WAR NYT: Vladimir Putin’s Outlaw State

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President Vladimir Putin is fast turning Russia into an outlaw nation. As one of five
permanent members of the United Nations Security Council, his country shares
a special responsibility to uphold international law. Yet, his behavior in Ukraine
and Syria violates not only the rules intended to promote peace instead of conflict,
but also common human decency.

By THE EDITORIAL BOARD
SEPT. 29, 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/29/opinion/vladimir-putins-outlaw-state.html?_r=0


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Vladimir Putin last week in Moscow. Credit Pool photo by Ivan Sekretarev

This bitter truth was driven home twice on Wednesday. An investigative
team led by the Netherlands concluded that the surface-to-air missile
system that shot down a Malaysia Airlines plane over Ukraine in July 2014,
killing 298 on board, was sent from Russia to Russian-backed separatists
and returned to Russia the same night.

Meanwhile, in Syria, Russian and Syrian warplanes knocked out two
hospitals in the rebel-held sector of Aleppo as part of an assault that
threatens the lives of 250,000 more people in a war that has already
claimed some 500,000 Syrian lives.

Russia has tried hard to pin the blame for the airline crash on Ukraine.
But the new report, produced by prosecutors from the Netherlands,
Australia, Belgium, Malaysia and Ukraine, confirms earlier findings.

It uses strict standards of evidence and meticulously documents not only
the deployment of the Russian missile system that caused the disaster
but also Moscow’s continuing cover-up.


Ukraine’s foreign minister, Pavlo Klimkin, told The Times last week that
his government is determined to bring both Russia and the individuals
who fired the missile to justice.

Some Western officials have accused Russia of war crimes, charges that
could be pursued through international channels, even if Moscow blocks
a formal referral to the International Criminal Court.

New sanctions against Russia also should be considered. Mr. Putin will
undoubtedly fight any such action, using his veto on the Security Council,
but whatever his response, the United States should lend its support
to Ukraine’s quest for accountability.

There seems no holding Mr. Putin to account in Syria. For months he has
pretended to negotiate on a political solution to a five-year-old civil war
between his client, President Bashar al-Assad, and rebels backed by
the United States and some Arab nations.

But despite pleas from Secretary of State John Kerry, who has spent
an enormous amount of time and effort negotiating two separate
(and short-lived) cease-fires, Russian and Syrian forces, backed by
Iranian ground troops, have continued the slaughter.

Over recent days, Mr. Putin has again shown his true colors with air
attacks that have included powerful bunker-busting bombs that can
destroy underground hospitals and safety zones where civilians seek
shelter. On Sept. 19, Russia bombed an aid convoy, which like hospitals
and civilians are not supposed to be targeted under international law.

On Wednesday, Mr. Kerry threatened to withdraw an American team
from Geneva where the two sides had established a center to collaborate
on a cease-fire. But that is likely to have little effect, and Mr. Kerry has few,
if any, diplomatic cards to play.

President Obama has long refused to approve direct military intervention in
Syria. And Mr. Putin may be assuming that Mr. Obama is unlikely to confront
Russia in his final months and with an American election season in full swing.


But with the rebel stronghold in Aleppo under threat of falling to
the government, administration officials said that such a response
is again under consideration.


Mr. Putin fancies himself a man on a mission to restore Russia to greatness.
Russia could indeed be a great force for good. Yet his unconscionable
behavior — butchering civilians in Syria and Ukraine, annexing Crimea,
computer-hacking American government agencies, crushing dissent
at home — suggests that the furthest thing from his mind is becoming
a constructive partner in the search for peace.

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A version of this editorial appears in print on September 29, 2016, on page A26
of the New York edition with the headline: Mr. Putin’s Outlaw State.
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twobarkingdogs

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Yet, his behavior in Ukraine and Syria violates not only the rules intended to promote peace instead of conflict, but also common human decency.

Whats he doing wrong in Syria. Last I heard he was invited in by the legal government of Syria and is doing exactly what they've ask.

The propaganda is strong on this one
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
They're intentionally provoking a major nuclear power who has up to date weapons and civil defense whereas we are weak shadows of our former glory. They are insane, absolutely insane. Russia doesn't want war and wants to cooperate but they don't have a partner to work with.
 

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Whats he doing wrong in Syria. Last I heard he was invited in by the legal government of Syria and is doing exactly what they've ask.

The propaganda is strong on this one

A patriot will issue a "Call to Arms" to like-minded freedom lovers.

A globalist will issue a "Call to Swarms" for their lemming-like followers.
 

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Mark Ames ‏@MarkAmesExiled 5h
The language in this NYT editorial on Putin
recalls old edits on Milosevic & Saddam.
They're preparing us for war

PharmaHeretic ‏@Pharmaheretic 4h
@MarkAmesExiled Funny how "official experts" in USA
ignore that Crimea has been part of Russia (and its predecessors)
for over 2 centuries.

Enrico Ivanov ‏@Russ_Warrior 3h
.@MarkAmesExiled @nytimes I agree,
every Russian knows NATO is going to attack soon or later.
Preparations underway.


therusnews ‏@therusnews 3h
@Russ_Warrior @MarkAmesExiled @nytimes
Americans are dumb, but not that dumb.
They never faced an enemy that can strike them at home.



Adam H. Johnson ‏@adamjohnsonNYC 11h
What international law sanctioned the US to bomb Syria again?
I missed that one.

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Be Well

may all be well
I just spent almost an hour calling US senators to stop Kerry's threat to cut off diplomatic ties with RU. It's the least I can do. Going to call more tomorrow.
 

Mark D

Now running for Emperor.
I haven't seen Russia invading/bombing countries non-stop for the last three decade - that really doesn't qualify as "Outlaw" in my book.

However, my boys (11 and 14) have grown up in a country where it's just part of life to be bombing and/or invading another country. They have never know a time when the U.S. military wasn't breaking it off in someone. Their reality is that we (the USA) kill people and bomb their stuff... There's something not quite right about that.
 

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Mikhail D. ‏@Eire_QC 7h
Russian FM has advised all it's citizens in foreign countries
to stay alert for possible terror attacks against them

https://translate.google.com/transl...tent/201609291749-3776.htm&edit-text=&act=url

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation issued
a recommendation to all Russians residing or living abroad.

The ministry reported that a number of organizations,
including the Islamic, prepared on September 30
so-called "World Day of anger and protest" against a new
round of fighting in Aleppo.

"It is possible that such an event can be used by extremist
elements in some countries for attack on Russia and provocations
against its citizens," - say in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
of the Russian Federation.

Therefore, the Ministry recommends to all citizens
of the Russian Federation, who are abroad, to be vigilant
and not to visit public places
could suffer for their dignity
and security.


^^^ Anybody else heard of tomorrow's
"World-Wide Islamic Day of anger and protest"
(Or remember Russia ever telling ALL citizens worldwide to
'stay indoors' or 'stay home' for a day? )

 

SAPPHIRE

Veteran Member
holy moley..........the lying b&st&rds are pointing fingers and wagging their lying scumbag tongues.........vipers with poison and murderous hearts.........deedee devils
 

BetterLateThanNever

Veteran Member
While the NYT is spewing it's bull$shit.....it forgot to mention that they are also supposedly meddling in our Presidential election.

(But most of us already know that the U.S. shares a special responsibility to uphold international law. Yet, it's behavior in Ukraine and Syria violates not only the rules intended to promote peace instead of conflict, but also common human decency.)
 

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When Hearst Artist Frederic Remington, cabled from Cuba in 1897 that "there will be no war," William Randolph Hearst cabled back: "You furnish the pictures and I'll furnish the war." -- http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,854840,00.html

Some things never change...

George Orwell
Looking back on the Spanish War
(Published in 1943)
http://orwell.ru/library/essays/Spanish_War/english/esw_1

^^^ A great read, too long to post the full essay here.

-A snippet-
Why is it worth while to point out anything so obvious?
Because the bulk of the British and American intelligentsia
were manifestly unaware of it then, and are now.
Our memories are short nowadays, but look back a bit,
dig out the files of New Masses or the Daily Worker,
and just have a look at the romantic warmongering muck
that our left-wingers were spilling at that time.

All the stale old phrases! And the unimaginative callousness of it!
The sang-froid with which London faced the bombing of Madrid!

Here I am not bothering about the counter-propagandists of the Right,
the Lunns, Garvins ethoc genus; they go without saying.
But here were the very people who for twenty years had hooted
and jeered at the ‘glory’ of war, at atrocity stories, at patriotism,
even at physical courage, coming out with stuff that with the alteration
of a few names would have fitted into the Daily Mail of 1918.

If there was one thing that the British intelligentsia were committed to,
it was the debunking version of war, the theory that war is all corpses
and latrines and never leads to any good result.

Well, the same people who in 1933 sniggered pityingly if you said that
in certain circumstances you would fight for your country,
in 1937 were denouncing you as a Trotsky-Fascist if you suggested that
the stories in New Masses about freshly wounded men clamouring
to get back into the fighting might be exaggerated.

And the Left intelligentsia made their swing-over from ‘War is hell’ to ‘War is glorious’
not only with no sense of incongruity but almost without any intervening stage.
Later the bulk of them were to make other transitions equally violent.


____BD____
George Orwell: ‘Looking back on the Spanish War’
First published: New Road. — GB, London. — 1943.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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I've been reading a lot of analysis on what happened in Syria in the last few weeks and based on those readings two things seem pretty convincing to me at the moment imho: the US coordinated their attack on Syrian forces with ISIS who was waiting to do a ground attack and it was not accidental or a mistake; and that Russia and Syria did NOT attack the convoy going into Aleppo and the US knows it. (I haven't read up enough recently on the Ukraine plane so I'll withhold comment on that, but I am skeptical of those claims as well.)

If that's true, then all of this is false outrage and the only reason for that would be they WANT a war with Russia. They must really be afraid of a Trump administration if they're rather provoke a nuclear war then let Trump get into power. All those secrets that will be revealed.... Another strategic reason they may have to demonize Putin is if they are expecting some more wiki leaks/guccifer/anonymous/etc incriminatory cyber document dumps. They can point the finger at their new villain Putin, and if they succeed in demonizing him enough to make it appear believable, they can take it even further and accuse him of falsifying the documents, or at the very least put into question their authenticity. Then throw in that Trump wants to work with him and demonize him too while they're at it.


BTW, just to put everyone at ease, (NOT), right now we have FOUR hot spots ready to boil over into major war - all of which could go nuclear:

1. US vs. Russia re: syria

2. The Korean peninsula

3. China vs. Japan in the South China Sea and vs the US and SK if they go forward with the THaad missile defense in SK

4. India and Pakistan. (which should be getting more attention than it is on the board)


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imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
Fri Sep 30, 2016 | 4:15pm EDT

In ex-Soviet Georgia, pope issues veiled criticism of Russia

Pope Francis called for respect for international law and the sovereign rights of nations as he arrived in Georgia on Friday, an implicit criticism of Russia, which keeps troops in two breakaway areas of the ex-Soviet state.

But Francis measured his words carefully, in an apparent attempt not to hurt the Vatican's increasingly warm ties with the Kremlin-backed Russian Orthodox Church.

Georgia won independence in 1991 but the Kremlin's shadow still looms large. Russia, which fought a short war with Georgia in 2008, is one of the few countries that recognize the contested areas of Abkhazia and South Ossetia as independent states.

Speaking at the welcoming ceremony at the presidential palace, Francis, in a clear reference to the Georgian situation, said relations between states in the region "can never lay aside respect for the sovereign rights of every country within the framework of international law".

Georgian President Georgy Margvelashvili said there was a desire for all people to live in dignity.

"But this mission cannot be accomplished in the light of violations of the rights of civilians and the territory being occupied by a neighboring country," he told the pope.

While not specifically mentioning Abkhazia and South Ossetia, Francis supported the right of displaced people to "freely return to that land".

The government says about 300,000 people have been forced from their homes by the conflict over the disputed territories. Moscow has opposed U.N. resolutions backing their right of return.

"CREEPING OCCUPATION"

Georgia, which wants to join the European Union and NATO, has accused Russia of practicing "creeping occupation" by slowly moving fences delineating the breakaway areas from the rest of Georgia's territory.

"We are just 40 km (25 miles) away from barbed wire fences preventing civilian populations - neighbors, relatives, family members - from having contact with each other," the president said.

Less than one percent of Georgia's population of about 3.7 million are Catholic. The overwhelming majority belong to Orthodox Christianity, which broke with Rome in 1054.

Under Francis, who was elected in 2013, the Vatican has made a concerted effort to improve relations with Orthodox Christians in the hopes of an eventual reunion. Earlier this year, he held a historic meeting with Kirill, the patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church.

The Georgian Orthodox Church is one of the more conservative in the Orthodox world. Some of its more hard-core members protested at the airport. They held signs reading: "Vatican is a spiritual aggressor" and "Pope, arch-heretic, you are not welcome in Orthodox Georgia".

But on Friday evening there was no sign of tension between the two Churches as Georgia's ailing, 83-year-old Orthodox leader, Patriarch Ilia II, warmly welcomed the pope.

Francis also visited a church of the country's Assyrian-Chaldean Christian community, where he prayed for victims of war in the Middle East, asking God to comfort those "wearied by bombing" and to "raise up Iraq and Syria from devastation"

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-pope-georgia-idUSKCN1201RG
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
They must really be afraid of a Trump administration if they're rather provoke a nuclear war then let Trump get into power

This seems to ring true, as well as I am able to evaluate such things these days.

But the bigger issue is this. It would be one thing, with calculated objectivity, to launch a world war the FUSA had a ghost of a chance of winning. It is insanity to start a war we are almost certain to lose.

And it is doubly insane for the people who have so deliberately emasculated the FUSA military over the last couple of decades to start that war.

FWIW, there it is as I see it.
 

Heliobas Disciple

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They must really be afraid of a Trump administration if they're rather provoke a nuclear war then let Trump get into power

This seems to ring true, as well as I am able to evaluate such things these days.

But the bigger issue is this. It would be one thing, with calculated objectivity, to launch a world war the FUSA had a ghost of a chance of winning. It is insanity to start a war we are almost certain to lose.

And it is doubly insane for the people who have so deliberately emasculated the FUSA military over the last couple of decades to start that war.

FWIW, there it is as I see it.

Agree. And if we were dealing with an administration that loved this country and wanted it to remain a global power, it would make no sense. The question for me is does that leaves the alternative as the only logical conclusion? Because you're right - what they are doing makes no sense if they want to preserve our way of life.

[eta: there is the alternative explanation that they are really stupid and delusional. If you listen to what Mike Morell said, he thinks if we hurt Russia in Syria, they'll slink home with their tail between their legs. So maybe they actually believe this?!?!?!? This is what he told Charlie Rose: Make Russia pay a little price by killing Russians in Syria, covertly, don't tell the world about it, but make sure they know about it Moscow.
see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ivt2NmbyGg
see: http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...o-Fly-Zone-Syria-Russia&p=6198002#post6198002 ]





And here's the latest to stick in the 'US WANTS WAR WITH RUSSIA' file:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnefGPHty8c
WOW: US Spox John Kirby threatens Russia with “more body bags, attacks on Russian cities"
From the description:
U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry threatens to cut off all cooperation with Moscow over Syria, unless attacks on Aleppo are stopped and the ceasefire is restored. That's as his spokesperson warns of even worse consequences...
[...]
“Extremist groups will continue to exploit the vacuums that are there in Syria to expand their operations, which could include attacks against Russian interests, perhaps even Russian cities. Russia will continue to send troops home in body bags, and will continue to lose resources, perhaps even aircraft,” John Kirby, the State Department’s spokesperson, told reporters at Wednesday’s press briefing.
If the war continues “more Russian lives will be lost, more Russian aircraft will be shot down,” Kirby said.
 

Heliobas Disciple

TB Fanatic
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2016/09/syria-us-propaganda-shams-start-to-openly-fail-.html#more
(fair use applies)

September 30, 2016
Syria - The U.S. Propaganda Shams Now Openly Fail

The Obama administration, and especially the CIA and the State Department, seem to be in trouble. They shout everything they can against Russia and allege that the cleansing of east-Aleppo of al-Qaeda terrorist is genocidal. Meanwhile no mention is ever made of the famine of the Houthis in Yemen which the U.S. and Saudi bombing and their blockade directly causes.

But more and more major news accounts support the Russian allegation that the "moderate rebels" the U.S. is coddling in Syria are actually in cahoots with al-Qaeda if not al-Qaeda itself.

Reuters reports (though only at the end of a longer story):

In Aleppo, rebels in the Free Syrian Army are sharing operational planning with Jaish al-Fatah, an alliance of Islamist groups that includes the former Syrian wing of al Qaeda.

Meanwhile, in nearby Hama province, FSA groups armed with U.S.-made anti-tank missiles are taking part in a major offensive with the al Qaeda-inspired Jund al-Aqsa group.​
The Wall Street Journal is more direct and headlining: Syria Rebels Draw Closer to al Qaeda-Linked Group

Some of Syria’s largest rebel factions are doubling down on their alliance with an al Qaeda-linked group, despite a U.S. warning to split from the extremists or risk being targeted in airstrikes.
...
Some rebel groups already aligned with Syria Conquest Front responded by renewing their alliance. But others, such as Nour al-Din al-Zinki, a former Central Intelligence Agency-backed group and one of the largest factions in Aleppo, pledged allegiance for the first time to the front in recent days.​
Indeed the al.Qaeda affiliate Fateh al-Sham announced publicly that the CIA's Nour el-Din Zinki and Suqour al-Sham joined its Jihad.

As little back as August the State Department defended Zinki after some of its member abducted a Palestinian boy from a hospital near Aleppo and beheaded him in front of a video camera:

n State Department briefings, [..] spokesman Mark Toner downplayed the incidents, or the possibility that the US would stop arming Nour al-Din al-Zinki just because they beheaded a child..
...
Toner insisted [..] “one incident here and there would not necessarily make you a terrorist group.

The new news reports follow after an interview by the German former politician and journalist Jürgen Todenhöfer with an al-Qaeda commander published in English on this site. The commander said that Nusra (aka al-Qaeda) were directly supplied, via a subgroup, with U.S. TOW missiles. He added about such groups:

They are all with us. We are all the al-Nusra Front. A groups is created and calls itself "Islamic Army", or "Fateh al-Sham". Each group has its own name but their believe is homogeneous. The general name is al-Nusra Front. One person has, for example, 2,000 fighters. Then he creates from these a new group and calls it "Ahrar al-Sham". Brothers, who's believe, thoughts and aims are identical to those of al-Nusra Front.
Another interview recently published by the former military Jack Murphy was with a Green Beret soldier who served in Turkey and Syria. The Green Berets are special forces of the U.S. army. They are specialists in training and fighting with indigenous guerrilla groups against governments the U.S. dislikes. The soldier interviewed was ordered to train "moderate Syrian rebels" in Turkey. Parts of the interview (paywalled) are quoted here:

"No one on the ground believes in this mission or this effort”, a former Green Beret writes of America’s covert and clandestine programs to train and arm Syrian insurgents, “they know we are just training the next generation of jihadis, so they are sabotaging it by saying, ‘**** it, who cares?’”. “I don’t want to be responsible for Nusra guys saying they were trained by Americans,” the Green Beret added.
...
Murphy states bluntly: “distinguishing between the FSA and al-Nusra is impossible, because they are virtually the same organization. As early as 2013, FSA commanders were defecting with their entire units to join al-Nusra. There, they still retain the FSA monicker, but it is merely for show, to give the appearance of secularism so they can maintain access to weaponry provided by the CIA and Saudi intelligence services. The reality is that the FSA is little more than a cover for the al-Qaeda-affiliated al-Nusra. ...​
It is one thing when Russia says something, but another when Reuters, WSJ, and independent German and U.S. subject experts report this as facts. The first can be shunned as "Putin lies" but the others are extremely hard to refute.

The Russians are right. The U.S. did not separate the "moderate rebels" from al Qaeda, as it had agreed to in the ceasefire agreement, because the "moderates" and al-Qaeda are the same. The "moderates" are al-Qaeda. This was not unknown. The 2012 Defense Intelligence Analysis said as much. The CIA of course knew this all along. But the Saudi tool heading the CIA, John Brennan, can not admit such as his masters in the Gulf are also the ones who finance al-Qaeda.

They buy the weapons Brennan's people hadn over to al-Qaeda. The "end-user" according to this certificate for a weapon buy in Ukraine is Saudi Arabia. But who will believe that the Saudi dictators need for example 100 obsolete T-55 tanks? The weapons on the certificate, for an estimated $300-$500 million, are obviously for al-Qaeda in Yemen and in Syria. (Did Joe Biden or his son, both heavily engaged in Ukraine, get a provision from the deal?)

As the facts accumulate how long can the New York Times and Washington Post keep up with their propaganda claims. One has to admit, they really try their best. Unfortunately for them, their best is only mediocre. The NYT today found out that Vladimir Putin Relishes His Role as Disrupter. How does the NYT know what Putin "relishes"? The reporter did not ask Putin himself. But he did ask some knowledgeable experts with insight into Putin's inner mind and those assured the author that this is indeed the case. They know exactly how Putin feels. They are Richard Haass, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations, James R. Clapper Jr., the director of national intelligence, James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director and Robert Kagan, leading voice of of the neocons and Clinton promoter. Some "experts".

Add that to dozens of stories on how "Russia indiscriminately bombs civilians/hospitals/bakeries in east-Aleppo" but never hits any "rebels" because none occur in these stories at all. A recent NYT piece of that kind had 14 "voices" in it. Eight belonged to various propagandists associated with the "White Helmets", four were "western" diplomats, one Syrian government official and a Russian spokesperson were quoted at the end. No Russian military and no one from west-Aleppo, where by far most people in the city live under government protection and daily rocket hail by the "rebels", were even asked.

But all those tales we hear about the devilish Russians MUST be true! Even the 7 years old Bana Alabeb now tweets from east-Aleppo about her tragic fate under indiscriminate Russian assaults. This in perfect English and with an excellent WiFi and Internet connection as her many "White Helmets" photo attachments and her videos attest. But the whole city is devastated and in ruins she says, with phosphor bombs going off right in front of her house.

But Bana is a very responsible little lady:

Bana Alabed @AlabedBana

Dear world, it's better to start 3rd world war instead of letting Russia & assad commit #HolocaustAleppo

1:53 PM - 29 Sep 2016​
"Here "mother" phoned up the Daily Mail for an "exclusive" and assures us that this is all true. The Telegraph has her in a slideshow with sad music and the Guardian promotes her too. Another Gay Girl in Damascus media fail. In 2011 the Guardian also was part of that scam. If that 7-year old girl is in east-Aleppo and not in Denmark or the UK, I must be on Mars. No sane reader will take such a stunt serious. What Public Relation company came up with this sorry flimflam?

Like the "moderate rebels" fantasy, such tales and the nonsense the "White Helmet" propaganda outlet distributes, are starting to fail. The UAE's National, a well established international newspaper, recently dug a bit around the White Helmet's creator, a "former" British military agent working for Gulf defense interests. That does not sound charitable. This is noticeable report, even as it still lacks any details, as it is the first in a major paper that shows some auspiciousness against that outlet.

The Obama administration's lies about the "moderate rebels" are now openly discussed in major media. The propaganda of #HolocaustAleppo (isn't abusing the holocaust meme anti-semitic?) is turning into a laughing stock.

Russia is upping its stake in Syria. Additional Russian SU-24, SU-25 and SU-34 jets are arriving. Nearly 6,000 Russian soldiers are on the ground. The CIA's al-Qaeda "rebels" are losing in east-Aleppo and are in stalemate and under pressure elsewhere. They will be bombed to smithereens. A few new BM-21 multiple missile launchers and heavier anti-air artillery was delivered to them. But those are just band-aids on lethally bleeding wounds. Even MANPADs will not change the situation one bit.

The U.S., the Saudis and especially Brennan's CIA have lost that fight. Will Obama and Kerry admit it? Or will they throw another Hail Mary and do something crazy?

Posted by b on September 30, 2016 at 09:55 AM
 

CELLO

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Mikhail D. ‏@Eire_QC 7h
Russian FM has advised all it's citizens in foreign countries
to stay alert for possible terror attacks against them

https://translate.google.com/transl...tent/201609291749-3776.htm&edit-text=&act=url

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation issued
a recommendation to all Russians residing or living abroad.

The ministry reported that a number of organizations,
including the Islamic, prepared on September 30
so-called "World Day of anger and protest" against a new
round of fighting in Aleppo.

"It is possible that such an event can be used by extremist
elements in some countries for attack on Russia and provocations
against its citizens," - say in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
of the Russian Federation.

Therefore, the Ministry recommends to all citizens
of the Russian Federation, who are abroad, to be vigilant
and not to visit public places
could suffer for their dignity
and security.


^^^ Anybody else heard of tomorrow's
"World-Wide Islamic Day of anger and protest"
(Or remember Russia ever telling ALL citizens worldwide to
'stay indoors' or 'stay home' for a day? )


"World Wide Islamic Day of Anger and Protest"... well well, doesn't this sound exactly like what the POS community organizer-in-chief would organize?
 
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