CRISIS Hermit's apocalyptic poll
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LoupGarou
Ancient Fuzzball
Here are my thoughts...
ETA:
As far as the economy here, they passed the bill that is going to allow them to continue using taxes and inflation as much as needed to continue paying for their "bailouts". Billions per day. Don't worry, you may not have voted for it, but you will feel it again and again many times over...
Loup
- Kim-Jong-Mentally-Ill has finally made the "last call from the horizontal phone booth", and is now doing "Lawn Limbo".
- The next in charge in NK now has to prove to his minions that he is even more NUTZ than KJMI was, so he starts an immediate attack on the DMZ, WITH NUKES to open up the access to SK and try to blame either the US, or SK for the nuking. This starts WWIII.V (WWIII is already in progress in the ME).
- Syria, lebanon, and iran all see WWIII.V start up and decide to act against Israel. Russia sees the new opportunity and starts to act against their previous possessions (like we saw earlier this year).
- The US, under a carpload of stress, both financially and with other problems erupts into all sorts of chaos.
ETA:
As far as the economy here, they passed the bill that is going to allow them to continue using taxes and inflation as much as needed to continue paying for their "bailouts". Billions per day. Don't worry, you may not have voted for it, but you will feel it again and again many times over...
Loup
Any time span within the next 20 or so years .... it's more about how bad you think the low point will get, given current events.
Wildweasel
F-4 Phantoms Phorever
It's going to depend on who wins the election and in what manner.
Not because of the difference in economic policies and much as the social policies and the possibilities of political violence and destruction if parts of society disagree with the election outcome.
If the urban masses riot and destroy because Oboma loses in what they see as a stolen election, it's going to be one thing.
If the right wingers start "a revolt to restore the Constitution" because Obama wins in what they see is a stolen election it's another thing.
Either way things get bad, but a prolonged revolutionary warfare in America would do more short-term economic damage than a few weeks of riots and burning.
WW
Not because of the difference in economic policies and much as the social policies and the possibilities of political violence and destruction if parts of society disagree with the election outcome.
If the urban masses riot and destroy because Oboma loses in what they see as a stolen election, it's going to be one thing.
If the right wingers start "a revolt to restore the Constitution" because Obama wins in what they see is a stolen election it's another thing.
Either way things get bad, but a prolonged revolutionary warfare in America would do more short-term economic damage than a few weeks of riots and burning.
WW
bobpick
Inactive
Up to the election it will be less than a depression. After the election and Hussein loses then there will be small scale rioting. Now, 2012 is a whole different story.
Should there be an actual terror event after the election as being discussed then it will be a smidgen worse than 9/12.
Should there be an actual terror event after the election as being discussed then it will be a smidgen worse than 9/12.
Jmurman
Veteran Member
I believe that we are seeing a 'fore-shot' of events to come.
The MSM and the politico in DC will do everything they can to stem this 'burst' so to speak. When the elections are over, we'll see a time of stability. It will be just a matter of time before all hell breaks loose.
This should be a time for the new world leader to take the stage and 'make things right' as the Bible says. When that happens, look for 3 1/2 years of peace and prosperity...and then the end.
The MSM and the politico in DC will do everything they can to stem this 'burst' so to speak. When the elections are over, we'll see a time of stability. It will be just a matter of time before all hell breaks loose.
This should be a time for the new world leader to take the stage and 'make things right' as the Bible says. When that happens, look for 3 1/2 years of peace and prosperity...and then the end.
ShakinSouth
Inactive
I'm in the 'other' category.
I believe that this is the end of the church age and this is leading in the end times scenario which will culminate in the return of Christ.
I believe that this is the end of the church age and this is leading in the end times scenario which will culminate in the return of Christ.
I cannot help but laugh listening to the four candidates condemn the taxing and spending plans of their rivals. Kinda like claiming the other guy cannot swim when all are jumping from a hundred foot cliff into a roaring river below.
The fiscal deficit will hit ONE TRILLION this year and maybe without the SS and Iraqistan accounting trickeries. The National Debt will increase to 15 Trillion in two years no matter who is president. The tax policies of the Obiden or McPalin will not put dent in that fact. Any money spent above revenue received will be financed mostly by kindness of strangers who our wall street elite just screwed big time.
There are only two answers that keep the elite in power:
1. Super inflation.
2. World War.
The people at the top have set up the middle class for either or both. This election is about choosing between an authoritarian right or authoritarian left rulers (did I say rulers instead of leaders?).
The fiscal deficit will hit ONE TRILLION this year and maybe without the SS and Iraqistan accounting trickeries. The National Debt will increase to 15 Trillion in two years no matter who is president. The tax policies of the Obiden or McPalin will not put dent in that fact. Any money spent above revenue received will be financed mostly by kindness of strangers who our wall street elite just screwed big time.
There are only two answers that keep the elite in power:
1. Super inflation.
2. World War.
The people at the top have set up the middle class for either or both. This election is about choosing between an authoritarian right or authoritarian left rulers (did I say rulers instead of leaders?).
Binkerthebear
Veteran Member
Voted "'apocalypse". My gut instinct, which I hope is (and is usually) wrong, says that this is a snowball going downhill and gathering momentum. Once one problem gets the quick fix, ten more will emerge. Hopefully, we've dodged the current bullet and are now simply setting up for the next debacle maybe a few years out now. I don't see how anyone can argue that this is not similar to Rome's decline. Look around ! Whoa, dudes. Very scary stuff for those of us who deal with reality (and normalcy) and not the Manhattan /Malibu cocktail circuit.
Ben Sunday
Deceased
Philosohphically, I am on the Severe Recessaion-Mild Depression ledge. However, I have great concerns about race based violence or an Obama quasi dictatorship.
The economy is not going to improve anytime soon, imho.
Overall, I'm moderately gloomy, worried, and vigilant.
The economy is not going to improve anytime soon, imho.
Overall, I'm moderately gloomy, worried, and vigilant.
momof23goats
Deceased
1. people will be poor,
2. world war.
2. world war.
While I voted for recession/depression, I really don't know. I've never seen a recession where the Pres and the Fed and all the biggest world leaders were getting all excited about the matter.
I was watching when Black Monday happened in 1987, and experienced the stagflation or whatever it was called around the Carter years ... the high unemployment, etc. I don't remember anything like the frantic attempt of world leaders to assure the public that everything was going to be all right, while at the same time admitting that things could get very bad in the next few years, that the bailouts would take a long time to work.
I think they know a thing or two that the general public doesn't. I'm worried that it could get much worse than my vote would indicate!
I was watching when Black Monday happened in 1987, and experienced the stagflation or whatever it was called around the Carter years ... the high unemployment, etc. I don't remember anything like the frantic attempt of world leaders to assure the public that everything was going to be all right, while at the same time admitting that things could get very bad in the next few years, that the bailouts would take a long time to work.
I think they know a thing or two that the general public doesn't. I'm worried that it could get much worse than my vote would indicate!
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
I think regarding the human suffering that will accompany this economic downturn that "the powers that be" will manage a full court press to, like the IRAQ WAR, KEEP THE BODY BAGS FROM GOING DOWN MAIN STREET, Keep the suffering a "private, not for public knowledge. They don't want to chill "consumer confidence" or lose public perception of a strong, secure nation, with wise leaders with too much news coverage of "those people", the growing unemployed, and "their" problems. I strongly expect they will attempt to ISOLATE those suffering economically as if they are no longer members of the public or even citizens, but "Those poor suffering people" who need "our"(a different group's) help. They will half heartedly encourage the employed to have a sense of "concern" for "those" who are (economic FAILURES) suffering "repercussions" of a "slowed growth economy". BUT DON'T WORRY, "THEIR" PROBLEMS WON'T AFFECT YOU!
breezyhill
Veteran Member
i voted for surpassing the first GD, and it will be worldwide. this is just the beginning.
here's an easy-to-understand explanation, minus all the technical economic mumbo-jumbo...
* when all the economies of the world are tooling along, living on credit, we citizens of the world are the oil that makes this machine run. we need to buy, therefore we exist for a purpose.
* when the ponzi scheme falls; i.e., the credit locks up and stops and the housing balloon bursts and billions around the world are thrown out of work, what use are the masses? we are then just useless eaters.
breezyhill
here's an easy-to-understand explanation, minus all the technical economic mumbo-jumbo...
* when all the economies of the world are tooling along, living on credit, we citizens of the world are the oil that makes this machine run. we need to buy, therefore we exist for a purpose.
* when the ponzi scheme falls; i.e., the credit locks up and stops and the housing balloon bursts and billions around the world are thrown out of work, what use are the masses? we are then just useless eaters.
breezyhill
jed turtle
a brother in the Lord
voted: "Surpassing Great Depression, more than half unemployed, some starvation "
imho, this is a planned event. next item on the agenda, once all the bricks fall in place: order out of chaos.
all following both man's plan and also Biblical prophecy.
man's plans will ultimately fail, however.
you can't serve both God and Mammon.
imho, this is a planned event. next item on the agenda, once all the bricks fall in place: order out of chaos.
all following both man's plan and also Biblical prophecy.
man's plans will ultimately fail, however.
you can't serve both God and Mammon.
MtnGal
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I had a dream, not a vision, just a dream - at least I hope it was only a dream.
I saw Obama as POTUS, pushing us deeply into the UN. In the end, when the UN had way too much control of not only the US but all nations, Obama becomes world leader as head of the UN.
I voted for worse than the Great Depression.
I saw Obama as POTUS, pushing us deeply into the UN. In the end, when the UN had way too much control of not only the US but all nations, Obama becomes world leader as head of the UN.
I voted for worse than the Great Depression.
Sugaree
Inactive
amen brother.
Worrier King
Deceased
Unlike before, the world is overpopulated and running out of resources, or those resources have been terribly mismanaged and exploited.
Human species survival should have been a major goal, and the world economic system should of ran on assets and peace rather than debt and war.
Western culture has instituted layers of artificial systems that are in defiance of Natural Law. It's people are near totally dependent on government. Islam turns westward as they can exploit the West better than they could a Nationalistic China and Russia, both which comprise a significant amount of world land mass.
Globalist philosophy holds that a ideal world population is 500 million. The globalists have started making their economic move. The current breakdown of the world economy demonstrates some of the inherent flaws of globalist idealism. In a pillaged and looted U.S., that hopefully creates a chance to revive ideals of sovereign individual and state rights....although indoctrinated dem/repub partisans work against such ideas and minimize the chances of sovereign idealism from reviving.
Human species survival should have been a major goal, and the world economic system should of ran on assets and peace rather than debt and war.
Western culture has instituted layers of artificial systems that are in defiance of Natural Law. It's people are near totally dependent on government. Islam turns westward as they can exploit the West better than they could a Nationalistic China and Russia, both which comprise a significant amount of world land mass.
Globalist philosophy holds that a ideal world population is 500 million. The globalists have started making their economic move. The current breakdown of the world economy demonstrates some of the inherent flaws of globalist idealism. In a pillaged and looted U.S., that hopefully creates a chance to revive ideals of sovereign individual and state rights....although indoctrinated dem/repub partisans work against such ideas and minimize the chances of sovereign idealism from reviving.
