HEALTH Celox & Quickclot for Trauma, have you ever used them?

BigFootsCousin

BigFootsCousin

Molon Labe!
I've never used these products in the ED (ER) setting before, so I have NO experience with them. Have you ever used them before?

If you have used these products, what were the circumstances, and the outcomes if you know them.

These items seem to be available all over the internet, yet in my 24 years of professional practise, I've never encountered their use. Ever.

Thanks all!

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nomadcrna

Senior Member
Yes, they are very common,mainly pre-hospital.
Battlefield is extremely common.
Works very well. The new impregnated gauze is the best.
 
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Optimus Prime

Senior Member
I am an ER nusre and have never seen a patient present with any form of these coagulation products. Although I did use QuikClot on my wife. Prior to her passing she was on Coumadin (blood thinner) and sliced her finger with a kitchen knife. I applied the QuikClot, powder form, and it stopped her bleeding almost immediately. I covered the wound with telfa (non-stick dressing) and gauze. The next morning took off the dressing, cleaned the wound and replaced the dressing using Foille (neosporin type cream) and telfa and a large bandaid. She never complained of burning or any other symptom. The laceration healed quite well in fact. I have stocked my first aid supplies with several of each type.
 
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Xarbg

crazy in AL
We carry them in our med kits, the impregnated gauze type. Used one about a month ago for the first time. Pt had a major laceration to the leg from a power tool, with significant blood loss. Worked very well.
 
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chickenrancher

Veteran Member
I had a resident at work that got a laceration over his eye and nothing we tried stopped the blood, frequent soaked dressings. I then remembered I had some QR(Quick Relief) in my bag. I applied a bit of the powder and the bleeding stopped within 2 min. Very impressive since nothing was working and you know how head wounds bleed. I think it has a different name now. I just ordered the gauze packs and more of the QR, some from Amazon, the larger packs from Oregon mountain Community (found on search) as they were cheaper from them.
 
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Terrwyn

Veteran Member
Yes, I have had occasion to use Celox twice. Both times for small deep finger cuts in the kitchen. It works immediately to stop the bleeding. At the time if I had also had the glue they are using instead of stiches, i could have avoided a 1000.00 emergency room charge.
 
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Metolius

Inactive
I have not yet had the need to use it, but I do carry Celox in my kit when I hike, am out working on the ranch here, out camping, and I know where to get it in the house should an emergency present itself.

We are pretty far from town, and we are our own first responders, so we have to have a few things on hand in the hopes we can either make it to town or be able to wait for Life Flight.
 
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ktrapper

Veteran Member
A friend of mine that just moved into a cabin of ours is/was a Navy Corpsman. He recommends Celox first, then Quickclot. He says to have both the powder and the bandages. In case of a bullet wound the bandages have to be pushed into the hole to stop the bleeding. He has used the celox in the field several times. It does cause some tissue damage so you will have to debride the wound before closure. It is a life saver.

KT
 
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Metolius

Inactive
Kadosh said:
Anyone know of a source for the stitch glue?
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Here is a link that explains superglue, vet bond - and the human version of vetbond, Dermabond.

http://www.kk.org/cooltools/archives/000069.php#disqus_thread

I think I am going to add some vetbond or dermabond to my hiking/emergency packs. I have superglue, but this would be far better for larger wounds when we are in the middle of nowhere. I only checked amazon, who has dermabond, but it is very spendy. They also have vetbond for far less. And another glue product called Gluture Topical Tissue Adhesive (Abbott Labs).

**Has anyone used vetbond, Gluture, or dermabond, and what do you think of it? Are these the only stitch glues out there?
 
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Metolius

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Also - iirc, you can't use Celox if you are allergic to shellfish (though some say it isn't likely to be a problem, see google for reasons).

And there is much more - so research before adding it to your kit. There are several of these clotting products out there, along with pros/cons of each. ETA: and fwiw, here is a discussion where some of the various issues are discussed:
http://www.firehouse.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-116447.html
 
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amarilla

Veteran Member
Quick Clot used to (maybe still does) have a Nose Bleed kit for a couple of dollars. I used that several times. Worked fine.

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Nina

Contributing Member
My grandson gets nosebleeds occasionally, and he has used the nose bleed patch, which I bought from Amazon, and it stopped the bleeding immediately. Very good product.
 
BigFootsCousin

BigFootsCousin

Molon Labe!
Nina said:
My grandson gets nosebleeds occasionally, and he has used the nose bleed patch, which I bought from Amazon, and it stopped the bleeding immediately. Very good product.
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Never heard of this product.....I've gotta research this because epistaxis can be a real killer.

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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
BigFootsCousin said:
Never heard of this product.....I've gotta research this because epistaxis can be a real killer.

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Absolutely.

Long ago and far away had a member of our vollie squad rediculing one of the docs for ordering a pt transferred from Potsdam down to Syrcuse Upstate/Crouse hospital for a nose bleed (2hr transport we often did in sub 1.5 hrs).

One of the EMT's that went on the transport asked Walt if he knew how much blood our nosebleed lost enroute. He laughes about it until she told him the pt had lost 3 units of blood....


NOWADAYS, MY PERSONAL kit has a medium-sized Foley to handle that kind of issue....posteriors are the killers and a foley CAN control the bleeding.
 
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Nina

Contributing Member
My grandson bled a lot with his nosebleeds and for a longer time than we were comfortable with...until we found the Celox. It stopped the bleeding so quickly...he carries a patch in his wallet now and never forgets it. Amazon....Celox nosebleed dressing...5 pads...$19.99 with free shipping for qualifying orders.
 
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