GUNS/RLTD 1/13/23 Biden makes pistol braces NFA - UPDATE, post 54

[spindrifter]

Justice Department Announces New Rule to Address Stabilizing Braces, Accessories Used to Convert Pistols into Short-Barreled Rifles

Today, the Department of Justice announced it has submitted to the Federal Register the “Stabilizing Braces” Final Rule, which makes clear that when manufacturers, dealers, and individuals use stabilizing braces to convert pistols into rifles with a barrel of less than 16 inches, commonly...

www.justice.gov

As of today, you get 120 days to register any SBR without the tax stamp. Those nice folks at the ATF sure are in a giving mood.

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Friday, January 13, 2023

Justice Department Announces New Rule to Address Stabilizing Braces, Accessories Used to Convert Pistols into Short-Barreled Rifles​

Today, the Department of Justice announced it has submitted to the Federal Register the “Stabilizing Braces” Final Rule, which makes clear that when manufacturers, dealers, and individuals use stabilizing braces to convert pistols into rifles with a barrel of less than 16 inches, commonly referred to as a short-barreled rifles, they must comply with the laws that regulate those rifles, including the National Firearms Act (NFA). In April 2021, at an event with President Biden, the Attorney General directed the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) to address the issue of stabilizing braces.
“Keeping our communities safe from gun violence is among the Department’s highest priorities,” said Attorney General Merrick B. Garland. “Almost a century ago, Congress determined that short-barreled rifles must be subject to heightened requirements. Today’s rule makes clear that firearm manufacturers, dealers, and individuals cannot evade these important public safety protections simply by adding accessories to pistols that transform them into short-barreled rifles.”
“This rule enhances public safety and prevents people from circumventing the laws Congress passed almost a century ago. In the days of Al Capone, Congress said back then that short-barreled rifles and sawed-off shotguns should be subjected to greater legal requirements than most other guns. The reason for that is that short-barreled rifles have the greater capability of long guns, yet are easier to conceal, like a pistol,” said ATF Director Steven Dettelbach. “But certain so-called stabilizing braces are designed to just attach to pistols, essentially converting them into short-barreled rifles to be fired from the shoulder. Therefore, they must be treated in the same way under the statute.”
Since the 1930s, the NFA has imposed requirements on short-barreled rifles because they are more easily concealable than long-barreled rifles but have more destructive power than traditional handguns. Beyond background checks and serial numbers, those heightened requirements include taxation and registration requirements that include background checks for all transfers including private transfers. Often, when pistols are converted to rifles by the use of a stabilizing brace covered by the rule, they have barrels less than 16 inches in length and must comply with the same heightened requirements that apply to short-barreled rifles under the NFA.
The rule goes into effect on the date of publication in the Federal Register. The rule allows for a 120-day period for manufacturers, dealers, and individuals to register tax-free any existing NFA short-barreled rifles covered by the rule. Other options including removing the stabilizing brace to return the firearm to a pistol or surrendering covered short-barreled rifles to ATF. Nothing in this rule bans stabilizing braces or the use of stabilizing braces on pistols.
On June 7, 2021, the Department of Justice issued a notice of proposed rulemaking, and during the 90-day open comment period, the ATF received more than 237,000 comments.
The final rule, as submitted to the Federal Register, can be viewed here: Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached “Stabilizing Braces” | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
To learn more about the rulemaking process, please see: Federal Register :: Request Access

 

[Jackpine Savage]

FJB

 

[desert_fox]

The folks over at AR15 forum are going bananas over this. Quite entertaining to read.

On a serious note: this will get shot down like the bump stocks but it will take years to get it through the court systems. What this does do is shut down manufacturers.

 

[night driver]

"They" are CLEARLY looking for the Hockey Stick Knee in the curve that releases all our pent up vitriol.

when they FIND it they ain't gonna be either happy OR as victorious as they expect.

 

[BigFootsCousin]

Another *Gasp* from the dying Second Amendment is heard.........

BFC

 

[dvo]

The Courts don’t have any troops to enforce. The Courts are entirely irrelevant if the ruling regime doesn’t want to play rule of law. That’s where we are at folks. Our only hopes other than God are gone.

 

[spindrifter]

My question is if this includes the CAA and Micro Roni devices?

 

[Henry Bowman]

Yeah well, lets see if he can find it in the cardboard box next to the Vette in the "Locked" garage.

FJB and the horse he rode in on.

Come and take them.

 

[BadMedicine]

The Courts don’t have any troops to enforce. The Courts are entirely irrelevant if the ruling regime doesn’t want to play rule of law. That’s where we are at folks. Our only hopes other than God are gone.

All we need is ONE GOOD declaration that the laws as we know them are void and then well... laws are void. Rock n roll.

Bring it FJB and all you batf*ckers. I don't even own a brace, but for the purposes of this conversation I JUST SWAM TO THE BOTTOM OF A NEARBY LAKE AND BROUGHT A COUPLE HOME. You know where to find me, MFers

 

[Murt]

bump biden

 

[spindrifter]

A comment on a reddit thread said this:

"Is that braced AR stamped?"

"I don't know but are those plates level 4?"...

 

[Hognutz]

The consent of the governed……indeed

 

[Hawke]

With all the braces out there, good luck enforcing this one.

 

[Wyominglarry]

My question is if this includes the CAA and Micro Roni devices?

From the reading of the PDF the answer is yes. Even your Roni and all pistol type braces are included.

 

[Raggedyman]

sorry but I just can't get all "werked up" about this
JUST SAY NO
and then - DO NOT


^^THIS^^
is really all it takes

what will it take for US to realize that there are INFINITELY MORE of US than there are of THEM?
they will get SOME of us
they will NEVER get ALL of us

and the more belligerent and overreaching they become the closer it gets to GO.
let the games begin
​

 

[Dozdoats]

Been keeping up with it at https://www.youtube.com/c/WashingtonGunLaw - they seem to have sneaked this one in.

A lot of BS under color of law these days.
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DOJ announces new rule targeting pistol attachments to boost gun safety

A stabilizing brace is an attachment to a pistol that functionally turns it into a short-barreled rifle, similar to a sawed-off shotgun. Such weapons are considered particularly deadly.

www.nbcnews.com

DOJ announces new rule targeting pistol attachments to boost gun safety

A stabilizing brace is an attachment to a pistol that functionally turns it into a short-barreled rifle, similar to a sawed-off shotgun. Such weapons are considered particularly deadly.
Task Force Against Illegal Guns Meeting with ATF Director Dettelbach
ATF Director Steve Dettelbach speaks at a meeting of the Task Force Against Illegal Guns in New York on Aug. 24, 2022.Michael Brochstein / Sipa USA via AP file

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Jan. 13, 2023, 3:49 PM EST
By Reuters
WASHINGTON — The Justice Department announced on Friday a new rule targeting pistol attachments known as “stabilizing braces,” implementing a key move in the Biden administration’s efforts to beef up gun control regulations.

A stabilizing brace is an attachment to a pistol that functionally turns it into a short-barreled rifle, similar to a sawed-off shotgun. Such weapons are considered particularly deadly as they offer the power of a traditional rifle, but are much easier to conceal.

For decades, short-barreled rifles have been subject to strict regulations, including a law known as the National Rifle Act, which requires additional taxation and background checks for private transfers, among other provisions.

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The new rule clarifies that pistols modified by a stabilizing brace are subject to those additional requirements, department officials said.

“This rule enhances public safety and prevents people from circumventing the laws Congress passed almost a century ago. In the days of Al Capone, Congress said back then that short-barreled rifles and sawed-off shotguns should be subjected to greater legal requirements than most other guns,” said Steven Dettelbach, the director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

Last year, President Joe Biden and U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland announced they were planning measures to tackle stabilizing braces as well as “ghost guns” — a type of firearm that is assembled by users and practically untraceable.


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While Democrats in Congress have pushed aggressively for new regulations of stabilizing braces, most Republicans have opposed such measures, portraying them as an infringement on Americans’ constitutional gun rights.

The new rule gives owners, manufacturers and distributors 120 days to report their stabilizing braces to the ATF tax-free. They may also remove the stabilizing brace or turn in any pistol modified by a stabilizing brace to the ATF.

It goes into effect once it is published in the Federal Register, likely next week, department officials said.

 

[energy_wave]

It's not Biden who is doing this.

It's those who control him behind the scene and those who control the controllers.

This and the banning gas appliances, along with the other recent announcements happened right after Biden vacationed outside the US over the holidays.

 

[Creedmoor]

So, does this mean that, hypothetically speaking, I owned an AR pistol with a brace, I could “register it tax free” as an SBR? That’s how it reads to me. So, then later, since it’s registered, I could just stick a real stock on it and it’s all fine? That actuall sounds like a way to get a real SBR $200 tax free and lengthy approval time free. Hmmm….

“The rule goes into effect on the date of publication in the Federal Register. The rule allows for a 120-day period for manufacturers, dealers, and individuals to register tax-free any existing NFA short-barreled rifles covered by the rule.”

 

[Mark D]

A stabilizing brace is an attachment to a pistol that functionally turns it into a short-barreled rifle, similar to a sawed-off shotgun. Such weapons are considered particularly deadly as they offer the power of a traditional rifle, but are much easier to conceal.

Ummm... NO.

9MM AR pistols shoot a PISTOL cartridge. Nothing particularly powerful about that.

5.56 AR pistols usually have a a 10-ish inch barrel; that neuters the power of the cartridge significantly. Heck, shooting ANY rifle cartridge out of a short barrel cuts the power significantly.

Pistols with braces are still PISTOLS - with PISTOL power.

A "traditional rifle???" Like a 30-06? Yeek! Dad's old deer rifle is multiple orders of magnitude more powerful.

Stupid article is stupid.

FWIW: I have a few honest-to-gosh registered NFA SBR's. They're range toys. The concussion from the 5.56 SBR's is so ridiculous, that they're basically expensive repeating Flash Bangs: shooting them without hearing protection would result in instant, permanent, catastrophic hearing loss... Full-size rifles outmatch them in every possible way.

 

[spindrifter]

So, does this mean that, hypothetically speaking, I owned an AR pistol with a brace, I could “register it tax free” as an SBR? That’s how it reads to me. So, then later, since it’s registered, I could just stick a real stock on it and it’s all fine? That actuall sounds like a way to get a real SBR $200 tax free and lengthy approval time free. Hmmm….

“The rule goes into effect on the date of publication in the Federal Register. The rule allows for a 120-day period for manufacturers, dealers, and individuals to register tax-free any existing NFA short-barreled rifles covered by the rule.”

Yep, that's how I read it. A person could, in theory, grandfather in any sbr's they owned that weren't stamped and save themselves some $$$. Not sure it will be any quicker, probably take longer considering the uptick in traffic.

 

[hiwall]

When you steal elections, you can do anything you want.

 

[Dobbin]

So when you steal your gun, you want to steal the shoulder extension that goes with it?

Dobbin

 

[Raggedyman]

It's not Biden who is doing this.

It's those who control him behind the scene and those who control the controllers.

This and the banning gas appliances, along with the other recent announcements happened right after Biden vacationed outside the US over the holidays.

you're correct . . . just wait until the contingent from ASSklown Central returns from their trip to DAVOS and begins to implement the new "marching orders" from unkle klaussie and his band of merrry WEFer's

 

[energy_wave]

you're correct . . . just wait until the contingent from ASSklown Central returns from their trip to DAVOS and begins to implement the new "marching orders" from unkle klaussie and his band of merrry WEFer's

Klaus Schwab is the new Adolf Hitler.

 

[Hognutz]

 

[Dozdoats]

you want to steal the shoulder extension that goes with it?

And the shoulder thing that goes up, too.

 

[Dozdoats]

The usual Friday afternoon surprise approach to things they don't want to do in daylight ...

Tens Of Millions Will Now Be Felons After The 120 Day “Brace/SBR” Amnesty Period

I don’t normally post stuff like this here because this channel isn’t about political crap, just preparing for what the political crap eventually leads to. In this instance, I’ll …

masondixonsurvivalistassociation.wordpress.com

JANUARY 13, 2023 BY MASON DIXON TACTICAL
Tens Of Millions Will Now Be Felons After The 120 Day “Brace/SBR” Amnesty Period

I don’t normally post stuff like this here because this channel isn’t about political crap, just preparing for what the political crap eventually leads to. In this instance, I’ll make an exception, because the ATF just placed tens of millions of Citizens under threat of felony charges with the release of this rule. The ATF is worse than the combination of a five year old with ADHD and a Geriatric with Alzheimer’s (no concentration and has forgotten what they’ve said before. The difference is the 5 yr old and the Geriatric can’t help it, and the ATF is doing it on purpose), when it comes to the arbitrary rule making and power trips they go on. There’s a Meme that I feel is appropriate here.


Burt Gummer does not approve
JCD,

The Bushbastard

 

[EMICT]

So, does this mean that, hypothetically speaking, I owned an AR pistol with a brace, I could “register it tax free” as an SBR? That’s how it reads to me. So, then later, since it’s registered, I could just stick a real stock on it and it’s all fine? That actuall sounds like a way to get a real SBR $200 tax free and lengthy approval time free. Hmmm….

“The rule goes into effect on the date of publication in the Federal Register. The rule allows for a 120-day period for manufacturers, dealers, and individuals to register tax-free any existing NFA short-barreled rifles covered by the rule.”

That assumes ‘they’ approve your registration. If not, surrender of the firearm or yourself.

 

[Creedmoor]

That assumes ‘they’ approve your registration. If not, surrender of the firearm or yourself.

What firearm? I don’t own any. It was a hypothetical type question.

 

[Dozdoats]

Don't need those law abiding armed citizens anyway.

 

[Dozdoats]

ATF announces new Pistol Brace Rule

On January 13, 2023, the Attorney General signed ATF final rule 2021R-08F, “Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached ‘Stabilizing Brace...

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ATF announces new Pistol Brace Rule

On January 13, 2023, the Attorney General signed ATF final rule 2021R-08F, “Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached ‘Stabilizing Braces,’” amending ATF’s regulations to clarify when a rifle is designed, made, and intended to be fired from the shoulder.

The rule outlines the factors ATF would consider when evaluating firearms equipped with a purported “stabilizing brace” (or other rearward attachment) to determine whether these weapons would be considered a “rifle” or “short-barreled rifle” under the Gun Control Act of 1968, or a “rifle” or “firearm” subject to regulation under the National Firearms Act. The rule’s amended definition of “rifle” clarifies that the term “designed, redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder” includes a weapon that is equipped with an accessory, component, or other rearward attachment (e.g., a “stabilizing brace”) that provides surface area that allows the weapon to be fired from the shoulder, provided other factors, as listed in the definition, indicate the weapon is designed and intended to be fired from the shoulder.

MORE at ATF.gov Factoring Criteria for Firearms with Attached “Stabilizing Braces” | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

FINAL RULE TEXT HERE (all 293 (!) pages of it)

https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/docs/undefined/factoringcriteriaforfirearmswithattachedstabilizingbracespdf/download

 

[Lone_Hawk]

Geeze, I'm glad I never finished my AR pistol. I have the complete upper, but never got a lower receiver for it. So it sits in the safe. I only have standard rifles.

 

[Idaho 2O]

Register.....

 

[Idaho 2O]

Laws passed by "rules" are null and void.

 

[Idaho 2O]

 

[savurselvs]

The folks over at AR15 forum are going bananas over this. Quite entertaining to read.

On a serious note: this will get shot down like the bump stocks but it will take years to get it through the court systems. What this does do is shut down manufacturers.

Didn’t the bump stock get thrown out BUT it will be re addressed to the NFA for rulings?

 

[Jackpine Savage]

Didn’t the bump stock get thrown out BUT it will be re addressed to the NFA for rulings?

The bump stock ban was struck down in the 5th circuit only. As far as I know it is still in effect for the rest of the country. At least until the supremes weigh in.

Here's Washington Gun Law's latest video on the pistol brace BS. RT 21:06

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnvPdE75qZs

 

[33dInd]

Ya know
I just mighta dodged this on
I have a clone vesta mp5 pistol
I almost bought a stock for it
And decided I could better use that for another handgun
So
I’m still not a felon
Lucky me

Those dirty
Rotten
No good commie leftist
Egg sucking sons of dawgs

 

[Dozdoats]

Play SAS. Put a single point sling on it and push into the sling for more stability.

https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/index.php?threads/angstadt-arms-mdp-9-and-push-sling-instead-of-pistol-brace.625163/

This is old tech but then I am old ...

 

[Jackpine Savage]

I just ran across a piece of information from a trust lawyer. IF you plan on registering your new 'SBR', and IF you have an existing Trust that you would prefer to have the SBR registered to rather than to you as an individual, then that 'SBR' needs to be transferred to the trust prior to this 'rule' being published. The lawyer suggested filling out a bill of sale and then taking a picture of it to get a time date stamp. FWIW and IANAL.