CORONA Horowitz: Whistleblowers share DOD medical data that blows vaccine safety debate wide open

TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
This is why losing my career over the vax was an easy decision for me. But this is heartbreaking, and makes me angry. These are my Airmen, that I supervise and take care of as an officer. Jesus half of them are kids (my newest one was born in 2003). These were my soldiers I took to war as an NCO. They were my friends, and I considered them at one time family.

BLUF:
  • Cancers up 300%
  • Neurological problems up 1000%
  • Miscarriages up 300%
  • myocardial infarction –269% increase
  • Bell’s palsy – 291% increase
  • congenital malformations (for children of military personnel) – 156% increase
  • female infertility – 471% increase
  • pulmonary embolisms – 467% increase

Horowitz: Whistleblowers share DOD medical data that blows vaccine safety debate wide open
OP-ED
DANIEL HOROWITZ
January 26, 2022

Data, transparency, and surveillance. That is what has been missing from the greatest experiment on humans of all time throughout this pandemic. Now, military medical whistleblowers have come forward with what they claim is perhaps the most accurate and revealing data set on vaccine safety one could possibly find.

The pro-pharma politicians and media claim the CDC’s pharmacosurveillance tool “VAERS” is not good enough to trigger investigations into the shots because anyone can supposedly submit a vaccine adverse event entry. Thus, all the concerning safety signals from VAERS are being ignored, even though that system was put in place as a consolation to the public for absolving vaccine manufacturers of liability. Well, now some military whistleblowers are coming forward to present data that, if verified, would signal extremely disturbing safety concerns about the vaccine that make the VAERS data look like child’s play.

On Monday, during Sen. Ron Johnson’s five-hour hearing on a “COVID-19: Second Opinion,” Ohio attorney Thomas Renz, who has been representing clients suing the vaccine mandates, presented DOD medical billing data from the Defense Medical Epidemiology Database (DMED) that paints a shockingly disturbing picture of the health of our service members in 2021.

Attorney Thomas Renz reveals what multiple DoD whistleblowers have provided on the safety signals they are seeing \n\nThese numbers are mind blowing! \n\n@SenRonJohnsonpic.twitter.com/gs4fhwF1Po
— Chief Nerd (@Chief Nerd) 1643052460

According to the military, DMED is the Armed Forces Health Surveillance Branch’s (AFHSB) “web-based tool to remotely query de-identified active component personnel and medical event data contained within the Defense Medical Surveillance System (DMSS).” In other words, it contains every ICD medical billing code for any medical diagnosis in the military submitted for medical insurance billing during any given period of time. Three military doctors have presented queried data to Renz that shows a shocking and sudden spike in nearly every ICD code for common vaccine injuries in 2021.





In a declaration under penalty of perjury that Renz plans to use in federal court, Drs. Samuel Sigoloff, Peter Chambers, and Theresa Long — three military doctors — revealed that there has been a 300% increase in DMED codes registered for miscarriages in the military in 2021 over the five-year average. The five-year average was 1,499 codes for miscarriages per year. During the first 10 months of 2021, it was 4,182. As Renz explained to me in an interview with TheBlaze, these doctors queried the numbers for hundreds of codes from 2016 through 2020 to establish a baseline five-year average. These codes were generally for ailments and injuries that medical literature has established as being potential adverse effects of the vaccines.

Renz told me the numbers tended to be remarkably similar in all those preceding years, including in 2020, which was the first year of the pandemic but before the vaccines were distributed. But then in 2021, the numbers skyrocketed, and the 2021 data doesn’t even include the months of November and December. For example, some public health officials speculate that COVID itself places women at higher risk for miscarriages. But the number of miscarriage codes recorded in 2020 was actually slightly below the five-year average (1,477). However, they were not drastically below the average on any one category in a way that one can suggest it reflects lockdown-related decreases in doctor’s visits, which somehow led to an increase in 2021 diagnoses.

The database has all the ICD codes for both military hospital visits and ambulatory visits. The data presented by Renz so far is all from the query of ambulatory diagnosis data.

Aside from the spike in miscarriage diagnoses (ICD code O03 for spontaneous abortions), there was an almost 300% increase in cancer diagnoses (from a five-year average of 38,700 per year to 114,645 in the first 11 months of 2021). There was also a 1,000% increase in diagnosis codes for neurological issues, which increased from a baseline average of 82,000 to 863,000!

Some other numbers he did not mention at the hearing but gave to me in the interview are the following:

  • myocardial infarction –269% increase
  • Bell’s palsy – 291% increase
  • congenital malformations (for children of military personnel) – 156% increase
  • female infertility – 471% increase
  • pulmonary embolisms – 467% increase
All these numbers are among the ambulatory visits because those are where the vast number of diagnoses in the military occur. However, Renz did say the increases were indicated in the hospitalized patients as well. I have seen one of the sworn declarations from one of the military doctors, and it states as follows, “It is my professional opinion that the major increases incidences of the above discussed instances of miscarriages, cancers, and disease were due to COVID-19 ‘vaccinations.'"

According to Renz, it was the actual clinical experience of the three named doctors and several unnamed doctors that led them to investigate DMED, and their discoveries reflected their experience treating patients with ailments extremely unusual to healthy, young soldiers since the rollout of the vaccines.

I have spoken to one of the whistleblowers who attests to being gravely concerned with seeing young soldiers with sudden metastatic cancers, auto-immune diseases, and heart and circulatory disorders that have caused many soldiers to drop out of various training programs. “These doctors were motivated to explore DMED data due to the numbers of case increases they were seeing empirically,” said the whistleblower, who served in the military for many years. “Some physicians throughout the force (all branches) have been intimidated by commands not to perform the full spectrum of testing and adhere to the regulations, which implicitly direct full workups for EUA vaccination adverse reactions. It will require other military physicians to step forward and share experiences to fully ascertain the enormity of these allegations and engender an investigation to the fullest extent.”

Renz claims he has a video with two witnesses showing the entire process of downloading this data from the database and is prepared to present it in court. He also told me that this is just “the tip of the iceberg,” as the codes have increased exponentially in numerous other diagnosis categories. Renz said his spreadsheet, which includes over 100 medical diagnosis categories, was shared with Senator Johnson and his staff before the Monday hearing.

It’s important to note that these numbers do not represent the number of individual people diagnosed with various ailments, but number of diagnoses codes used in totality at a given time. For example, someone who has a stroke is obviously going to rack up numerous neurological ICD codes over the course of a year with multiple ambulatory and hospital visits. However, the apples-to-apples comparison from the previous five years clearly shows an unmistakable spike in ailments.

If these numbers are verified in the upcoming court cases, then absent some massive military insurance fraud or bizarre glitch in the system, it potentially paints a shocking picture of vaccine safety concerns that would indicate that not only were the VAERS safety signals something that should immediately have been followed up on, but they are plagued by woeful underreporting. The military is a defined, finite, and closely controlled and monitored population. They are also overwhelmingly young and healthy. If allegations of neurological, cardio, and cancer concerns surrounding the vaccines are indeed true, the military would be the most revealing place to discover it, and their data is the most reliable and undisputable.

DMED is quite literally an epidemiological surveillance program designed for the express purpose of detecting surges in illness and injury to make sure the military is combat-ready. It’s about national security even more than public health. Why would the military not have blown the whistle and warned the CDC right away about this data? On the military health system website, the Armed Forces Health Surveillance Division (AFHSD) is described as “the central epidemiologic resource for the U.S. Armed Forces, conducting medical surveillance to protect those who serve our nation in uniform and allies who are critical to our national security interests.”

How could the blaring and glaring surveillance signals of a lifetime be ignored by the Defense Health Agency (DHA), and how was this not conveyed to the general public? The question is why the military public health analysts have not been communicating with military doctors about the shocking spikes in diagnoses this year and why they have not put out any analysis explaining it.

For his part, Sen. Ron Johnson said at the Monday hearing that he put DOD on notice that it better not delete any of the data. “The Department of Defense, the Biden administration is on notice they must preserve these records and this must be investigated,” said Johnson. Renz testified at the hearing that some of the myocarditis data was slid backwards since the doctors originally downloaded it last year.

Even if somehow these earth-shattering increases have nothing to do with the vaccines, isn’t it important that our government investigate what appears to be a catastrophic decline in the health of our active-duty fighting force? After all, the DMED data was designed for this very purpose. “A person can do a research paper just on this data alone,” said one of the whistleblowers I spoke to. “It was designed for this very purpose. The amount of data points you could query is nearly unlimited.”

The bottom line according to Renz is that the onus of proof is on the government, not on the military personnel and citizens being forced to take the shots. If the manufacturers are exempt from liability for government coercion to use their product, and the only pharmacological safety data we have is completely ignored, then where is the recourse of the people to redress safety concerns? In the opinion of the Ohio attorney, if the shots are safe and effective, then the Pentagon should have no problem explaining the source of these gargantuan increases in instances of numerous illnesses. Transparency is the most potent cure of a pandemic of secrecy.

 

TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Put Fauci and all the rest ( including the "fact checkers) in a room with all the families of these folks and lock the door.
I could think of no better justice.

What about the entire chain of enforcement—military, civilian and political, right down to the bottom end grunt who was/were “just doing their jobs” in forcing school kids to mask or employees to vax or Mom and Pop to close up shop while Walmart made billions off the scam........to barely scratch the tip of the iceberg.

What shall we do with those who aided and abetted in this massive treasonous offense ?

Be creative.....I trust your judgment.



:popcorn3:
 

medic38572

TB Fanatic
Breaking: The UK government admits that vaccines have damaged the natural immune system of those who have been double-vaccinated. The UK government has admitted that once you have been double-vaccinated, you will never again be able to acquire full natural immunity to Covid variants - or possibly any other virus. So let's watch the "real" pandemic begin now! In its Week 42 "COVID-19 Vaccine Surveillance Report", the UK Department of Health admits on page 23 that "N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who become infected after two doses of vaccination". It goes on to say that this drop in antibodies is essentially permanent. What does this mean? We know that vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission of the virus (indeed, the report elsewhere shows that vaccinated adults are now much more likely to be infected than unvaccinated ones). The British now find that the vaccine interferes with the body's ability to make antibodies after infection not only against the spike protein but also against other parts of the virus. In particular, vaccinated people do not appear to form antibodies against the nucleocapsid protein, the envelope of the virus, which is a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people. In the long term, the vaccinated are far more susceptible to any mutations in the spike protein, even if they have already been infected and cured once or more. The unvaccinated, on the other hand, will gain lasting, if not permanent, immunity to all strains of the alleged virus after being naturally infected with it even once.

Source:https://assets.publishing.service.g...27511/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-42.pdf

The first insurance companies are backing down because a huge wave of claims is coming their way. Anthony Fauci confirms that the PCR test cannot detect live viruses. Anthony Fauci confirms that neither the antigen test nor the PCR test can tell us whether someone is contagious or not!!! This invalidates all the foundations of the so-called pandemic. The PCR test was the only indication of a pandemic. Without PCR-TEST no pandemic For all the press workers, doctors, lawyers, prosecutors etc. THIS is the final key, the ultimate proof that the measures must all be lifted immediately!
 

Marie

Veteran Member
What about the entire chain of enforcement—military, civilian and political, right down to the bottom end grunt who was/were “just doing their jobs” in forcing school kids to mask or employees to vax or Mom and Pop to close up shop while Walmart made billions off the scam........to barely scratch the tip of the iceberg.

What shall we do with those who aided and abetted in this massive treasonous offense ?

Be creative.....I trust your judgment.



:popcorn3:
Too many to isolate. Give em to God!
 

Samuel Adams

Has No Life - Lives on TB
For all the press workers, doctors, lawyers, prosecutors etc. THIS is the final key, the ultimate proof that the measures must all be lifted immediately!

Sure.....lift the measures.

Then let the hangings begin.....starting at the top, of course, and by the time we get “to the bottom”, the last rung or two will have disappeared of their own volition, never to be seen or to harm mankind through petty tyrannical ambition, again.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The bio-weapon is working perfectly as designed- much more to come.

As I try to recreate the plans of the evil bastards who planned the jab, here are some guesses.

1. Its development was finished in China

2. The virus was not meant to be super lethal: mostly elderly (whose immune system had naturally declined with age), plus those with multiple comorbities (2 or more). If super deadly and fast spreading, it would have burnt itself out.
It also attacked the reproductive system, especially of women.

It took 2 to 3 years to reach maximum effectiveness, thereby blocking a connection with a prior jab. Not everyone dies of the same cause
What it wás the perfect agent to scare the public, aided by the captive media.

Mandatory wearing of masks became a sign of submission to the state. Lockdowns destroyed small businesses, which was a goal of the Great Reset.

3. The real killing agent was the "vaccine" itself.
People were tricked and pressured to take the jab.
Not all jabs were the same. A few were simply saline. This way any tell tale injuries from the jab could be denied.

4. The "vaccine" works in a couple different ways.

5. It was always a contest between jabbing as many people as possible and the Ill effects becoming known.

Gates wants a drastic drop on world population.
 
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db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
Nothing will come from any of this, except maybe blaming President Trump for it all, you know since it started on the last days of his watch. Just ask Piglosi she said it was all lies by trump.
Sadly, you have a valid point. The Blame Game! When all of this becomes so painfully obvious that it is a murderous disaster, the finger pointing will begin and led by the same people that helped propagandize it - the gov via the MSM. A standard narrative will be created and pushed and the fumb ducking sheep will buy it. Yes, the same bunch slowly dying off that were told by the MSM just how good the vax is will still believe everything the MSM says.

There's no way they can blame Trump, for they stole the election away from him and the poison program was pushed with the Bai Den administration. That regime has been in full control since Jan 6th of last year. Regardless, Trump's Warp Speed operation will take the hit and he will be labeled the biggest mass murderer since Hitler. (actually Stalin and Mao topped Hitler, but they'd never admit the commie's outdid a Nazi)
 

TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
Sadly, you have a valid point. The Blame Game! When all of this becomes so painfully obvious that it is a murderous disaster, the finger pointing will begin and led by the same people that helped propagandize it - the gov via the MSM. A standard narrative will be created and pushed and the fumb ducking sheep will buy it. Yes, the same bunch slowly dying off that were told by the MSM just how good the vax is will still believe everything the MSM says.

There's no way they can blame Trump, for they stole the election away from him and the poison program was pushed with the Bai Den administration. That regime has been in full control since Jan 6th of last year. Regardless, Trump's Warp Speed operation will take the hit and he will be labeled the biggest mass murderer since Hitler. (actually Stalin and Mao topped Hitler, but they'd never admit the commie's outdid a Nazi)

They could try. The difficult thing is going to be that the Dems initiated the mandates. Now the people that vaxxed, boosted, and then lied to get more vax and booster? Sure, theyll believe that it was Trump. Now the people who were forced to get the vax because SecDef Austin said to or lose your career? Or because Biden signed the executive order? Or because their boss made them?

No, those who were coerced to take the vax through threats are not going to but that it was Trumps fault, and that narrative will get harder to sell when it also goes mainstream that theyve had this data since Feb 2021.

IMO, we see Brandon take the blame for the vax mandates and subsequent fallout, in addition to the economic collapse, the war, etc. He is the fall guy anyway. Then he's done away with and the "new president" steps up to "fix the mess".

Unfortunately, I feel that this is all part of the plan (vax mandate blowback included).
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
_______________
What about the entire chain of enforcement—military, civilian and political, right down to the bottom end grunt who was/were “just doing their jobs” in forcing school kids to mask or employees to vax or Mom and Pop to close up shop while Walmart made billions off the scam........to barely scratch the tip of the iceberg.

What shall we do with those who aided and abetted in this massive treasonous offense ?

Be creative.....I trust your judgment.



:popcorn3:

It will be like Germany after the war. Many if not most will claim they were just following orders or were kept ignorant of what was really going on. But the reality is, if you aren't fighting against it, you are fighting for it ... whatever "it" might be.
 

db cooper

Resident Secret Squirrel
They could try. The difficult thing is going to be that the Dems initiated the mandates. Now the people that vaxxed, boosted, and then lied to get more vax and booster? Sure, theyll believe that it was Trump. Now the people who were forced to get the vax because SecDef Austin said to or lose your career? Or because Biden signed the executive order? Or because their boss made them?

No, those who were coerced to take the vax through threats are not going to but that it was Trumps fault, and that narrative will get harder to sell when it also goes mainstream that theyve had this data since Feb 2021.

IMO, we see Brandon take the blame for the vax mandates and subsequent fallout, in addition to the economic collapse, the war, etc. He is the fall guy anyway. Then he's done away with and the "new president" steps up to "fix the mess".

Unfortunately, I feel that this is all part of the plan (vax mandate blowback included).
And your opinion could very well be correct.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
What I read here is that 10's of 1000's military personnel were put out of action by vaccine at the same time the Pentagon system was forcing people out for non-vaccine. And it took a whistle blower to bring this to the attention of the populace because the system never noticed?

Interesting.
 

bassgirl

Veteran Member
Trump was a business man, who managed to be president. He is not a MD, nor virologist. Any info he was given on this came from people who did understand it. He probably believed what they told him. (remember the virus patent was already filed) and went with it.

What else was he going to do? I realize that blame always goes to who is leader, so he will get some. But I doubt it was intentional.

They had this planned for awhile, they just used him to get it rolling and they have a patsy now. It wasn’t us it was him! As they point fingers. And he will say it wasn’t me it was ll these advisors around me.
we would of made the same decision if our advisors advised us on something we know little about.

But they will blame him. All he did was roll it out then lost office. All the mandates and giving to pregnant women and kids…that’s on Biden.
 

psychgirl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Trump was a business man, who managed to be president. He is not a MD, nor virologist. Any info he was given on this came from people who did understand it. He probably believed what they told him. (remember the virus patent was already filed) and went with it.

What else was he going to do? I realize that blame always goes to who is leader, so he will get some. But I doubt it was intentional.

They had this planned for awhile, they just used him to get it rolling and they have a patsy now. It wasn’t us it was him! As they point fingers. And he will say it wasn’t me it was ll these advisors around me.
we would of made the same decision if our advisors advised us on something we know little about.

But they will blame him. All he did was roll it out then lost office. All the mandates and giving to pregnant women and kids…that’s on Biden.
^^^
+100
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
Trump was a business man, who managed to be president. He is not a MD, nor virologist. Any info he was given on this came from people who did understand it. He probably believed what they told him. (remember the virus patent was already filed) and went with it.

What else was he going to do? I realize that blame always goes to who is leader, so he will get some. But I doubt it was intentional.

They had this planned for awhile, they just used him to get it rolling and they have a patsy now. It wasn’t us it was him! As they point fingers. And he will say it wasn’t me it was ll these advisors around me.
we would of made the same decision if our advisors advised us on something we know little about.

But they will blame him. All he did was roll it out then lost office. All the mandates and giving to pregnant women and kids…that’s on Biden.
It is too bad that Trump couldn't tell them "I am scared crapless of needles. I want a pill and I want it right now!!: History would have been different and just maybe a lot better.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Trump was a business man, who managed to be president. He is not a MD, nor virologist. Any info he was given on this came from people who did understand it. He probably believed what they told him. (remember the virus patent was already filed) and went with it.

What else was he going to do? I realize that blame always goes to who is leader, so he will get some. But I doubt it was intentional.

They had this planned for awhile, they just used him to get it rolling and they have a patsy now. It wasn’t us it was him! As they point fingers. And he will say it wasn’t me it was ll these advisors around me.
we would of made the same decision if our advisors advised us on something we know little about.

But they will blame him. All he did was roll it out then lost office. All the mandates and giving to pregnant women and kids…that’s on Biden.

Perhaps yes and perhaps no. None of us will know if he was duped or if he is more sly and cunning than we give him credit for. Assuming your assumption is correct, he has now been out of office for a year and as a man that aspires to run again and has advisers and I believe is still eligible to receive classified briefings and he has had plenty of time to be educated and learn the truth on this as it would factor in the run up to the next election cycle.

He has chosen not to be silent on the issue but has doubled down on the vaccines are good, the vaccines are the result of ‘operation warp speed’ which he started and everyone should be vaccinated although not mandated. He has had opportunities to disown this but he doesn’t. Like it or not he now owns this at least through Jan 20, 2021.
 

Toosh

Veteran Member
In my mind the highest guilt falls on big pharma. I expect to see a lot of lawsuits come together into class action suits against each. I don't see their emergency use authorization protection being upheld when they had this information and knowingly pushed it on on us. Some government people may have been in on the scam for personal profit but I suspect others were following along because they didn't know what else to do.

The ones that were in on it should be tried for crimes against humanity as they did in Germany. I would not be surprised to see some suicides.

My fear is what the people will do when they learn the truth. Lynchings and hangings may come back into fashion.

My fear is that people have lost so much faith in the medical system and their healthcare providers. How do we rebuilt that trust? How do you convince people that some vaccines ARE good and necessary. How do you return healthcare decisions to the physician/patient and not the (choose one or two) insurance/hospital/WHO/CDC/FDA bureaucracies.
 

TFergeson

Non Solum Simul Stare
What I read here is that 10's of 1000's military personnel were put out of action by vaccine at the same time the Pentagon system was forcing people out for non-vaccine. And it took a whistle blower to bring this to the attention of the populace because the system never noticed?

Interesting.

Unfortunately it is far worse than that. The system has full knowledge of this data, and is still pushing the vax.

The DoD for instance, I am trying to find the article, but I read this morning that it appears data in the military data base is now being manipulated since the whistleblower. Apparently there was a data pull several months ago and a similar pull recently and the numbers in the recent pull were reduced overall. And they are still pushing the vax, and kicking out those that refuse.

This is intentional, with full knowledge. And therefore full culpability
 
Trump was a business man, who managed to be president. He is not a MD, nor virologist. Any info he was given on this came from people who did understand it. He probably believed what they told him. (remember the virus patent was already filed) and went with it.

Adding that former Trump COVID adviser Dr. Scott Atlas came onboard late in the Trump administration.

Read below what Wikipedia currently has to say about Dr. Atlas.


Atlas was selected by President Donald Trump in August 2020 to serve as an advisor on the White House Coronavirus Task Force.[4] In that role, Atlas at times spread misinformation about COVID-19, such as theories that face masks and social distancing were not effective in slowing the spread of the coronavirus.[5][6] His statements and influence on policies caused controversy within the task force.[7][8][9] Contrary to the recommendations of most of the scientific community,[10] Atlas recommended establishing herd immunity by allowing or encouraging low-risk people to get COVID-19 while attempting to protect more vulnerable people.[11][12] He advocated that states should not engage in COVID-19 testing of virus-exposed but asymptomatic individuals,[13] called for faster reopening of schools and businesses,[14][15][16] and encouraged residents to resist or "rise up" against state restrictions adopted to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.[17] Atlas resigned from his position in the White House on November 30, 2020.[18]

Compare what Wikipedia is currently saying about Dr. Atlas' "controversial/disruptive" beliefs about COVID, and what we know, today.

What else was he going to do? I realize that blame always goes to who is leader, so he will get some. But I doubt it was intentional.

Recall that Dr. Atlas came into the Team Trump sphere later in the COVID situation. He was one of few voices of scientific reason advising Team Trump, and was skewered/castigated for his stance - both by others advising Team Trump on all things COVID, as well as "in the court of public opinion."


intothegoodnight
 

Bogey

“Where liberty dwells, there is my country.”
My fear is what the people will do when they learn the truth. Lynchings and hangings may come back into fashion.

I would prefer to see some time on the rack, for starters. Then a good old fashioned "draw and quarter" session is also to my liking.

Hell, there might even be a movie producer willing to finance a mini-series!

I can see it now ... " A must see blockbuster! Don't miss it! A story of epic proportions! "A Reckoning". Coming soon!

I would watch the first run and the re-runs for years to come.
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
Breaking: The UK government admits that vaccines have damaged the natural immune system of those who have been double-vaccinated. The UK government has admitted that once you have been double-vaccinated, you will never again be able to acquire full natural immunity to Covid variants - or possibly any other virus. So let's watch the "real" pandemic begin now! In its Week 42 "COVID-19 Vaccine Surveillance Report", the UK Department of Health admits on page 23 that "N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who become infected after two doses of vaccination". It goes on to say that this drop in antibodies is essentially permanent. What does this mean? We know that vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission of the virus (indeed, the report elsewhere shows that vaccinated adults are now much more likely to be infected than unvaccinated ones). The British now find that the vaccine interferes with the body's ability to make antibodies after infection not only against the spike protein but also against other parts of the virus. In particular, vaccinated people do not appear to form antibodies against the nucleocapsid protein, the envelope of the virus, which is a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people. In the long term, the vaccinated are far more susceptible to any mutations in the spike protein, even if they have already been infected and cured once or more. The unvaccinated, on the other hand, will gain lasting, if not permanent, immunity to all strains of the alleged virus after being naturally infected with it even once.

Source:https://assets.publishing.service.g...27511/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-42.pdf

The first insurance companies are backing down because a huge wave of claims is coming their way. Anthony Fauci confirms that the PCR test cannot detect live viruses. Anthony Fauci confirms that neither the antigen test nor the PCR test can tell us whether someone is contagious or not!!! This invalidates all the foundations of the so-called pandemic. The PCR test was the only indication of a pandemic. Without PCR-TEST no pandemic For all the press workers, doctors, lawyers, prosecutors etc. THIS is the final key, the ultimate proof that the measures must all be lifted immediately!

There were many doctors and virologists that warned of this before the vaccines came out. I read and watched videos of them saying, the vaccine is variant specific, that, if you took it and already had covid, you would lose the natural immunity to all variants and only be “protected” to that specific variant the jab was created for. Hence all the boosters. We all have witnessed how much they’ve pushed the jab on people with natural immunity. The evil goes so deep on this.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
There were many doctors and virologists that warned of this before the vaccines came out. I read and watched videos of them saying, the vaccine is variant specific, that, if you took it and already had covid, you would lose the natural immunity to all variants and only be “protected” to that specific variant the jab was created for. Hence all the boosters. We all have witnessed how much they’ve pushed the jab on people with natural immunity. The evil goes so deep on this.
The immune response doesn't work that way. The immune system has a remarkable capability to identify and deal with any new threat--prior sensitization from other variants doesn't really matter. Its the exact same as is for influenza for example.
 

Crusty Echo 7

Veteran Member
More details


Rumble — Information that recently came to light during a senate hearing by Senator Ron Johnson. The hearing involved the testimony of numerous doctors, including military physicians, and whistleblower data presented by attorney Tom Renz. Links below -
Renz Law
https://renz-law.com/wp-content/uploads/DOD-Doc.pdf
Senate hearing
View: https://youtu.be/9jMONZMuS2U
 

Sammy55

Veteran Member
What I think they are hoping for is that now that the REAL numbers and TRUTH is coming out, that a new crisis will come up and the covid issue will fade away from people's lives and thoughts, taking the evil that has been done by it, too. But there has been so much damage from this covid sh*t - to the economy, to the health of those who took the clot shots, to the education of children and college age, to the bitter divisions between families and friends and communities. These damages will probably never be overcome, at least in this lifetime! So, the fading away won't happen. And if the real truth and numbers do come out into public knowledge, there is going to have to be a reckoning.

UNLESS TPTB find another even worse crisis to overcome this one. But therein lies the problem. A new, worse crisis could unite the people together, and if that happens, the people could unite against TPTB. After all, TPTB were the ones who created the covid crisis, they were the ones who managed it and milked it, and they were the ones who pushed the divisions among people.

I just hope that John and Jane Q Public find the truth, embrace it, and remember it when the next manufactured crisis comes up.
 

Techwreck

Veteran Member
The immune response doesn't work that way. The immune system has a remarkable capability to identify and deal with any new threat--prior sensitization from other variants doesn't really matter. Its the exact same as is for influenza for example.

Is the immune system's capability the same after being modified by the mRNa vaccine?

Tricking the immune system into producing the very spike proteins that everyone is trying to avoid seems like it might have effects.

Not a scientist or Dr., but reprogramming generally introduces changes of behavior.
 

rondaben

Veteran Member
Is the immune system's capability the same after being modified by the mRNa vaccine?

Tricking the immune system into producing the very spike proteins that everyone is trying to avoid seems like it might have effects.

Not a scientist or Dr., but reprogramming generally introduces changes of behavior.
The immune system isn't changed by the mRNA vaccine. It doesn't produce spike protein. That's not how it works at all.
 

forpetesake

Senior Member
The immune system isn't changed by the mRNA vaccine. It doesn't produce spike protein. That's not how it works at all.
No, the immune system cells do not produce spike protein, just all other random cells that have the misfortune of coming into contact with the mRNA. And we do not yet know if the mRNA vaccines alter the immune system, but there is research suggesting that it reprograms the innate immune response.
 
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