Misc/Chat May 2020 Planting and Gardening Chat Thread

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.

May 2020

1st - 3rd
A barren period. Favorable for killing plant pests, cultivating, or taking a short vacation.
4th - 5th
Favorable time for sowing hay, fodder crops, and grains. Plant flowers. Excellent time for planting corn, beans, peppers, and other above ground crops.
6th - 7th
Plant seedbeds. First day is excellent for planting above ground crops, and planting leafy vegetables. Second day is a good day for transplanting. Second day is also when to plant carrots, beets, onions, turnips, and other root crops. Also good for leafy vegetables
8th - 9th
Seeds planted now will do poorly and yield little.
10th - 11th
Plant late beets, potatoes, onions, carrots, and other root crops.
12th - 13th
Kill plant pests on these barren days.
14th - 16th
Fine for vine crops. Set strawberry plants. Good days for transplanting. Favorable time for planting late root crops.
17th - 18th
Poor planting. Fine for cultivating or spraying.
19th - 21st
Good days for transplanting. Root crops that can be planted now will yield well.
22nd - 23rd
Any seed planted now will tend to rot.
24th - 26th
Plant seedbeds and flower gardens. Most favorable for corn, cotton, okra, beans, peppers, eggplant, and other above ground crops.
27th - 30th
A barren period. Favorable for killing plant pests, cultivating, or taking a short vacation.
 

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
Packy, thank you...I'm really holding back because I know it's still too cold out - but all my starts are starting to get long in the tooth. I just keep repotting up. But when it gets warm out, with all the long days ahead, it'll be worth the wait :) The good news is that the last of the snow was gone this morning!

Cardinal: I had great success with elderberries and both black and red currants, at the old place....blueberries, no luck though I tried and tried. Raspberries...you can't kill em! ;)
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
If y'all are having issues with cats in your garden you can get these cat repellant mats at Amazon or maybe even a local store, someone said on FB they got theirs at their local dollar store.

 

Martinhouse

Deceased
I've got my blueberries in containers made from 55 gallon plastic barrels cut in half. They seem to be doing well.

If you plant cane berries in containers, you'll need to find a new spot for them by early next spring. (Or more containers) This year's canes will die at the end of the season, but you'll get anywhere from one to as much as five or six new shoots from the roots and they need more room to spread than a container will give them. And cane berries SPREAD! You can usually keep them confined to a row if you be sure to keep the old canes cut out in the fall. I always let the row take up at least three feet of width. Any wider than than makes a thicket that's hard to pick. You can dig up the shoots and move them in the spring, to make a nicer row, but it should be done before they get very high or the new top growth will dry up and die.
 

lonestar09

Veteran Member
Wow I wish I could be plantimg potatoes and onions here right now. Normally potatoes go in the week between Christmas and New Years here. Onions are planted in September and are currently being harvested. This is in deep south Texas. But I am going to be doing experiments here with several different vegetables. I will say I do have 3 pineapples coming up this year have to build a cage to cover them to keep the opossums from eating them.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Wow I wish I could be plantimg potatoes and onions here right now. Normally potatoes go in the week between Christmas and New Years here. Onions are planted in September and are currently being harvested. This is in deep south Texas. But I am going to be doing experiments here with several different vegetables. I will say I do have 3 pineapples coming up this year have to build a cage to cover them to keep the opossums from eating them.

Are you able to grow tomatoes and peppers where you’re at?
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I went to the garden/flower tent at the mall this afternoon, that place has been slammed! I got the last oregano plant for $4.99, everything else was gone in the herbs section except for a few sickly-looking dill plants and some thai basil. The tomatoes were mostly gone as well. People are definitely buying up the garden plants and seeds this year.

Saw a woman at the hardware store come out with a cart filled with canning jars, she opened up the back of her truck to put them in and I's have to say there were probably two hundred cases of jars in the bed of her truck. Anyway, I think I have everything I need for this years gardening season.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Well this is going to suck and big time!


May snow, spring polar vortex to shock parts of US in developing weather pattern
By Alex Sosnowski, AccuWeather senior meteorologist
Updated May. 4, 2020 2:03 PM
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Following a weekend when temperatures reached the 70s and even the 80s in some spots, this week will bring much cooler conditions.
An unusually chilly spring is about to turn even more shocking as cold air, moisture and a visit from the polar vortex team up to trigger way out-of-season conditions for mid-May across portions of the Northeast. AccuWeather meteorologists anticipate the upcoming pattern to bring snow that defies the norms for so late in the season and freezing conditions.

The weather late this week to this weekend and beyond may seem unreal and downright nasty after the warmest weekend of the season so far. After the temperature in New York City failed to climb to 70 degrees Fahrenheit during April for the first time in 80 years, since 1940, according to the National Weather Service (NWS), the high soared to 80 on Sunday.

Unfortunately, for gardeners that jumped on the nice weekend weather and started to plant, weather more fitting for early to mid-March is coming on like a freight train. Episodes of freezing temperatures are forecast for parts of the interior Northeast into the middle of May.

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"Get ready to cover or bring in any sensitive plants you bought during the surge of warm weather this past weekend," Paul Pastelok, AccuWeather's top long-range forecaster, said.

Low temperatures in the upper 20s to the lower 30s F are not uncommon through the middle of May in much of the interior Northeast. In fact, the latest risk of a frost or freeze typically occurs during the middle to latter part of May across much of the interior.

"The problem is a number of people may have jumped at the recent warmth from this past weekend and started their planting of summer vegetables and annual flowers," Pastelok said.

The forecast over the next 10 days may spell disaster for some gardeners, farmers and vintners alike. Plunging temperatures could cause damage to sensitive stock, recently bought plants, vineyards and orchards, according to Pastelok.

The real out-of-season part of the weather pattern will be the cold days and evenings and the likelihood of snow for some areas. When the core of the cold air mass has taken over, the high temperature may only be near 50 in New York City this weekend, instead of 70, which is average for the date.

"It's not going to just get cold; it's going to snow and accumulate in some areas of the Northeast as well," Pastelok said.

The first little taste of snow will come on Wednesday as a few snowflakes mix in over the highest terrain in the central Appalachians while much of the rest of the region has rain.

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A more general and more significant snowfall event seems likely a couple of days later.

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"This looks like a good setup for accumulating snow from the higher elevations of New York state and northern Pennsylvania to northwestern Connecticut, western Massachusetts and the southern parts of Vermont and New Hampshire spanning late Friday to Saturday," Pastelok said.

Some areas a bit outside of the zone Pastelok outlined can also at least get some snowflakes and even a light covering of snow on non-paved surfaces. Some residents in northern Ohio, southwestern Pennsylvania, northern West Virginia, northern New Jersey and southern New England could spot some snowflakes before the cold pattern retreats during the second half of the month.

There is a chance of a rain and snow mix around Boston and a remote chance of the same around New York City or at least the northern and western suburbs.

Two storm systems will dive southward into the region between May 9 and 13 along with the flow of cold air from Canada, Pastelok explained.

"The crazy pattern is being set into motion by a break-off lobe of the polar vortex or a displacement of the same," AccuWeather Senior Meteorologist Brett Anderson said.

The second system may swing from west to east across the lower Great Lakes to New England from Monday to Tuesday of next week.

The pattern will create what is called a large closed low pressure area in the jet stream. Even though this is fairly common during the spring, the magnitude of the pattern coming up happens perhaps every 15 to 30 years this late in the season.

"It's like a late-spring version of the polar vortex. If this same pattern was going on during January and February with the major blocking in the jet stream, we would be in a deep freeze with frequent snowstorms in the eastern United States," Pastelok explained.

Late-season snowfalls in the past have occurred with a similar pattern to the one expected to emerge into next week. Pittsburgh has picked up snow as late as May 25 when 0.5 of an inch accumulated in 1925, while Buffalo, New York, has recorded measurable snowfall as late as May 20 when 0.1 of an inch fell way back in 1907. However, snowfalls this late in the season typically tend to occur in relatively small geographic areas.

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What could make the upcoming pattern late this week into early next week so unusual is that it may try to snow over a broad area, along an approximate 500-mile-long swath from northern Ohio to eastern New England.

Keep checking back on AccuWeather.com and stay tuned to the AccuWeather Network on DirecTV, Frontier and Verizon Fios.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I guess there is a frost watch for my area tonight.
Forecast lows of 34 and partly cloudy.
The clouds may be the salvation.
I planted 30 cabbages and 36 cauliflowers over the weekend.

I need to dig out the flannel sheets and the buckets. Looks like I may need to cover up my basil tonight.
 
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