EBOLA Kaci Hickox says ‘abundance of politics’ behind Ebola quarantines

Wise Owl

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Kaci Hickox says ‘abundance of politics’ behind Ebola quarantines




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Kaci Hickox (left) is joined by her boyfriend, Ted Wilbur, to speak with the media outside of their home in Fort Kent in this October 2014 file photo.
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Posted Nov. 02, 2014, at 1:55 p.m.
Last modified Nov. 02, 2014, at 3:56 p.m.


FORT KENT, Maine — A U.S. nurse who challenged quarantines of health care workers returning from treating West African Ebola patients said on Sunday she thought “an abundance of politics” lurked behind them.


Kaci Hickox has fought a heated public battle over what she considers draconian measures to isolate her for 21 days after her return from Sierra Leone, in a case that highlights the dilemma over how to balance public health needs and personal liberty.


In some U.S. states officials such as New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie have imposed strict quarantines on health workers returning from three Ebola-ravaged West African countries, but the U.S. federal government opposes such measures.
“When Gov. Christie stated that it was an abundance of caution, which is his reasoning for putting health care workers in a sort of quarantine for three weeks, it was really an abundance of politics,” Hickox said in an interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press.”


“And I think all of the scientific and medical and public health community agrees with me on that statement,” she said.


Christie has defended his decision to impose a mandatory three-week quarantine, saying that counting on a voluntary system may or may not work and that protecting health and safety is the government’s job.


The most deadly outbreak of Ebola on record has killed nearly 5,000 people, all but a handful of them in Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone.


Hickox tested negative for Ebola after returning recently from working for Doctors Without Borders in Sierra Leone. But she was placed in an isolation tent in New Jersey when she returned before being allowed to leave for Maine, which also sought to quarantine her at home.


A judge in Maine on Friday rejected that state’s bid to quarantine Hickox, instead imposing limited restrictions on her. The judge said that Hickox must continue direct monitoring of her health, coordinate travel plans with health officials and report any symptoms.


“We know a lot about Ebola,” Hickox told “Meet the Press.” “We know that it’s not transmitted from someone who is asymptomatic, as I am and many other aid workers will be when they return.”


Speaking to NBC from Fort Kent, Hickox indicated she would continue to stay away from crowds in her community, but that her boyfriend, Ted Wilbur, should be allowed to go back to nursing school on Monday.


“I understand that the community has been through a lot in the past week, and I do, you know, apologize to them for that,” she told NBC.


“I will not go into town, into crowded public places. … But on the other hand, you know, my partner is currently in nursing school, and there is definitely zero scientific evidence that says he shouldn’t be allowed to return to his campus on Monday.”


Hickox also has assured the town’s police chief, Tom Pelletier, that she doesn’t plan on going in town and that she doesn’t want to worry townspeople, even though she has not tested positive for the disease, has shown no symptoms and thus cannot transmit it to others.



“They understand the sentiment in the community, and they do not want to be disruptive,” Pelletier said.


“I believe them,” he added. “The governor has made some statements that have not helped us keep civility in the town.”
Gov. Paul LePage expressed disappointment with the judge’s decision Friday, saying the state would nonetheless abide by the law.


“She’s violated every promise she’s made so far, so I can’t trust her,” he said Friday, answering reporters’ questions after a news conference celebrating a business opening in Yarmouth. “I don’t trust her.”


Pelletier has been running food and supplies out to the couple for the past several days. He’s also been collecting gifts and deliveries for them so that he can monitor what goes into the house.



The chief also has been bringing a CDC employee to the residence to check in on Hickox and ensure she isn’t experiencing any symptoms.



The area around the home was significantly quieter Saturday than it has been for the majority of the week. National news network crews started checking out of their hotels Friday night, after the district court judge decided the state’s attempts to restrict Hickox’s movements were excessive and not justifiable because she has shown no symptoms of the disease and thus cannot transmit it to others.



Only one person in the United States is being treated for Ebola, a New York doctor, Craig Spencer, who cared for patients in West Africa. His condition was upgraded by New York City health officials on Saturday to “stable” from “serious but stable” at Bellevue Hospital.


Sen. Rand Paul, R-Kentucky, says the question about the quarantine of Hickox is a tough one.


“The libertarian in me is horrified at the idea of indefinitely detaining, or detaining anyone without a trial,” Paul told CNN’s Candi Crowley in an interview that aired Sunday.


“One of the basic rights we inherited from the English and we got from common law was the right of habeas corpus, to present the body,” Paul said. “If the king were detaining you in the Tower of London, or a governor or anybody who is detaining you, you have to have recourse to a lawyer.


“I think there is a reasonable public concern, saying you shouldn’t be going to the discotheque, you shouldn’t be going to the local bar, you shouldn’t be going to the local school cafeteria,” Paul said. “I think there are reasonable precautions.”


Paul also noted that the federal government should have stepped in to place travel restrictions on visas and those returning. He said that we should have a “uniform way of accepting people back in the country.”



“We have to be careful of people’s civil liberties,” said Paul. “But I’m also not saying that the government doesn’t have a role in trying to prevent contagion. So there are exceptions to things.”
 

LSV

Contributing Member
She seems To be opening her mouth pretty much every day so if we suddenly stop hearing from her then we know what happened...
Lisa
 

mechanic 217

I was told there would be cookies!
This will set a precedent for others to resist quarantine and will not end well, I fear.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
She needs to remember her "fifteen minutes of fame" means exactly fifteen minutes. Her fifteen minutes was over several days ago. <G>

Seriously, she needs to fade away into quiet quarantine.
 

StrangeTimes

Wanderer
Hmmmm.... will travel across the globe to a third world country to help those in need...
But, will not restrict herself to her own comfy home for 3 weeks to protect those around her.

Hypocrisy at best, deliberate intent to cause turmoil at worst.
 
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Wise Owl

Deceased
Fort Kent is currently getting hammered by a Nor'easter.... :D :lol::eleph:

Maybe they will both get snowed in and won't be able to leave for a few days....:p
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
Hat tip to Mzkitty for the pic from Houlton, ME on the twitter feed. Houlton is very close to Fort Kent so I figure this is what the nurse and boyfriend are looking at. I hope they have candles too as it looks like they may not have power either.

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Faroe

Un-spun
She has no eyebrows.

:hmm:

I don't know why that jumped out at me, it just did.

I know a blond with hardly any visible eye brows. She had two tattooed - in not quite the correct spot - which really looks unattractive.

As for the nurse assuring us she will not go out into crowds, she talked to the reporters on her porch, and even shook someone's hand! Furthermore, the only side with politics, is hers.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
All the patients she was working around vomiting and crapping themselves to death 'politics' too? She would bave a point if it wasn't for doctors and nurses in full PPE coming down with the virus themselves.
 

StrangeTimes

Wanderer
Dennis, in so many ways I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I assume someone becomes a nurse to help others... then stuff like this happens.

I remember asking a cop I know why he entered the force. I expected a discussion on how he wanted to serve and protect the public. His answer: "It paid better than the factory" LOL
 

cuz1961

Membership Revoked
rant on/

,, the amount of bullcrap spin in this is unbelievable. here are a few of the points presented that i take issue with.


Hickox tested negative for Ebola after returning recently from working for Doctors Without Borders in Sierra Leone. But she was placed in an isolation tent in New Jersey when she returned before being allowed to leave for Maine, which also sought to quarantine her at home.

,,, she wasn't allowed ,, she broke quarantine and bolted.


Kaci Hickox has fought a heated public battle over what she considers draconian measures to isolate her for 21 days after her return from Sierra Leone, in a case that highlights the dilemma over how to balance public health needs and personal liberty.

,,, here we see them employing the libtard tactic of using a emotional charged presupposed buzz word to alert libtards and obfuscate opponents, spinning science and history's proven use of quarantine as a good thing, into a bad thing.

,,, balance,,, another libtard buzzword, proven only by its use instead
of any supporting facts,,, a two for since it implies 'fairness' ,
another word used by libtards to imbue their vacant arguments
and rhetoric with substance by the mere vocalization of the word,,


,, balance in the case of quarantine places equal importance and
value on quarantine and freedom of movement,,,, when quarantine by its very nature is of the highest importance and value, and by definition
must be superior to freedom. ,,, it is freedom denied to protect the whole
from the individual. IF THERE WAS BALANCE THERE WOULD BE NO EFFECTIVE QUARANTINE !



In some U.S. states officials such as New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie have imposed strict quarantines

,,,, he did before he didn't is what this should have been said,
cuz he caved ,,,

on health workers returning from three Ebola-ravaged West African countries, but the U.S. federal government opposes such measures.

“When Gov. Christie stated that it was an abundance of caution, which is his reasoning for putting health care workers in a sort of quarantine for three weeks, it was really an abundance of politics,” Hickox said in an interview with NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

,,, sort of quarantine ? does snowflake own a dictionary ?,,
a quarantine is a quarantine or it isn't. ,, what is it with
libtards and their refusal to admit that words have specific
meanings ?,,, they actually must think one can be kinda pregnant,,


,,, abundance of politics,,, man the cdc intelligence people must
really love that word abundance ,,, like abundance of caution ,,,
, what caution pray tell ?,, no ban on flights , dangerous
inadequate ppe guidelines,,, that caution ?,,, gawd help us.

the word abundance is meaningless in both these instances,,
but it sure serves the purpose of misdirecting and deflecting
the subject of quarantine and turning it into a political motive
instead of a scientific and medical motive.


“And I think all of the scientific and medical and public health community agrees with me on that statement,” she said.


,, i guess it makes them feel impartial and open minded and educated and morally superior when they uses the words scientific, medical and community in a sentence.

,, she thinks,, not knows,, thinks all,,,,,, so she doesn't know if all,,
so it cant actually be all now can it ?,,, ah reaching for duct tape,,

,, here we go with the delusion that just saying words makes them
a physical reality and fact,,

, has she talked to all of the scientists ?
,,, of course not,,,

has she talked to all medical folks in the world ?,,
what kind of rube does she take me for ?,,

has she talked to all the public health community ? ,, such as the 1600 docs and nurses that quit in one day in nigeria at the beginning of the outbreak months ago as documented in an article here on this board ?,, ,,how about the US nurses that are threatening to go on strike ?,, has she had the pleasure and honor to talk to any of our own health care community here on this board ?... no.

so either she is a deluded megalomaniac or a liar,, or a libtard,
, all three is what i think.



Christie has defended
his decision to impose a mandatory three-week quarantine, saying that counting on a voluntary system may or may not work and that protecting health and safety is the government’s job.


,,, he didn't defend,,, he capitulated,,, and saying your action may
or may not work is in no way a defense,,,and protecting the
public health is exactly what he did not do,,, so this whole section
is meaningless words to maze the reader into only remembering
the libtard buzz words than incant reality into their perceptions.
,,, what lsd with-drawled idiot ever wrote this gibberish ?


The most deadly outbreak of Ebola on record has killed nearly 5,000 people, all but a handful of them in Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone.

,, we all know,, at the admission of the who,, that these numbers are
under reported ,,, in other words INACCURATE,, but libtards like
throwing numbers around,,

see just the use of words makes things into reality,,, magic i guess,,,,

and did you notice no mention of nigeria ? /-),, remember the nigerian gov requires by law permission to report news or take pics and vid without their express advance approval so i guess this reporter didn't want to get fined so he just left any mention of nigeria out,,

,, this is the way libtard propaganda works folks,,
inaccurate incomplete and often wrong pronouncements of non facts.
but hey ,, the perception is what the libtards shoot for,,not the truth.

perception is their reality and they want it to be yours too,, so as
long as they use the right buzzwords and incant them into reality
in your perception and memory they are satisfied.


Hickox tested negative for Ebola after returning recently from working for Doctors Without Borders in Sierra Leone. But she was placed in an isolation tent in New Jersey when she returned before being allowed to leave for Maine, which also sought to quarantine her at home.

,,, arggg,,, she wasn't allowed by anyone other than herself !,, she
BROKE QUARANTINE,,, sought to quarantine my hairy butt ,, she
WAS quarantined ,,

, why do libtards always twist the truth into a lie ? ,,, but i guess
that question answers itself.



A judge in Maine on Friday rejected that state’s bid to quarantine Hickox, instead imposing limited restrictions on her. The judge said that Hickox must continue direct monitoring of her health, coordinate travel plans with health officials and report any symptoms.

,, which she promptly didnt do with her lil bike ride,, so why even
bring this up ?,, other to leave an impression that she did something
she did NOT do ?,,, more libtard Pavlovian perception maze footwork is my guess.

“We know a lot about Ebola,” Hickox told “Meet the Press.” “We know that it’s not transmitted from someone who is asymptomatic, as I am and many other aid workers will be when they return.”

,, how disingenuous can she get ?,, they know that 13% NEVER
develop a fever,,, thus they know that using temp as a determination of asymptomatic has a built in failure rate of 13% !!!,,

thus they know that it CAN be transmitted by her and others returning if they use temp as a definition of asymptomatic.,,, another shining
example of a libtard turning and spinning lies into truth by the mere
uttering of words.

Speaking to NBC from Fort Kent, Hickox indicated she would continue to stay away from crowds in her community, but that her boyfriend, Ted Wilbur, should be allowed to go back to nursing school on Monday.


,,,, kaci,, ,,,, either doesn't realize or conveniently forgets that contact with her boyfriend is the same as contact with her in that nursing school.
his butt should be under quarantine for breaking her quarantine.
,, she really doesn't understand what quarantine is for being a
hot shot nurse. if this is the best of the best in intelligence in the
cdc we are toast.


“I understand that the community has been through a lot in the past week, and I do, you know, apologize to them for that,” she told NBC.

,,, if she understood ,, why did she do it ?,, open admission she
doesn't care about the community,,, if she did she wouldn't have
broken quarantine,,, this isn't an apology kaci,, this is an insult.


“I will not go into town, into crowded public places. … But on the other hand, you know, my partner is currently in nursing school, and there is definitely zero scientific evidence that says he shouldn’t be allowed to return to his campus on Monday.”

,,, 13% of ebola infected people never show a temp,,, current
screening by temp INSURES a 13% of ebola infected people
being a health risk not caught by temp screening methods,, this
is more than zero proof my lil snowflake kaci,,, and since you
have had contact with your beau and you may be one of the
13%, there is scientific proof your beau should not be let into
school,,, should be in fact under quarantine himself.
man this libtard is such a big flake and dunce,,,, either ignorant or dishonest.


Hickox also has assured the town’s police chief, Tom Pelletier, that she doesn’t plan on going in town and that she doesn’t want to worry townspeople, even though she has not tested positive for the disease, has shown no symptoms and thus cannot transmit it to others.

,, man just repeat the lies over and over. she doesn't plan she does.
without notifying anyone in advance,,, not a way to dispel worry
so i conclude she doesn't care if anyone worries or not regardless
of what she says. ,,, again 13% show no fever and CAN transmit
it to others. ignorant or dishonest.


They understand the sentiment in the community, and they do not want to be disruptive,” Pelletier said.

,, geezz,, this AGAIN. they don't understand or they wouldn't be going
out and about ,,, they are being disruptive whether they want to or not,
and they know it. cant say ignorant here,,, just outright dishonesty.
,, and transparent at that.


“I believe them,” he added. “The governor has made some statements that have not helped us keep civility in the town.”
Gov. Paul LePage expressed disappointment with the judge’s decision Friday, saying the state would nonetheless abide by the law.

,, so its the governors actions and not kaci and beau huh ?,,,

typical libtard tactic of deflecting personal blame onto others,,
, if she wanted to help keep civility in town she would have
stayed home. no ignorance here,,, just pure dishonesty and
dodging personal responsibility of her own actions and consequences.
,,



the rest of this article is a bunch of crap also imho, ymmv.
 

Palmetto

Son, Husband, Father
Is it just me or does she look like the half-sister of Debbie Wasserman-Schultz?

I think she is a self centered libtard spokesman for the WH.
 
Just have the feeling that stuff like this (ignoring isolation orders) will END after there are several dozens or more likely HUNDREDS

of Ebola cases clogging USA hospitals.
 

JohnGaltfla

#NeverTrump
Can someone please get this ugly, lying, piece of crap commie-liberal bitch off of my media feeds? God she's such a whore. :kk2:
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
No, the "politics" is in SUPPRESSING the TRUTH about ebola: its contagiousness, its ease of transmission, its spread in the US, and the current TRUE numbers of infected in the US (and worldwide).

THOSE are your "politics", Miss Kaci.

And you, ma'am are a SHILL.
 

eens

Nuns with Guns
LOL!


Oxford-based company develops Ebola doll that looks like quarantined nurse

Posted: Nov 10, 2014 9:19 AM EST
Updated: Nov 10, 2014 9:28 AM EST
By Rob PolanskyCONNECT




“The Case-E Ebola Nurse” doll. (HeroBuilders.com photo)

OXFORD, CT (WFSB) -
A company in Oxford has come out with an Ebola-related doll that went on sale Monday.

“The Case-E Ebola Nurse” was created by HeroBuilders and comes with an Ebola-free health certificate.

The doll bears a striking resemblance to Kaci Hickox, the nurse who was quarantined against her will in New Jersey after treating patients in Sierra Leone, one of the counties dealing with the outbreak.

Hickox was involved in a tense standoff with health officials in Maine. However, a judge eventually ruled they failed to prove the need for enforcing her quarantine.

HeroBuilders' doll has Hickox's sandy-blonde hair and other similar features. It also has a red “X” over the right eye.

The doll is on sale for $29.95.

More information can be found by emailing sales@herobuilders.com or visiting the company's website here.




Read more: http://www.wfsb.com/story/27342139/...at-looks-like-quarantined-nurse#ixzz3IgpECxzr
 

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packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Kaci Hickox says ‘abundance of politics’ behind Ebola quarantines




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Kaci Hickox (left) is joined by her boyfriend, Ted Wilbur, to speak with the media outside of their home in Fort Kent in this October 2014 file photo.
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anyone else get the eebie jeebies when looking at this special snowflake?
 

JohnGaltfla

#NeverTrump
She's right you know. We the people want all skanky commie lib Marxist Obama supporting pieces of crap quarantined due to their mental disorder.
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
Well folks, she and the boyfriend Ted are moving south sometime this week. So, anywhere warm is where they are going. If you have a college with nursing studies there you "may" be graced by her prescence soon.

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...friend-withdraws-from-nursing-program-at-UMFK

Who knows, maybe she will be doing press releases on the way and a big "HI HOW ARE YOU" when they light in their new state....

Us folk up in Maine made them "uncomfortable" I guess....... :screw: :groucho:

I bet Gov LePage will be happy to see them go. She was a royal PIA for him.
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
i must just be thick as a brick

here i thought it was deadly contagious diseases and laws that were behind quarantines

sure am glad she set me straight on that
 
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