EBOLA Ebola unstoppable without total quarantine - Air Traffic Connections From West Africa

Sleeping Cobra

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Published: 2 days ago

NEW YORK – In an article published in a scientific journal one month ago, an international team of scientists correctly predicted Ebola would reach the United States by the end of September, arguing a reduction in airline travel of as much as 80 percent would only delay the international spread of the disease by three to four weeks at most.

The study, published in the scientific journal PLOS Currents: Outbreaks, used data supplied by the World Health Organization on the current Ebola outbreak in West Africa.

On Tuesday, the Centers for Disease Control reported the first case of Ebola brought to the U.S. by an airline passenger.

The study noted the near impossibility of completely ending air travel from Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia, the three West African countries most affected by the disease. It pointed out that airlines that have discontinued flights continue to assist West African travelers by booking them on other airlines.

“We have explored the scenario assuming an 80 percent airline traffic flow reduction to and from the West African region that provided evidence of a general time-delay of the distribution characterizing the probability of case importation of about three to four weeks,” the scientists said.

“Although this delay may be useful, it would not help much unless interventions on the ground could be put in place in the interval that were effective in stopping the growth of the [Ebola] outbreak.”

The researchers also agreed with the World Health Organization and the Centers for Disease Control that restrictions in air travel “may hamper the deployment of personnel and support in the region, ultimately creating a counter-productive effect in the containment effort.”

The scientists said that containing Ebola in Nigeria was critical to the effort to control the disease, because Nigeria, the most populous nation in Africa with more than 166 million people, generates the most international travel.

Ranked in order, the top countries outside Africa where the scientists predicted Ebola would spread are the United Kingdom, Belgium, France, the United States and Germany.

Get the bestselling landmark account of the first emergence of the Ebola virus, Richard Preston’s No. 1 New York Times bestseller, “The Hot Zone.”

The scientists noted “the ability to detect Ebola cases during international flights can affect the risk of importation.” They added that airports that are final destinations are more at risk of importing Ebola, because people infected with the disease don’t usually show symptoms until three weeks later.

The study concluded with an ominous warning: “The current analysis shows that if the West African outbreak is not contained, the probability of international spread is going to increase consistently, especially if other countries are affected and not able to contain the epidemic.”

WND reported last week an immigration expert contends the Obama administration’s unwillingness to ban air travel from West Africa leaves the U.S. vulnerable to the disease.

WND has also reported Air France pilots and aircrews have pushed for the right to refuse to fly to West Africa.

The CDC issued a traveler’s alert for all U.S. residents “to avoid travel to Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leon because of unprecedented outbreaks of Ebola in those countries.” But the CDC alert stopped short of an air travel embargo, merely recommending “that travelers to these countries protect themselves by avoiding contact with the blood and body fluids of people who are sick with Ebola.”

http://www.wnd.com/2014/10/staggering-prediction-about-ebola-in-america/#6tzR75vrzKoo850k.99
 

Doomer Doug

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The PC mindset will NEVER ALLOW a Quarantine to happen until it is too late. What is going to happen is this. Individual people will self quarantine in the USA. They will reduce all social interaction as much as possible. They will stop going to the mall, the movies or any other public place they don't actually have to go. The economic consequences of this self quarantine will impact the 70 percent of the American GNP that is directly from all consumer spending. This will guarantee a recession/depression at the least.

The government, the media et all will not protect you. It is somewhat of a Darwinian mode here with regard to Ebola. Those fools who trust the government, and act like nothing is wrong, will continue to go to public places with no concern. As they die off, the remaining people will never trust the government and media again. This is what happened after the Black Death in 1348. Ebola is going to shatter the authority of the powers that be. They will seen as liars, WHO GOT PEOPLE KILLED.
 

BV141

Has No Life - Lives on TB
During the 1918 Influenza, the elite doctors in the US Army and Navy asked for a TOTAL quarantine of bases that experienced the influenza.
Without avail, the 'top brass' only issued orders for total quarantine weeks after an explosion in deaths.
 

Sleeping Cobra

TB Fanatic
During the 1918 Influenza, the elite doctors in the US Army and Navy asked for a TOTAL quarantine of bases that experienced the influenza.
Without avail, the 'top brass' only issued orders for total quarantine weeks after an explosion in deaths.

Sounds like that might happen in this Country - if it really does get that bad.
 

Sacajawea

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The PC mindset will NEVER ALLOW a Quarantine to happen until it is too late. What is going to happen is this. Individual people will self quarantine in the USA. They will reduce all social interaction as much as possible. They will stop going to the mall, the movies or any other public place they don't actually have to go. The economic consequences of this self quarantine will impact the 70 percent of the American GNP that is directly from all consumer spending. This will guarantee a recession/depression at the least.

The government, the media et all will not protect you. It is somewhat of a Darwinian mode here with regard to Ebola. Those fools who trust the government, and act like nothing is wrong, will continue to go to public places with no concern. As they die off, the remaining people will never trust the government and media again. This is what happened after the Black Death in 1348. Ebola is going to shatter the authority of the powers that be. They will seen as liars, WHO GOT PEOPLE KILLED.

And after the Black Death, came the renaissance... an increase in inter-country trade... the rise of the guilds & tradesmen (ie, the Middle Class)... so maybe there is something to look forward to, after a "time of troubles".
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
The ultimate goal in all of this is martial law.

They can then attempt to proceed with a gun confiscation.

This will then of course be the fire that lights the fuse of Civil War II.

Remember, the USA has to be broken before the New World Order
can be brought onto the scene.

The NWO is the goal of the globalist. Massive deaths due to a virus that
was brought into the USA on purpose, and the resulting martial law,
is simply a tool to achieve that goal.

We are at the bottom of the ninth inning, 2 outs, and 2 strikes for the USA republic.

Regards to all,
Nowski
 

NoDandy

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The PC mindset will NEVER ALLOW a Quarantine to happen until it is too late. What is going to happen is this. Individual people will self quarantine in the USA. They will reduce all social interaction as much as possible. They will stop going to the mall, the movies or any other public place they don't actually have to go. The economic consequences of this self quarantine will impact the 70 percent of the American GNP that is directly from all consumer spending. This will guarantee a recession/depression at the least.

The government, the media et all will not protect you. It is somewhat of a Darwinian mode here with regard to Ebola. Those fools who trust the government, and act like nothing is wrong, will continue to go to public places with no concern. As they die off, the remaining people will never trust the government and media again. This is what happened after the Black Death in 1348. Ebola is going to shatter the authority of the powers that be. They will seen as liars, WHO GOT PEOPLE KILLED.

They will seen as liars, WHO GOT PEOPLE KILLED, and I suspect that they will be hunted down like the French hunted down those that collaborated with the Nazis. It will get ugly !!!
 

DHR43

Since 2001
"Ebola unstoppable without total quarantine..."

Oh, the drama. Really? REALLY?

Unstoppable? No hope without a total quarantine? Ebola CANNOT be stopped without that? Really?

How 'bout strong immune systems? THAT would stop it and quick.

Too much drama.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
They could stop passenger flights and institute a military air drop of supplies and aid. I remember hearing about something similar that worked in Berlin. I do not want to see our military in harm's way but with an air drop they could deliver needed humanitarian supplies without direct contact.

How 'bout strong immune systems? THAT would stop it and quick.
I have been watching some of the footage. Big strong healthy looking young men collapsing. This thing in dangerous. It may be even more dangerous to people outside the areas of traditional infection. The rest of us have never been exposed to it. I wonder if there might be some level of immunity in the communities which suffered prior out brakes?
 

pete5555

Membership Revoked
in a slightly different aspect, i wonder if ebola does spread how this will affect the christmas shopping season which should begin in about a month what will happen to the economy
 

rummer

Veteran Member
"Ebola unstoppable without total quarantine..."

Oh, the drama. Really? REALLY?

Unstoppable? No hope without a total quarantine? Ebola CANNOT be stopped without that? Really?

How 'bout strong immune systems? THAT would stop it and quick.

Too much drama.

It's a strong immune system that will cause a cytokine storm and basically your strong immune system will kill you.



Ebola has a nasty reputation for the way it damages the body. It's rightfully earned.

"At the end stage of the disease, you have small leaks in blood vessels," says Thomas Geisbert, an immunologist at the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston. "You end up with essentially no blood pressure. Your body temperature drops and you go into shock."


But when you look at the nitty-gritty details of an Ebola infection, a surprising fact surfaces: The virus isn't what ends up killing you. It's your own immune system.

"The normal job of the immune system is to eliminate infections," says virologist Christopher Basler, at the Mount Sinai Hospital in New York City. "But when it's activated at extreme levels or it's out of control, it becomes damaging to the host."

The most extreme immune attack is the "cytokine storm." Although many viruses, like bird flu and SARS, can trigger this shock and awe assault, Ebola is probably the best at it. And at the end of an Ebola infection, it's the cytokine storm that kills you, Basler says.

What Are Cytokines?

Immune cells use cytokines to communicate with each other. Cytokines are small molecules released by cells into the blood. And they can trigger a cornucopia of activities. Cytokines can make immune cells rush to the site of infection, gobble up sick cells and even sneak through blood vessel walls. Cytokines can also activate inflammation, which causes damaged tissue to swell, heat up and hurt.
In essence, a cytokine storm is an SOS signal that causes the immune system to launch its entire arsenal of weapons all at once. This last-ditch, kamikaze attack hurts the virus. But it leaves behind tons of collateral damage. Blood vessels take the brunt of it.

"The cytokine storm makes the blood vessel walls more permeable," Basler says. So the arteries, veins and capillaries start to leak blood and plasma.

The storm also triggers a big release of nitric oxide, which thins out the blood and damages vessels further.

All these factors combine together to reduce blood pressure to dangerous levels, Geisbert says. "So you don't die of blood loss, but from something similar to severe septic shock."

So how does Ebola trick the immune system into launching the cytokine storm?


To answer that, we have to back up to the moment when the virus enters the blood. Ebola immediately zeroes in on and infects cells of the immune system, says virologist Gaya Amarasinghe, of Washington University in St. Louis.

One target is dendritic cells. During less dangerous infections, say from a cold, dendritic cells gobble up the virus and then instruct other immune cells to make antibodies tailored specifically to this particular virus.

The antibodies then stick onto the virus' surface and stop it from infecting more cells. This is how we clear out viruses from our blood.

But Ebola is way more sophisticated than a cold. Ebola tiptoes quietly into dendritic cells and essentially shuts off their alarm system. So the immune system doesn't know it should make antibodies to Ebola.

The body is left wide open, with no protection. Then Ebola starts copying itself like crazy, Amarasinghe says. "Multiple viruses can even invade a single cell," he says. "HIV can't even do that."

All hell breaks loose in the blood. The virus grows uncontrollably and infects many organs. Eventually, cells start dying and exploding.

That's when the immune system goes haywire.

"There's lot's of premature cell death and destruction," Amarasinghe says. So you get necrotic tissue. Dying cells release all their contents into the blood. And these signals eventually trigger the "cytokine storm," he says.

"The immune system is doing way more damage than good at this point," Amarasinghe says. In other words, our bodies' response to Ebola is often too too much, too late — and frequently fatal.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/goatsandsoda/2014/08/26/342451672/how-ebola-kills-you-its-not-the-virus
 

ParanoidNot

Veteran Member
"Ebola unstoppable without total quarantine..."

Oh, the drama. Really? REALLY?

Unstoppable? No hope without a total quarantine? Ebola CANNOT be stopped without that? Really?

How 'bout strong immune systems? THAT would stop it and quick.

Too much drama.

Too much drama?

And I quote: "Oh, the drama. Really? REALLY?"

First, to the OP and others in this thread who are taking the Level 4 Biohazard seriously, I apologize for the thread drift.

Second, do you have a useful, insightful or helpful suggestion, or are you just trolling for a conversation?

To the probative (actually not) and insightful (or should that be “inciting”) questions you posed above, how exactly do you propose we fortify our immune systems so we can attain the same wonderful immune system you apparently are relying upon? Do you have any data to demonstrate the superiority of your immune system? Perhaps you have been tongue kissing hemorrhagic victims without consequence? Is USAMRIID aware of your discovery/cure? Can we get it in an enteric-coated tablet, or do we just need an IM injection? Perhaps we merely need hold our mouth right?

Sorry to answer all of your rhetorical questions with Socratic questions, but I am truly curious (ok, not really, just kidding), and I don’t really expect an answer.

I have found over the years that during times of great disquiet, gallows humor is more appropriate than condescending criticism.

Mods, I apologize for my misbehavior. I promise to be nice for the rest of October. I am going to start working on improving both my immune system and my interpersonal skills. I think I will start with a couple of fingers of 18 year old Scotch. If I am going to bleed out sometime in the next year, I don’t want any full bottles of expensive booze to survive me.

Next round is on me Y’all.

Cheers!
 
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