GUNS/RLTD Republicans say (IL) FOID should be void if illegal immigrants can possess guns

Macgyver

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Republicans say FOID should be void if illegal immigrants can possess guns



Republicans are both condemning and praising a recent federal judge ruling about illegal immigrants being able to carry firearms for protection.

Earlier this month, Northern District of Illinois federal Judge Sharon Johnson Coleman ruled in favor of Heriberto Carbajal-Flores, a foreign national in the u.S. illegally who was charged with unlawful possession of a firearm. She said the law violates the Second Amendment as applied in this one case.

“The Court finds that Carbajal-Flores’ criminal record, containing no improper use of a weapon, as well as the non-violent circumstances of his arrest do not support a finding that he poses a risk to public safety such that he cannot be trusted to use a weapon responsibly and should be deprived of his Second Amendment right to bear arms in self-defense,” the judge wrote. “Thus, this Court finds that, as applied to Carbajal-Flores, Section 922(g)(5) is unconstitutional.”

State Rep. Dan Caulkins, R-Decatur, questioned where local law enforcement, the Illinois Attorney General or gun control advocates were on this case. But Friday on the House Floor, he praised the decision, saying that standard means Illinois’ Firearm Owners ID card should be struck down.

“Why shouldn’t gun owners across the state cut up our FOID cards and be able to buy guns out of state with no worry,” Caulkins said. “If a person who is not legally in this state can have his constitutional rights, so can the rest of us.”

Illinois State Police confirm that in order to get a FOID card, one has to attest that they are "not an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States."

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Separately, Illinois state Reps. Dan Caulkins, R-Decatur, and John Cabello, R-Machesney Park, discuss illegal immigrants and firearms.

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State Rep. John Cabello agreed if the FOID card could be found null under such a ruling, that’s a good thing.

“But with this radical judge, we’ve got to make sure that we protect our citizens,” Cabello told The Center Square.

Cabello filed House Bill 5790 Friday that he said clarifies that illegal immigrants cannot become law enforcement and detain legal citizens.

Last year, legislators approved and the governor signed House Bill 3751. The law says someone “who is legally authorized under federal law to work in the United States and is authorized under federal law to obtain, carry, or purchase or otherwise possess a firearm, or who is an individual against whom immigration action has been deferred by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services under the federal Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) process and is authorized under federal law to obtain, carry, or purchase or otherwise possess a firearm.

Cabello supported the measure then. But Friday, he said his HB5790 clarifies things.

“We got a little nervous about what [the judge] might do next, so we filed a bill to make sure that cannot happen,” Cabello told The Center Square. “We cannot in any way shape or form have a non-citizen of the United States arrest citizens of the United States.”

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Dobbin

Faithful Steed
And the legal "adjustments" to "accommodate" the Illegals continue to be discovered, debated, and passed as law.

Might it make more sense to go back to GROUND ZERO - and deport them all?

But that would not give the Marxists the leverage they need to overturn the country.

Which starts with a mercenary force of non-producers.

"All you need to do is enter the country and eat. We'll handle the rest."

Dobbin
 

Bps1691

Veteran Member
Never understood how the FOID wasn’t thrown out at the SCOTUS decades ago .

It requires a fee to be paid every five years. It limits the God given right to protect your person with an appropriate tool thus violating the second amendment’s restrictions on government to make NO laws infringing upon this right.

The ILL-state law that went into effect on Jan 1 is a total infringement of this clause as well and the SCOTUS has already ruled that the clause also applies to the states.

They have struck down Chicago and the states previously unconstitutional laws with the heller decision and the as*clown government just comes back for another violation even worse.
 

Macgyver

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Never understood how the FOID wasn’t thrown out at the SCOTUS decades ago .

It requires a fee to be paid every five years. It limits the God given right to protect your person with an appropriate tool thus violating the second amendment’s restrictions on government to make NO laws infringing upon this right.

The ILL-state law that went into effect on Jan 1 is a total infringement of this clause as well and the SCOTUS has already ruled that the clause also applies to the states.

They have struck down Chicago and the states previously unconstitutional laws with the heller decision and the as*clown government just comes back for another violation even worse.
NJ has it as well although it's called an fid.
I don't remember how much it was but it never expires.
 

Signwatcher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
And the legal "adjustments" to "accommodate" the Illegals continue to be discovered, debated, and passed as law.

Might it make more sense to go back to GROUND ZERO - and deport them all?

But that would not give the Marxists the leverage they need to overturn the country.

Which starts with a mercenary force of non-producers.

"All you need to do is enter the country and eat. We'll handle the rest."

Dobbin

Deport the Illegals and the political traitors they rode in on.
 

robclement

Contributing Member
I live in ilinois,down in the sane part.The state has been slapped down numerous times,but they never stop.They say,oh lets try wording it like this that will work.We pay taxes out the,well you know the thing,illegals have all the rights and I have to pay for it.Most of us downstate ignore chicago,most Sheriffs too refused to enforce his gun laws.We would love to gtfo of here just not possible.Now if someone has like 10 acres in rural MO I might be up for that.
 
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