Obama supporters celebrate "No more Israel" ****LANGUAGE****

KMR58

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I'm wondering who is deceived. I'm not an Obama fan at all. In fact I'm about as conservative as they come. But people wake up. There is so much historical and Biblical evidence that those who are currently living in the country of Israel are not Israelites. This lack of knowledge about who true Israelites are is going to be the downfall of us all. Praying that Yahweh takes the blinders off of His people before it's too late. "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge". That knowledge is who they are. Look back at historical documents. The people who call themselves the Jews are not descended from the Twelve Tribes. Christendom is blinded and they need to take off those blinders before there aren't any left. The clues are all over the Bible who they really are (the Jews) and what is going to happen to them in the end.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
The video shows uneducated GIBSMEDATS. They wouldn't know a democratic country that respects freedom from an islamic dictatorship if it bit them in the ass.
What do you expect, they are Obama's people.
What I can't understand, and what really pisses my wife off who is Jewish, is why 70% of Jews would vote for Obama, a man who really would just as soon kill them as look at them.


KMR58 you also don't know what you are talking about.
My wifes family was driven from Israel by the Romans. Were slaves/servants in Italy and eventually taken to Spain by the Romans. They lived in Spain for a thousand years until they were driven out in the 15th century by "Christians". They were welcomed into Morocco and lived there until the 20th century. Some of her family went back to Israel in the late 1800s and the rest left Morocco for Israel at the time of the 6 day war. Some were killed in Morocco but most made it to Israel.
It took them almost 2000 years and countless generations to circle the Mediteranean Sea, but Israel is their home. They maintained their language, religion and customs for centuries even though it cost many of them their lives.
Who the hell are you to say its not their country just because you read it in a anit-Semitic pamphlet somewhere. Tell me, what did your family do for the last 2000 years?
 
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Old as dirt

Old as dirt
TerryK, Well said, I am for Israel, Pray for her safety, pray for Natanyahu, and all the folks who live in Israel. And Israel will always be after all the Muslim countries are destroyed. She is back in her land to stay. Amen
 

Argonath

Senior Member
Interesting isnt it...

We have discussed the book the Harbingers, and its parallels to NYC, but forget that at the end of the biblical account, Judah repented, but Israel was forever removed.

So why did the Zionists, who trace their lineage to the Rothschild Khazars (who in the 10th century converted to Judaism by order the King... not BLOOD Jews), decide to recreate the land under the name Israel, and not Judah?

By the way.... In Revelation when they recreate the Temple, even this act is meaningless since the Spirit of God will never again reside i the Holy of Holies. With this context, the temple rebuilt is done at the behest of Anti-Christ, for him to enter in and declare himself god.

There is NO good thing that comes from the prophetic future of Israel's return, the rebuilding of the Temple, and those living in the 'land'. Perhaps I go a little too far... the only good thing is it prophesies our Lord's Return, but even Revelation says only a slight remnant of true Jewry will cry out in the end, "Blessed be He who comes in the Name of the Lord."
 

joekan

Veteran Member
I'm wondering who is deceived. I'm not an Obama fan at all. In fact I'm about as conservative as they come. But people wake up. There is so much historical and Biblical evidence that those who are currently living in the country of Israel are not Israelites. This lack of knowledge about who true Israelites are is going to be the downfall of us all. Praying that Yahweh takes the blinders off of His people before it's too late. "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge". That knowledge is who they are. Look back at historical documents. The people who call themselves the Jews are not descended from the Twelve Tribes. Christendom is blinded and they need to take off those blinders before there aren't any left. The clues are all over the Bible who they really are (the Jews) and what is going to happen to them in the end.

You're taking this as being applied only to the Jewish people, but this verse also includes the nation itself: the land, economy, security, military, etc. I know this does of course affect the people living in Israel. I'm not sure that your statement, those who are currently living in the country of Israel are not Israelites. is accurate or not. I don't believe it is. In latter days, many Israelities will be returning to Israel which I believe they are doing so now. IMHO.
 

Demodave

Veteran member
Since when does God lie? His promises are forever, or He is not God. To say that those who live in Israel are not Jews.....is the same as saying Jerusalem is not the real Jerusalem. When God, Jesus, comes back will He not set His foot on the Mount of Olives? That those who live there will indeed recognize Their Messiah?

Or did God move Jerusalem too? Is it now somewhere in the US? Must be if the "Church" is now Israel... blah blah blah...
Or do you think that the "Church" will be moved to Israel to replace all the nasty Jews, or those who "call" themselves Jews.


Replacement Theology is designed to take Israel's inheritance away. It is necessary to embrace that theology so to make the current "Jews" evil, and portray them in a way so that nations will rise against them, and remove their lampstand from them. To have the arrogance to believe that the "Church" has replaced Israel is from the pit. Numerous facts will testify that those who are living and who are returning to Israel are in fact Jewish. Blood tests, genealogies, etc


If God forgot or ignores the Jews, because of their disbelief, or lack of obedience, then He must also forget you and me.

That's not likely to happen. Or you might as well party, cause hope is lost, as is faith. As God is NOT a liar.

As for me, I believe that God said what He meant, and means what He says.


Genesis 12:1–3

The Call of Abram

12 Now the Lord said to Abram, “Go from your country and your kindred and your father’s house to the land that I will show you. 2 And I will make of you a great nation, and I will bless you and make your name great, so that you will be a blessing. 3 I will bless those who bless you, and him who dishonors you I will curse, and pin you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”

God will indeed come to His people, He neither slumbers nor sleeps, and He and He alone is the protector of Israel.

We are grafted in, not the true vine, but His children, the offspring of Abraham, are indeed His true vine. The church is not the true vine, again, grafted in.

Many will follow replacement theology due to their own pride and the desire to be important in God's kingdom. Beware that God is jealous for His people. He has called Israel the apple of His eye.

Respect and care should go to His family. While some of the above posters seem to share the concept and practice of replacement theology, as for me and my house, we will bless Israel, and will stand with those who live in Israel to serve and honor Him. And even bless those who are in Israel, so that when Jesus comes, those who have missed His first coming, will recognize Him who they have pierced, and will weep, because they missed His first coming. I truly believe that the God of Abraham cares for those who live in Israel, the Jews, and yes, the True Jews who still worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Anyone can argue religious points all day and nobody seems to win.

Whats wrong with supporting a free and democratic country just because they are a free and democratic country that has been our ally all along. One of the only ones in the area. They aren't perfect, but they are a hell of a lot better than any other country in the area. I've spent a few years in that part of the world in both Israel and various moslem countries, and I know.
Hell, Christians couldn't even visit the holy places before Israel.

And with that, maybe it's time we stopped drifting the thread and get back to Obama supporters.
We should be very suspicious of anyone who starts out by saying I'm not an Obama supporter but...

The guy in the video reminds me of the woman who was ranting about her Obama phone.
 

momof23goats

Deceased
I'm wondering who is deceived. I'm not an Obama fan at all. In fact I'm about as conservative as they come. But people wake up. There is so much historical and Biblical evidence that those who are currently living in the country of Israel are not Israelites. This lack of knowledge about who true Israelites are is going to be the downfall of us all. Praying that Yahweh takes the blinders off of His people before it's too late. "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge". That knowledge is who they are. Look back at historical documents. The people who call themselves the Jews are not descended from the Twelve Tribes. Christendom is blinded and they need to take off those blinders before there aren't any left. The clues are all over the Bible who they really are (the Jews) and what is going to happen to them in the end.

I know your joking right? let me explain, the Israeli's have a blood test they do, with this test they can tell if you are of jewish blood or not. yup they do use it too. think I am kidding, go to Israel and tell them your jewish and want to be come a citizen of their nation.
yes, the people in Israel are jewish.

that is how they found out about the black jews in africa. it wasn't enough that they were practicing jews, they each were tested, yes they have the jewish blood, and they were also able to trace it back.
the tribes were scattered to the wind, in otherwards they ewent out of israel as punishment for straying against GODS word.

allot of those tribes went all over Europe. in fact most.
here is one for you, I am jewish on my mothers side , my grand mother was jewish from Ireland.
as her mother before her was jewish. her great grand mother was from Europe.
my grand mother spoke like an irish person. but knew some yiddish also. THe jewish blood lines run through the mother not the father.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

my family amnd I, will always stand with the jewish people, we are born again, have been for along time. but the fact remains we have the race of the jewish people in us. call me what you will , but I pray for the state of Israel. and all that is with in. I honor and show respect for each person in that country, when they hurt I hurt.

oh and by the way, there will be a third and final temple built, now go read up on that.............
 
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Gitche Gumee Kid

Veteran Member
Concerning one's position on Israel :there seems to be as many opinions out there as points on a compass.
My compass aligns with post #8 . Atta boy Demodave.

GGK
 

Tennessee gal

Veteran Member
I'm wondering who is deceived. I'm not an Obama fan at all. In fact I'm about as conservative as they come. But people wake up. There is so much historical and Biblical evidence that those who are currently living in the country of Israel are not Israelites. This lack of knowledge about who true Israelites are is going to be the downfall of us all. Praying that Yahweh takes the blinders off of His people before it's too late. "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge". That knowledge is who they are. Look back at historical documents. The people who call themselves the Jews are not descended from the Twelve Tribes. Christendom is blinded and they need to take off those blinders before there aren't any left. The clues are all over the Bible who they really are (the Jews) and what is going to happen to them in the end.

I will have to respectfully disagree. Seminary grad here, well versed in Scripture and history.
 
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bagpiper

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I know your joking right? let me explain, the Israeli's have a blood test they do, with this test they can tell if you are of jewish blood or not. yup they do use it too. think I am kidding, go to Israel and tell them your jewish and want to be come a citizen of their nation.
yes, the people in Israel are jewish.

that is how they found out about the black jews in africa. it wasn't enough that they were practicing jews, they each were tested, yes they have the jewish blood, and they were also able to trace it back.
the tribes were scattered to the wind, in otherwards they ewent out of israel as punishment for straying against GODS word.

allot of those tribes went all over Europe. in fact most.
here is one for you, I am jewish on my mothers side , my grand mother was jewish from Ireland.
as her mother before her was jewish. her great grand mother was from Europe.
my grand mother spoke like an irish person. but knew some yiddish also. THe jewish blood lines run through the mother not the father.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

my family amnd I, will always stand with the jewish people, we are born again, have been for along time. but the fact remains we have the race of the jewish people in us. call me what you will , but I pray for the state of Israel. and all that is with in. I honor and show respect for each person in that country, when they hurt I hurt.

oh and by the way, there will be a third and final temple built, now go read up on that.............

Yes, they were, and the lost tribes are not so lost, just in denial.
What is the meaning of the word; Saxons? Originally it was; Saac's Sons. The leading vowels were mostly dropped, so we have; Sons of Isaac.

Then we have 10 toes, virgins and horns. But few get the meaning... especially preacher men... they are ones mostly doing the denying.
WE are ten toes divided as iron and clay... we have ten virgins of the good people, prepping and hiding... we have ten horns that are the Shofars of the leaders of the rich white men that control the Earth through the money... who are out of the lost tribes.

We are also, the first land on Earth with; Unwalled villages.
Who are the Lost ten tribes? Those who came from the Caucus mountains, who came from Babylon, who came from Israel. Deal with it.
Why are we in denial? Because the enmity against our Jewish cousins is still strong after all this time. And it is enforced by the Babylon system, a system of the Elite for the Elite. This is the ultimate hidden message in the statue of Nebuchadnezzar. The Head of Gold, that is the Rule of Gold; He who has the gold, makes the rules. This was a system that invented the fixed contract of debt, enforced by the Kings law and sword, while keeping the people in 'submission to Godly authority' by the Priests of the Temple of the Sun god. Sound familiar? It should, it was a system designed for the Elites of the House to win the game of Life. This is what we got when we demanded a "King to rule over us." How do ya like that king stuff now?

We were the rider of the White horse, the Holy Roman empire, given a crown and went forth conquering in 'the name of God', and killed the Saints, called; Heretics.
We were the rider of the Red horse, of the church sponsored Kings that came after, leaving a river of blood by the sword.
We are the riders of the black horse of democracy with power balanced on the scales that are two legs, that will die in greed, money failure, famine and death, thus the riders are divided.
We elected, then reelected; The "Tall Dark man of the west" of Islamic prophecy, the "Blessing of Hussein, that is with us", as we abandoned our first commission; Eternal Vigilance and fell in love with Mammon and the Beast of Coveting.
We will submit to the Green horse of the New World order, of the Greens, that is called by the color of their flag; Islam.
(The Greek said green horse, not pale, the Catholic translators had a hard time with green horses...thus the curse is theirs to hold.)

The lady with 12 stars in her crown, clothed in the light of the Sun, while standing on the Moon, is thus delivered to The Chosen, in a New Song, and the Mystery of God of the Catholics and their Protesters, is finished.... The Imp is raised from the Bottomless, and the Gnosis lives again.
http://pipermichael.wordpress.com

(PS: I didn't start the religious stuff, so don't get on me about 'that stuff'. Do you have 'eyes that see', or do you listen to The Pharisee?)
 

Bubble Head

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TerryK, Well said, I am for Israel, Pray for her safety, pray for Natanyahu, and all the folks who live in Israel. And Israel will always be after all the Muslim countries are destroyed. She is back in her land to stay. Amen

Don't forget to say a prayer for the US should we try to help destroy Israel. GODs word is not to be taken lightly.
 

Garryowen

Deceased
oh and by the way, there will be a third and final temple built, now go read up on that.............

Mom,
IIRC, the third temple was the one built by Herod the Great, and destroyed by Titus in A.D.70. The next one, if it is a physical one, has yet to be built. The Temple Faithful, again IIRC, already have prepared materials for another rebuild when they have access to the site. It may take another war with Iran et. al. for this temple to be built.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
Am I the only one who is wondering if the "obama supporters" have been put up to this? How many of them even know anything about Israel, I thought they were too busy having mad on's about the 1%'ers.

That or they are muslims, which would not surprise me one iota.

Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
Am I the only one who is wondering if the "obama supporters" have been put up to this? How many of them even know anything about Israel, I thought they were too busy having mad on's about the 1%'ers.

That or they are muslims, which would not surprise me one iota.

Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem.


don't worry Israel can take care of itself, the main problem is that O may insist on a tiny Palestinian State on the West Bank, doubt if he will bother even if he wanted it
 

momof23goats

Deceased
I respectfully disagree with some . But I will say this, a jewish family could not have gone into Ireland to live? odd don't you think? and yes bagpiper, I am well aware of what your trying to say. I am also aware of the fact your trying to say I am saxon . well shock, I am not. now think of the cazr killing the jewish people, it was before ww1 or 2, many jewish familys left eastern europe.
but yo uthink what you want of me. I do know the scriptures and I do know family history.

I also can see obama's supporters, celabrating no Israel. he is after all muslim by birth.
He has thrown Israel under the bus. it is not the first time , that a leader has tossed the state of Israel, and the jewish people a side.
 

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Posts:9,400oh and by the way, there will be a third and final temple built, now go read up on that.............
Mom,
IIRC, the third temple was the one built by Herod the Great, and destroyed by Titus in A.D.70. The next one, if it is a physical one, has yet to be built. The Temple Faithful, again IIRC, already have prepared materials for another rebuild when they have access to the site. It may take another war with Iran et. al. for this temple to be built
 

momof23goats

Deceased
many people even those here in our country, are ready to toss Israel. I am not shocked that obama has people celabrating no more Israel. but they are wrong. GOD PROTECTS HIS FAMILY, they will never distroy Israel again. I will always pray for Israel, and if things get bad in this country, I have already listed my home as a home that will take jewish families.
 

Codeno

Veteran Member
Respect and care should go to His family. While some of the above posters seem to share the concept and practice of replacement theology, as for me and my house, we will bless Israel, and will stand with those who live in Israel to serve and honor Him. And even bless those who are in Israel, so that when Jesus comes, those who have missed His first coming, will recognize Him who they have pierced, and will weep, because they missed His first coming. I truly believe that the God of Abraham cares for those who live in Israel, the Jews, and yes, the True Jews who still worship the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.

And the same for me and my house Dave, good post.
 

Waz1152

Veteran Member
As a Christian, when I started to watch that trash and when Obamanuts opened their mouth, well that is a sign nothing but garbage is going to come out
Obama will be proud, and satan is rubbing his hands together for all these losers that are heading his way
I will side with Israel, don't care what many say, it is the chosen land of God for his people
 

vessie

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TerryK, Well said, I am for Israel, Pray for her safety, pray for Natanyahu, and all the folks who live in Israel. And Israel will always be after all the Muslim countries are destroyed. She is back in her land to stay. Amen

Amen Old as Dirt, Amen. V
 

maric

Short but deadly
As a Christian, when I started to watch that trash and when Obamanuts opened their mouth, well that is a sign nothing but garbage is going to come out
Obama will be proud, and satan is rubbing his hands together for all these losers that are heading his way
I will side with Israel, don't care what many say, it is the chosen land of God for his people

AMEN!
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Romans 9, 10, and 11.

A person would have to be a contortionist beyond the skills of most YOGA MASTERS, NOT to see that the "JEWS" referred to in those SCRIPTURES MEANS the physical sons of Abraham (of which Paul said he was one), and the GENTILES means those who are NOT, and that it is talking NOT about the "church" being saved but ISRAEL (physical, genetic Israel) being saved, and that GOD HAD NOT ABANDONED THEM.

"Let God be true, and EVERY MAN a LIAR."

I for one will NOT join with OBAMA THE LIAR to say that the JEWISH PEOPLE is not STILL GOD'S PEOPLE---and NOT because of their "worthiness" or LACK thereof---but because of GOD'S faithfulness and holiness.
 

Argonath

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Let me offer this....

If the Law was replaced by Grace and the Gospel of the Kingdom, where for the first time in the history of mankind (outside Eden), people had a direct connection to the Throne of God via the Holy Spirit being within a man.

Then why not the earthly LAND of Israel be replaced by the Spiritul Kingdom of God? Everything... and I mean EVERYTHING in the New Covenant is a parallel to the Old Covenant, only it is spiritual not physical.

So... if Yeshua provided the people of God (Jews) access to Him through the Spirit and the Kingdom, they WHY, in any shape or reason, does any Jew (or gentile grafted in), need a specific LAND, physical Temple, etc... when Jeremiah stated unequivically that the New Covenant suprecedes the Old, and under the Mosaic Covenant, most of the LAW was only applicale in the earthly land anyway.

Mosaic Law is no longer in force, the Temple is no longer an earthly structure, and the New Covenant, given to the JEW first, and then the gentile, shows there is NO PURPOSE AT ALL for an earthly land to be provided for the decendents of Abraham when their Messiah gave them an even greater option.

If Yeshua's Kingdom is not in Israel... then why would God keep a promise to a group of people who refused to accept His Son? AND... when He gave them an equivalent in the Kingdom of God which is even greater? Direct access 24/7 to His dominion?
 

bagpiper

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I respectfully disagree with some . But I will say this, a jewish family could not have gone into Ireland to live? odd don't you think? and yes bagpiper, I am well aware of what your trying to say. I am also aware of the fact your trying to say I am saxon . well shock, I am not. now think of the cazr killing the jewish people, it was before ww1 or 2, many jewish familys left eastern europe.
but yo uthink what you want of me. I do know the scriptures and I do know family history.

I also can see obama's supporters, celabrating no Israel. he is after all muslim by birth.
He has thrown Israel under the bus. it is not the first time , that a leader has tossed the state of Israel, and the jewish people a side.

I'm sorry momof23goats, that you took that as a personal attack? Wow. No. I was merely giving the source of one tribe, those who tried to keep their identity, and how words are important to the understanding of meanings. Mainly because over years, the meaning and spelling of words change. Like now, when I grew up, gay meant 'happy', now? Uh huh.
The fact that you take that as an insult is what I'm saying, we do not want to be associated with JOOOS, ever, no way, no how, we would rather be 'sons of cain' who are the true Gentiles. But nobody sees that, because, well, its been thousands of years and political correctness has conquered our minds through our feelings.

I think nothing bad of you, why would I? Nor do I think anything bad of gentiles, nor Jews. But, I will never do business with any more jews... personal experience. I do think the Jews will destroy themselves by their own arrogance. They think they are 'The Chosen', but they to, have lost the meaning of the words. The Chosen was originally those who were chosen for the spiritual gift of Fire, and you must admit, the Caucasian race, has brought forth the gift of fire, technology. It is we who creates most of the new breakthroughs, the rest is mere improvement upon our creation. The only sad thing is, through our own intransigence, and ignorance and love of mystery, we are divided and destroyed.

Our very intelligence and individuality, is our Achilles heel, because the creative gene is balanced by the gene of fear.
I support Israel, both of them, the land and the people, of all the 12 tribes of the Caucasian race. Believe what you will, but we are all of a common source, and we fight like brothers...
 

jtlc001

Contributing Member
Argonath

Interesting isnt it...

We have discussed the book the Harbingers, and its parallels to NYC, but forget that at the end of the biblical account, Judah repented, but Israel was forever removed.

So why did the Zionists, who trace their lineage to the Rothschild Khazars (who in the 10th century converted to Judaism by order the King... not BLOOD Jews), decide to recreate the land under the name Israel, and not Judah?

By the way.... In Revelation when they recreate the Temple, even this act is meaningless since the Spirit of God will never again reside i the Holy of Holies. With this context, the temple rebuilt is done at the behest of Anti-Christ, for him to enter in and declare himself god.

There is NO good thing that comes from the prophetic future of Israel's return, the rebuilding of the Temple, and those living in the 'land'. Perhaps I go a little too far... the only good thing is it prophesies our Lord's Return, but even Revelation says only a slight remnant of true Jewry will cry out in the end, "Blessed be He who comes in the Name of the Lord."

Exactly
 
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