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Oh come on! Obama broke that glass ceiling. It doesn't matter where anyone is born anymore! Facts are unimportant.
Make way for Nancy!Jamaican law is clear, at the time of her birth she was automatically a Jamaican citizen through her father no matter where she's born..
I'm quite sure she's been double-tapped repeatedly.doubletap again
Was she born in the US? Then she’s a US citizen (with very few well defined exceptions that don’t apply here)
Legally speaking, the assertion in the OP is correct. These days however, simply being born in the US is considered sufficient. That raises the specter of a Chinese person, born here then taken back to China, could run for the office.
Um, no. Kameltoe didn't “stick.” She dropped out before the first round of voting. Yet, here she is, one dead brain cell from the Oval Office.Democrats don't vet anyone, they just throw crap on the wall and if it sticks, that's their candidate.
Yup. I’m just going to start moving these threads. This conversation will now rise weekly, I’m betting.Amazing! Not this shit again
This whole birther garbage needs to go away. It’s pointless and counter productive.
The Almighty Supreme Court rule on something IMPORTANT!!! Now that is a Hoot! THEY stole the election. THEY can do anything they want, SHE, will be the next President...Yes, I know there were other issues, but if it could have been proved he was board overseas, then the Supreme Court would probably have had to rule on it.
Democrats don't vet anyone, they just throw crap on the wall and if it sticks, that's their candidate.
The OP is wrong.....if Kameltoe was born in the US....then she is automatically a US citizen and thus a "Natural Born" US citizen and eligible to serve as POTUS. Doesn't matter that her parents were or were not US citizens. At least not the way the law is written now.
No
It needs to be elevated on the national stage to a loud roar.
Just like all the crap they threw at Trump.
Got 1A?
Even if it makes conservatives look stupid and drives a lot of voters to the other side???
Yeah, that's a sure recipe for winning an election (NOT), but who cares if it makes a few emotional people feel good.
Face it. 75% of the people in the US are convinced that being a citizen at birth should meet the requirement for being President. Whether it was interpreted that way or not back in the 1700s doesn't mean a damn to most people, because being a citizen at birth is what "natural born" means to most people today.
Spend all your time fixated on a non issue and lose more elections.
Harris has got so many other things wrong with her that fixating on that issue is counter-productive.
I completely disagree. The citizenship issue is EXACTLY like the 9-11 “truther” movement. No new facts ever come out, but they rehash the same crap over and over and over and....No
It needs to be elevated on the national stage to a loud roar.
Just like all the crap they threw at Trump.
Got 1A?
The commies are winning by continually spouting their inane crap.
It works.
Agreed, by the "current" definition. That's why this crap gets so old.That Birth Certificate (if it's real) says that she was born in Berkeley, California.....thus, she IS a natural born American, whether you like it or not. It is what it is.
This whole birther garbage needs to go away. It’s pointless and counter productive.
No
It needs to be elevated on the national stage to a loud roar.
Got 1A?
"Camel nose under the tent" comes to mind.Even if it makes conservatives look stupid and drives a lot of voters to the other side???
Yeah, that's a sure recipe for winning an election (NOT), but who cares if it makes a few emotional people feel good.
Face it. 75% of the people in the US are convinced that being a citizen at birth should meet the requirement for being President. Whether it was interpreted that way or not back in the 1700s doesn't mean a damn to most people, because being a citizen at birth is what "natural born" means to most people today.
Spend all your time fixated on a non issue and lose more elections.
Harris has got so many other things wrong with her that fixating on that issue is counter-productive.
They are really setting a precedent for Arnold becoming president...
Perhaps I overlooked it - when did we **legally** modify our Constitution to allow those that are born here, while their parent(s) are NOT U.S. citizens, to become eligible for the office of President - must of missed it - care to enlighten?Agreed, by the "current" definition. That's why this crap gets so old.
It's not like this hasn't come up, been discussed and argued before with Obama.
This is the first time that I've heard that BOTH parents themselves need to be Natural Born Citizens. Does anybody remember this coming up during the pre-Obama days? Was there any proof offered?
Most people myself included after the Obama crap are of the opinion that a natural born citizen simply means Born on US territory, not born elsewhere and Naturalized and has nothing to do with two parents, anchor babies etc etc.
What do you think of Guns-N-Moses' above thread posting, and does it constitute opinion?I've seen no facts posted here that would change what I consider the widely accepted interpretation. Certainly none of the posters here have offered up any in this thread.
I'm waiting and more than willing to change my mind, but the information presented here so far appears to personal opinions not facts.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda.Perhaps I overlooked it - when did we **legally** modify our Constitution to allow those that are born here, while their parent(s) are NOT U.S. citizens, to become eligible for the office of President - must of missed it - care to enlighten?
The point is that these issues have been on-going since before I worked at the US Attorney's office and had to deal with ih the legal status of foreign-born applicants for jobs that required a Federal Security Clearance.The Almighty Supreme Court rule on something IMPORTANT!!! Now that is a Hoot! THEY stole the election. THEY can do anything they want, SHE, will be the next President...
And still, who the hell really knows where Satoro was born.
Yes this very point was discussed - here, and elsewhere.
What "proof" are you looking for, specifically?
The primary issue, as both you and TerryK have presented it - people's opinions are what counts - and are what should be paid attention to, correct?
What do you think of Guns-N-Moses' above thread posting, and does it constitute opinion?
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I think Guns-N-Moses is posting his own personal beliefs, what HE and OTHERS WANT to see happen.
Acceptable proof would be either the text of the original statute and/or Federal Case law (with Citation) in which this very topic of two parents being natural born is valid and affirmed by the court. Just a citation is enough, I can search.
So close, no matter how farNothing matters anymore.