy a bit of the virus’s RNA that one day could prove to work as a vaccine. It’s a promising first step, but to call it a discovery is like announcing a new surgery after sharpening a scalpel.

Though genetic sequencing is now extremely fast, making vaccines is as much art as science. It involves finding a viral sequence that will reliably cause a protective immune-system memory but not trigger an acute inflammatory response that would itself cause symptoms. (While the influenza vaccine cannot cause the flu, CDC warns that it can cause “flu-like symptoms.”) Hitting this sweet spot requires testing, first in lab models and animals, and eventually in people. One does not simply ship a billion viral gene fragments around the world to be injected into everyone at the moment of discovery.
Inovio is far from the only small biotech company venturing to create a sequence that strikes that balance. Others include Moderna, CureVac, and Novavax. Academic researchers are also on the case, at Imperial College London and other universities, as are federal scientists in several countries, including at the U.S. National Institutes of Health. Anthony Fauci, head of the NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, wrote in JAMA in January that the agency was working at historic speed to find a vaccine. During the SARS outbreak in 2003, researchers moved from obtaining the genomic sequence of the virus and into a phase 1 clinical trial of a vaccine in 20 months. Fauci wrote that his team has since compressed that timeline to just over three months for other viruses, and for the new coronavirus, “they hope to move even faster.”




New models have sprung up in recent years, too, that promise to speed up vaccine development. One is the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness (CEPI), which was launched in Norway in 2017 to finance and coordinate the development of new vaccines. Its founders include the governments of Norway and India, the Wellcome Trust, and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. The group’s money is now flowing to Inovio and other small biotech start-ups, encouraging them to get into the risky business of vaccine development. The group’s CEO, Richard Hatchett, shares Fauci’s basic timeline vision—a COVID-19 vaccine ready for early phases of safety testing in April. If all goes well, by late summer testing could begin to see if the vaccine actually prevents disease.
Read: Coronavirus is devastating Chinese tourism
Overall, if all pieces fell into place, Hatchett guesses it would be 12 to 18 months before an initial product could be deemed safe and effective. That timeline represents “a vast acceleration compared with the history of vaccine development,” he told me. But it’s also unprecedentedly ambitious. “Even to propose such a timeline at this point must be regarded as hugely aspirational,” he added.

Even if that idyllic year-long projection were realized, the novel product would still require manufacturing and distribution. “An important consideration is whether the underlying approach can then be scaled to produce millions or even billions of doses in coming years,” Hatchett said. Especially in an ongoing emergency, if borders closed and supply chains broke, distribution and production could prove difficult purely as a matter of logistics.
Fauci’s initial optimism seemed to wane, too. Last week he said that the process of vaccine development was proving “very difficult and very frustrating.” For all the advances in basic science, the process cannot proceed to an actual vaccine without extensive clinical testing, which requires manufacturing many vaccines and meticulously monitoring outcomes in people. The process could ultimately cost hundreds of millions of dollars—money that the NIH, start-ups, and universities don’t have. Nor do they have the production facilities and technology to mass-manufacture and distribute a vaccine.

Production of vaccines has long been contingent on investment from one of the handful of giant global pharmaceutical companies. At the Aspen Institute last week, Fauci lamented that none had yet to “step up” and commit to making the vaccine. “Companies that have the skill to be able to do it are not going to just sit around and have a warm facility, ready to go for when you need it,” he said. Even if they did, taking on a new product like this could mean massive losses, especially if the demand faded or if people, for complex reasons, chose not to use the product.


 
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part two
You’re Likely to Get the Coronavirus

Most cases are not life-threatening, which is also what makes the virus a historic challenge to contain.


Making vaccines is so difficult, cost intensive, and high risk that in the 1980s, when drug companies began to incur legal costs over alleged harms caused by vaccines, many opted to simply quit making them. To incentivize the pharmaceutical industry to keep producing these vital products, the U.S. government offered to indemnify anyone claiming to have been harmed by a vaccine. The arrangement continues to this day. Even still, drug companies have generally found it more profitable to invest in the daily-use drugs for chronic conditions. And coronaviruses could present a particular challenge in that at their core they are, like influenza viruses, a single strand of RNA. This viral class is likely to mutate, and vaccines may need to be in constant development, as with the flu.

“If we’re putting all our hopes in a vaccine as being the answer, we’re in trouble,” Jason Schwartz, an assistant professor at Yale School of Public Health who studies vaccine policy, told me. The best-case scenario, as Schwartz sees it, is the one in which this vaccine development happens far too late to make a difference for the current outbreak. The real problem is that preparedness for this outbreak should have been happening for the past decade, ever since SARS. “Had we not set the SARS-vaccine-research program aside, we would have had a lot more of this foundational work that we could apply to this new, closely related virus, ” he said. But, as with Ebola, government funding and pharmaceutical-industry development evaporated once the sense of emergency lifted. “Some very early research ended up sitting on a shelf because that outbreak ended before a vaccine needed to be aggressively developed.”
On Saturday, Politico reported that the White House is preparing to ask Congress for $1 billion in emergency funding for a coronavirus response. This request, if it materialized, would come in the same month in which President Donald Trump released a new budget proposal that would cut key elements of pandemic preparedness—funding for the CDC, the NIH, and foreign aid.

Thomas J. Bollyky: Coronavirus is spreading because humans are healthier
These long-term government investments matter because creating vaccines, antiviral medications, and other vital tools requires decades of serious investment, even when demand is low. Market-based economies often struggle to develop a product for which there is no immediate demand and to distribute products to the places they’re needed. CEPI has been touted as a promising model to incentivize vaccine development before an emergency begins, but the group also has skeptics. Last year, Doctors Without Borders wrote a scathing open letter, saying the model didn’t ensure equitable distribution or affordability. CEPI subsequently updated its policies to forefront equitable access, and Manuel Martin, a medical innovation and access adviser with Doctors Without Borders, told me last week that he’s now cautiously optimistic. “CEPI is absolutely promising, and we really hope that it will be successful in producing a novel vaccine,” he said. But he and his colleagues are “waiting to see how CEPI’s commitments play out in practice.”




These considerations matter not simply as humanitarian benevolence, but also as effective policy. Getting vaccines and other resources to the places where they will be most helpful is essential to stop disease from spreading widely. During the 2009 H1N1 flu outbreak, for example, Mexico was hit hard. In Australia, which was not, the government prevented exports by its pharmaceutical industry until it filled the Australian government’s order for vaccines. The more the world enters lockdown and self-preservation mode, the more difficult it could be to soberly assess risk and effectively distribute tools, from vaccines and respirator masks to food and hand soap.
Italy, Iran, and South Korea are now among the countries reporting quickly growing numbers of detected COVID-19 infections. Many countries have responded with containment attempts, despite the dubious efficacy and inherent harms of China’s historically unprecedented crackdown. Certain containment measures will be appropriate, but widely banning travel, closing down cities, and hoarding resources are not realistic solutions for an outbreak that lasts years. All of these measures come with risks of their own. Ultimately some pandemic responses will require opening borders, not closing them. At some point the expectation that any area will escape effects of COVID-19 must be abandoned: The disease must be seen as everyone’s problem.

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Original post was incorrect, the Covid 19 tracking website placed a marker indicating 36 cases were recently confirmed in Coffeyville Kansas. After further research the 36 cases were those recently repatriated from the Diamond Princess cruise ship now in quarantine in Omaha Nebraska. I apologize for any heart palpitations, or the sudden desire for a soothing adult beverage.
 
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Ragnarok

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night driver said:
EPIC is the software that runs the record keeping function for a surprising majority of hospitals in the US and in a number of other countries.

I've worked in an EPIC hospital (Cleveland Clinic (in ALL their facilities)) and a NON EPIC hospital (UH Case). Now, UH-Case-Rainbow MAY have converted as it's been a few years.

If EPIC sneezes, half of the hospitals in the US show signs of pneumonia.
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Ahh... Okay... I wasn't really understanding what the big deal was until that sentence.
 
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In case nobody noticed I just paid $400 plus for a brand new, super, duber, uber Lenovo Laptop today. Compared to the never completely understood Samsung, Verizon phone with a key board the size of a fingernail, and assorted other things, now I can do all the stuff I tried to do on that feckless phone. And yeah I think nobody does the song, like the man, and the man has to be Johnny Cash. I may even post hurt just to stir things up. And you will all recall the two dates I gave first Valentine's Day, and now April 15th are coming along nicely. The April 15th date is the final date when nobody will be saying, "Gee should I take this China plague serious?" Next, if you haven't got anything from China you want/need it is over for you. Like I said in the earlier posts, nobody is going to be buying any China computers without truly massive price increases, and we here in CONUS are going to pay in blood, and fire, and death for all the drugs, etc we no longer make here anymore. and the homeless, well one year from now I thing what we call the homeless WILL ALL BE DEAD. Actually, as I stepped into my apartment lobby, there was some homeless trash literally sitting the ground next to the buzz panel eating some crap he bought at the 7-11 that opened on the corner in January. It stays open 24/7 and in the last month or so my block is covered with filthy, disease ridden, drug, booze, mental cases all the time. And you know what? it don't bother me at all because they will all be DEAD in six months to a year. It will be brutal and that is going to define reality here for the future. and the sheeple ain't got a clue of what is coming. At least I got 100 deer slugs for when the scum tries to breach the door. Blood and fire, blood and fire and you won't find a liberal west of the Missisippi River.
 
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Ragnarok said:
"Therefore, a curse devours the earth, and those who live in it are held guilty. Therefore, the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men are left."

Never thought of it before but could "burned" be a reference to a fever?
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But part of the damnation of the coronaV is the LACK of fever as presenting feature---too often, anyways.
 
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rondaben said:
This "church" doesn't believe Jesus is God. It believes their 80+ year old pedophile leader supercedes Jesus, and that we are all living in the afterlife. After 144,000 "true believers" are here, the "holy spirit"---that they believe is a gang of angels---will "posess" the church and usher in a new heaven and earth.
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What “church” is this?
 
Ragnarok

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On and On, South of Heaven
Countrymouse said:
First, yes I tried a search. But I no longer remember who posted this--only that it was a video posted from a TWITTER link....and the word "screaming" brought out only unrelated threads, and of course "Wuhan" ----well, you know.

SO---can anyone tell me in WHAT POST (I first saw it yesterday evening, but it may have been posted up to 2 days prior to that--that's how far behind I usually stay on this thread which adds 5-10 pages a day) ---

WHERE is the post with the twitter of Wuhan apartment buildings, with residents SCREAMING their despair into the night?

I wanted to show that to my husband.

Thanks.
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Actually I think they were yelling/singing songs to encourage each other...

Wuhan residents chant ‘Keep it up, Wuhan’ out of their windows to boost morale
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_PSSTP8ROg


Wuhan residents chant "Jiayou" for city to persist in face of adversity
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBUa3WkStFg


Coronavirus Wuhan residents shout from windows in solidarity
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khEcZ7EmUk8


People Shouting "Wuhan Add Oil" & Singing National Anthem
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apoCDUd0Qrg


Wuhan residents chant "Wuhan, stay strong" and sing patriotic songs through their windows
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yP4hZ5qj6Yw
 
Ragnarok

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Countrymouse said:
I think it was BOTH---

It WAS being experimented on as a "possible" biological weapon

The animals used were reading for "dumping"

Instead of incinerating them, some low-level idiot thought he'd make a quick profit selling them to the wet-market


And a biologically weaponized monster escapes..............
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Except that now both Senator Tom Cotton AND the Chinese government say the outbreak DID NOT originate at the market...
 
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www.oregonlive.com

Oregon monitors more than 200 people for coronavirus after they traveled to China

The people do not have symptoms but may have been exposed.
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Oregon monitors more than 200 people for coronavirus after they traveled to China
Updated 5:28 PM; Today 4:15 PM

By Fedor Zarkhin | The Oregonian/OregonLive

Oregon still has no cases of the new coronavirus, but local officials are monitoring 76 people who don’t have symptoms of an infection but may have been exposed.

The people are being watched to see if they develop symptoms, the Oregon Health Authority said Monday. So far, the state and local agencies have finished monitoring 178 people who may have been exposed to the disease through contact with a person who was infected or through travel to China. None of them developed symptoms, according to the agency.

“We recognize people are very worried about COVID-19,” Lillian Shirley, director of the OHA Public Health Division, said in a statement referring to the name given the virus. “People need to understand their real risks and feel confident the state and their local health departments are working hard to protect their health.”

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention tells Oregon about people returning from China and Oregon then relays that information to the health departments in the counties where those people live, said health authority spokesman Jonathan Modie. The local agencies then contact the individuals and ask them to report if they have any COVID-19 symptoms, which include a fever and cough.

If a person has symptoms within two weeks of the last possible exposure to the virus, they tell the county and then get tested. Two people developed symptoms while under monitoring, Modie said, and both tested negative for coronavirus.

A total of 254 people in Oregon are either currently being monitored or have already gone through two-week monitoring. All but two of them were put on the monitoring list just because they had been to China. The other two had been to China and flew on a plane with a person infected with the coronavirus.

The agency has previously declined to release information about the number of people being monitored, citing laws on patient confidentiality and health investigations that are ongoing. The agency will update the information every Tuesday, at healthoregon.org/coronavirus.

-- Fedor Zarkhin
 
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bcingu said:
CONFIRMED 36 CORONA VIRUS SE KANSAS

TODAY 2/24/20 Coffeyville Kansas

Operations Dashboard for ArcGIS

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1232134846782328832
View: http://twitter.com/KrissyMD3/status/1232134846782328832
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bcingu said:
CONFIRMED 36 CORONA VIRUS SE KANSAS

TODAY 2/24/20 Coffeyville Kansas

Operations Dashboard for ArcGIS

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1232134846782328832
View: http://twitter.com/KrissyMD3/status/1232134846782328832
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hmm... she goes on to suggest that it is still unconfirmed? I've read elsewhere that today's jump in USA cases was more princess diamond passangers testing positive?






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Update: still unable to verify or confirm this situation and current status from
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That looks like it’s in the same place on the map where the young teacher died of the “flu” & her husband & brother have double pneumonia from the “flu”.











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Columbus Kansas is where that happened. The map data does not list a city or town and says “unassigned location”
 
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Moving right along in South Korea, and Iran--- remember, watch singapores' numbers, as they are touted to be pretty realistic, and recall too that France said there was no need to close off from Iran, so they're probably going to have a rude awakening soon.

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#BREAKING — 6 #coronavirus patients in critical condition in #SouthKorea: KCDC official via Yonhap #COVID2019
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(URGENT) Moon says declaring Daegu 'special disaster zone' not enough, vows full budget support
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The reported outbreak in Iran got me to thinking about the Hajj. Despite the pandemic I doubt it would be called off, possibly but, I doubt it.

For future reference the dates of 2020 Hajj: 2020 Dates: "Hajj is expected to fall between July 28 - Aug 2, 2020."

Link to source:
www.learnreligions.com

When Is the Hajj Pilgrimage Held Each Year?

When is the annual Islamic pilgrimage to Makkah, Saudi Arabia — known as the "Hajj" and what does it mark?
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Ragnarok

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
TxGal said:
We watched it, and we thought the exact same thing. I had planned to do one more Costco run this week, and I still plan to, but I am definitely feeling good about all the prepping/topping off we had done ahead of time. When I do go, I'll post what I find...normal, or far from it.
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I saw ( and posted ) Tucker's report....

The stampede is about to commence.

THANK YOU, to all who have worked so tirelessly and diligently on this thread!

You have given our membership and all of those our membership can reach out to, a full 60 days advance warning.

Honestly, the amount of lives this board and it's member's may have saved cannot be calculated.

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Laurie Garrett
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Dr. Zunyou Wu, Chinese CDC: "#COVID19 rapidly spread from a single city to the entire country in just 30 dys. The sheer speed of both the geographical expansion & the sudden increase in cases surprised & quickly overwhelmed health & public health services in China.." MORE
2/ "...particularly in Wuhan City & Hubei Province. Epidemic curves reflect..early cases suggestive of a continuous common source, potentially #zoonotic spillover at Huanan Seafood Market, & later cases suggestive of...transmitted frm person to prsn"

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1232171671806791681
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