EBOLA Beating Ebola Hinges on Sipping a Gallon of Liquid a Day

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...nged-on-sipping-a-gallon-of-liquid-a-day.html

By Jason Gale Nov 17, 2014 2:03 AM ET 127




The best medical advice for surviving Ebola right now might fit in one word: drink.

With targeted drugs and vaccines at least months away, doctors and public health experts are learning from Ebola survivors what simple steps helped them beat the infection. Turns out drinking 4 liters (1 gallon) or more of rehydration solution a day -- a challenge for anyone and especially those wracked by relentless bouts of vomiting -- is crucial.



“When people are infected, they get dry as a crisp really quickly,” said Simon Mardel, an emergency room doctor advising the World Health Organization on Ebola in Sierra Leone. “Then the tragedy is that they don’t want to drink.”


Aggressive fluid replacement was deemed critical in saving two American health-care workers with Ebola at the Emory University Hospital in Atlanta, according to a study published in the New England Journal of Medicine last week. Interviews Mardel and WHO colleagues conducted with six of the dozen patients who survived Ebola in Nigeria, where the fatality ratio was much lower, also point to the importance of drinking. Ada Igonoh, a doctor who caught Ebola in late July while working at the First Consultants Hospital in Lagos, said she took oral rehydration salts, or ORS, mixed in water as soon her gastrointestinal symptoms started -- even before her Ebola diagnosis. Once hospitalized, she trawled the Internet on her iPad for insights from survivors.




“I knew that in diarrheal diseases, shock from dehydration is the number one cause of death,” Igonoh said in an e-mail. “From my research on Ebola while in isolation, I found that to be true.”

The WHO shared transcripts of interviews with Igonoh and five other Ebola survivors with the patients’ permission to provide insight into clinical experiences and management. Igonoh also answered follow-up questions in a direct e-mail.

The Ebola Scourge

Patients in Liberia lost 5 liters of fluid a day from diarrhea alone, doctors treating cases there wrote in a Nov. 5 paper in the New England Journal of Medicine.

Severe fluid loss can cause a type of shock that prevents the heart from pumping enough blood to the body, eventually leading to multiple organ failure.

“As I took the ORS and treated dehydration, it provided me with energy, and my immune system was able to battle the virus,” 29-year-old Igonoh said.

Simple Message

Patients become “stunningly dehydrated” because they don’t feel like eating or drinking in the early stages of the illness, and then later they lose liters of fluid from profuse sweating, vomiting and diarrhea, according to Mardel.


“You don’t want to drink, then you’re too weak,” he said in a telephone interview from Freetown. “In the last stage, you’re in shock and your gut has shut down.”

Mardel has worked on medical aid and emergency relief operations for 30 years, including responding to outbreaks of Lassa fever in Sierra Leone, Ebola in Uganda and Marburg virus disease in the Democratic Republic of Congo.

Mortality could be reduced by delivering a simple message about the importance of taking fluids and picking the right painkillers, he said. Paracetamol, the active ingredient in Panadol, is the preferred medication for pain and fever, and picking others such as aspirin and ibuprofen can worsen bleeding, he said.

“We will halve the mortality by firstly just stopping anti-inflammatories and giving hydration, and really pushing it,” Mardel said. “I want every man and woman in Sierra Leone to know this. I want sports personalities to be talking about it. I want everybody to be talking about it.”

Ebola Blueprint

In Nigeria, 40 percent of those known to have been infected died. Across the rest of West Africa, the fatality rate is about 70 percent.

Nigeria’s success in stopping Ebola shows how the virus can be stamped out and is a blueprint for other developing countries at risk of the disease, the WHO said after declaring Africa’s most-populous nation Ebola-free last month.

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Liberian-American Patrick Sawyer introduced Ebola to Nigeria in July when he arrived on a flight to Lagos, a city with an estimated 21 million people, according to the WHO. In addition to Sawyer, five health workers and the protocol officer who received him at the airport died of Ebola, according to Nigeria’s health ministry. Twelve survived.

Learning from their experience and putting those lessons to use in other West African countries is key, because too many patients arrive at treatment centers severely parched and difficult to salvage, Mardel said.

Spurning Care

Patients typically seek medical aid after five days of illness, according to a study of Ebola cases in Conakry also published Nov. 5 in the New England Journal of Medicine.

“Over eight to 10 days of illness, you will need possibly 40 liters of fluid,” Mardel said. “Day after day, if you’re not getting that, we can’t suddenly give you 20 liters to catch up.”

A fluid deficit and “profound electrolyte derangement” appears to increase the risk of death, the WHO said in a Nov. 6 statement. In that document, the Geneva-based agency recommended intravenous rehydration. Not everyone agrees that that delivery route is the best way to go. Oral rehydration, which is taken up in the gut, seems to help patients maintain a better balance of electrolytes, according to Mardel.

Don’t Gulp

Most intravenous rehydration fluids also don’t have much potassium, calcium, or magnesium, doctors at Emory University Hospital wrote in their journal article last week. They recommend supplementing oral rehydration with all three, especially in patients with large-volume diarrhea.

Still, drinking has its challenges. Patients must overcome recurring nausea, as well as debilitating joint pain that can make gripping and movement difficult.

Ebola survivor Fadipe Akinniyi Emmanuel, another doctor at the First Consultants Hospital where Igonoh works, said gulping down the rehydration solution made him sick.

“Each time I attempted to take the ORS, I vomited,” he told the WHO, according to the transcript. Eventually, Emmanuel found he could keep down 4 liters of fluids a day by taking frequent, small sips between bouts of nausea.

‘Most Important Thing’

Rehydration is “the single most important thing” in the management of Ebola, Emmanuel said in an e-mailed response to questions.

“It really helped restore what I was losing when I was stooling and vomiting relentlessly,” said the 29-year-old doctor, who still suffers occasional joint pain and stiffness as a result of his past Ebola infection.

Flavoring the liquid also helps. The granules that Emmanuel’s colleague Igonoh took at home were orange-flavored and much more pleasant than the flavorless kind she was given in the hospital, she said.

“I had to mentally force myself,” she said, according to the transcript.

Igonoh used less of the rehydration salts per liter of water than recommended because a more diluted brew was easier to stomach, helping her to increase her intake, she said.

“You don’t want to drink anything,” Igonoh said. “You are too weak.” That’s when morale is key, said the doctor, who now sports a shaved head after the viral illness caused most of her hair to fall out. “You should be able to tell yourself, no matter how many people die, you are going to survive. And you will survive.”
 

xtreme_right

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Mortality could be reduced by delivering a simple message about the importance of taking fluids and picking the right painkillers, he said. Paracetamol, the active ingredient in Panadol, is the preferred medication for pain and fever, and picking others such as aspirin and ibuprofen can worsen bleeding, he said.

“We will halve the mortality by firstly just stopping anti-inflammatories and giving hydration, and really pushing it,” Mardel said. “I want every man and woman in Sierra Leone to know this. I want sports personalities to be talking about it. I want everybody to be talking about it.”

A fluid deficit and “profound electrolyte derangement” appears to increase the risk of death, the WHO said in a Nov. 6 statement. In that document, the Geneva-based agency recommended intravenous rehydration. Not everyone agrees that that delivery route is the best way to go. Oral rehydration, which is taken up in the gut, seems to help patients maintain a better balance of electrolytes, according to Mardel.

Most intravenous rehydration fluids also don’t have much potassium, calcium, or magnesium, doctors at Emory University Hospital wrote in their journal article last week. They recommend supplementing oral rehydration with all three, especially in patients with large-volume diarrhea.

“Each time I attempted to take the ORS, I vomited,” he told the WHO, according to the transcript. Eventually, Emmanuel found he could keep down 4 liters of fluids a day by taking frequent, small sips between bouts of nausea.

Flavoring the liquid also helps. The granules that Emmanuel’s colleague Igonoh took at home were orange-flavored and much more pleasant than the flavorless kind she was given in the hospital, she said.

Igonoh used less of the rehydration salts per liter of water than recommended because a more diluted brew was easier to stomach, helping her to increase her intake, she said.

Thanks for posting this article. This is the first time I've read tips from survivors. I highlighted some of the important info. The part about which pain reliever to take/not take is especially informative. Thanks again!
 

summerthyme

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I bought a bunch of packets of unsweetened Koolaid and put them into the preps. Figured that the homemade ORS would be a LOT more palatable with some flavoring, if it comes down to that.

Summerthyme (I'm also thinking that barley water, probably flavored with boullion into a "broth", would be valuable. It's loaded with minerals)
 

The Mountain

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To the best of my knowledge, we don't have/use this in the States?

Paracetamol is Acetaminophen.

And "Kool-Aid" is not going to do anything. It's just sugar. You'd be better off (for relative values of "better off") using the electrolyte powders you can get from the drug store, or in a worst-case situation, Gatorade. On that side, as the guy says, small sips works better. Alternate between a sip of room-temp water and a sip of the electrolyte fluid.
 

summerthyme

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Paracetamol is Acetaminophen.

And "Kool-Aid" is not going to do anything. It's just sugar. You'd be better off (for relative values of "better off") using the electrolyte powders you can get from the drug store, or in a worst-case situation, Gatorade. On that side, as the guy says, small sips works better. Alternate between a sip of room-temp water and a sip of the electrolyte fluid.

You didn't read my post. I bought the Koolaid (which we never drink, normally) to FLAVOR the oral rehydration solution. If you've ever tried to drink ORS by itself... well, good luck if you're also nauseous!

Absolutely agree that Koolaid by itself isn't worth much.

Summerthyme
 

Double_A

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I've tried to drink pedolite ORS, I can't stomach it. I think Summerthymes idea of koolaid packets makes sense as the small packets I've seen contain NO SUGAR or sweeteners.

My current job is physically laborious, I lose several liters of sweat. I rehydrate with a combination of plain water AND the Safeway brand of Sports drink that has HALF the Sugar and TWICE the potassium of Gatoraid. Typically I drink 32 oz of water and 32oz of that special Safeway drink per shift.
 

The Mountain

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You didn't read my post. I bought the Koolaid (which we never drink, normally) to FLAVOR the oral rehydration solution. If you've ever tried to drink ORS by itself... well, good luck if you're also nauseous!

Absolutely agree that Koolaid by itself isn't worth much.

Summerthyme

Sorry. When you said "homemade ORS" I interpreted that as meaning that the Koolaid *was* the homemade ORS.
 

Night Owl

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With diarrhea diseases I use clay water and salt water brine. Works a treat.

I like the clay water idea, but I hope you boil first.

Simple solution - Diarrhea cure is take powder cinnamon every 15 mins. Place a teaspoon under front of tongue and rub tongue back and forth right to left to dissolve, then you won't aspirate on the powder,if that doesn't work for you, put in liquid, but make sure you get 1 t. Down every 15 mins. Easy to carry a small bottle of cinnamon or if out many stores carry spices.

When we are in Asia we do this when we get bad water and our stomach starts to churn, we use under tongue method and after 30 mins it stops hurting and we continue to take for several hours afterwards to make sure.

My personal thoughts about some things mentioned, in emergency you have to use what you can so I understand why you prep these things but they are not good for our health...try to find healthy alternatives to prep if you can, if not they will work
Koolaide is full of food coloring dyes
Instant Broths have MSG and food colors....it has been proven that MSG causes Alzheimer's and one should try to stay away from that anyway.
Sugar is inflammatory to the whole body system, arthritis, cancer, any weaken organ will be affected by inflammation.

Lastly I would stock Coconut water! It works better than gadoraide or Pediolite. In 3rd world countries they use it in place of plasma. It is truly a God sent as to what it can do
 

Cardinal

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By "cinnamon" do you mean real (Cylonese) cinnamon or Cassia (which is what is normally sold as cinnamon?)
 

China Connection

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Can you get cinnamon naturally from foods?

Cinnamon is an additive to countless foods. When purchased in the store, common spice cinnamon could be one of two types or a mixture of both. It is either "true" or Ceylon cinnamon, which is easier to grind but thought to be less effective for diabetes. Or, and more likely, it could be the darker-colored cassia cinnamon.\

http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/lifestyle-guide-11/supplement-guide-cinnamon
 

Shacknasty Shagrat

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Here is one home made oral dehydration solution and instructions.
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Get the necessary ingredients. To make your own ORS solution, you’ll need:

Real Salt
No Salt (potassium chloride)
Baking Soda
Granulated Sugar

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Measure and combine the ingredients in a container. Combine ¼-teaspoon real salt, ¼-teaspoon no salt, ¼-teaspoon baking soda, with 2½-tablespoons granulated sugar. Use a spoon or whisk to quickly incorporate these dry ingredients together.

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Add in your water. Add 4-cups of water to this mixture. Make sure your measurements are accurate, otherwise you could become sicker if the proportions are off.
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Mix the solution well. Use your spoon or whisk to carefully mix all of the ingredients into the water. When the water looks clear again, the ORS solution has dissolved and is ready for drinking.

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Drink the solution. The solution should be consumed by the sick person in small sips over the course of the day. Try to take drinks every 5-10 minutes, regardless of vomiting or diarrhea. The solution will help to maintain hydration better than plain water will during the bout of sickness.[2]

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-an-Oral-Rehydration-Salts-Drink-(ORS)
 

China Connection

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What are the health benefits of cinnamon?
Last updated: 26 September 2014


Cinnamon is a spice that comes from the branches of wild trees that belong to the genus "Cinnamomum" - native to the Caribbean, South America, and Southeast Asia.

There are two main types of cinnamon:

Cinnamomum verum (Ceylon cinnamon), most commonly used in the Western world
Cinnamomum aromaticum (Cassia cinnamon or Chinese cinnamon), which originates from southern China, is typically less expensive than Ceylon cinnamon.

Cinnamon has been consumed since 2000 BC in Ancient Egypt, where it was very highly prized (almost considered to be a panacea). In medieval times doctors used cinnamon to treat conditions such as coughing, arthritis and sore throats.

Modern research indicates that this spice may have some very beneficial properties.

This MNT Knowledge Center feature is part of a collection of articles on the health benefits of popular foods.
Health benefits

According to the U.S. National Library of Medicine, Cinnamon is used to help treat muscle spasms, vomiting, diarrhea, infections, the common cold, loss of appetite, and erectile dysfunction (ED).

Cinnamon may lower blood sugar in people with type 1 or type 2 diabetes, according to Diabetes UK.1 However high quality research supporting the claim remains scarce.

Fungal infections - according to the National Institutes of Health2, cinnamaldehyde - a chemical found in Cassia cinnamon - can help fight against bacterial and fungal infections.
Cinnamon-other
Cinnamon sticks or quills.

Diabetes - cinnamon may help improve glucose and lipids levels3 in patients with type 2 diabetes, according to a study published in Diabetics Care.

The study authors concluded that consuming up to 6 grams of cinnamon per day "reduces serum glucose, triglyceride, LDL cholesterol, and total cholesterol in people with type 2 diabetes." and that "the inclusion of cinnamon in the diet of people with type 2 diabetes will reduce risk factors associated with diabetes and cardiovascular diseases."

In addition, a certain cinnamon extract can reduce fasting blood sugar levels in patients, researchers reported in the European Journal of Clinical Investigation.

Alzheimer's disease - Tel Aviv University researchers discovered that cinnamon may help prevent Alzheimer's disease. According to Prof. Michael Ovadia, of the Department of Zoology at Tel Aviv University, an extract found in cinnamon bark, called CEppt, contains properties that can inhibit the development of the disease.

HIV - a study of Indian medicinal plants revealed that cinnamon may potentially be effective against HIV4. According to the study authors, "the most effective extracts against HIV-1 and HIV-2 are respectively Cinnamomum cassia (bark) and Cardiospermum helicacabum (shoot + fruit)."

Multiple Sclerosis - cinnamon may help stop the destructive process of multiple sclerosis (MS), according to a neurological scientist at Rush University Medical Center. Cinnamon could help eliminate the need to take some expensive and unpleasant drugs.

Lower the negative effects of high fat meals - Penn State researchers revealed that diets rich in cinnamon can help reduce the body's negative responses to eating high-fat meals.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/266069.php
 

Night Owl

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Thank you China Connection, I was just going to post similar information.

Also, I use to go out on Navajo land to get clay for pottery and medicinal purposes, I thought you were referring that you were getting real out of the ground clay yourself without sterilizing of some kind. Thanks for site. Night Owl.

What are the health benefits of cinnamon?
Last updated: 26 September 2014


Cinnamon is a spice that comes from the branches of wild trees that belong to the genus "Cinnamomum" - native to the Caribbean, South America, and Southeast Asia.

There are two main types of cinnamon:

Cinnamomum verum (Ceylon cinnamon), most commonly used in the Western world
Cinnamomum aromaticum (Cassia cinnamon or Chinese cinnamon), which originates from southern China, is typically less expensive than Ceylon cinnamon.

Cinnamon has been consumed since 2000 BC in Ancient Egypt, where it was very highly prized (almost considered to be a panacea). In medieval times doctors used cinnamon to treat conditions such as coughing, arthritis and sore throats.

Modern research indicates that this spice may have some very beneficial properties.

This MNT Knowledge Center feature is part of a collection of articles on the health benefits of popular foods.
Health benefits

According to the U.S. National Library of Medicine, Cinnamon is used to help treat muscle spasms, vomiting, diarrhea, infections, the common cold, loss of appetite, and erectile dysfunction (ED).

Cinnamon may lower blood sugar in people with type 1 or type 2 diabetes, according to Diabetes UK.1 However high quality research supporting the claim remains scarce.

Fungal infections - according to the National Institutes of Health2, cinnamaldehyde - a chemical found in Cassia cinnamon - can help fight against bacterial and fungal infections.
Cinnamon-other
Cinnamon sticks or quills.

Diabetes - cinnamon may help improve glucose and lipids levels3 in patients with type 2 diabetes, according to a study published in Diabetics Care.

The study authors concluded that consuming up to 6 grams of cinnamon per day "reduces serum glucose, triglyceride, LDL cholesterol, and total cholesterol in people with type 2 diabetes." and that "the inclusion of cinnamon in the diet of people with type 2 diabetes will reduce risk factors associated with diabetes and cardiovascular diseases."

In addition, a certain cinnamon extract can reduce fasting blood sugar levels in patients, researchers reported in the European Journal of Clinical Investigation.

Alzheimer's disease - Tel Aviv University researchers discovered that cinnamon may help prevent Alzheimer's disease. According to Prof. Michael Ovadia, of the Department of Zoology at Tel Aviv University, an extract found in cinnamon bark, called CEppt, contains properties that can inhibit the development of the disease.

HIV - a study of Indian medicinal plants revealed that cinnamon may potentially be effective against HIV4. According to the study authors, "the most effective extracts against HIV-1 and HIV-2 are respectively Cinnamomum cassia (bark) and Cardiospermum helicacabum (shoot + fruit)."

Multiple Sclerosis - cinnamon may help stop the destructive process of multiple sclerosis (MS), according to a neurological scientist at Rush University Medical Center. Cinnamon could help eliminate the need to take some expensive and unpleasant drugs.

Lower the negative effects of high fat meals - Penn State researchers revealed that diets rich in cinnamon can help reduce the body's negative responses to eating high-fat meals.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/266069.php
 

TXKajun

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I drink about 32 oz of water at work/day in one form or another, usually 2 cups coffee, rest in pure water. I think I'm gonna try getting my other 32 oz using ice cubes, filtered water and JW Red scotch in the evenings. :D

Kajun
 

bw

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My current job is physically laborious, I lose several liters of sweat. I rehydrate with a combination of plain water AND the Safeway brand of Sports drink that has HALF the Sugar and TWICE the potassium of Gatoraid. Typically I drink 32 oz of water and 32oz of that special Safeway drink per shift.

When I worked outside in Baton Rouge in the summer, I'd go through five quarts of hydration drink, and lose it all through sweating. After five, I figured that was enough for a day. You can lose an amazing amount of water in sweat.
 

Doomer Doug

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This kind of advice, even if it is accurate, is totally meaningless in terms of Africa and West Africa. One gallon of clean, fresh water is not available in Africa, per day; per person. Further, not to be too crude about it, you will need access to clean, modern toilets and sanitation systems.

What this so called advice means for Africa is you will have people drinking filthy water, getting OTHER WATER BORNE DISEASES, and then urinating all over the place further degrading public sanitation.

This may offer some useful help in a modern country with clean water and lots of functioning toilets.
 
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