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jward

passin' thru
Ok, because of the comorbidity in the deaths, and lack of person to person spreading, outside of China, they're not considering criteria met, sounds like..
 

Red Baron

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World health Organization (WHO)

Other than being another Third World Debating Society, what does WHO actually do and what resources do they have to combat the virus?
 

TxGal

Day by day

northern watch

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W. B. Yeats‏ @WBYeats1865 24m24 minutes ago

W. B. Yeats Retweeted LIFETIME 視界

#China This is one of the most disturbing news reports about #WuhanPneumonia: "Central Theater Command assists Wuhan lockdown" CCP Central Military Commission has ordered Central Command to assist the Wuhan lockdown in response to social instability due to panic emotions

W. B. Yeats‏ @WBYeats1865 24m24 minutes ago

The soldiers were equipped with biological protective gear and they vowed to win the campaign with high morale. To make Chairman Xi at ease, the soldiers are not afraid of hardships or even death and they will finish the lockdown task with a strong will

W. B. Yeats‏ @WBYeats1865 23m23 minutes ago

Motorized equipment will be put to use. Dongfeng EQ2050 armoured vehicle, armoured personnel carriers and light tanks were all put to use to defend the roadblocks.[3/3]
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Ok, because of the comorbidity in the deaths, and lack of person to person spreading, outside of China, they're not considering criteria met, sounds like..
I could be wrong and someone please correct me if I am, but I think that the binary part is that one person who caught it in Wuhan has given it to another person. That is binary and limited Human to Human. (HTH). If the second person who caught it from the Wuhan case then gives it to a third person, who was not in contact with the first person, that is what they are looking for to declare it, as then it's a much more serious HTH.
 

Pinecone

Has No Life - Lives on TB
We didn't have one already????

How do we know there's one positive in Washington State????
I think there is a difference in a test and having to check the DNA sequencing at the CDC, which is what I think they did for the Seattle case. That takes a lot more time and special equipment. A test would be available to doctors in any hospital.
 

northern watch

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Eunice Yoon‏Verified account @onlyyoontv 1m1 minute ago

Total confirmed cases: 653 Deaths: 18. (Mainland China: 639 Taiwan: 1 Macau: 2 Hong Kong: 2 Vietnam: 2 Thailand: 3 Singapore: 1 Japan: 1 South Korea: 1 US: 1). According to #China state media.
 

Trivium Pursuit

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Super shedders...let's do some math. IIRC, 300,000 people left Wuhan by train as of 2 days ago. Cases were detected in Wuhan 23 days ago. Therefore: if one-tenth of 1% of the people on those trains is a carrier, that's 300 vectors out in the wild. And if one 1% of carriers are 'super shedders', that means there could be 3 super shedders on the loose. Yes, I pulled those numbers out of thin air, but suspect they are not altogether unreasonable. Thoughts? I'm thinking if one super shedder infected 14, that means there will soon be 42 cases popping up, just from these 3 super shedders.. In remote places that are utterly unprepared for quarantines or posessing detection kits, etc....
 

jward

passin' thru
i want to bring this fact fwd, harsh as it, for future reference...


Flu Taking a Toll, Pediatric Deaths Hit 17-Year High

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Share on PinterestThe flu is still spreading as we near peak flu season. Getty Images
  • Northern and western states are now being hit hard.
  • Currently the influenza B strain is appearing most often around the country.
  • The CDC announced high numbers of pediatric deaths related to the flu.
The United States may be gearing up for one of the worst flu seasons in years, health experts predict.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reported Friday that there have been 32 pediatric deaths so far this season. That’s the most flu-related deaths we’ve seen in children since the CDC started tracking flu numbers 17 years ago.
That’s the most flu-related deaths we’ve seen at this point in the season in years, though that’s largely due to the earlier start we got this year. (To put this into perspective, at this time last year, there had only been 16 pediatric deaths.)
Most of the pediatric deaths have been linked to influenza B — a strain young children are particularly susceptible to. Now, influenza A appears to be gaining momentum, upping the risk that this flu season will be even more severe than expected.
In total, there have been at least 9.7 million cases of the flu, at least 87,000 flu-related hospitalization, and up to 12,000 deaths, according to the CDC.
Forty-six states plus Puerto Rico are currently experiencing widespread flu activity, though the type of strain and incidence vary from region to region.
“Since mid-December, influenza activity has really ramped up,” said Marie-Louise Landry, MD, a Yale Medicine infectious disease expert and the director of the Yale Clinical Virology Laboratory. “All four influenza strains are circulating, but so far A/H1 and B/Victoria have been more common.”

The vaccine isn’t perfect, but it helps

The flu vaccine is never perfect — flu strains mutate and change each and every year, so it’s impossible for the vaccine to successfully target every flu variation.
Experts are also seeing more influenza B/Victoria cases than we typically do — a strain that’s not comprehensively covered by this year’s vaccine.
“While early in the season, all the circulating strains of influenza A/pdmH1 and influenza B/Yamagata tested so far have been similar to the strains in the vaccine, but 58 percent of influenza B/Victoria strains and only 34 percent of influenza A/H3 tested matched the vaccine strains,” Dr. Landry told Healthline.
Health officials are still working on those estimates, too, so they’ll likely change a bit as the season progresses.
“Ideally, this number should be as high as possible, but often with influenza the virus may genetically drift away from an exact match with the virus,” said Amesh Adalja, MD, an infectious disease physician and senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins University Center for Health Security.
Because the vaccine seemed to miss the mark a bit with the most predominant strain (B/Victoria), the United States might see more people continue to come down with this type of flu.
That said, even if you do contract one of these strains, the vaccine will reduce the length and severity of your symptoms.




Certain strains are worse in certain areas

All four strains (A, B, C, and D) are currently circulating, but different strains seem to be striking more in various parts of the country.
In general, B and A strains cause a similar illness: fatigue, cough, sore throat, body aches, chills, and fever.
A study from 2014 found that adults with influenza A or B had the same length hospital stays and comparable rates of death and intensive care admission.
However, B/Victoria — the predominant strain we’re seeing in the U.S. — is thought to cause a more severe illness in children. In fact, a 2016 study found that influenza B was more likely to cause death in children ages 16 and younger.
“On a national level, influenza B is outnumbering influenza A which is unusual, but the predominant virus may vary with the region of the country, the age of the patient, and whether the person was sick enough to be admitted to a hospital,” Landry said.
B strains are dominating in Southern states, including Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, and Georgia. The region between Virginia and Pennsylvania is also seeing more illnesses linked back to B strains.
But other areas — such as the Carolinas and the Northeast — are seeing more of the A strain.
Certain Midwestern states, including Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, and Indiana, are reporting more A strain cases as well.


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Expect flu activity to continue increasing

According to Dr. Adalja, the worst of the flu season may still be on the way.
“I expect that flu will continue to rise in activity as we have not reached a peak yet,” Adalja said, adding that he suspects flu season will peak earlier than usual this year given the accelerated rate seen so far.
Flu season typically peaks in February, but health officials say it’ll likely peak sometime between December and February. (There’s a 40 percent chanceTrusted Source it’s already peaked, and a 35 percent chance it’ll peak in January.)
People who haven’t yet been vaccinated should make it a priority to do so now.
“It’s not too late to get vaccinated as we have many more weeks of flu season left to go. Flu vaccination is always the best way to prevent flu and its potentially serious complications,” the CDC emailed in a statement, noting that a vaccination location can be found at www.vaccinefinder.org.



 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Did y'all say this starts with a sinus issue? Just asking because my FB, etc., is suddenly blowing up with reports of sinus infections and head colds coming on.
 

Shroom

Contributing Member
so is this big or not? how long do you think it will take, before we know if this will turn into something we should really worry about, as opposed to just worrying about the flue.

this medical stuff confusses me sometimes,
 

jward

passin' thru
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northern watch

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Jack Posobiec ‏Verified account @JackPosobiec now52 seconds ago

Advisers to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) are concerned that Chinese health officials have still not released basic epidemiological data about the Wuhan virus outbreak
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
The Chinese think it is big enough to cancel the celebrations for their ONLY holiday and their major celebration of it that only happens every 12 years (the Year of The Rat is Year One in the cycle).

That is almost unheard of since many millions have already traveled for the holiday canceling the festivities as far away as Bejing suggests they are worried about person-to-person transmissions.

I suspect that WHO declaration that it hadn't spread person to person outside of China is going to be one of those headlines that go down in history with "Peace for Our Time" or the guy that said there would absolutely be no personal computers as they were not needed.
 

samus79

Veteran Member
The Chinese think it is big enough to cancel the celebrations for their ONLY holiday and their major celebration of it that only happens every 12 years (the Year of The Rat is Year One in the cycle).

That is almost unheard of since many millions have already traveled for the holiday canceling the festivities as far away as Bejing suggests they are worried about person-to-person transmissions.

I suspect that WHO declaration that it hadn't spread person to person outside of China is going to be one of those headlines that go down in history with "Peace for Our Time" or the guy that said there would absolutely be no personal computers as they were not needed.

My girlfriend says she can’t ever remember Chinese New Year being cancelled for any reason (she’s 47), this is a huge deal. They are even cancelling the local Chinese New Years here in our area...
 
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