bw
Fringe Ranger
The medical staff are taking the best tack under the circumstances, and anyone who isn't already infected probably isn't going to GET infected. Pain in the butt for all concerned.
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The medical staff are taking the best tack under the circumstances, and anyone who isn't already infected probably isn't going to GET infected. Pain in the butt for all concerned.
jward
passin' thru
China Daily
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The first cabin hospital converted from an exhibition center in epidemic-hit #Wuhan began accepting patients on Wednesday. The hospital can provide about 1,600 beds to infected patients with mild symptoms. #coronavirus
Milkweed Host
Veteran Member
Email sent out today by the VA.
https://www.publichealth.va.gov/n-coronavirus/index.asp
What you should know
VA is working closely with The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and other federal partners, monitoring an outbreak of Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) first identified in Wuhan, Hubei Province, China. Cases have been identified in the United States* and other international locations.* This new strain belongs to a group of viruses called coronavirus which can cause symptoms like fever, cough and shortness of breath.
VA has activated its emergency management coordination cell (EMCC) and is implementing an aggressive and collaborative public health response to protect and care for Veterans. At this time, no Veterans receiving care at VA have been diagnosed with 2019-nCoV. United States is actively screening everyone who has traveled in China for this new disease. Americans who come back from the part of China where the number of infections is very high are required to limit close contact with other people and report changes in their health. VA has been planning for this type of event and is prepared to protect and care for Veterans who receive their health care from VA.
What precautions to take
Currently, there is no vaccine to prevent the 2019-nCoV infection and no medication to treat it. CDC believes symptoms appear 2 to 14 days after exposure. The best way to prevent infection is to avoid exposure. These basic health measures can reduce the spread of infection.
The U.S. government has imposed travel restrictions for all non-essential travel to China. Additionally, U.S. citizens returning from the region will undergo enhanced screening procedures. Generally, foreign nationals (other than immediate family of U.S. citizens, permanent residents and flight crew) who have traveled in China within 14 days of their arrival, will be denied entry into the U.S. If you have international travel plans, review this specific guidance for travelers.*
What to do if you have symptoms
If you have both
To avoid spreading the virus to others, follow the precautions listed above.
https://www.publichealth.va.gov/n-coronavirus/index.asp
What you should know
VA is working closely with The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and other federal partners, monitoring an outbreak of Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) first identified in Wuhan, Hubei Province, China. Cases have been identified in the United States* and other international locations.* This new strain belongs to a group of viruses called coronavirus which can cause symptoms like fever, cough and shortness of breath.
VA has activated its emergency management coordination cell (EMCC) and is implementing an aggressive and collaborative public health response to protect and care for Veterans. At this time, no Veterans receiving care at VA have been diagnosed with 2019-nCoV. United States is actively screening everyone who has traveled in China for this new disease. Americans who come back from the part of China where the number of infections is very high are required to limit close contact with other people and report changes in their health. VA has been planning for this type of event and is prepared to protect and care for Veterans who receive their health care from VA.
What precautions to take
Currently, there is no vaccine to prevent the 2019-nCoV infection and no medication to treat it. CDC believes symptoms appear 2 to 14 days after exposure. The best way to prevent infection is to avoid exposure. These basic health measures can reduce the spread of infection.
- Wash your hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds. An easy way to mark the time is to hum the “Happy Birthday” song from beginning to end twice while scrubbing.
- Use an alcohol-based hand sanitizer that contains at least 60% alcohol.
- Avoid touching your eyes, nose and mouth with unwashed hands.
- Avoid close contact with people who are sick.
- Stay home when you are sick or becoming sick.
- Cover your cough or sneeze with a tissue (not your hands) and throw the tissue in the trash.
- Clean and disinfect frequently touched objects and surfaces.
- Getting a flu shot is recommended.
The U.S. government has imposed travel restrictions for all non-essential travel to China. Additionally, U.S. citizens returning from the region will undergo enhanced screening procedures. Generally, foreign nationals (other than immediate family of U.S. citizens, permanent residents and flight crew) who have traveled in China within 14 days of their arrival, will be denied entry into the U.S. If you have international travel plans, review this specific guidance for travelers.*
What to do if you have symptoms
If you have both
- symptoms of fever, cough, and shortness of breath and
- have either recently returned from China or have direct exposure to others diagnosed with 2019-nCoV.
To avoid spreading the virus to others, follow the precautions listed above.
pinkelsteinsmom
Veteran Member
The utter stupidity of such worthless antics shows the desperation....its a virus, being shed by every breath, spraying folks down with lysol is absolutely pointless.
I shudder to think of what insane Clownshow antics our affirmative action overlords come up with here to pacify the ignorant masses. I'm sure it will make the TSA look brilliant. Sheepdips at the entrance to Walmart...not a bad idea!
Jubilee on Earth
Veteran Member
I love how they keep saying there’s so much criticism toward the “Trump administration” for implementing a travel ban to/from China. As if A) other countries aren’t doing it?? And B) as if public health and keeping the virus to a minimum here doesn’t matter?
What a crock! That was the stupidest thing to watch. Grrr...
I am working on the sarcasm disclaimer for peep’s that don’t know me very well.
Flight to safety worldwide always has inflows to US but the supply issues will impact the US. I think TPTB have a desire to keep a lid on info to prevent sheeple from panicking. We are in very early innings and any hint of growing spread in Europe and or US in the next 3 weeks will blow the credit bubble into something quite unexpected.
Seeker22
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Early in this thread, Melodi talked about Salt Masks. I will be boiling my masks in heavy concentration of salt water and drying. Salt breaks the walls of the virus down where it can't do harm. It basically dessicates it; dries it up. There are several sources of Salt Mask directions online. Here is one:
New surgical mask doesn't just trap viruses, it renders them harmless
Innovative improvement on surgical masks will make them effective by empowering them to kill viruses
January 5, 2017 University of Alberta
The surgical masks people wear to stop the spread of diseases don't work well -- that isn't what they're designed for. Pathogens like influenza are transmitted in aerosol droplets when we cough or sneeze. Masks trap the droplets but the virus remains infectious. Scientists took on the challenge of improving the masks, using salt to turn them into virus killers.
more: New surgical mask doesn't just trap viruses, it renders them harmless: Innovative improvement on surgical masks will make them effective by empowering them to kill viruses
If Trump implements a travel ban, then travel bans are racist and evil. If Trump doesn't implement a travel ban, then travel bans are essential to protect the children, or minorities, or somebody. Fortunately Trump happily ignores them and does what's right and necessary for Americans first.
GammaRat
Veteran Member
Would the US Government lie to us?
According to this site, the CDC has decided to delay and obfuscate data.
2019 Novel Coronavirus(2019-nCoV) in the U.S. | CDC
The CDC is now only going to release number every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. They will give an overall total, but have decided not to give state totals.
According to this site, the CDC has decided to delay and obfuscate data.
2019 Novel Coronavirus(2019-nCoV) in the U.S. | CDC
The CDC is now only going to release number every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. They will give an overall total, but have decided not to give state totals.
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
I don't know if boiling would be a good idea?
The filter on N95 and N99 masks is made up of several layers, each one designed to trap whatever bad mojo you are trying to keep in/out. The masks degrade quickly as more moisture is accumulated in the filters, which is why the better masks have the breathing vent.
I may be wrong but boiling the mask will completely destroy the filters in the mask and drying does not work make the filters effective, again.
jward
passin' thru
Absolutely- if the government here is some how hiding a pimple on the arse of gnat, and we do NOT know about it at this point, then the fault, dear Horatio, lies squarely upon our own shoulders. This is a free society, still, the democrats be damned, and we know not only the "known knows" but would also notice those "unknown knowns." The info is available,
and we have the skill set and presumably the smarts to decipher the wheat from the chaff.
The idea of breaking patient confidentiality is alarming, too. Still. Land of the FREE. Constitution. ETC.
...MOON* (ijn the uneducated opinion o' a slip o' a woman etc etc and so on)
(* My own opinion naturally)
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jward
passin' thru
Actually you are exactly correct, according to some info we posted up thread on all the wrong info out there re: the possibility of disinfecting and reusing masks. Don't do this kids- really. just don't.
Seeker22
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Thanks- I'm off to do some more research and hopefully find some decent answers.
Ractivist
Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
That's criminal. They have to tell local populations what the threat is, and its rise. The people have a right to know so they can isolate immediately. But, given it's the CDC that bussed all the third world diseases through out the US, is anyone surprised. Pissed is warranted here. If this is true, it's gonna get ugly. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes.
What makes you think the gov knows enough to be able to falsify? I am continually astounded at the # of people on this forum who are positive the Gov knows enough to lie about it. Why would you think that?
Re: salt masks...
I plan on sewing some sort of "pocket mask", out of layers of high thread count cotton, with the "salt insert (which will be removable so after washing and sterilizing (hot dryer or direct sunlight), we can re-salt-treat inserts and reuse the whole thing.
For N95, masks, I believe the original instructions said to separate the mask layers and only salt one of them, then (presumably... I didn't read every detail) reassembling them. The point is... there is no way you are going to be able to tolerate salt saturated fabric directly on your face skin! Ever go to the seashore, and then not be able to shower for a few hours after a swim? The ocean has a lot less salt than the mask will... you're going to have to use a liner piece.
Summerthyme
I plan on sewing some sort of "pocket mask", out of layers of high thread count cotton, with the "salt insert (which will be removable so after washing and sterilizing (hot dryer or direct sunlight), we can re-salt-treat inserts and reuse the whole thing.
For N95, masks, I believe the original instructions said to separate the mask layers and only salt one of them, then (presumably... I didn't read every detail) reassembling them. The point is... there is no way you are going to be able to tolerate salt saturated fabric directly on your face skin! Ever go to the seashore, and then not be able to shower for a few hours after a swim? The ocean has a lot less salt than the mask will... you're going to have to use a liner piece.
Summerthyme
bw
Fringe Ranger
No they don't. No force can compel them. They SHOULD, if educating the people were their goal, but they don't HAVE to.
Yes, they have the right, but they don't have the power.
1911user
Veteran Member
The difference I'm thinking/hoping is simply letting time disinfect the mask. No heat, no washing, no forced drying, no soaking in anything, no forced airflow, no sun/uv exposure, just hang the used mask straps on a clothes hanger away from normal house traffic and wait 2 weeks. Would that put the virus in the household air? Is 2 weeks in open warm/dry air enough to kill any bad virus that might be on/in the mask?
edit: for clarification, this would be 3M N95 masks with the exhaust valve (to reduce moisture retained in the mask).
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North Bend fire training facility designated as coronavirus quarantine site
POSTED 7:34 AM, FEBRUARY 5, 2020, BY Q13 NEWS STAFF
Fire training academy in North Bend, Washington designated as coronavirus quarantine site
NORTH BEND, Wash. -- Starting Thursday, Washington state will have a set location to handle travelers who have been placed under quarantine and can't quarantine themselves at home.
The state Department of Health coordinated with the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to use Washington State Patrol's fire training academy off I-90 in North Bend.
Sea-Tac Airport passengers who spent time in the Hubei province in China where the outbreak started will be placed under quarantine at the facility.
People who are quarantined likely would only be there a few days before being cleared. The volume of travelers from that region of China will be very low, officials said, so it's possible this facility in North Bend won't be used at all.
This publicly-owned facility in King County has individual bedrooms with private bathrooms.
More than 500 people have died of novel coronavirus, the vast majority of them in China. The risk for people in the United States is still low.
jward
passin' thru
Yeah. I'm still thinking on your approach. It seems it should work, doesn't it? I guess the bottom line is the two prong question: What do you think your viral load was to begin with, and How willing are you to pay the price if you're wrong?
I can see lots of situations where I would opt personally for your approach. I would probably try to do my air out in sunshine, given the disinfecting benefits it provides- but- then moisture issues might increase... I just do not know. Hard sober decisions may face us though, mighten they? : (
Ractivist
Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
I think this has been posted repeatedly, hence little feed back now.
paul bunyan
Frostbite Falls, Minnesota
Hi Summer, I would suggest you reconsider this salt mask idea. What you really need is to acquire some cheap HEPA filters and cut out inserts for your previously sterilized masks. YMMV, Scotty
library lady
Veteran Member
Go to see this, just posted on Twitter. The paper hasn't been published yet.
NovelCoronaVirus
@BreakingNovel
UK researchers whose earlier estimates of higher # of virus cases turned out correct now believe there are up to 50,000 new infections a day happening in China. See 0:38 of video. #coronavirus #2019nCoV
Quote Tweet
MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis
@MRC_Outbreak· 6h
Your questions on #CoronaVirus #2019nCoV answered: @neil_ferguson on estimates, scale of the epidemic, forward projections, the role of modelling in outbreak response, informing governments, interventions, control measures & more
Watch the full video:
View: https://youtu.be/ALQTdCYGISw
NovelCoronaVirus
@BreakingNovel
UK researchers whose earlier estimates of higher # of virus cases turned out correct now believe there are up to 50,000 new infections a day happening in China. See 0:38 of video. #coronavirus #2019nCoV
Quote Tweet
MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis
@MRC_Outbreak· 6h
Your questions on #CoronaVirus #2019nCoV answered: @neil_ferguson on estimates, scale of the epidemic, forward projections, the role of modelling in outbreak response, informing governments, interventions, control measures & more
Watch the full video:
northern watch
TB Fanatic
Eunice YoonVerified account @onlyyoontv 54m54 minutes ago
Beijing city now bars caterers, individuals from organizing group gatherings, prior arrangements should be canceled or postponed, notes@chengevelyn. Rural collectives must also not organize banquets, whether for festivals, birthdays or school promotions. http://www.beijing.gov.cn/zhengce/zcjd/202002/t20200205_1625246.html …
Beijing city now bars caterers, individuals from organizing group gatherings, prior arrangements should be canceled or postponed, notes
jward
passin' thru
I see flu trackers has a section on masking- you'd likely find educated opinions there- afraid I simply couldn't offer one:
Emerg Infect Dis.: Simple Respiratory Mask - FluTrackers News and Information
Emerg Infect Dis.: Simple Respiratory Mask
flutrackers.com
Tarryn
Senior Member
Two more people tested in NYC for deadly coronavirus
Two more people tested in NYC for deadly coronavirus
By Julia Marsh and Vincent Barone
February 5, 2020 | 4:29pm
The coronavirusReuters
Two more people in New York City are being tested for the new coronavirus after recently returning from China and displaying symptoms of the deadly disease, the city announced Wednesday.
“New York City is on high alert and prepared to handle any confirmed cases of the novel coronavirus,” said Mayor Bill de Blasio in a statement. “My message to New Yorkers remains the same: if you have the travel history and are exhibiting symptoms, please see your health provider immediately.”
Both patients are under 40 years old and recently traveled from China, and mark the fourth and fifth people to be tested for the virus in the city.
Only one of the new patients has been hospitalized because “the other did not have symptoms severe enough to require hospitalization,” the city said.
The second person will nevertheless remain under “appropriate isolation precautions” and be subjected to daily monitoring from the city’s Health Department, officials said.
The arrangement, following Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines, means the person must stay at home and wash their hands often, a city Health Department spokesman said.
The person is advised not to share household items or use public transportation, among other measures, the spokesman added.
No cases have been confirmed yet in New York City. The first patient to be tested in the Big Apple came back negative on Tuesday, and a second was cleared Wednesday, officials said.
One other patient is still awaiting their results.
There have been more than 500 deaths linked to the coronavirus amid roughly 20,000 cases documented worldwide.
“We are fortunate that the test results from our first person under investigation came back negative,” said Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot in a statement, “but we expect to see more people presenting to health care facilities with symptoms of the novel coronavirus.”
Two more people tested in NYC for deadly coronavirus
By Julia Marsh and Vincent Barone
February 5, 2020 | 4:29pm
The coronavirusReuters
Two more people in New York City are being tested for the new coronavirus after recently returning from China and displaying symptoms of the deadly disease, the city announced Wednesday.
“New York City is on high alert and prepared to handle any confirmed cases of the novel coronavirus,” said Mayor Bill de Blasio in a statement. “My message to New Yorkers remains the same: if you have the travel history and are exhibiting symptoms, please see your health provider immediately.”
Both patients are under 40 years old and recently traveled from China, and mark the fourth and fifth people to be tested for the virus in the city.
Only one of the new patients has been hospitalized because “the other did not have symptoms severe enough to require hospitalization,” the city said.
The second person will nevertheless remain under “appropriate isolation precautions” and be subjected to daily monitoring from the city’s Health Department, officials said.
The arrangement, following Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidelines, means the person must stay at home and wash their hands often, a city Health Department spokesman said.
The person is advised not to share household items or use public transportation, among other measures, the spokesman added.
No cases have been confirmed yet in New York City. The first patient to be tested in the Big Apple came back negative on Tuesday, and a second was cleared Wednesday, officials said.
One other patient is still awaiting their results.
There have been more than 500 deaths linked to the coronavirus amid roughly 20,000 cases documented worldwide.
“We are fortunate that the test results from our first person under investigation came back negative,” said Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot in a statement, “but we expect to see more people presenting to health care facilities with symptoms of the novel coronavirus.”
Trivium Pursuit
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Especially serpentine belts, as someone kindly reminded me on this thread a few pages ago.
GammaRat
Veteran Member
The CDC has recently decided to limit the Coronavirus infection statistics within the United States.
I have taken the liberty to create a Whitehouse petition to require the CDC to release the information in a timely and detailed manner. Here's the link to the petition and the text of the petition. I highly recommend that you sign the petition.
Require the CDC to release data on the 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in a timely and detailed manner | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government
I've also started a new thread regarding the petition:
http://xf.timebomb2000.com/xf/index...avirus-information-in-a-timely-manner.567745/
I have taken the liberty to create a Whitehouse petition to require the CDC to release the information in a timely and detailed manner. Here's the link to the petition and the text of the petition. I highly recommend that you sign the petition.
Require the CDC to release data on the 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) in a timely and detailed manner | We the People: Your Voice in Our Government
I've also started a new thread regarding the petition:
http://xf.timebomb2000.com/xf/index...avirus-information-in-a-timely-manner.567745/
jward
passin' thru
Haven't seen this float by. : (
BBC News (World)
@BBCWorld
58s
Coronavirus: Newborn becomes youngest person diagnosed with virus
View: https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1225253298279714821?s=20
BBC News (World)
@BBCWorld
58s
Coronavirus: Newborn becomes youngest person diagnosed with virus
View: https://twitter.com/BBCWorld/status/1225253298279714821?s=20
jward
passin' thru
Hard to believe that there could be anything left on store shelves at this point...
AFP news agency
@AFP
33m
Replying to
@AFP
Panic buying and long, long worry lines. Hong Kong supermarket shelves empty of toilet paper and residents queue up in the thousands in the hope of buying face masks, only to be turned away when stocks run out
View: https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1225245954082689025?s=20
AFP news agency
@AFP
33m
Replying to
@AFP
Panic buying and long, long worry lines. Hong Kong supermarket shelves empty of toilet paper and residents queue up in the thousands in the hope of buying face masks, only to be turned away when stocks run out
View: https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1225245954082689025?s=20
jward
passin' thru
thelonevirologist
@thelonevirologi
2h
#WuhanCoronavirus #nCoV2019: 28318 confirmed cases (28082 cases in China (excl. Hongkong and Macau) & 236 cases in other countries (incl. 30 locally transmitted cases)) with a total of 565 deaths (CFR: 2%) as of 05 February per
@WHO @ProMED_mail @FluTrackers & Chinese NHC.
View: https://twitter.com/thelonevirologi/status/1225225080717926400?s=20
@thelonevirologi
2h
#WuhanCoronavirus #nCoV2019: 28318 confirmed cases (28082 cases in China (excl. Hongkong and Macau) & 236 cases in other countries (incl. 30 locally transmitted cases)) with a total of 565 deaths (CFR: 2%) as of 05 February per
@WHO @ProMED_mail @FluTrackers & Chinese NHC.
View: https://twitter.com/thelonevirologi/status/1225225080717926400?s=20
naegling62
Veteran Member
It won't be long till they quarantine the whole city, then will they lose control of the other provinces? This may become a continuity of government issue soon.
northern watch
TB Fanatic
(((Henry L Niman PhD))) @hniman 12m12 minutes ago
nCoV Confirmed In 3 Americans on Quarantined Cruise Ship Off Japan Coast More DETAIL - Coronavirus positives Japan 3 US 3 HK 2 Canada 2 Australia 1 Taiwan 1 NZ 1 Philippines
nCoV Confirmed In 3 Americans on Quarantined Cruise Ship Off Japan Coast More DETAIL - Coronavirus positives Japan 3 US 3 HK 2 Canada 2 Australia 1 Taiwan 1 NZ 1 Philippines
Scotto
Set Apart
To mask the smell of decay...
The aerosol spray may be to kill the flies that are crawling on dead bodies, then might fly out the windows and go into homes of healthy people and crawl on them, spreading the virus.
Intestinal Fortitude
Have Faith
Put in black box and set in sun......
Intestinal Fortitude
Have Faith
Vectors
This is also a tremendous after effect of nuclear war (rats, flies, et al)
bw
Fringe Ranger
They've got 90M under quarantine now. Beijing is 21M. No problem.
Freeholder
This too shall pass.
At this time of year? I’ve seen snow in a lot of the pictures, and people are wearing big puffy jackets. I wouldn’t think flies would be an issue right now in most of China.
Kathleen