Obama Scares the Heck Out of Me!

mbo

Membership Revoked
So, you don't believe that preserving scientic knowledge and history is important? I do.

Hey genius, that funding is handled by standard appropriations bills for the Smithsonian.


You really need to get a clue.


This is not a "stimulus" bill, unless what you want to stimulate is the size of the Federal Government.


. It is a socialistic spending behemoth. It is greater than the cost of ALL wars ever fought by this country (yes, including Iraq).

And it was proved that similar past behemoth spending efforts DO NOT WORK !!!!
 

Ragenomore

Senior Member
He should have a line item veto to stop the pork. This is much to serious a situation.
Could you guys stop the name calling? You sound like you're in 1st grade.
 

diamonds

Administrator
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So, you don't believe that preserving scientic knowledge and history is important? I do.

The Smithsonian will make it through the economic crisis.. Artifacts can be locked in a vault till the crisis is past without being harmed:lkick: We need to worry about getting people back to work.. Providing jobs for those who need and want them.. We need to take care of our fellow Americans.. We need to make sure they have money to put food on the table, pay utilities and be able to survive...

You just placed a few material things/objects as being more important than human beings.. Including a few fellow TB'ers who are struggling..
 
Hey genius, that funding is handled by standard appropriations bills for the Smithsonian.


You really need to get a clue.


This is not a "stimulus" bill, unless what you want to stimulate is the size of the Federal Government.


. It is a socialistic spending behemoth. It is greater than the cost of ALL wars ever fought by this country (yes, including Iraq).

And it was proved that similar past behemoth spending efforts DO NOT WORK !!!!

:boohoo::boohoo::boohoo:

+1

It's imperative we agree to pass this mess immediately...but it'll take years to spend the allocated funds:screw:
How's that the 'stimulus' we need NOW? This is PORK, something Obama said he'd stop. I think he just ment Repub pork.
 

Warandra

Membership Revoked
The Smithsonian will make it through the economic crisis.. Artifacts can be locked in a vault till the crisis is past without being harmed:lkick: We need to worry about getting people back to work.. Providing jobs for those who need and want them.. We need to take care of our fellow Americans.. We need to make sure they have money to put food on the table, pay utilities and be able to survive...

You just placed a few material things/objects as being more important than human beings.. Including a few fellow TB'ers who are struggling..

Please correct me, if I'm mistaken, but, weren't you one of those people who claimed that we shouldn't look to the federal government for handouts (since it's becoming too large and too controlling)? If not, I apologize. But, most people on TB2K feel that way.
 

Warandra

Membership Revoked
Yes, please, Warandra...enlighten us. Please assist us in seeing this "clever remark" to which you refer. :lol:

Please O P, go back to robbing all of us at the gas pump and telling us how it's the right of the compnay for which you work to do so.
 

MtnGal

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The last I checked, Obama doesn't have line item veto power. So, like he promised. he's allowing the people to see who is putting "pork" into the bills. But, remember that much of what some call "pork" is what we locals like to think of as JOBS.

So you admit obama was just talking out his a$$ when he told the people he would go line by line!

Are you saying he'd rather allow the people to see who is putting 'pork' in the bill than speak out against it and actually help the people? You mean kinda like a third graders revenge?

Jobs? Go look at how many jobs are going to be created installing doorbells. What are they going to do after the two weeks it takes to install them?

Yes the water park will create jobs. How many people losing their jobs or homes will be able to spend money to enjoy it? Of course the elite will, they aren't losing anything.

And just who is the dog park for? Not the average person who doesn't have the extra gas money to get there.

And don't forget The Forks of the Road Heritage Trail. That's really going to boost the economy and pull 'everyone' together in hard times.
 

diamonds

Administrator
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Please correct me, if I'm mistaken, but, weren't you one of those people who claimed that we shouldn't look to the federal government for handouts (since it's becoming too large and too controlling)? If not, I apologize. But, most people on TB2K feel that way.


Your argument holds no logic..
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.. Teach him to fish and you feed him a lifetime..

Creating jobs is not a federal handout.. It is the key to independence.. It is the key to pride and self worth.. Creating jobs will help keep families in their homes, fed and warm... Creating jobs is not living on the dole or receiving goberment funds to pay your bills.. I think you are confusing the two issues:lkick:
 

maric

Short but deadly
Your argument holds no logic..
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day.. Teach him to fish and you feed him a lifetime..

Creating jobs is not a federal handout.. It is the key to independence.. It is the key to pride and self worth.. Creating jobs will help keep families in their homes, fed and warm... Creating jobs is not living on the dole or receiving goberment funds to pay your bills..

Yeah but remember, the libs think standing in a welfare line and getting a check is working. It's a dang hard job to stand there with your hand out for a few hours.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
So, you don't believe that preserving scientic knowledge and history is important? I do.
I thought we were already doing that.

The more 0bama does, the less scared of him I become. In fact, that fear has been replaced by a kind of 'clarity' and his dropping of charges against the USS Cole mastermind yesterday basically helped me to turn the corner, so to speak.
Good. Do not let it overwhelm you, it will be tempting to just shut down and give up. If you need someone to poke you in the eye with a stick to get your dander up let me know.

I now realize that I am a citizen beholden to a government that does not represent my interests, economically or in matters of national security. I now realize that the gravest threat to national security is not the hadjis, it is the president. I now realize that we have moved from a 'military model' of dealing with terrorism to the 'law enforcement model'. The law enforcement model was what was in play during the Clinton administration. We are now relegated to catching terrorists like we catch cat burglars - only in the act of committing the crime. If we ever successfully try, convict and execute a terrorist again, it will be because the crime will already have been committed. This means that another terror attack will have to take place on US soil.

Given all that, I now know that I must intensify both my prepping efforts and my vocal continued opposition to this administration. We are on our own, us Americans. Our government is our enemy.

Honey, soon WE will openly be considered the terrorists for resisting Marxism. The concentration camps await. The reason they want another terrorist act is to further tighten controls and restrictive laws. Institute martial law to confiscate our guns, etc. Just in case we're terrorists, ya know. There will be another terrorist act if they have to do it themselves. They know the liberals will give up their unappreciated freedom and liberty for peace and safety, no matter how mythical it will be. Prep, buy food. It will be the new currency.

I don't understand how any sane person could see that bill for concentration camps on American soil and not at least connect a dot. Recent history illustrates what they are for. How does Wararandrararara, Fruit Loop et al feel about this hideous specter being introduced into a modern day free civilization?

Quite honestly, what is going on in D.C. is acts of terrorism against our government, our Constitution and Bill of Rights. The level of anger of decent, hard working citizens is going to continue to rise.

Government employees and the entitlement crowd will be lulled into their hypnotic stupor feeling safe for the time being. 0z the Great and Powerful is pulling money out of his Muslim behind, and everyone gets free money, YAY! They block out all outside information that could help them see the truth because the truth hurts. It's scary out there. They don't realize they've set themselves and their families up for potential government sponsored torture and death-they ignore the fact their fellow liberals are sponsoring concentration camps. What on earth do they think those damn things are for? Chickens?

They themselves know the evil they are capable of, which is why I think they volunteer-to soothe guilty consciences. If they are capable of such atrocities, why do they think politicians are above the same evil capabilities? Because it feels good to think 'Daddy's' in the White House, he promised he'd take care of us. In spite of common sense battering the door of their subconscious, they still refuse reality.

What pisses me off the most about this is, they've made this filthy bed, and they will not get it when the fleas destroy it, that it was their fault, they not only allowed it but they welcomed it, they embraced it and hated anyone who opposed it. They will be the ultimate destroyers, after all, "We won! Get over it.", yet will try to skip off and leave the wreckage behind hoping no one remembers their role in our destruction. Well guess what? YOU go down too. Violent takeovers are always blood baths. The new fascist ruler will find out who got him into his power seat, who turned on their fellow citizens to get him into power and they will be executed because they can't be trusted. You think that is harsh and I'm full of crap? It could never happen here? Guess what? You're seeing the beginnings right now. What the hell do you think the government needs concentration camps for???

Go research Kissinger, see what he's done with his life. Hitler. See how he came into power and what he did to his own people. We're seeing it all replay now. Instead of Jews, it's Christians and supporters of the Constitution and Bill of Rights, gun owners who are going to be persecuted. When they are finished with us, they will come after you. They won't need a reason, they'll make one up. Just like in Nazi Germany. Your neighbors will rat you out for a loaf of bread.

You liberals here who think Marxism, Socialism and Communism is a good thing, go read up on life in Mao's China, Hitler's Germany, Lenin's Russia, clear on back to Biblical times. The ideal is sweetness and light and everybody has a pot with a chicken in it. The reality is millions of citizens brutally murdered for whatever whim the despot of the hour deems. If you're going to operate on feelings, at least choose the proper one for the occasion. Your feelings for what 0bama and his fellow liberals are doing in office should be HORROR.

I hate to say it but it's what I've been beating around the bush for here this whole time, it's been on my mind for days now. IS there going to, God forbid, be an attempt on 0's life? The more people learn, the more they wake up, I fear for that miserable man's life. Not because he's anything special, but because what they will replace him with will probably make him look like Mr. Rogers, and if he died or was injured it could very well spark off the race ware we all seem to feel is in the works. I believe this has been the plan all along.
 

plantman

Veteran Member
I’m going to give both of the Bush’s a pass because they have been so beat upon that it would be gratuitous to say anything. Let history do that and my bet is it will be a lot kinder than that howling, raving pack of liberals that want to blame them for everything short of the War of 1812.


http://www.borderfirereport.net/alan-caruba/obama-scares-the-heck-out-of-me.html

Stopped reading at "raving pack of liberals" it's whoopee speech designed to emotionally draw the reader into a conclusion that people who are liberal are raving. I'm neither liberal or ultra-conservative, somewhere in the middle and I'm here to say that I was very dissappointed by all the Bush Presidencies.

Will history be kind to the Bush family? Depends on who is writing it.
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
Please O P, go back to robbing all of us at the gas pump and telling us how it's the right of the compnay for which you work to do so.

OK. Stick em' up! :sh1:

As an aside, was that supposed to be "clever"? I gotta be honest here...it just wasn't. You gotta come up with something else here, Warandra, because what you're giving us thus far just doesn't move the needle on the old cleverness meter. :lol:
 

Warandra

Membership Revoked
Honey, soon WE will openly be considered the terrorists...

Some of the comments on some of these threads have pretty much branded some of you as "terrorists." When someone states that they (and those who agreed with the person) are going to do everything possible to overthrow the government, I wonder why the government might be a slight bit concerned.
 

maric

Short but deadly
Some of the comments on some of these threads have pretty much branded some of you as "terrorists." When someone states that they (and those who agreed with the person) are going to do everything possible to overthrow the government, I wonder why the government might be a slight bit concerned.


Shoes on the other foot and you libs can't handle it. You libs did this for the past 8 years. Paybacks a b**ch huh?
 

Ragenomore

Senior Member
Some of the comments on some of these threads have pretty much branded some of you as "terrorists." When someone states that they (and those who agreed with the person) are going to do everything possible to overthrow the government, I wonder why the government might be a slight bit concerned.

Naw. They deal with credible threats not loony tunes.
 

mbo

Membership Revoked
Some of the comments on some of these threads have pretty much branded some of you as "terrorists." When someone states that they (and those who agreed with the person) are going to do everything possible to overthrow the government, I wonder why the government might be a slight bit concerned.

Maybe the "government" - and I'm talking about the monster that is the Federal Government - should back down, and cease and desist its attempts to garner such massive powers over the citizenry.

Re-read your Constitution. It was designed to CONSTRAIN the Federal Government, it's as plain and simple as that.


:dot5:
 

Willow

Veteran Member
Warandra wrote:

He's doing the best he can



And that is exactly the problem. If we are seeing his best then we are in a very very bad place right now. There is no name calling from me....but I truly fear for our country with Obama in charge. He may be the nicest guy in the world but he is quickly showing that he is not up to the job he just stepped into.

Willow
 

momof23goats

Deceased
May God Bless Obama and the USA!!

This guy is distroying the country, he needs to get his act together. the white house is not the place to learn, or for show and tell.
so far i would say he has done zip , nanda, as in not one thing, good for this country.
 

Ragenomore

Senior Member
This guy is distroying the country, he needs to get his act together. the white house is not the place to learn, or for show and tell.
so far i would say he has done zip , nanda, as in not one thing, good for this country.

No. It is Bush's fault.
He,O, has not been in office long enough to do a gosh darned thing. WTF do you people want.
 

BL225128

Inactive
Please O P, go back to robbing all of us at the gas pump and telling us how it's the right of the compnay for which you work to do so.

And, what, you work for some gov't welfare agency or some ridiculous non-profit? Why don't you go back to helping rape and rob the American taxpayer and telling us how its noble and right of you and your marxist comrades to do so.
 

kozanne

Inactive
No. It is Bush's fault.
He,O, has not been in office long enough to do a gosh darned thing. WTF do you people want.

I would disagree. Between 0bama and his supermajority Congress, I'd say they've been quite busy. The difference is the toast is simply not popped up from the toaster just yet.

They're doing. They're not done.
 

Ragenomore

Senior Member
We want him to act like an adult, not like a child in a candy store.


:sht:

He is acting like an adult. I have never seen so many "adults" throwing such hissy fits ever in my life.
The man has been in office how long? Give me a fing break.:sht:
He does not have a supermajority, or do the facts get in the way of your fantasy world.
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
No. It is Bush's fault.
He,O, has not been in office long enough to do a gosh darned thing. WTF do you people want.

We want him to fulfill all his campaign promises. Remake the world, right now, in half an hour, and do it with three commercial breaks.

That's why we voted for him, remember? He's "The One," remember? :lkick:

See...your problem here is that your pal Barry Soetoro is someone who has never delivered results, yet finds himself in a job where delivering results is the only criteria for success. As it happens, Soetoro promised greater results while criticizing his predecessor more loudly than any candidate I can remember. Yet, even with solid majorities in both the House and Senate, his legislative agenda is foundering on the shoals, and he has been reduced to whining and sniveling about what the Republicans are listening to on the radio.

How sad. Not only for Barry, but for all of us, as well.

At this point, you must be feeling cheated, taken and abused by Mr. Soetoro. I can't say I blame you. Not in the least. :lol:
 
No. It is Bush's fault.
He,O, has not been in office long enough to do a gosh darned thing. WTF do you people want.

Bush was in office less than 7 months when 9-11 happened and he was fully blamed for it, although Bin Laden, who Clinton refused to capture/kill was behind it all.

Sort of amazing, is it not?

Goes around - comes around.
 

kozanne

Inactive
Listen, you want to support 0bama, that's your privilege. Just as it's our privilege not to. How long did it take for the Bush bashers to get started after he took the oath? Do you honestly believe with everything that is at stake people should just sit here and wait on someone else to determine their future for them? Whether they want that future or not? With all the water that has gone under the bridge, regardless of who is to blame, do you really expect the rest of us to just sit here and wait???

People are angry, they are confused, they are scared. They have a right to be, whether you agree with that or not. If you want to assuage that fear, anger and confusion then try presenting facts in a way that does not condescend to people.

ETA: and these are not children on this board. They are adults, some of them facing the consequences of the decisions being made by THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION in a very real way. Right now, I'm one of the blessed ones, but I've been in these people's shoes and I know just how scary that is. To insult them just adds fuel to the fire.
 

Warandra

Membership Revoked
He is acting like an adult. I have never seen so many "adults" throwing such hissy fits ever in my life.
The man has been in office how long? Give me a fing break.:sht:
He does not have a supermajority, or do the facts get in the way of your fantasy world.

Thank you for the dose of reality.
 

kozanne

Inactive
Thank you for the dose of reality.

You're just as bad, Warandra. You do nothing but condescend and insult people who have a right to know what they are facing. You have no compassion or understanding of human nature.

You and all like you should be ashamed of yourselves. You had no problem banging on the last president like he was a drum, but it's a different story now?

You sit here and call people racists at your first opportunity, and you expect people to come to some kind of understanding with you?

You are no better than anyone else on this board and we have a right to express our concerns without having to deal with your snarky little reprisals.
 

Ragenomore

Senior Member
Bush was in office less than 7 months when 9-11 happened and he was fully blamed for it, although Bin Laden, who Clinton refused to capture/kill was behind it all.

Sort of amazing, is it not?

Goes around - comes around.

Personally, I never blamed Bush or Clinton for it. I blame some freaking madmen jihadis who are evil incarnate.

We want him to fulfill all his campaign promises. Remake the world, right now, in half an hour, and do it with three commercial breaks.

If that is what you want, then you are stupid. What elected official ever fulfills all of his promises?

That's why we voted for him, remember? He's "The One," remember? :lkick:

Perhaps you did. I did not.

See...your problem here is that your pal Barry Soetoro
Not my pal.

is someone who has never delivered results, yet finds himself in a job where delivering results is the only criteria for success.
He has been in office how long exactly?
As it happens, Soetoro promised greater results while criticizing his predecessor more loudly than any candidate I can remember.
Your opinion.

Yet, even with solid majorities in both the House and Senate, his legislative agenda is foundering on the shoals,
What is shoals?

and he has been reduced to whining and sniveling about what the Republicans are listening to on the radio.

I have not heard him whining nor sniveling. I have heard him poke fun at the Republican obsession with the drug addicted pompous pig Rush L.

How sad. Not only for Barry, but for all of us, as well.

No. What is sad is that people like you won't grow up.

At this point, you must be feeling cheated, taken and abused by Mr. Soetoro. I can't say I blame you. Not in the least. :lol:

I do not feel cheated nor abused. I do not trust what a person says but what a person does.
What I do feel is that people who have nothing better to do then this crap are truly pathetic.
 

Ragenomore

Senior Member
Listen, you want to support 0bama, that's your privilege. Just as it's our privilege not to. How long did it take for the Bush bashers to get started after he took the oath? Do you honestly believe with everything that is at stake people should just sit here and wait on someone else to determine their future for them? Whether they want that future or not? With all the water that has gone under the bridge, regardless of who is to blame, do you really expect the rest of us to just sit here and wait???

People are angry, they are confused, they are scared. They have a right to be, whether you agree with that or not. If you want to assuage that fear, anger and confusion then try presenting facts in a way that does not condescend to people.


Kozane,
I do understand the fear. But the anger? It is beyond rational.
 

SassyinAZ

Inactive
Warandra,

Don't try to ride on Rage's or FL's coattails -- do some homework, their posts are based on something, yours are just to flame, can you not see the difference?

Rage,

The ANGER is at the implementation of socialism on our backs, our children's backs, our grand-children's backs -- I know you don't support that. Yes, the BO-BF bill is ALL on BO and the Dems.

Oh BO, bend-over, BO, Barrack Obama -- SNORT! too perfect!
 

kozanne

Inactive
Listen, you want to support 0bama, that's your privilege. Just as it's our privilege not to. How long did it take for the Bush bashers to get started after he took the oath? Do you honestly believe with everything that is at stake people should just sit here and wait on someone else to determine their future for them? Whether they want that future or not? With all the water that has gone under the bridge, regardless of who is to blame, do you really expect the rest of us to just sit here and wait???

People are angry, they are confused, they are scared. They have a right to be, whether you agree with that or not. If you want to assuage that fear, anger and confusion then try presenting facts in a way that does not condescend to people.


Kozane,
I do understand the fear. But the anger? It is beyond rational.

Of course it is. But I understand it. Whoops pressed the wrong button there.

Anyway, yeah the anger. Only one way that's going to settle is over time. People do not like feeling powerless. Making angry statements about pitchforks and torches, et al, just gives them the feeling that there IS something they might be able to do to 'stop the madness'. Some people take it to the extreme, not much anyone can do about that. But at least, if one tries to fully explain something and acknowledges those angry people's concerns, even if they stay angry, you can say you tried. That is what you are obligated to do.

Let me use the example of Warandra saying the minority will be dragged to the wonderful place under 0bama. Those are not her exact words, but you get the point. That made me madder than hell, along with a couple of other posters. Talk about rendering people powerless! And it brought the anger up another notch. No good came of it.

Anyway, IMO. Bless your heart.
 

maric

Short but deadly
I do understand the fear. But the anger? It is beyond rational.

The anger of the last 8 years wasn't rational but yet it was thrown in EVERY conservatives face daily. Deal with it. Until that animal is out of the WH, I'm going to be angry like you've never seen. This country USED TO BE A DEMOCRACY! You libs can cram your socialism up your arses!
 
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