CORONA Local ER experience

Roke

Member
I live near a Northern Mi. Regional medical center. A family friend took his mother into E.R last weekend because she passed out and he found her on the floor. He said it was packed. While they were waiting a guy walked in and he had cut the end of his finger off. He had the peice with him. They told him they would not be able to see him, he had to go somewhere else. They were too busy and understffed. This is insane.

Given staff shortages it has to be by design they are getting rid of nurses and staff for not vaccinating.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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See my earlier thread:

 

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
I live near a Northern Mi. Regional medical center. A family friend took his mother into E.R last weekend because she passed out and he found her on the floor. He said it was packed. While they were waiting a guy walked in and he had cut the end of his finger off. He had the peice with him. They told him they would not be able to see him, he had to go somewhere else. They were too busy and understffed. This is insane.

Given staff shortages it has to be by design they are getting rid of nurses and staff for not vaccinating.

The guy with the cut finger, should have used his blow out kit. QuikClot Combat Gauze,
or Celox Rapid, would have stopped any bleeding, and then properly bandaging the
cut finger. The days of simply going to a hospital ER are over, and people need to learn
how to fix their medical problems as best possible.

Wait until the 100 million illegal Africans from Africa get here. Hospitals will simply
disappear and what will peoples do then.

Please be safe everyone. Realize and know, that the end is now here.

Regards to all.

Nowski
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
Since COVID, it was already so so bad trying to get appointments to regular Doctors in less than 3 or 4 months, that there were times the only way to get treatment or attention to something you knew needs to be addressed was to go through the emergency room.

I just finished up a CHF down turn that is due to the fact I couldn't get in to see even the Doctors PA's because of weight gain in a timely fashion. I caught it in the very early stage and knew it had to be medication related, but due to the huge delay to even get in to my Doctor or their PA I ended up going through the emergency room and waiting for hours to get seen and get at least a start to solving the issue.

The problem started in April. The ER visit was in late May and it took until late 3rd week August to even see a PA to get tests scheduled. The test took until early September which ID the problem and she changed one med. All total I've dropped 40 lbs of water weight most of which was after the med change.

Because of the huge delays my CHF was made worse and I'm going to have to work very hard for a long time to try to get back to where I was way back in April if I can.

I'm working now to try to get follow up visits scheduled before the end of the year and have been on wait lists for all of September with NO free days out through December.

The local hospitals push going to their convent care walk in clinics which are fine for fairly minor things, but even they are always backed up and 9 out of ten times end up telling you to go to the emergency room for anything with any meat to it. They can prescribe lab tests, ekg's and simple xrays but even that is very limited.

Add in the number of medical professionals that are quitting because they are totally burned out to the ones the administrators are threatening to fire if their not vaxed and it is going to be a royal mess.
 
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colonel holman

Veteran Member
This was coming to a head just prior to covid. Covid poured gas on the fire to accellerate the collpase of medical care. Remember prior to covid when docs were all rushing toward retirement the moment the had stashed enough retirement funds, myself included. The BS that swirls around health insurance problems had already become in tolerable, then worsened by mega-corp medical centers sucking all docs out of private practice and into their system as grunt employees, driven like rented mules to overproduce, overtest, overtreat. Covid simply loaded excessive physical and emotions burdens well past breaking points. All departments are now being pushed to overproduce with reduced staff. The collapse is happening right now and will become more obvious every day
 
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1911user

Veteran Member
Wait till the sportiness gets started.

I saw an article yesterday that Chicongo had started mounting public blowout kits instead of AEDs in the usual places.

Chicago Installing ‘Bleeding Control Kits’ in Hundreds of City Buildings – NBC Chicago
That is part of the Stop The Bleed training program that has been going in the US for several years now.
I've posted about it a few times. Part of it is hands-on training and the other part is having these kits available in schools, buildings, etc.

The first post on this thread provides many of the details.

An example of the STB (stop the bleed) "kits" - basically minimalist trauma kits without the chest seals or nose tubes (they don't discuss those in the classes)
 
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#1 oldskool

"You finally really did it. You maniacs!
I have left folks, on a stretcher...in back of med unit...in a seat in waiting room ! Mostly illegal mehicans in metro Atlanta. Knee pain, for last 3 weeks, 100.2 fever, 14th pregnancy with heartburn.....not ER worthy.
 

tm1439m

Veteran Member
I cut my right index finger in two, long ways many years ago from the end down to the second knuckle. Actually it happened as a result of someone horse playing around and I got hurt in the process.

I was a mechanic back then. Grabbed a very oily rag out of my pocket and wrapped it tight to try to slow/stop the bleeding. It was shooting blood like a squirt gun.

Got to the ER. They were slammed. Told me to wait and they would call me back when a space became available. I sat down for maybe 30 minutes. People were looking at the puddle of blood pooling at my feet and asking me was I not concerned.

I finally went back up to the desk and said you are taking people back who appear to have little to nothing wrong with them while I am over here bleeding to death. She was like sir we will get to you when your turn comes up. Please be seated. I held my hand up and unwrapped the finger at which time blood shot all over the desk area. The finger laid open into two very distinct parts, lol. She screams Oh My God!! Then hollers for someone to come and take me back.

Later she appologised and said I had no idea you were that bad off, you seemed perfectly fine. I have a very high tollerance for pain plus I show little to no emotion in the worst of emergencies. Always keep my cool. Maybe if there is ever a next time I will act all flipped out and like I am about to die I guess, lol.
 

Mprepared

Veteran Member
I live near a Northern Mi. Regional medical center. A family friend took his mother into E.R last weekend because she passed out and he found her on the floor. He said it was packed. While they were waiting a guy walked in and he had cut the end of his finger off. He had the peice with him. They told him they would not be able to see him, he had to go somewhere else. They were too busy and understffed. This is insane.

Given staff shortages it has to be by design they are getting rid of nurses and staff for not vaccinating.

I type medical reports and typed one yesterday and a man had a heart attack and he needed a cardiac floor bed and an angiogram and they had no beds. The doctor said they ER was full of heart patients.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
I have kicked around 3 or 4 ERs in y history, and damn STRAIGHT about triaging the patients DIRECTLY to a semi-comfy chair and tell em they will get seen as time allows.

With THAT kind of finger you should have been seen immediately (it really DOES help to share multi-media hints with the front desk sec'y, who is likely NOT a nurse.

In the shop I now use (as an ex-medic) they usually have a couple Medics hanging at the front desk in the ED and my bride or I usually get brought in PRONTO since we know the medics (familiarity breeds contempt..yeah) and the Medics KNOW we ain't there for crap that we could handle ourselves... 103.4 and satting at 78-80... That sort of thing. Profusely bleeding scalp wound (scalped myself complete with exposed [thock thock] skull).
 

KFhunter

Veteran Member
I have left folks, on a stretcher...in back of med unit...in a seat in waiting room ! Mostly illegal mehicans in metro Atlanta. Knee pain, for last 3 weeks, 100.2 fever, 14th pregnancy with heartburn.....not ER worthy.

The person I was thinking of went to an ER and sat there for 8 hours in the waiting room.

Went home

Called Ambulance

respirations were fast, shallow and was tachy, spo2 was mid to low 80's
got a nebulizer, high flow 02 and transport
covid pos
now in ICU and praying not on a vent

perhaps if they'd have taken vitals in the ED waiting they'd have wheeled her in sooner, person has been in respiratory distress for quite some time.


If it's a ride worthy emergency I should have added, then perhaps you'll skip the waiting room
 

EMICT

Veteran Member
The system is breaking at a rate faster than I dreamed was possible. Local ED is losing two to three nurses a week, waits to be admitted upstairs is as long as 36 hours. Some patients are being flown over 300 miles to an open bed. Everyday seems to be a 'new normal' which is a polite term for 'clusterphuck'. I can't see this lasting more than another 30 to 45 days without a total collapse of the system, as it is rapidly collapsing now.
 
The system is breaking at a rate faster than I dreamed was possible. Local ED is losing two to three nurses a week, waits to be admitted upstairs is as long as 36 hours. Some patients are being flown over 300 miles to an open bed. Everyday seems to be a 'new normal' which is a polite term for 'clusterphuck'. I can't see this lasting more than another 30 to 45 days without a total collapse of the system, as it is rapidly collapsing now.
So in other words we are now becoming a third world nation.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
I can't see this lasting more than another 30 to 45 days without a total collapse of the system, as it is rapidly collapsing now.

And now getting into the real cold and flu season and most of the medical professionals have been vaccinated and have a compromised immune system.....how many of them in that weakened and stressed state being in inclosed spaces with Covid patients are going to get a full blown case themselves?

Being and staying healthy in the days to come will be worth it's weight in gold and probably a lot more. I do like gold and silver but I'd rather have my health as you can't put a price on that!!
 

West

Senior
The piss poor service and rip-off cost of our medical systems is directly caused by government mandate and o-care. Also by a government mandating billing system. And other government safety nets like Medicare and alike. Socialism is directly responsible!

This needs to be screamed on the roof tops! Many dumb arses, will blame capitalism.
 

pinkelsteinsmom

Veteran Member
No worries, this is the nations "near death experience" we have to go through so he can return. :fgr: Heard DJT talk about his phizer chot, he's eager to get the booster. Looks really rested and unconcerned, playing golf, having great medical care and big bucks, he's living his best life. Personally, I think he is loving what is happening, it vindicates the way he was treated, he has lost perspective on what is happening to the little people that loved and supported him.

Where is the little pence, I hope vented and gasping. I truly thought T would come back, had a plan, I was very wrong.

You do understand we are talking about coov deaths here but the larger mass death is and will continue to be all other conditions not being treated.

Let me add J&J is now in the spotlight:


J&J Vaccine Possibly Linked To Two More Serious Health Conditions, EU Regulator Finds
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by Tyler Durden
Sunday, Oct 03, 2021 - 08:10 AM
Authored by Ivan Pentchoukov via The Epoch Times,
The European Union’s drug regulator on Oct. 1 recommended updating the label for Johnson & Johnson’s COVID-19 vaccine with warnings for two more serious health conditions likely linked with the vaccine.

The European Medicines Agency’s Pharmacovigilance Risk Assessment Committee (PRAC) concluded that the use of the J&J vaccine is possibly linked with vein clotting and an immune condition that causes the immune system to attack blood platelets.
“The PRAC has concluded that there is a possible link to rare cases of venous thromboembolism (VTE) with COVID-19 Vaccine Janssen,” the committee meeting highlights stated.
Venous thromboembolism “is a condition in which a blood clot forms in a deep vein, usually in a leg, arm, or groin, and may travel to the lungs causing a blockage of the blood supply, with possible life-threatening consequences,” the committee said.
Janssen, a J&J company, did not respond to a request for comment.
After reviewing new evidence, PRAC concluded that there is a “reasonable possibility” that the clotting condition is linked with vaccination using the J&J vaccine. The committee recommended listing venous thromboembolism as a rare side effect in the product information for the J&J vaccine.
The committee also found that the use of the J&J and the AstraZeneca vaccines is linked to an immune condition that causes the body’s immune system to target healthy platelets needed for normal blood clotting.
“Very low levels of blood platelets can be associated with bleeding, and have serious health consequences,” the committee said.
PRAC recommended listing the immune condition as an “adverse reaction with an unknown frequency” for both the J&J and the AstraZeneca vaccines.
The regulator agreed to send warning statements directly to health care practitioners regarding both the clotting and the immune condition.
The communications about the immune thrombocytopenia (ITP) mentions that cases of the condition have been reported in the first four weeks after vaccination and “included serious cases with very low platelet counts.”
“If an individual has a history of ITP, healthcare professionals should consider the risk of developing low platelet levels prior to administering the vaccine. In individuals with a history of ITP, it is recommended to monitor platelet levels following vaccination with COVID-19 Vaccine Janssen,” the direct communication to doctors stated.
The message to doctors regarding venous thromboembolism (VTE) noted that instances of the condition were rare, but that the risk of the condition should be considered for those with increased risk factors for blood clots. The message also noted that patients presenting with one of the two conditions should be checked for the other.
“This is important, to assess a potential diagnosis of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS), which requires specialized clinical management,” the communication said.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) authorized the J&J vaccine for emergency use on Feb. 27, 2021.
Less than two months later, on April 23, the FDA amended the authorization to include information “about a very rare and serious type of blood clot in people who receive the vaccine.” The clotting condition in that case was separate from the one flagged by the European regulator on Oct. 1.
The FDA did not respond to a request for comment.

 

helen

Panic Sex Lady
I have basic first aid training that just stabilizes the patient until real health care arrives. EMT school here takes about 8 months. Is there a way to get higher level training quickly?
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
Probably not. There is a LOT to learn just to be an EMT. Even an eight-month training would be really intense.

Kathleen

ETA: That was in response to Helen's question just above. Don't know what happened to the quote.
 

colonel holman

Veteran Member
So in other words we are now becoming a third world nation.
We are, indeed, arriving at the station.

Cannot believe MSM has not yet set about screaming about it, so they apparently need the crisis to blossom a bit more.

The plan was to allow so thorough a collapse that the public would demand govt takeover of healthcare system, a la Great Britain on its worse days
 

KFhunter

Veteran Member
Yup, and the real learning is after schools out, and your in the back of an ambulance in a major craphole metropolitan area.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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The system is breaking at a rate faster than I dreamed was possible. Local ED is losing two to three nurses a week, waits to be admitted upstairs is as long as 36 hours. Some patients are being flown over 300 miles to an open bed. Everyday seems to be a 'new normal' which is a polite term for 'clusterphuck'. I can't see this lasting more than another 30 to 45 days without a total collapse of the system, as it is rapidly collapsing now.
Unfortunately I agree. Just what the Communists in power here want to happen.
 
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