CORONA POLL: New vaccinated / unvaccinated poll

[Capt. Eddie]

and after 2 years 28% have not had corona without the vax - which interests me because it implies that there are people with a natural immunity

Either that or there are a much higher number of asymptomatic cases than expected, especially among our membership which tends to be older and I would suspect have a relatively high number of comorbities due to age.

I would also suspect we are more likely to take responsibility for our own treatment and less likely to get tested.

 

[dstraito]

I wonder what this same poll would look like taken in the DU?

 

[Capt. Eddie]

I hate to even say it after my whipping but, as Dennis said there are several members no longer with us who can't vote and you do not know whether they were or not. It is only a poll of survivors.

Very good point Raven.

 

[raven]

Either that or there are a much higher number of asymptomatic cases than expected, especially among our membership which tends to be older and would suspect have a relatively high number of comorbities due to age.

I would also suspect we are more likely to take responsibility for our own treatment and less likely to get tested.

I am kind of counting asymptomatic as being immune.

 

[raven]

I heard something that sounded like good news and that was that having corona does confer immunity.
On the other had, I have no idea exactly what that means anymore.

 

[Siskiyoumom]

Absolutely wrong. We lost several members, and our members lost a bunch of family or friends. The only “100% lived” are the ones who are alive to answer the poll.

Understand?

We lost two wonderful members of our family directly due to Covid in 2020.
One had been hospitalized for months who then died on the day she was being discharged from Walter Reed Hospital after throwing a blood clot. The second went to the ER a couple of times terribly sick but not admitted because they deemed her not sick enough. She died at home in the arms of her teenage daughter after going home after being refused care at the ER. Both relatives were very healthy prior to getting Covid.

We think I had Covid in February 2020, ER refused to test me due to the protocol at the time. Doctor still refuses to order the antibody test. Not vaccinated. No idea if I have or not have had Covid. Dear daughter and son in law unvaccinated have had Covid.

 

[Countrymouse]

I know this poll won't answer who died, but the above posts in the "Brain Injury" thread got me curious. I feel very certain that the population of TB2K is in no way representative of the overall "vaccination" rate of the country, but I'm curious how far off we are. I made the poll private so there's no pressure to answer along the lines of what you precieve the board's opinion to be.

The most recent thread an advanced search turned up was this one...

https://www.timebomb2000.com/xf/index.php?threads/updated-poll-how-many-are-vaccinated-here.606325/

I agree with that. I expect the population here would return a skewed result as the vast majority of our membership were/are anti-Vax from the get-go.

 

[bracketquant]

you can't tell from the poll. it would have to include things like age, weight category (normal, overweight, obese), comorbidities, whether you are an athlete or politician (just kidding), cancer or cancer survivor. As well as Vitamin D levels.

There is a good deal they know as well as a good deal they aren't saying.

The results are interesting based on what has been discussed on this forum

I may not be able to tell from the poll, simply because it is a current small sample size. With a larger sample size, maybe the jabbed/unjabbed rates will change. But, an unjabbed rate of 83%+ is way out of the US norm.

Group, currently, we ain't normal.

 

[Countrymouse]

Interesting things to me:
82% are unvaxed - higher than the government advertises.
60% had corona
40% haven't
6% were vaxed and had corona anyway

and after 2 years 28% have not had corona without the vax - which interests me because it implies that there are people with a natural immunity because in the society we live in, it is virtually impossible to avoid exposure. Everything you buy and bring home regardless of packaging is pretty much guaranteed to have some level of contamination.

Blood type O Pos.

(I do take covid seriously. Either "it" or something else does exist and should be taken seriously. I have my ivermectin (prescription and horse paste), Vit D, Zinc, C, Magnesium, etc., and I "cured" one of my comorbidities - obesity. I lost 60 pounds, went from a size 44 pant to a size 34. I weigh less than when ran 6 miles a day 6 days a week in the military - that is pretty serious)

Oh Lordy raven PLEASE share your diet protocol and how long it took you to lose those 60 pounds!

 

[raven]

We lost two wonderful members of our family directly due to Covid in 2020.
One had been hospitalized for months who then died on the day she was being discharged from Walter Reed Hospital after throwing a blood clot. The second went to the ER a couple of times terribly sick but not admitted because they deemed her not sick enough. She died at home in the arms of her teenage daughter after going home after being refused care at the ER. Both relatives were very healthy prior to getting Covid.

We think I had Covid in February 2020, ER refused to test me due to the protocol at the time. Doctor still refuses to order the antibody test. Not vaccinated. No idea if I have or not have had Covid. Dear daughter and son in law unvaccinated have had Covid.

Grandson has had positive test twice. About like a cold. No special medical treatment provided.

Daughter had it very bad. Sick for weeks. Disabled Veteran. Diagnose by VA and no special medical treatment other the antibiotics. And after 2 years she still has no taste or smell and they got nothing to help. She has lost enough weight due to not being able to eat (everything taste like chemicals) that she looked like an anorexic teenager. She was here for three months and sweeties cooking got her back to a normal weight but it was not easy.

 

[rob0126]

Out of curiosity, how many of you that didnt get covid, smoke?

 

[Fairwillows]

3 days of covid and ivermectin. Caught it 2 1/2 years after pandemic started. Daughter is fully vaxed and has had covid 5 times!!! Housemate o+ unvaxed didn't catch covid. My Grandsons brought it home from school, I'm convinced.

 

[SusieSunshine]

DH and I are both unvaxed. We had something in January '21. We were both exhausted for about 3 weeks. No other symptoms, no test. Was it COVID? We don't know. Neither of us do well in cold, gray weather. We are sunshine people! And we are old.

 

[summerthyme]

What I find surprising is that over 28% (at the time I'm posting) are un"vaccinated" AND have not had covid. I was actually expecting to see much higher number of all categories having had it. Wonder how many had asymptomatic cases, oh well there's no way we'll ever know.

Well, technically, I haven't had COVID... not tested and certified.

But since the one who brought it home in May was tested positive, it's most likely it was COVID. Except for the brutal exhaustion, which has only really resolved in the past few weeks, I would have just thought I had the flu.

It wouldn't surprise me that quite a few who think they never had it, had symptoms they wrote off as "allergies " or "a cold", which actually was COVID.

Summerthyme

 

[theruminator]

Out of curiosity, how many of you that didnt get covid, smoke?

Well I smoke. Not vaccinated. Don't know if I had Covid. Never got tested.

 

[naegling62]

I'll vote Monday. I'm seeing my endocrinologist Monday and they added a VitD and SARS-CoV-2 antibody test to my blood work.

It will be interesting because I had Kent and Omicron in my household over the years.

 

[theruminator]

Oh and forgot to add I did not get sick with any thing.

 

[naegling62]

Well I smoke. Not vaccinated. Don't know if I had Covid. Never got tested.

Current smokers were actually better off. Ex smokers worse.

 

[naegling62]

Out of curiosity, how many of you that didnt get covid, smoke?

My brother, a doctor, concurs with the idea that smoking actually reduced infection. Ex smokers though had it rough.

 

[ainitfunny]

I smoke too, LOTS. I smoke more since covid started. I am unvaccinated, and UNTESTED for "covid" , but MAY HAVE had OMICRON LAST September, when I lost my sense of smell and taste. I have slowly recovered some small portion of a few smells
Most, like strawberries and cucumbers and raspberries are just gone. I WONDER IF I can smell fresh bread? ( haven't had any fresh baked bread)

 

[raven]

Oh Lordy raven PLEASE share your diet protocol and how long it took you to lose those 60 pounds!

I have on other threads.
It was 2.5 pounds a week, ever week. Took 26 weeks. 6 months.
I used Keto. I purchased a Keto-Mojo meter to measure blood glucose and ketones and use it daily. I looked up my Macros on the internet. I used carb manager to determine carbs, protein, and fat for everything I eat.
I built a meal plan that I could stick to (although I may be the only person you will ever meet that will eat the same thing day in and day out for 6 months). I have 2 eggs and 2 bacon for breakfast. Quarter pound hamburger patty w/cheese and one serving of green beans for dinner. And lunch is some combination of almonds, cheese, and pepperoni for lunch and snacks. I record everything I eat along with fat, protein, and carbs after every meal.

The keto meter was very beneficial because I quickly found out the things I absolutely can't eat which is actually different for everyone.
Me? OMG, I cannot eat rice - ever - It will kick me out of ketosis for days. Those Digiorno Pizzas? Forget about it. However, I can split a small thin crust pepperoni pizza from Pizza Hut and be back in ketosis the next day (hoorah).
No bread. Keto tortillas are ok as long as I check the carbs.
You get the idea.

And the keto diet is not about protein, although I found I was not eating enough. It is about eating more fat, which is really difficult. Yes, not eating carbs is difficult but those are mostly cravings that are the result of eating carbs.

Today I went to a restaurant. I had a 1/3 pound chopped steak with bacon sautéed onions, and a side of cottage cheese. Then I went to tractor supply and bought a pair of slim fit, cowboy cut jeans with a size 34 waist.
And funny enough, my back no longer hurts and I can walk upright like a human - but that might just be the result of not carrying around an extra 60 pounds all the time.

Oh yea, I forgot the disclaimer.
I ain't a doctor. This ain't a prescription. Results may vary. Ain't no guarantee.

 

[Capt. Eddie]

Out of curiosity, how many of you that didnt get covid, smoke?

I smoke, got it during the Delta wave.

 

[raven]

My brother, a doctor, concurs with the idea that smoking actually reduced infection. Ex smokers though had it rough.

Ivermectin is a horse wormer. You know what they used to use to worm horses? Tobacco.
Personally, I think humans are just wormy.
Get rid of the worms and your immune system can handle everything else.
(That could be a joke . . . maybe . . . LOL . . . . . . you are on your own)

 

[Capt. Eddie]

Current smokers were actually better off. Ex smokers worse.

My brother, a doctor, concurs with the idea that smoking actually reduced infection. Ex smokers though had it rough.

That has been my anecdotal experience also as far as smokers vs former smokers I've known who got it.

Smoking was also reported as being inversely correlated with negative outcomes in the very early reports out of several (mostly European) countries.

 

[Capt. Eddie]

Ivermectin is a horse wormer. You know what they used to use to worm horses? Tobacco.

The early studies I mentioned above indicated that nicotine bonds with one of the sites that the virus uses to enter the cell and was therefore blocking infection. I'm sure such studies were immediately buried and their authors crucified. Can't have a bad habit cutting into big pharma's profits.

 

[summerthyme]

I have on other threads.
It was 2.5 pounds a week, ever week. Took 26 weeks. 6 months.
I used Keto. I purchased a Keto-Mojo meter to measure blood glucose and ketones and use it daily. I looked up my Macros on the internet. I used carb manager to determine carbs, protein, and fat for everything I eat.
I built a meal plan that I could stick to (although I may be the only person you will ever meet that will eat the same thing day in and day out for 6 months). I have 2 eggs and 2 bacon for breakfast. Quarter pound hamburger patty w/cheese and one serving of green beans for dinner. And lunch is some combination of almonds, cheese, and pepperoni for lunch and snacks. I record everything I eat along with fat, protein, and carbs after every meal.

The keto meter was very beneficial because I quickly found out the things I absolutely can't eat which is actually different for everyone.
Me? OMG, I cannot eat rice - ever - It will kick me out of ketosis for days. Those Digiorno Pizzas? Forget about it. However, I can split a small thin crust pepperoni pizza from Pizza Hut and be back in ketosis the next day (hoorah).
No bread. Keto tortillas are ok as long as I check the carbs.
You get the idea.

And the keto diet is not about protein, although I found I was not eating enough. It is about eating more fat, which is really difficult. Yes, not eating carbs is difficult but those are mostly cravings that are the result of eating carbs.

Today I went to a restaurant. I had a 1/3 pound chopped steak with bacon sautéed onions, and a side of cottage cheese. Then I went to tractor supply and bought a pair of slim fit, cowboy cut jeans with a size 34 waist.
And funny enough, my back no longer hurts and I can walk upright like a human - but that might just be the result of not carrying around an extra 60 pounds all the time.

Your hips and knees will thank you, as well!

I've got healthy joints, but my spine is a disaster. Every time I carry more than 50#,I can feel it compressing my spine, and also stressing my joints. And I think about some of the heavy people I see, and think, "no wonder they need mobility scooters! They are carrying around one to three sacks of feed... every step of the day! Oooh... the pain!"

Summerthyme

 

[rbt]

I’ve had Covid, am unvaxed, give ivermectin to the horses, worm cattle with it, figured I might as well have some to.

 

[Idaho 2O]

I’m un vaxed. I got COVID from doing CPR on a lady who died of diabetes, and she just happened to have COVID but was asymptomatic. She just had part of her foot amputated and had just gotten back from the hospital when she keeled over. She had stacks of cases of Dr Pepper in her living room.

Anyway, I got pretty sick because I wasn’t taking care of myself. I used the time off work to catch up on work around the property. I had a video conference with my doctor who prescribed me ivermectin. i Took it, and was up and running three days later. That stuff works!

 

[theruminator]

Early on in the pandemic I remember that Phillip Morris put in a bid to develop a vaccine during the Warp Speed period of development of a vaccine. They were denied any participation..

 

[Creeper]

I am quintuple vaxed ( 3 boosters). I caught covid, omicron or above, months after my 2nd booster. Had a dry cough and fatigue for a few days. I didn't test positive at all till the symptoms were almost gone ( rapid and PCR tests).

 

[TammyinWI]

I have no trust or faith whatsoever in the PCR tests used to detect "COVID." They are tooled to give false positives. I am of the camp that they are a total farce, theragrippers and all!

 

[patriotgal]

Buried 3 varied family members who were healthy til the jab then died. Friend died day after getting jab. Again, healthy, young. Couple acquaintances now have myocarditis. They are in their 40's. Sat with a friend who is a chemist as she bawled herself sick over the fact that she won't have grandchildren- whichever shot her daughter got contained ingredients that sterilize you. I do believe it is a bioweapon but I also belive God is bigger.

 

[Great Northwet]

Great Poll Capt. Eddie.

I voted other. I'm a state employee of WA and had to get it to keep my job. I just got the two jabs(Pfizer). The second one was late March of '20. The boosters were recommended but I didn't take them because so much was beginning to surface over side effects.

I've had covid twice. The first time was over Memorial Day weekend last year. It was a cold called Omicron. Severity on a scale of 1-10 was a 5/6 so just a normal cold in very late May/early June. Second time 8 weeks later in August. I developed a lingering cough-it was just phlegm that I had to clear about every 20-30 minutes but the bosses at work made me take another covid test and it came up positive again. So I had to take another week off until I tested negative. Severity on a scale of 1-10 was 1, or 0. So I just went fishing and stuff

 

[AlaskaSue]

Interesting things to me:
82% are unvaxed - higher than the government advertises.
60% had corona
40% haven't
6% were vaxed and had corona anyway

and after 2 years 28% have not had corona without the vax - which interests me because it implies that there are people with a natural immunity because in the society we live in, it is virtually impossible to avoid exposure. Everything you buy and bring home regardless of packaging is pretty much guaranteed to have some level of contamination.

Blood type O Pos.

(I do take covid seriously. Either "it" or something else does exist and should be taken seriously. I have my ivermectin (prescription and horse paste), Vit D, Zinc, C, Magnesium, etc., and I "cured" one of my comorbidities - obesity. I lost 60 pounds, went from a size 44 pant to a size 34. I weigh less than when ran 6 miles a day 6 days a week in the military - that is pretty serious)

I'm also O Pos. Not vaxxed, no cv. I've read something of possible blood type involvement a few other times but it's one of those TIFWIW things.

Faithfully taking, as required by surgeon and physicians since 2018 emergency surgery, dry D, Zinc, 3400 mg Liposomal C (1 capsule X four separate times), Melatonin, Magnesium, Potassium, Iron and a lot of Bs - in addition to twice daily multi-vits - and have been taking Olive Leaf extract for a few years. I have Ivermectin but have never used it; also lots of outdoor activity plus working out several times a week.

I'd thought maybe I had early, undiagnosed CV Jan 2020 in Fl. However my DDIL, an excellent PA, along with three other physicians said no, I'd not had it. Only tested for cv one time to enter ER.

Just throwing more data out there. I don't know that any of it means anything; just my experience. YMMV of course

 

[diamonds]

How is this thread different from this one? I can add more for the "Why did you take the shot?" threads..

CORONA - UPDATE – So, You Did Not Take the COVID-19 Shot, Why Not?

WOW!! Sundance currently has 2,290 responses to his question! ....and I'm going to read a lot of them. I'll answer his question in a reply post here and on his forum, but it's a great question. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/01/13/so-you-did-not-take-the-covid-19-shot-why-not/...

www.timebomb2000.com

 

[Abe Froman]

Unvaccinated, can't be sure if I had it because I never took a test.

Same!

 

[Bumblepuff]

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[Babs]

Folks, I am unjabbed and O+ and I've had Covid twice.

Also, I live in North Idaho and my guess is the compliance rate here would be similar to the board's. I only know a couple of people out of hundreds that have actually taken the jab.

I also believe that they are lying about the percentage of vaxxed Americans.

 

[meandk0610]

We haven’t had COVID as far as we know, but we wear N95 masks indoors (around others) due to my somewhat wonky immune system.

 

[Dobbin]

I voted on the basis of what I know about Owner.

He did get the initial Pfizer "two shot." He said he was not sure, but there was talk about a vaccine passport and decided to buy in in case this became fact. "Besides," he says, "There may be something in it."

Turns out there was. But not much good.

By the time the first booster came along for his age group, the adverse effects were starting to become known. Owner says "I've had one heart attack - I don't need another one."

He deferred on the booster1, and again on the booster 2, and again on booster 3.

In fact he's deferred also on renewing his "Flu vaccine" which he has taken once in the past, but now he dares not in case they pull a "quickie" and combine the vaccines. Or - more possibly - use Recombinant Technology to create the latest flu vaccine.

Recombinant offers "cost savings" in creation of vaccine mass quantities.

He's also decided to defer on the "shingles" vaccine which he has heard was now supplied using the recombinant technology.

Dobbin