EBOLA Kaci Hickox’s boyfriend withdraws from nursing program at UMFK

Wise Owl

Deceased
See ya later Kaci. Buh bye............. :D






Kaci Hickox’s boyfriend withdraws from nursing program at UMFK

http://bangordailynews.com/2014/11/...aws-from-nursing-program/?ref=moreInaroostook


By Julia Bayly, BDN Staff
Posted Nov. 08, 2014, at 1:07 p.m.
Last modified Nov. 09, 2014, at 5:58 a.m.

FORT KENT, Maine — Ted Wilbur, the boyfriend of nurse Kaci Hickox, has formally withdrawn from the nursing program at the University of Maine at Fort Kent and the two plan to move away from Fort Kent within the week.

Wilbur made his decision after he and the campus apparently were unable to reach a mutually satisfactory plan for his return to classes this week.

“I know [Wilbur] has spoken publicly with concerns he had about returning,” Dan Demeritt, University of Maine System spokesman, said Saturday morning. “Our position is we worked with Ted and the broader campus community to address all the concerns and uncertainties we faced over the last couple of weeks.”

Hickox returned to Fort Kent Oct. 27 after flying to New York on Oct. 24 from West Africa, where she treated Ebola patients. She is not considered contagious, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, because she has tested negative for the virus and has shown no symptoms.

A temporary court order issued at the end of October and made permanent last week, however, requires Hickox to be monitored daily and places some travel restrictions on her until 21 days — the incubation period for the Ebola virus — have past since she last had contact with a patient suffering from Ebola. That incubation period for Hickox ends at 11:59 p.m. Monday, Nov. 10.
The order did not mandate Hickox be isolated at home as the state had sought.

Hickox and Wilbur, however, told Fort Kent Police Chief Tom Pelletier that in spite of the court decision they did not plan on going into town to shop or eat.

“They understand the sentiment in the community, and they do not want to be disruptive,” Pelletier said last week.

Since Hickox’s return to the home they share here, Wilbur has been participating in his accelerated nursing program at UMFK via online classes.

UMFK officials said last week they were working on a plan to reintegrate Wilbur onto the campus.
“I am not concerned he is a threat to anyone’s health,” Raymond Phinney, UMFK associate dean of student life, said last week. “My only concern is how the other students would react to him being here.”

Several students, Phinney said, were concerned about having Wilbur back in class before the 21-day incubation period for Ebola expires for Hickox.

“Ted is aware there are some real concerns,” Phinney said.
On Saturday, Phinney said he could not discuss the specifics of Wilbur’s withdrawing from campus, but did say he had not heard any recent specific concerns from any UMFK students.
“We were prepared to have him come back,” Phinney said.

Privacy laws limit officials’ comments about students, but Demeritt said Saturday he “regretted” that Wilbur decided to leave UMFK and that Wilbur feels university officials did not do enough to accommodate him.

“We had a broad body of concerns to deal with,” Demeritt said. “Campus officials worked closely with first responders, health workers and local law enforcement on this, [and] we truly regret he did not think we did enough to address his concerns.”

But in the end, Demeritt said, officials needed to balance the safety and concerns of everyone involved and an earnest effort was made to accommodate Wilbur.

Neither Phinney nor Demeritt would comment on any specific threat, but several social media sites dedicated to keeping Hickox out of Fort Kent and Maine have gone online since Hickox returned to Fort Kent.

Fort Kent Police Chief Pelletier, who could not be reached for comment on Saturday, has been monitoring those websites for any specific threats made toward Hickox or Wilbur.

“We wish Kaci and Ted the very best,” Demeritt said. “They are both really very compelling people.”

On Saturday Hickox and Wilbur sat down for a wide ranging interview on what it’s been like being in the media spotlight, how they have dealt with local reaction and their decision to leave Fort Kent. That interview will be posted online Sunday morning.
 

Rescuedog

Inactive
What a dumb bunny. He needs to suck it up, what kind of person gives up a place in an accelerated nursing program? The two of them should have just said, "we value our neighbors and their concerns, and although we don't agree with the need for a 21 day quarantine we will abide by it." Then, it's over and she's a hero.

Now she has a boyfriend without a future and her righteous indignance. Way to go.

RD
 

4RIVERS

Veteran Member
Sounds to me like a lot of people there enforced the quarantine themselves, by making it known they did not want him back on campus before the 21 days were up.

I bet he files a civil rights lawsuit against the university too. The lib runs deep in him and the princess girlfriend...
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
No, Ted is NOT sick. They are not happy with their treatment, (restrictions on travel, et al) and have decided to move out of Maine.....lol.
If they had just shut their mouths and stayed home for 21 days, there wouldn't be a problem but she had to open her big mouth a bunch of times, go on national tv and scream discrimination and other things like, it's not good science, blah blah.

Mainers are good folks. They saw Kaci as a threat to their lives. Kaci thumbed her nose at all of us up here. Now she is picking up her toys and leaving.

Oh and the students at the college don't want Ted back there either.

Just a couple of spoiled brats that didn't get their way so they are leaving. Like I said above, Buh Bye..........don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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“They understand the sentiment in the community, and they do not want to be disruptive,” Pelletier said last week.


:prfl:
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Now she has a boyfriend without a future and her righteous indignance.



I think something like this could be said for every liberal in the country....
 

Faroe

Un-spun
What a dumb bunny. He needs to suck it up, what kind of person gives up a place in an accelerated nursing program? The two of them should have just said, "we value our neighbors and their concerns, and although we don't agree with the need for a 21 day quarantine we will abide by it." Then, it's over and she's a hero.

Now she has a boyfriend without a future and her righteous indignance. Way to go.

RD

They do seem to have messed this up further at every turn. If he was keeping up with the course work on line, what was the problem? Also, sounds like he could have returned to campus next week (the incubation period ends the 10th, according to the article), so what exactly was the unspecified way in which he couldn't reach an agreement with the school?

I wonder where they are moving to.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
They do seem to have messed this up further at every turn. If he was keeping up with the course work on line, what was the problem? Also, sounds like he could have returned to campus next week (the incubation period ends the 10th, according to the article), so what exactly was the unspecified way in which he couldn't reach an agreement with the school?

I wonder where they are moving to.

CA I hope---they'd fit right in...
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
bet they go to CDC in atlanta

Bet they don't. They won't be wanted there either. She has a "civil rights" lawyer. Bet no one will touch her OR him now after their ten mins of fame in NJ and Maine. She has a big mouth. He does too and it won't go well for them at most hospitals/medical organizations.

Maybe they can both go back to Africa? She is trained for that, right? He can carry bed pans...
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
I was surprised all along that SINCE SHE IS/WAS A "CDC EMPLOYEE" and made no secret of that fact, that the CDC did NOT "encourage her" to be more "cooperative" with the very program that THEY put in place for OTHER PEOPLE "at risk" so as to protect us all!
I WOULD CONSIDER IT "JUSTIFIED" IF SHE LOST HER CDC JOB, IN FACT ANY future "government" employment". The goverment needs fewer "special snowflakes" and more team players.
 

Rescuedog

Inactive
Maybe they can both go back to Africa? She is trained for that, right? He can carry bed pans...

Ahahaha! I have a friend who waited two years to get a place in an accelerated nursing program. I just can't believe this would be enough to derail someone from their future. This attitude will come to haunt him in his future career and relationships. So short sighted. I thought libs were big on "the common good" unless of course it affects you.

RD
 

4RIVERS

Veteran Member
I was surprised all along that SINCE SHE IS/WAS A "CDC EMPLOYEE" and made no secret of that fact, that the CDC did NOT "encourage her" to be more "cooperative" with the very program that THEY put in place for OTHER PEOPLE "at risk" so as to protect us all!
I WOULD CONSIDER IT "JUSTIFIED" IF SHE LOST HER CDC JOB, IN FACT ANY future "government" employment". The goverment needs fewer "special snowflakes" and more team players.

She won't lose her CDC job... They're the ones that used her to break the states quarantines. None of the FEDS liked the states superceding their power.
 

AddisonRose

On loan from Heaven
What a dumb bunny. He needs to suck it up, what kind of person gives up a place in an accelerated nursing program? The two of them should have just said, "we value our neighbors and their concerns, and although we don't agree with the need for a 21 day quarantine we will abide by it." Then, it's over and she's a hero.

Now she has a boyfriend without a future and her righteous indignance. Way to go.

RD


+100000
 

Genevieve

working on it
so basically the school didn't fall all over themselves to kiss his a$$ and so he threw a hissy and quit. eh, who gives a crap.

this all makes me wonder about all the other supposed "professionals" that take care of people and what they're willing to expose others to because of their egos
 

Tundra Gypsy

Veteran Member
I hope they make their next home near the CDC and makes everyone uncomfortable there. In the meantime; I wonder how the 'infected' room mate is doing.....no one is saying anything about that....

I know I don't want them here.....
 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
Both of them need to go back to west Africa and stay there.

Typical liberals. All concerned about their hurt feelings, and could care less about anyone else.

How do liberals even get through a day being this stupid?

A big middle finger salute to them.

Regards to all,
Nowski
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
It can take years for a person to "fit in" when you move to Maine. People need to see you are good folk and mean no harm to anyone or anything. Once that happens you will be good to go. BTDT....

Any small town in Maine is like that. Yeah, we are nice to tourists and weekenders cause they spend MONEY up here. Lot's of money but once they, the crowds, are gone we all sigh with relief.
These two people stirred the pot, made people very uneasy, and messed with the quiet of the little town in northeastern Maine. I don't blame those townfolk for their thoughts on these two. Who the heck wants tv reporters from all over the globe descending on their privacy, asking questions and making all the quiet go away?

I think the town may even throw a goodbye party once the liberal nurses leave the state. At the very least there will be huge sighs of relief being heard when their car leaves town for good. And I don't blame them one bit.

We get descended upon all summer and during snowmobiling weather by yuppies from MA and NY that come up to play here. They are ALL noisy, make messes of the roadside with their empty beer cans and trash and their blatant disregard for speed limits AND noisy, drunken parties that seem to last the full length of their stay in Maine.

So, I hope these two leave for good. Just two less to upset the townsfolk. See ya!
 

bbbuddy

DEPLORABLE ME
What a dumb bunny. He needs to suck it up, what kind of person gives up a place in an accelerated nursing program? The two of them should have just said, "we value our neighbors and their concerns, and although we don't agree with the need for a 21 day quarantine we will abide by it." Then, it's over and she's a hero.

Now she has a boyfriend without a future and her righteous indignance. Way to go.

RD

I only have one quibble with your post - she doesn't have "righteous indignance", it's SELF RIGHTEOUS indignance....
 

Faroe

Un-spun
I hope they make their next home near the CDC and makes everyone uncomfortable there. In the meantime; I wonder how the 'infected' room mate is doing.....no one is saying anything about that....

I know I don't want them here.....

I may have missed it, but I never heard the nurse say one thing about the plight of her sick roomate. Even if the didn't care for the roomate, it would have been the gracious thing to do.
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
They do seem to have messed this up further at every turn. If he was keeping up with the course work on line, what was the problem? Also, sounds like he could have returned to campus next week (the incubation period ends the 10th, according to the article), so what exactly was the unspecified way in which he couldn't reach an agreement with the school?

I wonder where they are moving to.

As I said before, the community has shunned them...not just for the lack of concern for the publics' welfare but for their indignant hostility at their 'treatment'. Who needs jackasses like that around?
 

Trivium Pursuit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Re all the things pointed out here: It DOES seem that being a lib has consequences that haunt you for the rest of your life. IT also seems that they will never recognize them as such, just how "the man" or "the system" is treating them...
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
I may have missed it, but I never heard the nurse say one thing about the plight of her sick roomate. Even if the didn't care for the roomate, it would have been the gracious thing to do.

Absolutely right. She has been FAR too wrapped up in her piddling little drama to give 2 hoots for her dead roommate who died a horrible death.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Absolutely right. She has been FAR too wrapped up in her piddling little drama to give 2 hoots for her dead roommate who died a horrible death.

That's a pretty standard state-of-mind for all liberals. They're basically children in grown-up bodies. As we all know, children only think about themselves. Never any thought to anyone else or how their actions might hurt someone else.

Petulant, self-righteous children.
 

Seeker

3 Bombs for Hawkins
They see themselves as living by "the Golden Rule" for their willingness to do something for "the little people" (rest of us). . . . and you'd damn well better recognize that or you're the one lacking in goodness. They see themselves as giving and godly, and if you question or criticize, you are petty and small minded and unworthy. Oh . . and they have to tell you this because you are not living up to their vision. [ And yes, I have been so told.]
 
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packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
boo hoo for her and her boyfriend and Iowa doesn't want them either!

There are a couple of dozen suspected cases here in Iowa right now, with all suspected individuals in quarantine, they are health care workers that were in Africa according to the local news. The state won't say who they are or where they are located only that they are in imposed quarantine and that only one person wasn't cooperative and is there under the watch of law enforcement. What I found interesting was the fact that the state provided each person with 30 days of food, water, meds, etc., so that they could stay in quarantine.
 

30.06

Contributing Member
boo hoo for her and her boyfriend and Iowa doesn't want them either!

There are a couple of dozen suspected cases here in Iowa right now, with all suspected individuals in quarantine, they are health care workers that were in Africa according to the local news. The state won't say who they are or where they are located only that they are in imposed quarantine and that only one person wasn't cooperative and is there under the watch of law enforcement. What I found interesting was the fact that the state provided each person with 30 days of food, water, meds, etc., so that they could stay in quarantine.

Wow. Sounds like Iowa's got it's head screwed on straight. If everywhere else did this this thing would be over in a month.
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
Wow. Sounds like Iowa's got it's head screwed on straight. If everywhere else did this this thing would be over in a month.

Fort Kent did provide them with groceries and even delivered them a pizza from the Moose Shack right to their door. There were pics of the chief of police delivering the food to thm. The health nurse visited daily and the chief of police kept them safe from being harrassed or shot at. Yeah, according to earlier news reports the chief was worried about their safety so I have to think some of the folks in Fort Kent were not very happy to have snowflake in their town.

I think MS Kaci got a rude awakening the longer she was here.

I don't care where they move to as long as it's away from Maine. And please don't drive thru our area here in Western Maine to get to where you are going. Take 95 south and out that way, if you will.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Wow. Sounds like Iowa's got it's head screwed on straight. If everywhere else did this this thing would be over in a month.

This was the plan from the get go, from what I understand, for the state of Iowa. I think keeping the names of the potentially infected individuals is best for everyone's safety all the way around, and no news coverage i.e. interviews, until well after the fact. As the special snowflake found out people don't want to be around you even if you were at a risk for ebola, so good luck getting another job there sunshine!
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Fort Kent did provide them with groceries and even delivered them a pizza from the Moose Shack right to their door. There were pics of the chief of police delivering the food to thm. The health nurse visited daily and the chief of police kept them safe from being harrassed or shot at. Yeah, according to earlier news reports the chief was worried about their safety so I have to think some of the folks in Fort Kent were not very happy to have snowflake in their town.

I think MS Kaci got a rude awakening the longer she was here.

I don't care where they move to as long as it's away from Maine. And please don't drive thru our area here in Western Maine to get to where you are going. Take 95 south and out that way, if you will.

Providing them with groceries, and even free cable for the month, seems like the logical thing to do as it reduces the risk of those in quarantine needing to go out and get stuff and thereby risking an entire community! Glad to hear that Fort Kent was accommodating, even having pizza delivered. Special snowflake is an idiot who is now learning what it means to shoot oneself in the foot with their own mouth.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Decided to make a list of things I don't have on hand if I had to stay in for the next thirty days, looks like it's time to go shopping I'm critically low on chocolate :D most everything else I have.
 

Virtualco

Panic Early - Panic Often
He may have had his palm greased a little by the CDC just to gracefully exit stage left.
 

Heliobas Disciple

TB Fanatic
Here's the link to an interview of kaci and her boyfriend. Sorry, but I can't post the article from my device.


http://bangordailynews.com/2014/11/...battle-leaving-fort-kent/?ref=mostReadBoxNews

This is a must read - looks like the boyfriend is as much a snowflake as Kaci. Entitled doesn't even begin to describe it. :rolleyes:

http://bangordailynews.com/2014/11/...battle-leaving-fort-kent/?ref=mostReadBoxNews
(fair use applies)


Nurse Kaci Hickox, boyfriend open up about the forced quarantine battle, leaving Fort Kent
By Julia Bayly, BDN Staff
Posted Nov. 09, 2014, at 2:29 p.m.

FORT KENT, Maine — At the Moose Shack restaurant, there’s about $250 in gift certificates waiting for nurse Kaci Hickox and her boyfriend, Ted Wilbur, purchased for the couple from people in Ohio, Washington, Indiana and Missouri during the peak of the media frenzy around them.

As Hickox’s 21-day monitoring for Ebola virus exposure comes to an end midnight Monday, though, it’s unlikely she and Wilbur will be in Fort Kent long enough to use them.

“We are leaving by the end of the week,” Wilbur said Saturday afternoon while seated at the couple’s kitchen table. “At this point we are planning to head south, spend time with family, and after that, we really don’t know.”

For the past two weeks, Hickox and Wilbur have been in the center of a national debate on the level of isolation appropriate for aid workers returning from Ebola-stricken nations in West Africa, as well as fighting legal battles in two states.

This weekend, the two sat down with the Bangor Daily News for a wide ranging interview on the impact it has had on their lives, taking a stand for civil liberties, that famous bike ride and their decision to leave Maine once her 21 days of self-monitoring concludes on Nov. 10.

Wilbur and Hickox were quick to say their planned move has nothing to do with the Fort Kent community, rather what Wilbur termed “a lack of leadership” on the the part of the University of Maine at Fort Kent, where he was studying nursing.

On Friday, Wilbur withdrew from the campus’ accelerated nursing program, accusing campus officials of failing to address concerns he had about returning to classes this week. Since Hickox’s return, Wilbur had been participating in the nursing program at UMFK via online classes or by phoning in to on-campus lectures.

UMFK officials were working on a plan to reintegrate Wilbur into the campus, where his presence was controversial. Wilbur said campus officials told him students had expressed concerns about his return, even making threats against him should he return to class.

“They said they were going to warn the students I was coming back and that I would probably face harassment and discrimination,” Wilbur said. “If that did happen, they said I could tell [Associate Dean of Student Life] Ray Phinney and he’d ‘keep track of it’ and discipline appropriately.”

Wilbur said that response felt far short of one adequate for an institution of higher learning.


“We had a broad body of concerns to deal with,” Dan Demeritt, University of Maine System spokesman said Saturday. “Campus officials worked closely with first responders, health workers and local law enforcement on this, [and] we truly regret he did not think we did enough to address his concerns.”

But in the end, Demeritt said, officials needed to balance the safety and concerns of everyone involved and an earnest effort was made to accommodate Wilbur.

“I asked for something more protective,” Wilbur said. “I did not feel safe, secure or supported by the campus officials, [and] I will now pursue my nursing degree at another institution.”



‘It was surreal’

It’s a lot quieter these days on the road in front of the Hickox and Wilbur’s home. Traffic — what little there is of it — is back to normal after the departure of the last of the network news crews last weekend.

But for a week, the national and international press were focused on the small two-story house as Hickox, after successfully fighting quarantine orders in New Jersey, battled an attempt by the state and Gov. Paul LePage to keep her inside for the full 21 days.

On Oct. 31, Chief Judge Charles LaVerdiere ruled the Maine Department of Health and Human Services failed to prove that limiting Hickox’s movements was necessary to protect others from the danger of infection.

In the days leading up to the decision, news crews lined the country road in front of Hickox and Wilbur’s home, and every move — from accepting a pizza delivery to her famous short bike ride — was met with a scramble of reporters and cameras.

“It was surreal,” Hickox said.

And what about that bike ride?

“For us, it was definitely a lovely outing,” Hickox said. “We had not been out of the house in days, and we’d been through a lot.”

The couple stressed, however, it was indeed an act of civil disobedience aimed at forcing LePage’s hand with regards to the court order.

“The reality is when a state decides to quarantine somebody, they have certain responsibilities, and one of those is to actually get a court order,” Hickox said. “That is just the fact of quarantine law in many states.”

Confining someone to their home without such an order, Wilbur said, is the same as tossing someone in jail without first informing an individual of their rights or charging them.

“So in the state of Maine, it was the attorney general, the governor and the health commissioner’s responsibility to get a court order to force me into quarantine,” Hickox said.

“We had to force the governor through civil disobedience to actually do his job of actually getting that court order,” Wilbur said.

“We were fighting for so much more than my rights and freedoms,” Hickox said. “Now when aid workers return, they are going to understand calling up a lawyer is not a bad idea if they are being asked to sign some in-home quarantine order.”

What people failed to realize, Wilbur said, was Hickox’s first-hand knowledge of Ebola and what it can do. Hickox spent four weeks as the medical team leader for a 35-bed, 250-staff Ebola treatment facility in Sierra Leone this past September and October.

“If Kaci had gotten sick or started running a fever, the first thing she would do for her own safety, for my safety and for everybody’s safety is go to a hospital and get tested,” he said.

Heading south

As for what happens once the two head south, Hickox and Wilbur are keeping their options open. Wilbur says he will pursue his nursing degree. Once he has it, Hickox said, the two may pursue their dream of working together overseas in public health.

“We both have a passion for travel and other cultures and going to places to meet medical needs,” Hickox said. “That kind of work has been a passion of mine, and it’s not often you meet someone who gets it, [and] Ted and I are looking forward to a life together doing just that.”

In Fort Kent, Hickox spurred mixed reactions.

Some demanded she stay inside or leave town. Several groups on social media sprang up demanding she leave the state altogether. At the same time, many residents sent notes of support to Hickox and even dropped off groceries and homemade baked goods.

“Yeah, people have been really incredible, and for all those who have supported us, ‘thank you’ really isn’t enough,” Wilbur said. “Those people have given us the strength to get by, and we have had some really rough days, and they have helped us get through those rough days, so ‘thank you’ does not really cover the kind of love and appreciation we feel for all the support we have been given from so many people that we don’t even know.”

Over at the Moose Shack — home of Hickox’s favorite pizza — there also was disappointment they were leaving town.

“That’s really too bad,” said April Hafford, daughter of the owner of the Moose Shack. “It makes me really sad to hear that.”

Ever since the restaurant got exposure on national television after Hickox mentioned it by name during a press conference, offers of support poured in from around the country.

“For the most part, people are calling and wanting to buy them pizza,” Hafford said. “I just want [Hickox and Wilbur] to know there are a lot of people who support them.”

Among those supporters is Fort Kent Police Chief Tom Pelletier, who was in daily contact with the couple and was often seen delivering groceries to the house and doing his best to ensure they felt safe in the community.

“I wish they were sticking around,” Pelletier said Saturday. “Ted and Kaci have been well within their rights in everything they have done.”
 
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