SCI AMS Official: SUN DOES NOT CREATE EARTH'S WEATHER

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thinkright

Contributing Member
The official position of the American Meteorological Society is that the Sun does not create Earth's weather or climate. I present to you direct quotes and statements gathered during peer-review with the AMS and from the Bulletins of the AMS editorial board that their position is that the Sun *does not* create our climate on Earth!

Follow up: I did receive a reply from the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society's journal editor, about my request for reconsideration. This is his reply:

"After again reading your manuscript and the reviewers' comments, I do not see reason to change the decision."

Thus, the confirmed official editorial position of the AMS is that the Sun *does not* create our climate or Earth's weather.

I have written the editor back just now with the release of this video:

"Thank you for the reply #####. Thus, I will take it as the official position of the AMS and its Bulletin's journal that the Sun does not create the climate and meteorological phenomena on Earth, given that this was the clearly-stated position of one of the reviewers. You may be interested in watching this YouTube video where I discuss the BAMS peer-review process and what the AMS states as it official position of the Sun not being responsible for the creation of Earth's weather and climate: [Y/T link]"

Sorry for the ling video, but I have to fill you entirely in on why I've been gone for so long, and what project has been developing behind the scenes. I've been hard at work, and you will be amazed at what I present to you in this long video.

 
Countrymouse

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
I "guess" he's being "splitting-hairs" technical---because no, there is no "weather" on other planets our sun shines on that is similar to "weather" on earth---because earth HAS WATER and AN ATMOSPHERE, and they don't. So maybe "technically" he can say it isn't the "SUN" causing our weather, but the fact that earth has water and an atmosphere---and it's only because the existing water and air are HEATED by the sun, that we get "weather."

But if we had the water and the air, and NO sun---THEN would we STILL have "weather"?

Like I said, splitting hairs.
 
Ractivist

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
overwhelming the systems......it is amazing. It's like they are paid to come up with an absurd thesis, and then promote no matter the response......twisted to the max.
 
FaithfulSkeptic

FaithfulSkeptic

Carrying the mantle of doubt
The AMS "position" in the OP underscores just how insane some of these people have become. It's getting to the point where I'm seriously questioning if there's some sort of toxin in our environment ... kinda like past cultures unwittingly exposing themselves to high levels of lead.
 
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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Look.

I went to an Engineering, Chemistry, Business and D-1 Hockey School (CLEARLY NOT in order of preference and concern LOL).

We had a SUNY College (Co-School), the primary concentration of The Arts, Jewelry, Conservatory (well THEY called it Crane Institute but down here Oberlin calls it Con(servatory--same diff), Teaching Certificates and MRS degrees. (Yes, I'm a solid victim of Clagstone Technocratic U Chauvinism, and Chivalry-IS-US. (graduated early enough in the 70's to remember what that means)

Which meant that the guys n gals teaching STEM to Staties tended to have ZILCH, ZIP, NADA sense of humor, They taught FACTS because right down the road we were being taught FACTS as well.

My Meteorology Prof was from State but he was REALLY solid on HONEST SCIENCE.

Sometimes I miss the interactions, but not the Cuomo State BS.
 
Satanta

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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So the same people who guarantee a 1% chance of Rain in a Drought, Cannot tell me what the Weather is going to be like with any certainty in the next 12 hours unless it is already Obvious now tell me the Sun does not 'Make the Earth's Weather'?

Well, technically he was not Bullshitting-just Omitting and using word games.

Ask him if it "Affects" the Earth's Weather and let's see his answer.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
The sun has basically gone into hibernation, which means a major ice age is on its way. In recent years scientists have stated that a global ice age could happen within fifteen years or less. Cue in AOC and Greta screeching that we’re all going to be dead by 2030 and that our children’s childhoods have been stolen from them...

Deduce what you will...

If one wants to financially rape and then enslave humanity the one needs a truth other than our Sun is winding down for a long slumber. They need to keep pushing man made climate change. Ergo the Sun has no effect on the earths weather.

Cue in humanity 7.0 after a long ice age.
 
FaithfulSkeptic

FaithfulSkeptic

Carrying the mantle of doubt
thinkright, I watched the video and while your presentation makes clear logical sense to me, I believe your mistake was assuming you were going to get a response based on unbiased science untainted by preexisting beliefs and motives.

Perhaps Alston Chase explains it best: When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to a quest for power.
 
FaithfulSkeptic

FaithfulSkeptic

Carrying the mantle of doubt
I will add, if you sue these people such that the last place they'd feel comfortable is science ... well then they'd simply go into politics as they're already half way there. Surely you see this. Suing them won't solve the problem, it will just move it somewhere else.
 
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thinkright

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FaithfulSkeptic said:
The AMS "position" in the OP underscores just how insane some of these people have become. It's getting to the point where I'm seriously questioning if there's some sort of toxin in our environment ... kinda like past cultures unwittingly exposing themselves to high levels of lead.
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I know! Sometimes I swear I'm dealing with psychotic aliens or something. WHO would ever say that the Sun doesn't create the weather!? Well...humans who are paid to say that.
 
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thinkright

Contributing Member
FaithfulSkeptic said:
thinkright, I watched the video and while your presentation makes clear logical sense to me, I believe your mistake was assuming you were going to get a response based on unbiased science untainted by preexisting beliefs and motives.

Perhaps Alston Chase explains it best: When the search for truth is confused with political advocacy, the pursuit of knowledge is reduced to a quest for power.
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Very nice quote. Precisely that.

Well that's just the thing. I am an astrophysicist and work in academia. I SHOULD be able to expect a response based on unbiased thinking and untainted by pre-existing beliefs and motives, and to just have a conversation between peers about basic scientific facts.

Thus, this is really the entire point of the OP: I want people to witness for a fact how the "system" works, and that it is DONE FOR. It is finished. Burn it down. We need something new...and we have it ready to go with Propertarianism and Ontological Mathematics. Still lots of work to do then. But now...we need everyone to see just how much the establishment lies to them.

We all know, of course, that they lie. But they'll lie to the extent that they'll claim that the Sun doesn't create the weather, and that flat Earth mathematics makes for good science. They are 100% totally corrupt, in other words. No salvation.
 
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thinkright

Contributing Member
Sacajawea said:
IMO, this spreading level of stupidity and ignorance, is a slow-moving (even glacial) ELE all by itself.
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Absolutely. You perceive it correctly.

You guys know that I am an astrophysicist and work in academia. I am continually struck at how intelligent and insightful and smart and great the layman I find on the internet are as compared to my left-wing colleagues...or scientists at the AMS for that matter!

But yes...that's what we're facing. And at this point, the only solution for these frauds and this stupidity IS for it to burn down as its own ELE.

WE, people like us who understand basic (and more intelligent and insightful) things, will survive, pick it up, and create a better world. The problem is that the idiots want to take us out along with themselves.
 
ShadowMan

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
thinkright, I grew up in academia as my father was a college Chemistry Professor. I was amazed a how savant they were and yet soooo down right stupid in common place things. Almost like they were "IDIOT savants" and only singularly masters of ONE SUBJECT matter area, yet couldn't tie their shoe laces or hammer a nail without major injury.

I have no idea what is with the current intellectual main stream scientific thinking as it borders on ignoramus. Even worse are politicians and their mundane followers that believe every word coming out of their mouths no matter how stupid and ludicrous. Not a single drop of logic or common sense at all.

My personal theory is that we've allowed these idiots to bred and thrive because we don't have enough Lions, Tigers and Bears free roaming that would ultimately simply eat these hordes of stupid people because they don't have the common sense to know not to pet the BIG KITTIES.
 
ShadowMan

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
thinkright said:
WE, people like us who understand basic (and more intelligent and insightful) things, will survive, pick it up, and create a better world. The problem is that the idiots want to take us out along with themselves.
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That is my hope as well. That out of chaos will come common sense. I'm sure there were Ancients that felt the same way. I think there will be basically three kinds of people that will come out of the chaos of a modern civilization collapse. The first will be Mongol like conquering warriors. Reavers and ravagers to whom "Might Makes Right" and will,, not unlike locusts, devour anything available and do everything possible to destroy anything and anyone that opposes them. They will neither build, rebuild, nor plant, rather they will feast off the carcass of a fallen humanity.

The second group will be Scavengers who like vermin will survive off the remnants of the lost civilization. They will 'Duct Tape' the bones of the past for as long as possible but they too, will neither build, rebuild, nor plant for the future.

The third will be the preppers, like here on TB2K, that have had the foresight to prepare for the collapse and saved as much of the 'old knowledge' and skill sets to build, rebuild and they will plant for the future. Hopefully they will predominate and prosper over the long term ultimately out surviving the other two, perhaps then we can build a better world to look forward to.

One can hope. Whatever happens things will be a total chaotic mess for many generations. I was reminded by my FIL, "a reinnassance man and master builder" that humanity lost the knowledge of something as simple as concrete for over a thousand years, and to this day we still can't duplicate some of the forms of concrete that the Romans developed. It wasn't until the end of WWII that humans could move as much food and water as the Roman engineers did on a routine basis before their fall. I wonder what else was lost when the Library of Alexandria was torched and the Roman Empire collapsed?

Of special note. Rome did not collapse over night and most likely, neither shall we. It took Rome hundreds of years to finally fade into history. However I think our current civilization's demise will be much quicker. We may in fact already be within the zone of ultimate failure and collapse. Looking around we sure seem to be quickly headed that way.

FWIW......YMMV
 
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Kathy in FL

Kathy in FL

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Academia has always been full of the "I think therefore it must be so" type people with huge egos. Unfortunately too many of them are so naïve that they have become the leading edge of the army of useful idiots being manipulated to destroy the conservative, moral, just, and commonsense society that built this country.
 
20Gauge

20Gauge

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packyderms_wife said:
Follow the money, how much did he get paid to say this crap? What’s next the earth is flat?
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Actually it sounds like someone who is trying to get out on top of the "climate change" scam. Everyone who is in it seems to be trying to out scare or "science" each other.
 
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raven

TB Fanatic
I used to believe that an IQ of 80 was stupid.
Then I realized the average IQ of the US was 98. And over half of the population is stupid enough to vote for Hillary.
So I revised my thinking, an IQ of 100 is stupid.
And I sit here and realize that there is a new virus in China which is the result of eating bats and people do not understand quarantine. The average IQ of China is 100. The average IQ of Hong Kong is 107.
So, I have revised my thinking once again. An IQ of 110 is stupid
- and we are all pretty much screwed because an IQ of less than 110 is completely survivable and these people run the planet
 
Grouchy Granny

Grouchy Granny

Deceased
Hmm - meteorologist says it all. They can't forecast the weather for beans.

The forecast for today here was supposed to be 0% chance of precipitation - well it's 0%'ing out there right now with snow flurries. I guess if it's not a measurable amount it's 0%?

Do they ever look out a window? Oh wait a minute, that would involve a very involved surgery to install a window in their stomach so they can see out.
 
von Koehler

von Koehler

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