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With China’s 15 hundred million people, that number would barely be missed...
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Las' week, ma doctor an' his understudy were checkin' me o'er. Ah asked 'em 'bout th' coronavirus. Said they was ready. How? They were ready ta die and go ta Heaven. What about their families an' patients? They both shrugged. Didn't matter ta them. THEY was prepared... Hippocrates, be damned...
Make yer own judgments. Me? Thinkin' o' gettin' a new doctor...
OA
John Deere Girl
Veteran Member
Thank you, Sir! The Bible has quite a few warriors in it, with one being a man after God's own heart. My husband is a veteran and a really good Christian man, but he has made sure that our children and myself are properly trained. It's good to see you back to posting,and may God bless you and yours!
Intestinal Fortitude
Have Faith
I would guess that with China not using oil and gas, and people staying home and not driving and polluting, that Greta Thunburg is quite pleased......
JMG91
Veteran Member
^^^This. I hate that things have gotten to this point, but I find that I can't carry on a truly intimate friendship with folks who are clueless because we simply don't look at anything the same way. When it comes to stuff like this, it really does affect everything because it indicates how a person thinks. These same folks will become a danger to your family when they become desperate.
jward
passin' thru
AFP news agency
@AFP
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Chinese President Xi Jinping has called for tighter policing to protect social stability, while Beijing ordered people returning to the capital to self-quarantine for 14 days in the latest measure aimed at containing the virus http://u.afp.com/338X
@AFP
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Chinese President Xi Jinping has called for tighter policing to protect social stability, while Beijing ordered people returning to the capital to self-quarantine for 14 days in the latest measure aimed at containing the virus http://u.afp.com/338X
WanderLore
Veteran Member
Loup, I have those 2 and the one "where there is no mechanic". Excellent books
Southside
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jward
passin' thru
Chris Horton 何貴森
@heguisen
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View: https://twitter.com/heguisen/status/1228829148069548033?s=20
One of the Westerdam passengers that disembarked in Sihanoukville, Cambodia has tested positive for the coronavirus. Cambodia PM Hun Sen, age 67, personally greeted passengers there, shaking their hands. https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/
@heguisen
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View: https://twitter.com/heguisen/status/1228829148069548033?s=20
One of the Westerdam passengers that disembarked in Sihanoukville, Cambodia has tested positive for the coronavirus. Cambodia PM Hun Sen, age 67, personally greeted passengers there, shaking their hands. https://bloomberg.com/news/articles/
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Seeker22
Has No Life - Lives on TB
WHO accused of ‘delaying’ response to coronavirus outbreak to appease China
As the number of coronavirus deaths spike, the World Health Organisations has been accused of “delaying” its response for a sinister reason.
news.com.auFebruary 16, 20209:56am
The World Health Organisation (WHO) has been accused of “delaying” its response to the coronavirus outbreak in an attempt to appease China.
By the time the UN agency declared a global health emergency on January 30, the virus had already spread well beyond China.
The WHO says it first heard reports of a previously-unknown virus in Wuhan, the epicentre of the outbreak, on December 31 last year.
It’s estimated to have started in early December, but local Chinese officials sought to play down the virus so as not to attract the ire of the Chinese Communist Party.
Public health experts suspect that before the meeting on January 23, China tried to downplay the virus and urged the agency not to designate it a “public health emergency of international concern”, according to The Times. The WHO has denied influence claims.
Dr John Ashton, one of the UK’s leading public health specialists, said the WHO “failed to declare a global public health emergency in a timely way”.
It comes as the number of deaths from the coronavirus has skyrocketed to 1527, with over 67,000 infections worldwide.
66,492 of those cases are based in mainland China, with 338 in Japan, 72 in Singapore, 56 in Hong Kong and 15 in Australia.
The agency argues it didn’t declare a global emergency earlier because there was no evidence of human-to-human transmission outside China.
China is a key strategic partner of the WHO and its financial backing is important to the agency’s future — particularly after the US, its top donor, last week said it wants to cut its contribution by 53 per cent.
The WHO has also faced scrutiny for its praise of China, having hailed the country’s “extraordinary” effort to tackle the epidemic.
Economist Defence Editor Shashank Joshi tweeted a photo of the coronavirus panel at the Munich Security Conference, saying the WHO’s representative was “absolutely” gushing over China.
“I suspect praising China for their response was the best way to keep the Chinese on board.”
FIRST CORONAVIRUS DEATH IN EUROPE
Meanwhile, an 80-year-old Chinese tourist infected with the coronavirus has died in France, the first fatality in Europe and the fourth outside mainland China.
The Chinese man died at the Bichat hospital in Paris of a lung infection due to the flu-like virus, authorities said on Saturday.
“We have to get our health system ready to face a possible pandemic propagation of the virus, and therefore the spreading of the virus across France,” Health Minister Agnes Buzyn said.
British mathematical epidemiology expert Robin Thompson said that with nearly 50 cases in Europe, a death was not surprising.
“The most important thing to point out, however, is that there still hasn’t been sustained person-to-person transmission in Europe,” he said.
There have now been four coronavirus deaths outside of mainland China. Picture: NOEL CELIS / AFPSource:AFP
In China some cities remain in lockdown, streets are deserted, employees are nervous, and travel bans and quarantine orders are in place around the country.
Those returning to Beijing from the New Year holiday have been ordered to undergo a 14-day self-quarantine to prevent the spread of the virus.
Many factories are yet to re-open, disrupting supply chains for everyone from smartphone makers to car manufacturers.
World Health Organisation chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said it was impossible to tell where the epidemic will spread.
“We are concerned by the continued increase in the number of cases in China,” Tedros told the Munich Security Conference in Germany.
“We are concerned by the lack of urgency in funding the response from the international community.
“Most of all, we are concerned about the potential havoc this virus could wreak in countries with weaker health systems.”
The biggest cluster outside China has been on cruise ship the Diamond Princess, quarantined off Japan’s Yokohama.
Out of about 3700 passengers and crew on board, 285 people have tested positive and been sent to hospital.
The US said on Saturday it plans to send an aircraft to pick up American passengers and take them back home where they face another two weeks of isolation “out of an abundance of caution”.
An 83-year-old American woman from the Westerdam cruise ship, which finally docked in Cambodia on Thursday, tested positive for the coronavirus on landing in Malaysia, health authorities there said on Saturday.
US President Donald Trump thanked “beautiful” Cambodia for taking the castaway cruise ship in a rare message to a nation that has often been at odds with Washington.
In Hong Kong, which has seen months of anti-Beijing protests, hundreds marched on Saturday to demand full closure of the border with mainland China and to oppose plans to turn some buildings into quarantine hubs.
The sickness, now officially labelled Covid-19, has killed around two per cent of those infected. Cases have spread faster than other respiratory virus this century.
— with Reuters
As the number of coronavirus deaths spike, the World Health Organisations has been accused of “delaying” its response for a sinister reason.
news.com.auFebruary 16, 20209:56am
The World Health Organisation (WHO) has been accused of “delaying” its response to the coronavirus outbreak in an attempt to appease China.
By the time the UN agency declared a global health emergency on January 30, the virus had already spread well beyond China.
The WHO says it first heard reports of a previously-unknown virus in Wuhan, the epicentre of the outbreak, on December 31 last year.
It’s estimated to have started in early December, but local Chinese officials sought to play down the virus so as not to attract the ire of the Chinese Communist Party.
Public health experts suspect that before the meeting on January 23, China tried to downplay the virus and urged the agency not to designate it a “public health emergency of international concern”, according to The Times. The WHO has denied influence claims.
Dr John Ashton, one of the UK’s leading public health specialists, said the WHO “failed to declare a global public health emergency in a timely way”.
It comes as the number of deaths from the coronavirus has skyrocketed to 1527, with over 67,000 infections worldwide.
66,492 of those cases are based in mainland China, with 338 in Japan, 72 in Singapore, 56 in Hong Kong and 15 in Australia.
The agency argues it didn’t declare a global emergency earlier because there was no evidence of human-to-human transmission outside China.
China is a key strategic partner of the WHO and its financial backing is important to the agency’s future — particularly after the US, its top donor, last week said it wants to cut its contribution by 53 per cent.
The WHO has also faced scrutiny for its praise of China, having hailed the country’s “extraordinary” effort to tackle the epidemic.
Economist Defence Editor Shashank Joshi tweeted a photo of the coronavirus panel at the Munich Security Conference, saying the WHO’s representative was “absolutely” gushing over China.
According to Joshi, only one leader at the conference — Human Rights Watch Executive Director Ken Roth — was critical of China’s response to the virus.
One adviser to the WHO told The Times: “(The agency) has great difficulty in being openly critical of a member state as its only real power is persuasion.
“I suspect praising China for their response was the best way to keep the Chinese on board.”
FIRST CORONAVIRUS DEATH IN EUROPE
Meanwhile, an 80-year-old Chinese tourist infected with the coronavirus has died in France, the first fatality in Europe and the fourth outside mainland China.
The Chinese man died at the Bichat hospital in Paris of a lung infection due to the flu-like virus, authorities said on Saturday.
“We have to get our health system ready to face a possible pandemic propagation of the virus, and therefore the spreading of the virus across France,” Health Minister Agnes Buzyn said.
British mathematical epidemiology expert Robin Thompson said that with nearly 50 cases in Europe, a death was not surprising.
“The most important thing to point out, however, is that there still hasn’t been sustained person-to-person transmission in Europe,” he said.
There have now been four coronavirus deaths outside of mainland China. Picture: NOEL CELIS / AFPSource:AFP
In China some cities remain in lockdown, streets are deserted, employees are nervous, and travel bans and quarantine orders are in place around the country.
Those returning to Beijing from the New Year holiday have been ordered to undergo a 14-day self-quarantine to prevent the spread of the virus.
Many factories are yet to re-open, disrupting supply chains for everyone from smartphone makers to car manufacturers.
World Health Organisation chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said it was impossible to tell where the epidemic will spread.
“We are concerned by the continued increase in the number of cases in China,” Tedros told the Munich Security Conference in Germany.
“We are concerned by the lack of urgency in funding the response from the international community.
“Most of all, we are concerned about the potential havoc this virus could wreak in countries with weaker health systems.”
The biggest cluster outside China has been on cruise ship the Diamond Princess, quarantined off Japan’s Yokohama.
Out of about 3700 passengers and crew on board, 285 people have tested positive and been sent to hospital.
The US said on Saturday it plans to send an aircraft to pick up American passengers and take them back home where they face another two weeks of isolation “out of an abundance of caution”.
An 83-year-old American woman from the Westerdam cruise ship, which finally docked in Cambodia on Thursday, tested positive for the coronavirus on landing in Malaysia, health authorities there said on Saturday.
US President Donald Trump thanked “beautiful” Cambodia for taking the castaway cruise ship in a rare message to a nation that has often been at odds with Washington.
In Hong Kong, which has seen months of anti-Beijing protests, hundreds marched on Saturday to demand full closure of the border with mainland China and to oppose plans to turn some buildings into quarantine hubs.
The sickness, now officially labelled Covid-19, has killed around two per cent of those infected. Cases have spread faster than other respiratory virus this century.
— with Reuters
Texican
Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
The Chinese citizens are feed up with the CCP and if this does not lead to revolution in China it would lead to more and more deaths....
Texican....
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Yep... Many years ago, we wuz worried 'bout smallpox. Some estimates o' survival wuz purty low. Cain't cite sources, but somewheres I've heard a worldwide pandemic could go as low as 3%, E'en near that, tha's a wakin' nightmare... God help us...
OA
It's th' siftin' o' th' chaff from th' wheat... Separatin' the dross from th' gold n' silver... Mos' likely, it'll divide families, friends, an' nations... God ain't pleased wi' th' way things has been goin', Ah'm thinkin.' Get close ta Him... Life's Hell wi'out Jesus...
OA
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
People who are, or have relatives who are at GREATER RISK of contracting coronavirus and then infecting their whole family before they are aware they carry the disease?
LET’s think about it so we recognize and take greater precautions if we or one of our family.
I’ll list all I can think of, PLEASE ADD any I miss to the list:
HIGHER RISK WORKERS & other People:
*Health care workers, patients, and medical support staff, especially hospital and traveling home health workers.
Dentists & dental staff, and their patients
Airline stewardesses and stewards
*Nursing Home workers and patients.
Teachers, school children,
*Taxi and Uber drivers, “ride share” commuters, bus drivers,
*beauticians, barbers, prostitutes,
*mailmen, bank tellers, cashiers, bartenders, waitresses
*Police, Prisoners,
* military, Ambulance medics,
*First responders, Funeral workers
*tattoo artists and those who patronize them
Masseuses, Sports and Personal “Trainers”
Those who patronize “Gyms” & Exercise facilities
Hotel workers, especially cleaning staff
the families of above workers....
*I have one daughter who wears three hats as a Hospital head nurse/ER Triage nurse/cardiac nurse
* I have another daughter whose husband works as mechanical/electrical maintenance in a large hospital and
*my eldest daughter who, thank God, switched careers from pharmacy tech to Paramedic then to Paralegal but now works for Amazon AT HOME, for them in some kind of loss prevention and mitigation investigating.
So like most people here, there is an avenue of accessibility for corona virus to touch my life even if I try to isolate myself as much as I can as a 75 year old who has to pick up meds at the hospital and because of underlying health problems cant avoid at least a couple of doctor appointments a year.
LET’s think about it so we recognize and take greater precautions if we or one of our family.
I’ll list all I can think of, PLEASE ADD any I miss to the list:
HIGHER RISK WORKERS & other People:
*Health care workers, patients, and medical support staff, especially hospital and traveling home health workers.
Dentists & dental staff, and their patients
Airline stewardesses and stewards
*Nursing Home workers and patients.
Teachers, school children,
*Taxi and Uber drivers, “ride share” commuters, bus drivers,
*beauticians, barbers, prostitutes,
*mailmen, bank tellers, cashiers, bartenders, waitresses
*Police, Prisoners,
* military, Ambulance medics,
*First responders, Funeral workers
*tattoo artists and those who patronize them
Masseuses, Sports and Personal “Trainers”
Those who patronize “Gyms” & Exercise facilities
Hotel workers, especially cleaning staff
the families of above workers....
*I have one daughter who wears three hats as a Hospital head nurse/ER Triage nurse/cardiac nurse
* I have another daughter whose husband works as mechanical/electrical maintenance in a large hospital and
*my eldest daughter who, thank God, switched careers from pharmacy tech to Paramedic then to Paralegal but now works for Amazon AT HOME, for them in some kind of loss prevention and mitigation investigating.
So like most people here, there is an avenue of accessibility for corona virus to touch my life even if I try to isolate myself as much as I can as a 75 year old who has to pick up meds at the hospital and because of underlying health problems cant avoid at least a couple of doctor appointments a year.
jward
passin' thru
Coronavirus
Published 1 hour ago
Pentagon to extend availability of 4 military bases to help with coronavirus efforts: official
The Pentagon on Saturday said it will extend the availability of four military installations to act as temporary housing through March 15 in an effort to help the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) manage the novel coronavirus, now known as COVID-19.
Lt. Col. Chris Mitchell, a Defense Department spokesman, confirmed the move to Fox News and said the Pentagon will continue to assist HHS by providing support at the following installations: Travis Air Force Base, Calif.; Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland, Texas; Fort Carson, Colo., and Marine Corps Air Station Miramar, Calif.
The Defense Department will also provide necessary equipment for passenger and cargo handling, a facility for briefing passengers, office space for 50 HHS personnel, equipment, bedding and linens, as available, Mitchell said.
HOW DANGEROUS IS CORONAVIRUS?
Video
HHS will continue to be responsible for the care of all the evacuees, including supervision, transportation, security (including limiting the movement of the evacuees on the military installations), meals, clothing, communications, linens and laundry services, and routine or specialized medical services at the local civilian hospital, he said.
In addition, it will also take on the provision, handling and disposal of hazardous materials, and oversee the decontamination of Defense Department facilities; HHS will provide and arrange for custodial services and any necessary grounds, Mitchell explained.
No Pentagon civilian employees, military personnel or contractor personnel will be involved in these services, he said.
Defense Department personnel will not have contact with evacuees and will minimize contact with personnel supporting the quarantine and/or isolation, the Pentagon said, adding that HHS will ensure no evacuated personnel are transferred to any installation if they are infected or ill.
CLICK HERE TO GET THE FOX NEWS APP
Any evacuees who are symptomatic, or become symptomatic, will be transferred to an off-base local civilian medical facility, Mitchell added.
As of Friday, the total number of deaths from the virus stood at 1,523 globally and 66,492 confirmed cases in China, according to the country's National Health Commission.
www.foxnews.com
Published 1 hour ago
Pentagon to extend availability of 4 military bases to help with coronavirus efforts: official
The Pentagon on Saturday said it will extend the availability of four military installations to act as temporary housing through March 15 in an effort to help the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) manage the novel coronavirus, now known as COVID-19.
Lt. Col. Chris Mitchell, a Defense Department spokesman, confirmed the move to Fox News and said the Pentagon will continue to assist HHS by providing support at the following installations: Travis Air Force Base, Calif.; Joint Base San Antonio-Lackland, Texas; Fort Carson, Colo., and Marine Corps Air Station Miramar, Calif.
The Defense Department will also provide necessary equipment for passenger and cargo handling, a facility for briefing passengers, office space for 50 HHS personnel, equipment, bedding and linens, as available, Mitchell said.
HOW DANGEROUS IS CORONAVIRUS?
VideoHHS will continue to be responsible for the care of all the evacuees, including supervision, transportation, security (including limiting the movement of the evacuees on the military installations), meals, clothing, communications, linens and laundry services, and routine or specialized medical services at the local civilian hospital, he said.
In addition, it will also take on the provision, handling and disposal of hazardous materials, and oversee the decontamination of Defense Department facilities; HHS will provide and arrange for custodial services and any necessary grounds, Mitchell explained.
No Pentagon civilian employees, military personnel or contractor personnel will be involved in these services, he said.
Defense Department personnel will not have contact with evacuees and will minimize contact with personnel supporting the quarantine and/or isolation, the Pentagon said, adding that HHS will ensure no evacuated personnel are transferred to any installation if they are infected or ill.
CLICK HERE TO GET THE FOX NEWS APP
Any evacuees who are symptomatic, or become symptomatic, will be transferred to an off-base local civilian medical facility, Mitchell added.
As of Friday, the total number of deaths from the virus stood at 1,523 globally and 66,492 confirmed cases in China, according to the country's National Health Commission.
Pentagon to extend availability of 4 military bases to help with coronavirus efforts: official
The Pentagon made four military bases available to act as temporary housing on Saturday, in an effort to help the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) manage the novel coronavirus (COVID-19).
www.foxnews.com
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raven
TB Fanatic
if the number of lights in windows comes anywhere near the actual survival rate, we are so screwed
Profit of Doom
Dismember
I believe self-isolation would be a better fit.
Esto Perpetua
Veteran Member
I haaaaate touching strangers. Blecch!
Seeker22
Has No Life - Lives on TB
An army fights on its stomach. The leaders and military at the top have for years been saying that they are training for the long game. To wipe us out and/or take us over. Since it is GSM time and their empire is about shot anyway, let it fall. Don't import a thing. No food, no meds, no tech- nothing. They have stolen us blind and were doing it with trade until steps were taken to rein that in. They rebuffed us thrice and won't let us help with the virus. They are causing untold harm by not telling us what they know about the virus to save the time of reverse engineering it. So be it.
They need to bring their population numbers down. The virus is doing that. Less mouths to feed means that if they can get some imported food, or manage to grow some, they might squeak through. If, and it is a BIG if, the virus doesn't jump to the bird or animal populations used for food. Once it is known that China released this plague on the world, who will give them any imports, especially food? China will never again be the world power it was in November 2019. Wuhan has fallen.
This virus is the Great Equalizer. Even at this late date, the Chinese people need to Stand Up. Throw off the chains and make China what it truly needs to be. Leave communism in the icy mud of another age. Like Snoopy Zen says- just let that $hit go. The people are the soul of China. They can farm and grow food right up to the time snow flies. These people are strong enough to come through this, and they will remember and never again let communism gain a foothold.
That is what I dream. I fear my reality will be much different in the coming days.
How bad will the industrial shutdown hurt them? How bad will it hurt us? The GSM is here. When machinery won't run because it is too cold or the storms blow the roof off- both of us are going to be in the same fix. Our countries can fight about it but it won't change the weather. We will both have the virus to contend with. Do we really want to contend with nuclear fallout, too?
They can try to bully food and supplies out of us, but I don't think Trump will stand for that. If Trump is who people believe he is, we will spool up factories within the next couple of months and take back our manufacturing. We should have never let it leave our shores.
Craftypatches
Veteran Member
Woman has been tested twice in Nebraska and no sign of it. Will go back to Camp Ashland.
Intestinal Fortitude
Have Faith
maybe the lights are off because it is very late and everyone is asleep..........except for where the lights are staying on and not being turned off......
WanderLore
Veteran Member
I'm still trying to read and catch up while I'm doing the nest thing too. All I can add is "OP SEC in your AO"
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
The link gives four scenarios. nuff said.
www.zerohedge.com
The Four Coronavirus Scenarios: The Bad; The Worse; The Ugly; And The Unthinkable
by Tyler Durden
Sat, 02/15/2020 - 15:55
Submitted by Michael Every of Rabobank
Summary
Financial markets have been on a roller-coaster ride since the Novel coronavirus Covid-19 stole the headlines – albeit mainly on the ascent phase (bar today’s reaction) of the ride so far in terms of equities at least. At this stage, it’s still too early to tell whether or not Covid-19 is ‘under control’ or not. Especially given that the most surge in cases (due to a new counting methodology) shows that we don’t really know the actual number of infected cases (Figure 1).
Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
The Four Coronavirus Scenarios: The Bad; The Worse; The Ugly; And The Unthinkable
by Tyler Durden
Sat, 02/15/2020 - 15:55
Submitted by Michael Every of Rabobank
Summary
- The Covid-19 coronavirus could be more disruptive than markets are currently pricing in. Not in the least because the ‘true’ number of infected people remains uncertain, as the recent surge in cases exemplifies
- We outline four scenarios in which the virus increasingly becomes severe: The Bad; The Worse; The Ugly; and The Unthinkable
- We provide rough estimates for China’s growth trajectory in these scenarios although we stress that these are not our official forecasts since we are still working out the details
- The three main channels through which Covid-19 will affect the global economy are tourism, net exports, and intermediate goods
- In the ‘Bad’ scenario the virus outbreak does not last far beyond Q1. China’s GDP growth for 2020 could drop to below 5%, with production taking the biggest hit and a catch up in Q3 and Q4. This is our base case scenario, although with the recent surge in mind, the second scenario is becoming increasingly likely
- In the ‘Worse’ scenario, the virus outbreak lasts beyond Q1. In that case China’s GDP growth could end up below 4% in 2020
- In this scenario, next to China, Asia will bear the brunt of the prolonged outbreak due to its dependence on Chinas as an export market and intermediate imports as well as for tourism
- In China itself, defaults of non-financial corporates in China could start to rise rapidly
- This will lead to a decline in China’s long-term growth potential as private companies will suffer most, while less efficient SOEs will likely be bailed out. As a result, debt levels will balloon further, leaving China more vulnerable in the future
- There will also be downwards pressure on the Chinese currency as extra CNY liquidity is made available
- In the Ugly scenario, the virus spreads beyond China, and spreads to Asia as well as developed economies. Its effects will likely resemble the Global Financial Crisis of 2008/2009 more than the SARS outbreak in 2003
- The Unthinkable scenario is a far left tail scenario, in which the virus mutates and becomes a truly global pandemic
Financial markets have been on a roller-coaster ride since the Novel coronavirus Covid-19 stole the headlines – albeit mainly on the ascent phase (bar today’s reaction) of the ride so far in terms of equities at least. At this stage, it’s still too early to tell whether or not Covid-19 is ‘under control’ or not. Especially given that the most surge in cases (due to a new counting methodology) shows that we don’t really know the actual number of infected cases (Figure 1).
Intestinal Fortitude
Have Faith
and let them rebuild like the Neandertals did!!!
raven
TB Fanatic
You're probably right, that's why someone would post that picture.
EMICT
Veteran Member
How many mechanics would be willing to work on your ole' pickup truck if they knew that every time they turned a wrench there would be a 50/50 chance of the vehicle blowing the roof and doors off of their shop... them long with it?
Medical personnel are just 'human' mechanics... nothing more, nothing less.
Martinhouse
Deceased
Earlier someone posted that if you haven't stocked up on coffee yet, you need to do so before this virus hits South America.
I'm not sure how long it's been so, but coffee is grown in other parts of the world now, too, and I remember hearing that one of those places is Myanmar. Don't know about Thailand, Malaysia or other countries in that part of the world, but it wouldn't hurt to check before stocking up if you thinks it's a serious consideration.
I'm not sure how long it's been so, but coffee is grown in other parts of the world now, too, and I remember hearing that one of those places is Myanmar. Don't know about Thailand, Malaysia or other countries in that part of the world, but it wouldn't hurt to check before stocking up if you thinks it's a serious consideration.
and let them rebuild like the Neandertals did!!!
Got any assurance tha' there'll be any "Neandertals" left? Din' know we had any... Howsomever, right now, I'll take door #4, Alex...
OA
EMICT
Veteran Member
Don't tell me we're going to have to go back to chicory coffee...
jward
passin' thru
Corona virus (2019-nCoV/COVID-19) watcher
@2019nCoVwatcher
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NEW: South Korea reports a new case of #coronavirus: 'The Korea Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (KCDC) said the latest case involves an 82-year-old South Korean man who had no record of overseas travel.'
View: https://twitter.com/2019nCoVwatcher/status/1228851108791058433?s=20
jward
passin' thru
jes how old are ya lol? "we" ain't had to do that for decadesDon't tell me we're going to have to go back to chicory coffee...
Zoner
Veteran Member
Yer right, EMICT. Howsomever, ah'd been more understandin', if'n they'd explained that...
OA
jes how old are ya lol? "we" ain't had to do that for decades
Down ta New Oleans, it's quite common...
OA
223shootersc
Veteran Member
Wow, just wow...
Freeholder
This too shall pass.
This is the incident I was referring to in an earlier post. Sure hope their PM doesn’t catch the virus. They will really be regretting letting the Westerdam stop there if he does.
Kathleen