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Ragnarok

Ragnarok

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Trivium Pursuit said:
Yes, and this deserves further clarification. When we say it is a records system, a record keeping system, you could think it's just a dry thing played with by accountants after you are discharged from the hospital. While it is also that, it is something far more important, and why I actually mentioned it on this thread.

It is your LIVE chart while you are in the hospital. The nurse who asks you if you've been to China in the last 14 days enters that into EPIC. When he or she charts your vitals, they put in into EPIC. Your doctor then reads that information in their EPIC screen, and orders medications, surgeries, therapies, consultations, etc., using the EPIC system. In a word, it often determines the healthcare you're given, based on what is entered into it--which was also true of a paper chart.

Specifically here, say the nurse enters that you have been to China in the last 14 days, and you have a symptom of cough. It is EPIC that will now pop up a Best Practice Advisory. It is telling you in bright yellow on the screen that you need to put goggles on, put a mask on the patient, and get them into several kinds of isolation. This is the logic that I mentioned earlier in this thread that EPIC had released in January. Which I could see that my current client system put into production 2 Tuesdays ago.

So, if we discover much more accurate screening methods, effective isolation protocols, etc., it would be EPIC that would design and send out the code to implement that. Which is why we all benefit from it continuing to function. And not only hospitals. Most hospitals own scads of doctors practices. So if you go to your doctor's office, there's a good chance that they would be asking you the same questions about China and coughing, and getting that same determination from the EPIC clinic software, which I also train.
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Seriously...

Thank you for the time to explain.

My Mother, brother, and many nieces and nephews live with a 30 minute drive of this location...
 
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Sounds like Rush is either sicker than we thought, or his new medal has gone to his head. What he is saying is beyond stupid, not because this flu (or "common cold" as he calls it) is physically dangerous, because there's evidence it's not particularly deadly. The danger is in how virulent it is (both pre- and post-symptomatic = high R0). That's important because of the cascading global economic effect it could have. Low savings rates + fragile global supply lines + just-in-time inventories = potential economic disaster on par with or greater than the Great Recession. Is this the eqivalent of the Spanish Flu? I doubt it, but economically it could be a real black swan event.
 
jward

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They certainly know better... I hope the rank and file folk do as well, and decide their attendance accordingly
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Ragnarok

Ragnarok

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CarolynA said:
About lab animals being used for food. Well, it has happened right here in the US of A! In 1972 I worked at HP near Stanford University. We would all go to lunch at a great little hamburger place nearby. On Wednesdays they had "special" Parisian burgers for 38 cents. Regular hamburgers were 50 cents. One day we went there and it was closed. There was police tape around the building. The next morning there was a front page article about the fact that the owner was using 25% lab rat meat in the burgers. He claimed they were the control rats. Sure. I have always wondered what in the hell chemicals we ate. Oh well. The burgers were great and I'm still above ground.
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Shooter

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Rucus Sunday said:
Sounds like Rush is either sicker than we thought, or his new medal has gone to his head. What he is saying is beyond stupid, not because this flu (or "common cold" as he calls it) is physically dangerous, because there's evidence it's not particularly deadly. The danger is in how virulent it is (both pre- and post-symptomatic = high R0). That's important because of the cascading global economic effect it could have. Low savings rates + fragile global supply lines + just-in-time inventories = potential economic disaster on par with or greater than the Great Recession. Is this the eqivalent of the Spanish Flu? I doubt it, but economically it could be a real black swan event.
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I think Rush is going along with most other media types, even coast to coast am, is down playing it, and they are usually deep into the wooo. only one really talking about it is Tucker Carlson and Glenn Beck. and beck I dont trust to much. I really believe the media is being told to calm the people down, to not excite people,
 
Ragnarok

Ragnarok

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EMICT said:
Because, up to this point in time, there is absolutely NOTHING the CDC, WHO, or anyone else can do to mitigate the outcome other than ride it out and hope for the best. The Emperor and the bureaucratic lackeys do not want to be seen naked, even though they are, regarding this pandemic.

A plan has to have a predicated positive outcome... that's why there is no plan because there really isn't any mitigation that will work.
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jward

jward

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Professor of epidemiology of healthcare-related infections. Patient safety is my top-priority.

Breda, Netherlands

So he's suggesting an attack rate as high as 70% with a 2% or less death rate, and points out that this is far more than a typical flu rate die off, and most closely resembles dealing with a Spanish Influenza scenerio. Tis the historical rhyme I was using, and it certainly could be worse, I spose. But---
jan kluytmans
@jankluytmans

1) Recently, I have been asked repeatedly why we bother so much about #COVID19 as it would resemble a normal seasonal flu. In this thread I will try to explain why the current facts and observations point into a different direction.

One disclaimer upfront: As always it is difficult to make predictions, especially when they involve the future (Niels Bohr). During an average flu-season it is estimated that approximately 10% of the population is affected.

3) The majority will experience a relatively mild disease and a small percentage will die. This percentage is close to 0,1%. This means that from the total population approximately 0,01% (10%*0,1%) will die. This may seem low but it has profound impact on healthcare systems

4) In my country, The Netherlands in 2018 it was estimated that 1200 deaths were due to the flu on a population of 17 million. This a bit less than 0,01%. So this estimate seems to be pretty accurate.

5) For #COVID19 the current estimates are that the attack rate will be 30-70%. The current mortality reported from China is 2,3%. However as there may be a substantial number of undetected cases it may be lower, close to 1%.

6) So, the estimated mortality in the total population will vary between 0,3% and 1,5%. This is 30-150 times higher than for seasonal flu. From this simple calculation it is clear that the potential impact of #COVID19 is incomparable and resembles the Spanish flu.

7) As said before the estimates have uncertainties and also there may be changes in the behavior of the virus over time but these are the current data which are the basis of our response strategies. I hope they will be proven to be wrong.
 
Texican

Texican

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Countrymouse said:
So every time I post, I have to leave the thread totally and then come back in and re-open it (and TRY to find my place) to see my post in its correct place?

I hope this is just a glitch and will be fixed soon---the other site didn't do this and it's maddening. It's like posts keep "moving" around on the thread and I never am sure which page I'm on.
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After your post is posted close that tab and you will be back at the location in the previous tab....

You can do this with just posting a comment by right clicking on the reply button and select open in new tab and enter your post and hit the post reply....

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Texican

Texican

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pymaf said:
I wished that we were receiving factual updates on the number and locations of confirmed and suspected cases in the USA, if it is close to my location I will take my six weeks of saved vacation time from work and pull my teenagers from school. The question that I ask myself, when is it to late?
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When the authorities report that there is a case in your town would be a good time to isolate which should provide some safety factor....

If you wait until a case is reported in our neighborhood or on our street, it is probably to late....

Texican....
 
jward

jward

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This fella's worth a daily read, imho---

So you think you’ve about to be in a pandemic?

Posted onFebruary 25, 2020AuthorIan M Mackay, PhD (EIC)Leave a comment

by Ian M Mackay, PhD and Katherine E Arden PhD


The severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2 [1]) has spread to over 30 countries and regions outside mainland China. Currently, disease spread in Singapore is being slowed by their expertise but new case numbers in South Korea, Italy and Iran, and the wide national distribution of cases in Japan are all signs that the virus is ahead of our efforts to contain it.
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Let’s go shopping. But bit by bit – not in a rush.
Photo by Daria Volkova on Unsplash We’re not in a pandemic now
For now, you are more than likely not living in an area experiencing widespread community transmission of SARS-CoV-2. If more cases of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) keep rapidly appearing, and more of them can’t be traced to existing transmission chains, the efforts in some countries to contain COVID-19 will have failed.
At some point, we’ll be in the main phase of a pandemic; epidemics of an efficiently transmitting pathogen spreading widely within the community of two or more countries, apart from the first one to report it.[1] A pandemic doesn’t necessarily mean the disease is severe. And let’s face it if we don’t start using this possibly scary word and talking about and planning for the possibilities now – how much more panic and fear will result because we were taken totally by surprise?
For once, let’s get ahead of what’s coming.
Assumptions and severity
This post is based on the assumption that a pandemic will occur at some point and that Wave 1 will impact us, wherever we live, in the coming weeks and months.
We don’t know for certain how severe a COVID-19 pandemic will be. We may be able to assume it’s a mild or perhaps moderate pandemic, not a severe one, according to definitions in the Australian Health Management Plan for Pandemic Influenza scenarios.[4] But we won’t know for sure until we see spread in countries that ask questions, define cases, and test for SARS-CoV-2 in the same way that we do.
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From AHMPPI.[4]
We know that SARS-CoV-2 is effectively transmitted among humans but it may take longer for symptoms to show up in the next infected person than it does for seasonal influenza (“silent” or unnoticed shedding may happen). We also know there are no antivirals or vaccines at the time of writing and we are pretty sure that our entire population is likely to be vulnerable to infection because it doesn’t have any immunity to their new virus.
Planning now and doing something means we can control how well we cope with some of what may be coming.
If we see events cancelled or schools closed we can rest assured that this is to slow down spread, not something scarier. Hopefully, this will be clearly explained by authorities at the time.
While closures and cancellations are possible, they are by no means a sure thing. We don’t know how mild or severe SARS-CoV-2 will be, and each region will make their own – probably slightly differing – decisions about what is appropriate – and enforceable. Having a think now about how we might respond in these situations will help decisions come faster if we get to that point.
Thanks to the expert commentary of Dr Jody Lanard and Dr Peter Sandman, in the last post, we already have some excellent ideas about what information we should be listening for, from health authorities communicating to the wider community.
What we might see happen if many get sick
If we enter into a pandemic, large numbers of people will be sick. Even if that’s just staying home with a fever and bad cough for a week. If COVID-19 is more severe, that will have a greater impact.
And when one family member is sick, one or more others may be involved in their care, removing more people from the workplace. The same effect may result if children being excluded from school. In a worst-case scenario, widespread illness may mean too few workers to drive trucks and trains, buses and taxis, run water treatment, electricity or other government services, teach at schools or staff hospitals. This didn’t happen in Australia during the 2009 H1N1 “swine flu” pandemic. But supply chains may be impacted in a number of ways.
Authorities will try to slow the speed of COVID-19 to prevent hospitals – which are essential to care for the sickest people – from being overloaded. Public gatherings – sports events and concerts – as well as schools and childcare centres, could be postponed or closed. All of which aims will be to keep people apart, making it harder for the virus to spread quickly. Again, these decisions will differ between places, and may not even have to be made.
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Measures which slow the peak (1) and “flatten the curve” (2) will delay and spread out the pressure on essential healthcare function and supply chains. [3]
Once we have a vaccine, we can mitigate the impact of SARS-CoV-2, but we’re quite some way from having a safe vaccine.
Planning for everything
A lot of the planning that is going on in many places worldwide right now revolves around supporting essential services, using the numbers we have to predict the load on hospitals and to model a myriad of impacts on daily life; planning for the worst and hoping for the best.
Everyone knows the precise numbers of cases and deaths are not as precise as we’d like them to be. This is where modelling gives the authorities options – from most likely to happen, to least likely. From least concerning outcomes to the most devastating ones. And we plan accordingly. In this process, a lot of guidelines and plans and documents get written, but few of them are of use to you (or us) as members of the wider community.
It seems to take a while to get to around talking to the community about what they can do. Part of that’s because of how consumed with work many are right now because this epidemic is still only 8 weeks old; an infant, yet one that moves like a teenager who just discovered caffeine. And yet, late last week and over the weekend, the signal fires of pandemic awareness and increased communication started to light.
But what can we plan for and do?
Let’s break this into two main categories.
  1. Reducing our risk of being infected
  2. Reducing the chance we will run out of essential foods and goods
Reducing our risk of being infected
We can do a few things and we’ve probably heard them all before. They won’t guarantee to protect us from infection, but they can reduce our risk of infection. These are just as useful for avoiding influenza (flu) virus infection during flu season and for dodging SARS-CoV-2, once your local community is known to have it circulating.
REMEMBER: As long as the virus circulates, and as long as you have never been infected, you are susceptible to infection resulting in COVID-19. This will be the case for the rest of your life until you have been infected which should protect you from severe disease. COVID-19 is mostly a mild illness but can cause severe pneumonia in approximately 20% of cases, leading to hospitalization for weeks and in a portion of these cases, to death.
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World Health Organization.[3]
These are things we can do to reduce our risk of SARS-CoV-2 infection.
  • Stay at least 2m away from obviously sick people.
    We’re trying to avoid receiving a cough/sneeze in the face, shaking hands, or being in the range of droplet splatter and the “drop zone”
  • Wash your hands for 20 seconds & more frequently than you do now
    Soap and water and then dry, or an alcohol-based hand rub, and air dry
  • Try not to touch your face.
    There is a chance your unwashed fingers will have a virus on them and if you touch/rub your mouth, nose or eyes, you may introduce the virus and accidentally infect yourself. Practice this; get others to call you out when you forget. Make it a game.
While a mask seems like a good idea, and when used by professionals it does protect from infection, it can actually give inexperienced users a false sense of security. There isn’t a lot of good evidence (still!) that shows a mask to reliably prevent infection when worn by the public at large. They are useful to put on a sick person to reduce their spreading of the virus.
If you or a loved one becomes sick, follow the practices of the day. Call ahead before going to a Doctor, fever clinic or hospital and get advice on what to do. Hopefully, this message is already out there and we’ll see it more once transmission of the virus is widespread.
Reducing our risk of running short of food and important goods – the 2-week list
What we’re looking at here is trying to minimize the impact of any shortages of goods we rely on having at the grocery store or at the end of an online ordering system.
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Dried fruit. It lasts and is nutritious.
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But don’t panic buy and don’t hoard!
Most of the world is not seeing any widespread ongoing transmission of SARS-CoV-2, so now is a great time to make list, label up a “Pandemic Stash” box, and begin to slowly fill it with items that won’t go off and that you won’t touch unless needed. Buy a few of the things each weekly shop. Don’t buy things you won’t eat later, don’t hoard and don’t buy more than you’ll need for a 2 week period. We’re not talking zombie apocalypse and we very probably won’t see power or water interruptions either.
Our household is trying to get food that fulfil a need for carbohydrate, protein, and fibre. We also want supplies for caring for the sick (or for when sick yourself) and cleaning supplies to try to reduce the spread.
Below we list things we’ll need to have in case of a more major interruption to supply; a stock that will last 2 weeks. Some of these things will last much longer and include items that may not be a top priority for authorities to keep stocked:
  • Extra prescription medications, asthma relief inhalers
    Some of these may be a problem, so talk to your doctor soon.
  • Over-the-counter anti-fever and pain medications
    paracetamol and ibuprofen can go a long way to making us feel less sick
  • Feminine hygiene products
  • Family pack of toilet paper
  • Vitamins
    In case food shortages limit the variety in your diet
  • Alcohol-containing hand rub
  • Soap
  • Household cleaning agents
    Bleach, floor cleaner, toilet cleaner, surface cleaning spray, laundry detergent
  • Tissues, paper towel
  • Cereals, grains, pasta
  • Tinned food – fish, vegetables, fruit
  • Oil, spices and flavours
  • Dried fruit and nuts
  • Ultra-heat treated or powdered milk
    Ian is not drinking black coffee, no matter what
  • Soft drink or candy/chocolate for treats
  • Think about elderly relative’s needs
    Their medications, pets, pandemic stash, plans for care (see later)
  • Pet food and care
    Dry and tinned food, litter tray liners, medicines, anti-flea drops
The last-minute fresh list
In a more severe pandemic, supply chain issues may mean fresh food becomes harder to get. So this list is an add-on to the one above, and its items should be the last things to buy if you have a hint of when supplies might slow or stop for a (hopefully short) time.
  • Bread, wraps
  • Meat for freezing
  • Milk
  • Eggs
  • Yogurt
  • Vegetables, fruit
The elderly and COVID-19
To date, looking at data from China (below), most (94%) deaths from COVID-19 have occurred in those aged over 50 years of age, with more than half (51%) in those aged over 70 years. The age group most at risk for death are those aged over 80 years.
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Older people with comorbidities have experienced higher proportions of death than those with no comorbidities. Most cases identified in mainland China – 80.9% of them – even with the more severe case catching that China has favoured – have been classified as mild. This is good news although 20% is still a lot of “severe” disease. Mild cases recover in about 2 weeks from the time they showed symptoms, while severe cases can take 3 to 6 weeks to recover.

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Infographic of the largest study of cases from China.[1]

Because of this, we may see a big impact on our elderly population, both in terms of hospitalisation and death. Residential aged care is likely to suffer and visits to loved ones may be restricted to keep them safe. If you have loved ones in an aged care facility, ask the facility about its plans for keeping their residents safe from flu (a similar situation) and whether they have thought about what they will do if SARS-CoV-2 is spreading widely.
It will be important to check that your parents and grandparents have prepared a Will and have considered an Enduring Power of Attorney in case they are unable to make care-based decisions for themselves. These aren’t fun to organise or think about, but they’re important whether we see a COVID-19 pandemic or not, so just use this as a reminder to get it done.
Pandemic is a word, how we react to it is down to us
We all want to have some control over our lives but when a virus comes knocking as this one is, we feel the loss of that control. The lists above are something we can actually do.
We’re working on this in our household now, bit by bit. The lists have helped us all focus on how that “thing going on in that faraway country” will impact us when it comes to our neighborhood. This process has already made things a little more familiar and a little less unknown and scary. We’ve done some things that will help. We know there are still risks but we’ve talked about them, calmly, as a family.
Of course, this doesn’t remove the many unknowns, but we’re sure we’ll gradually reduce those as science gets us more answers. Hopefully, these answers will bring good news; lower death rates, effective antiviral drugs, and new vaccines.
We do have some experience of a pandemic and it wasn’t panic-worthy. The pandemic of H1N1 “swine flu” in 2009 had some unhappy consequences, but it was by no means a zombie apocalypse.
China has bought us time to prepare. Let’s not waste any more of it. Instead, let’s get our planning hats on and all work the problem together. This is one of those rare times when we’re unarguably all in this together.
SARS-CoV-2 doesn’t care about our beliefs, our sex or gender, our colour or our clothes – it just wants to make a home in our human cells.
It’s perfectly okay to be anxious about this.
But work the problem.
References
  1. Not so novel: numbers: around COVID-19 and SARS-CoV-2
  2. Advice for public
  3. Interim pre-pandemic planning guidance: community strategy for pandemic influenza mitigation in the United States: early, targeted, layered use of nonpharmaceutical interventions. Published Date: February 2007
    https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/11425
  4. Australian Health Management Plan for Pandemic Influenza (AHMPPI)
    August 2019
    https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/ohp-ahmppi.htm
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So you think you're about to be in a pandemic?

by Ian M Mackay, PhD and Katherine E Arden PhD The severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2 [1]) has spread to over 30 countries and regions outside mainland China. Currently, disease spread in Singapore
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HCW COVID Confirmed Tenerife Canary Islands ex-Italy DETAIL This Italian tourist, the second case presented in the Canary Islands after the German citizen who was admitted to La Gomera,
 
pops88

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Wonder if any of them were tested for Corona considering we're a tourist and convention town.

"Five more flu deaths were reported to the Southern Nevada Health District last week, bringing the total to 31 flu-related deaths this season.

SNHD released the report from Feb. 9-15. "


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Health District reports 31 total flu deaths so far in Clark County

Five more flu deaths were reported to the Southern Nevada Health District last week, bringing the total to 31 flu-related deaths this season.
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Very glad we've been in hunker down mode since January and are generally homebodies-

"8 News Now has just learned that a Korean Air cabin crew member has tested positive for the virus. The exact routes and flights flown by that employee have not been released yet.

What we do know is there is a Korean Air flight that travels direct to Seoul just about every night from Las Vegas."



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Las Vegas tourists share concerns over coronavirus; US advises against travel to South Korea

Las Vegas tourists share their concerns over the coronavirus as the illness impacts travel across the globe.
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jward

jward

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The tables below show confirmed cases of coronavirus (2019-nCoV, officially known as SARS-CoV-2 or COVID-19) in China and other countries. To see a distribution map and a timeline, scroll down. There are currently 80,246 confirmed cases worldwide, including 2,704 fatalities.





Last update: 25 February 2020 at 3:08 a.m. ET


MAINLAND CHINACasesDeathsNotesLinks
Hubei province
(includes Wuhan)		64,7862,5637,090 serious, 1,585 criticalSource
Guangdong province1,333535 serious, 27 criticalSource
Henan province1,2671924 serious, 21 criticalSource
Zhejiang province1,203131 serious, 18 criticalSource
Hunan province1,011443 seriousSource
Anhui province98863 criticalSource
Jiangxi province934126 seriousSource
Jiangsu province63106 serious, 4 criticalSource
Chongqing567629 serious, 12 criticalSource
Shandong province74948 serious, 12 criticalSource
Sichuan province525318 criticalSource
Heilongjiang province4791270 seriousSource
Beijing396419 criticalSource
Shanghai334211 serious, 3 criticalSource
Tianjin1323Source
Other regions2,25623Source
Undisclosed674Source
TOTAL77,6582,6639,126 serious
27,230 recovered
2,824 suspected


OTHER PLACESCasesDeathsNotesLinks
Diamond Princess691435 serious, 10 recoveredSource
South Korea977106 critical, 22 recoveredSource
Japan160*17 serious, 23 recoveredSource
Singapore9007 critical, 49 recoveredSource
Hong Kong8124 critical, 2 serious, 12 recoveredSource
Italy231723 serious, 1 recoveredSource
Thailand3702 serious, 15 recoveredSource
United States5306 recoveredSource
Iran6114Source
Taiwan3115 recoveredSource
Malaysia22017 recoveredSource
Australia22011 recoveredSource
Germany16014 recoveredSource
Vietnam16016 recoveredSource
UAE1302 serious, 3 recoveredSource
France12111 recoveredSource
Macau1005 recoveredSource
United Kingdom1308 recoveredSource
Canada1103 recoveredSource
Philippines312 recoveredSource
India303 recoveredSource
Kuwait80Source
Russia202 recoveredSource
Spain302 recoveredSource
Oman20Source
Nepal101 recoveredSource
Cambodia101 recoveredSource
Sri Lanka101 recoveredSource
Finland101 recoveredSource
Sweden10Source
Belgium101 recoveredSource
Egypt101 recoveredSource
Israel20Source
Lebanon10Source
Bahrain80Source
Afghanistan10Source
Iraq10Source
TOTAL2,5884190 serious/critical
Notes

  • Japan: The total includes 4 asymptomatic cases, which are not included in the government’s official count. It also includes 14 people who were evacuated from China.
  • Japan: The 691 people from the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship are listed separately and they’re not included in the Japanese government’s official count. 380 were asymptomatic. Fourteen of them are U.S. citizens whose test results weren’t known until they were taken off the ship.
  • Diamond Princess: The total does not include 3 employees of Japan’s Health Ministry and 1 staff member of Japan’s Cabinet Secretariat, all of whom were infected while working on the ship. It does also not include people who tested positive upon their return home: 36 people in the U.S., 7 in Australia, 4 in the UK, 4 in Hong Kong, and 2 in Israel.
  • North Korea: Unconfirmed reports about 1, 5, or 7 cases in North Korea have been denied by the government. If cases are confirmed by North Korean officials, they will be added to this list.
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Tracking coronavirus: Map, data and timeline

The table below shows cases of coronavirus (officially known as SARS-CoV-2, COVID-19, or 2019-nCoV) around the world. Each figure is verified by our team through local health departments or local media. A distribution map and a timeline with a list of recent updates can be found below the table...
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OK...despite more worldwide infections than ever, the WHO has decided to stop using the (technically very accurate) term "pandemic" to describe covid-19, presumably because they don't want to scare folks.

The CDC is claiming that the US is not seeing "community level" spreading of the virus. But of course it isn't, because it's NOT testing at the community level. And only 3 US states currently have the capacity to run such tests, due to faulty kits being provided to the other states.

Then there's State Department's botched rescue of US citizens stuck on the Diamond Princess cruise ship, during which poor safety controls allowed 25 more folks to get infected on the flight back to the US. And these are the authorities we're depending on??

China, meanwhile, is lowering response levels in several provinces, setting the stage for workers to head back to the factories. BUT...they've postponed the National People's Conference.
So, it's still too serious for the the 'important' people to be in public, but the plebes have nothing to worry about?? China is facing a lose-lose decision: maintain their widespread quarantines to contain the virus, but kill their economy? Or send people back to work, and risk infecting millions more?

Today, the markets *finally* started to show concern for the hit global trade is taking from this growing crisis. If the euphoria pushing markets to new highs is dissipating, there is an awful lot of empty space below today's asset prices compared to their fundamentals-based valuations. Translation = the markets can fall a LOT farther from here.

To reiterate our guidance: the time to prepare -- physically and financially -- is NOW. As China, Italy, South Korea, Iran and other countries are showing us, a government lockdown happens swiftly, slamming shut your window to act. Use the time you still have as the precious gift it is, and strengthen your preparations.

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This guy might be a decent neurotoxicologist / economist, and he's certainly on the ball when it comes to tracking this epidemic, but I'm not so sure about his radiography skills. LMFAO at 21.05, at the way he highlighted an area of opacity saying 'ooh, that looks bad' - uh, dude, I'm pretty sure that's a heart. It's sorta supposed to be there! :rofl:
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
worth noting that the uptick shown for American cases (from 35 to 53) is from
  • 17:45: 18 new cases in the United States. They are all former passengers of the Diamond Princess cruise ship. (Source)

part two

Timeline (GMT)
25 February
  • 08:04: 84 new cases and 1 new death in South Korea. (Source)
  • 07:47: 6 new cases in Bahrain. (Source)
  • 07:36: 3 new cases in Kuwait. (Source)
  • 06:30: 2 new deaths in Iran. (Source)
  • 05:45: 1 new case in Taiwan. (Source)
  • 04:51: 1 new case in Japan. First in Nagano Prefecture. (Source)
  • 04:50: 2 new cases in Thailand. (Source)
  • 02:05: 1 new death in South Korea. (Source)
  • 02:02: 1 new death in Japan. Former passenger of the Diamond Princess cruise ship. (Source)
  • 01:15: 2 new cases in Italy. (Source)
  • 01:05: 60 new cases in South Korea. (Source)
  • 00:51: China’s National Health Commission reports 9 new cases and 3 new deaths across the mainland, excluding Hubei province. (Source)
  • 00:50: 499 new cases and 68 new deaths in Hubei province, China. The numbers provided in the press release do not match with the previous total. As a result, only 304 new cases have been added. (Source)
24 February
  • 22:22: 1 new case in Spain. (Source)
  • 20:50: 1 new case in Bahrain. (Source)
  • 20:45: 2 new cases in Kuwait. (Source)
  • 20:00: 1 presumptive confirmed case in Italy. (Source)
  • 19:15: 14 new cases in Iran. (Source)
  • 19:14: 5 new cases and 1 new death in Italy. (Source)
  • 17:45: 18 new cases in the United States. They are all former passengers of the Diamond Princess cruise ship. (Source)
  • 17:20: 1 new case in British Columbia, Canada. (Source)
  • 15:00: 12 new cases in Japan. (Source)
  • 14:35: 1 new death in Italy. (Source)
  • 14:13: First 2 cases in Oman. Both had visited Iran. (Source)
  • 13:45: 4 new cases in Italy. (Source 1, Source 2)
  • 12:54: 3 new cases in Italy. (Source)
  • 12:01: 7 new cases in Hong Kong. It includes former passengers of the Diamond Princess cruise ship. (Source)
  • 12:00: 1 new case in Singapore. (Source)
  • 11:10: 19 new cases and 1 new death in Italy. (Source)
  • 10:52: First case in Iraq. (Source)
  • 09:23: 2 new cases in Taiwan. (Source)
  • 09:17: 7 new cases in Italy. (Source)
  • 09:13: 1 new death in South Korea. (Source)
  • 08:57: 38 new cases in Italy. (Source)
  • 08:20: 4 new cases and 4 new deaths in Iran. (Source)
  • 08:05: 70 new cases in South Korea. (Source)
  • 07:57: 1 new death in Italy. (Source)
  • 07:35: First case in Afghanistan. Found in Herat province. (Source)
  • 06:23: First 3 cases in Kuwait. All three were recently in Mashhad in northeast Iran. (Source)
  • 06:18: First case in Bahrain. Citizen returning from Iran. (Source)
  • 03:05: China’s National Health Commission reports 409 new cases and 148 new deaths across the mainland, including Hubei province. (Source)
  • 01:19: 161 new cases and 1 new death in South Korea. (Source)
23 February
  • 20:44: 1 new presumptive confirmed case in Ontario, Canada. (Source)
  • 19:21: 1 new case in Israel. Former passenger of the Diamond Princess cruise ship. (Source)
  • 16:40: 23 new cases in Italy. (Source)
  • 16:36: 1 new death in Italy. (Source)
  • 16:15: 4 new cases in the United Kingdom. They are former passengers of the Diamond Princess cruise ship. (Source)
  • 14:38: 1 new death in Hubei province, China. (Source)
  • 12:30: 57 new cases in Japan. They were found on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama, raising the ship’s total to 691. Among the new cases are 55 crew members and 2 passengers. Both passengers and 50 of the crew members are asymptomatic. (Source)
  • 12:01: 1 new death in South Korea. (Source)
  • 11:55: 16 new cases in Italy. (Source)
  • 10:54: 1 new death in Japan. The man, who was in his 80s, was a passenger on the Diamond Princess cruise ship. (Source 1, Source 2)
  • 10:25: 8 new cases in Hokkaido Prefecture, Japan. (Source)
  • 09:53: 15 new cases and 3 new deaths in Iran. (Source)
  • 09:25: 2 new cases in Aichi Prefecture, Japan. (Source)
  • 09:19: 34 new cases in Italy. (Source)
  • 09:11: 4 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
  • 08:58: 1 new case in Chiba Prefecture, Japan. (Source)
  • 08:08: 46 new cases and 1 new death in South Korea. (Source)
  • 07:30: 1 new death in Hubei province, China. (Source)
  • 06:50: 2 new cases in Taiwan. (Source)
  • 02:45: 1 new case in Hokkaido Prefecture, Japan. (Source)
  • 01:57: China’s National Health Commission reports 18 new cases and 1 new death across the mainland, excluding Hubei province. Their locations have not yet been disclosed, except for the death, which was in Guangdong province. (Source)
  • 01:15: 95 new cases and 2 new deaths in South Korea. (Source)
  • 00:18: 25 new cases in South Korea. (Source)
22 February
  • 23:47: 3 new cases in South Korea. (Source)
  • 23:15: 630 new cases and 96 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
  • 22:44: 16 new cases in Italy. (Source)
  • 20:36: 1 new case in Milan, Italy. (Source)
  • 18:08: 7 new cases in Italy. (Source)
  • 17:30: 1 new case in Hokkaido Prefecture, Japan. (Source)
  • 16:10: 1 new case in Italy. First case in Piedmont Region. (Source)
  • 14:47: 1 new case in Hong Kong. (Source)
  • 14:48: 33 new cases and 1 new death in Italy. (Source 1, Source 2, Source 3, Source 4)
  • 14:47: 2 new cases in the United Arab Emirates. (Source)
  • 14:45: 3 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
  • 14:10: 4 new cases in Aichi Prefecture, Japan. (Source)
  • 14:00: 1 new case in Tokyo, Japan. (Source)
  • 13:30: 1 new case in Chiba Prefecture, Japan. (Source)
  • 13:10: 1 new case in Tochigi Prefecture, Japan. The patient is a former passenger of the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship. (Source)
  • 13:05: 4 new cases in Kanagawa Prefecture, Japan. (Source)
  • 12:47: 1 new case in Ishikawa Prefecture, Japan. (Source)
  • 11:30: 9 new cases in Hokkaido Prefecture, Japan. (Source)
  • 10:35: 1 new case in Australia. She is a former passenger of the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship. The other cases mentioned in the press release were previously reported. (Source)
  • 09:09: 10 new cases and 1 new death in Iran. (Source)
  • 08:17: 87 new cases in South Korea. (Source)
  • 07:59: 1 new case in Wakayama Prefecture, Japan. (Source)
  • 04:30: 1 new case in Chiba Prefecture, Japan. The other case mentioned in the article was previously reported. (Source)
  • 03:05: 2 new cases in Australia. They are former passengers of the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship. (Source)
  • 03:00: 1 new case in Chiba Prefecture, Japan. (Source)
  • 01:01: 142 new cases in South Korea. (Source)
  • 00:46: 1 new case in Italy. (Source)
  • 00:45: China’s National Health Commission reports 31 new cases and 3 new deaths across the mainland, excluding Hubei province. Their locations have not yet been disclosed. Compared to yesterday’s national update, there were 31 new cases and 3 new deaths outside Hubei province. (Source)
  • 00:45: 366 new cases and 106 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
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jward said:
horrible, and imo inflammatory photo---I wonder if there's some reason for that

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China bans trade, consumption of wild animals due to coronavirus https://reut.rs/390RkSc
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Yes, inflammatory, but not sure a motive other than part of the "bleeds it leads" same ol'. Teevee last night (fox iirc) pointed out domesticated animals aren't part of the ban. This kind of picture will continue.
 
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Rucus Sunday

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jward said:
horrible, and imo inflammatory photo---I wonder if there's some reason for that

Reuters
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China bans trade, consumption of wild animals due to coronavirus China bans trade, consumption of wild animals due to coronavirus
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Horrible, yes. Inflammatory? nah. There are many pix and videos that are much, much worse. Eating dog meat is endemic in Chinese culture (as is eating anything and everything that is disgusting), and you can find it almost anywhere if you know where to look. Some Chinese believe that the more the animal suffers before it is killed, the more heathful the meat. I'll leave it to your imagination as to what some of these animals endure while in the process of being killed. I don't care that there are exceptions, China is a disgusting government and culture. A blight upon the earth. Ichabod
 
jward

jward

passin' thru
Luddite said:
Yes, inflammatory, but not sure a motive other than part of the "bleeds it leads" same ol'. Teevee last night (fox iirc) pointed out domesticated animals aren't part of the ban. This kind of picture will continue.
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Hope you're right. Still too heartsick to have folks beatin' war drums in my ears.
 
Heliobas Disciple

Heliobas Disciple

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1232139823865061376
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Coronavirus (COVID19) Alerts @coronaviruscare
10:06 PM · Feb 24, 2020


25 February, 2020 SOUTH KOREA

31,920 suspected cases
11,631 being tested
20,292 tested negative, tests may be repeated
893 positive confirmed
8 deaths
22 people reported recovered
700+ places from where cases have been reported


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BREAKING:

-South Korea confirms 84 new #coronavirus cases and 1 new death

-Total of 977 cases and 10 dead
 
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