TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
After 1917, Russia gained population via annexation of other countries. Often via "aggressive negotiations".
INTL Russian government resigns.
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mistaken1
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It takes 2.1 children per woman for a given generation to replace itself, and U.S. births have been below replacement level since 2007.
On that front, Russia confronts a perfect storm - as fertility rates plummeted to 1.2 births per women in the late 1990s and now stand at 1.7 births per women. "Russia's population will most likely decline in the coming decades, perhaps reaching an eventual size in 2100 that's similar to its 1950 level of around 100 million," write demographers Joseph Chamie and Barry Mirkin.
On that front, Russia confronts a perfect storm - as fertility rates plummeted to 1.2 births per women in the late 1990s and now stand at 1.7 births per women. "Russia's population will most likely decline in the coming decades, perhaps reaching an eventual size in 2100 that's similar to its 1950 level of around 100 million," write demographers Joseph Chamie and Barry Mirkin.
Sherrynboo
Veteran Member
I wish ours would!
Doc1
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Seeker, understand that I'm not trying to be a "Russian apologist," but western governments are guilty of the same sort of things - and try to put a better face on it: Julian Assange, Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc., etc., etc. I'm an old Cold Warrior, so tend to see contemporary Russia in terms of a comparison with the Stalin and Brezhnev eras. By those lights, Russia is incomparably better today - and I encourage their continued reform. As I've noted on these pages many times, we - that is the US - endlessly demonize Russia and yet we bend over backwards to stay on good terms with and get trade deals with Red China. Communist China is a dictatorship, still has their equivalent of the gulags and virtually no political freedom. Basically, they are a softer and more prosperous version of North Korea.
TPTB here - and by extension the MSM - have a deep and vested interest in the anti-Russia narrative. Personally, I think it's getting old.
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Doc
intothatgoodnight
. . .
A Russian version of martial law?
Russian government deep state cleaning event?
Timing is interesting, considering how Team Putin has been a necessary and successful stabilizing force in Syria, and the ME in general, as a counter to ongoing western deep state mayhem - and a big enough attack dog that the Turks and others tip-toe around Team Putin.
Why do I think that hardcore Team Trump members were well aware of this change of guard before it was publicly announced - perhaps (speculating, here) even supportive?
What is China saying about this development?
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Seeker22
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Tyranny is tyranny, whether here or in Russia. Things are better now, but I wonder if that is just the side we get to see through the lens of our oh-so-unbiased mediah. I agree, it is getting old.
AlfaMan
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Folks, look at the news reports. He's pulling a Winnie the Xi move.
He gets rid of the current cabinet ministers, makes the Duma a rubber stamp operation, and he's increasing the powers of the state council, which is like a committee of all the federal territory ministers. (In our context, a committee comprised of governors of all the states). Guess who currently runs the state council? Why Vlad the slick bast*rd of course.
Vlad runs the state council-they make a decision, Vlad okays it and sends it to the Duma (their version of our congress, except even MORE corrupt, malleable and slimy than our own.). Duma rubberstamps it (of course, otherwise their oblasts/districts don't get federal funding for roads, medical services, etc. Sound familiar?) and it becomes law.
What you're looking at is the reintroduction of the Politburo (through the state council) and a chairman of the party (Vlad the liberty impaler). The Duma is what it always has been-nothing more than a rubberstamp for whatever the politburo/state council wants.
Oh, and the head of the state council is an appointed post (think Medvedev appointed him way back when he was pres the first time) and guess what-there is no term limit...............
Russia is eventually going back to a more communist bend to it's government. Call it friendly fascism if you will. But Putin is ressurecting the politburo, one party govt. and who knows, the state council may find it more efficient to issue funds to the oblasts based on 5 year plans............
Democracy is a flame that is quickly being put out in Russia.
That's what all this means.
He gets rid of the current cabinet ministers, makes the Duma a rubber stamp operation, and he's increasing the powers of the state council, which is like a committee of all the federal territory ministers. (In our context, a committee comprised of governors of all the states). Guess who currently runs the state council? Why Vlad the slick bast*rd of course.
Vlad runs the state council-they make a decision, Vlad okays it and sends it to the Duma (their version of our congress, except even MORE corrupt, malleable and slimy than our own.). Duma rubberstamps it (of course, otherwise their oblasts/districts don't get federal funding for roads, medical services, etc. Sound familiar?) and it becomes law.
What you're looking at is the reintroduction of the Politburo (through the state council) and a chairman of the party (Vlad the liberty impaler). The Duma is what it always has been-nothing more than a rubberstamp for whatever the politburo/state council wants.
Oh, and the head of the state council is an appointed post (think Medvedev appointed him way back when he was pres the first time) and guess what-there is no term limit...............
Russia is eventually going back to a more communist bend to it's government. Call it friendly fascism if you will. But Putin is ressurecting the politburo, one party govt. and who knows, the state council may find it more efficient to issue funds to the oblasts based on 5 year plans............
Democracy is a flame that is quickly being put out in Russia.
That's what all this means.
naegling62
Veteran Member
Interesting view point.
desertvet2
Veteran Member
A great culling is coming Globally.
When I read about this I was more than a little concerned. I find it odd that it is happening now. I just recently found out that the entire legislature of Kansas was loaded on buses to a dept. of Homeland Security location and given a briefing. The little I learned is they were advised of nuclear war. Putting the 2 together made me even more nervous. .
FreedomoftheHills
Contributing Member
I think this comes come close to the truth, and also explains why so many around the world are squealing about this move. The changes which relate to eligibility for office are all about succession--who will come after Putin? Moves are being made to ensure that this person will be free of undue foreign influence:
Presidential Address to the Federal Assembly
The President of Russia delivered the Address to the Federal Assembly. The ceremony took place at the Manezh Central Exhibition Hall.
en.kremlin.ru
If we had similar provisions here in the US, many currently serving in Congress who are dual citizens would be disqualified, and we might well be better off!
But understandably outside forces (we would call them Deep State influences over here, Soros and his ilk) who want to take Russia in a different direction after Putin leaves office have serious problems with these proposed changes, as their opportunities for influence would be greatly reduced.
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Ractivist
Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Every where you look, you see governments hosing their people.....and the people are rising up to contest the chains.
I suspect the Russian people will have a significant response to this...... will it lead to massive protests, or more chains?
This is not good, as it gives the hot button to Putin, solely. Yes, it's getting more and more dangerous.
I suspect the Russian people will have a significant response to this...... will it lead to massive protests, or more chains?
This is not good, as it gives the hot button to Putin, solely. Yes, it's getting more and more dangerous.
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Russia’s new PM a career bureaucrat with no political aims
By DARIA LITVINOVA37 minutes ago
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In this photo taken on Thursday, Nov. 21, 2019, Russian Tax Service chief Mikhail Mishustin speaks to Russian President Vladimir Putin during their meeting in the Kremlin in Moscow, Russia. Putin has on Wednesday, Jan. 15, 2020 named Tax Service chief Mikhail Mishustin as Russia's new prime minister. The 53-year-old Mishustin has worked in the government since 1998. Mishustin has a kept low profile while serving as the head of the Federal Tax Service since 2010. (Mikhail Klimentyev, Sputnik, Kremlin Pool Photo via AP, File)
MOSCOW (AP) — Mikhail Mishustin never had any political ambitions as a career bureaucrat and his name didn’t come up as a top candidate to become Russia’s next prime minister.
But the 53-year-old Mishustin, the longtime chief of Russia’s tax service, was tapped for the post by President Vladimir Putin. The lower house of Russia’s parliament, the Duma, quickly appointed Mishustin as prime minister on Thursday.
Putin put Mishustin’s candidacy forward on Wednesday night, several hours after Dmitry Medvedev resigned along with the whole Cabinet. Just before that, Putin proposed sweeping changes to the constitution that could keep him in power well past the end of his term in 2024.
As a career bureaucrat who has been in charge of Russia’s taxes for the past 10 years, Mishustin has always kept a low profile and stayed away from politics. He doesn’t belong to a political party and in rare interviews prefers to talk about innovations in tax administration.
The move sent shockwaves through Russia’s political elite and left them pondering about future Cabinet appointments.
Mishustin has been hailed for modernizing Russia’s rigid tax administration system and boosting tax collection rates. Government officials and businessmen describe him as a professional and effective manager who understands the economy well, which makes him a good fit for the Cabinet during a time when Russia’s economy is weakened.
“The main tasks for the new prime minister will come from the necessity to modernize the economy,” Abbas Gallyamov, a former Kremlin speech writer turned independent political analyst, wrote in a Facebook post. “Mishustin has a reputation of a person who has this experience.”
Mishustin’s lack of political ambition or any political experience indicates that he is likely to dutifully carry out the Kremlin’s wishes as the head of the Cabinet — which some commentators point out is especially important in the “transition period” of constitutional reforms proposed by Putin.
Mishustin, who has a degree in information technology, has been a state official for the past two decades. His career kicked off in 1998, when he became deputy head of the State Tax Service.
In 2010, after a two-year stint at a private investment firm, Mishustin returned to the tax service, this time as its chief and handpicked by Putin, then himself a prime minister. Having earned around $2.6 million in 2009, Mishustin was the third-richest state official in Russia at the time.
Over the years, Mishustin “has created a cutting-edge tax service from the ground up, using modern technologies and (means of) digital economy,” said Vyacheslav Volodin, the speaker of Russia’s lower house of parliament.
Under Mishustin, the tax service launched two vast data centers that collected invoices from businesses and information from retail cash registers, ensuring better control of cash flows. Mishustin also introduced a variety of online services that made paying taxes easier in an effort to raise tax collection rates.
In November, he proudly reported that the amount of successfully collected taxes had increased by 1.4 times since 2014. The share of tax revenues in the country’s gross domestic product had also grown by 4 percentage points, while value-added tax collection rose by 64%.
Mishustin’s track record inspired hopes that as prime minister, he would be able to shake up the country’s stagnating economy — something Russians have been increasingly frustrated about in recent years.
apnews.com
By DARIA LITVINOVA37 minutes ago
1 of 8
In this photo taken on Thursday, Nov. 21, 2019, Russian Tax Service chief Mikhail Mishustin speaks to Russian President Vladimir Putin during their meeting in the Kremlin in Moscow, Russia. Putin has on Wednesday, Jan. 15, 2020 named Tax Service chief Mikhail Mishustin as Russia's new prime minister. The 53-year-old Mishustin has worked in the government since 1998. Mishustin has a kept low profile while serving as the head of the Federal Tax Service since 2010. (Mikhail Klimentyev, Sputnik, Kremlin Pool Photo via AP, File)
MOSCOW (AP) — Mikhail Mishustin never had any political ambitions as a career bureaucrat and his name didn’t come up as a top candidate to become Russia’s next prime minister.
But the 53-year-old Mishustin, the longtime chief of Russia’s tax service, was tapped for the post by President Vladimir Putin. The lower house of Russia’s parliament, the Duma, quickly appointed Mishustin as prime minister on Thursday.
Putin put Mishustin’s candidacy forward on Wednesday night, several hours after Dmitry Medvedev resigned along with the whole Cabinet. Just before that, Putin proposed sweeping changes to the constitution that could keep him in power well past the end of his term in 2024.
As a career bureaucrat who has been in charge of Russia’s taxes for the past 10 years, Mishustin has always kept a low profile and stayed away from politics. He doesn’t belong to a political party and in rare interviews prefers to talk about innovations in tax administration.
The move sent shockwaves through Russia’s political elite and left them pondering about future Cabinet appointments.
Mishustin has been hailed for modernizing Russia’s rigid tax administration system and boosting tax collection rates. Government officials and businessmen describe him as a professional and effective manager who understands the economy well, which makes him a good fit for the Cabinet during a time when Russia’s economy is weakened.
“The main tasks for the new prime minister will come from the necessity to modernize the economy,” Abbas Gallyamov, a former Kremlin speech writer turned independent political analyst, wrote in a Facebook post. “Mishustin has a reputation of a person who has this experience.”
Mishustin’s lack of political ambition or any political experience indicates that he is likely to dutifully carry out the Kremlin’s wishes as the head of the Cabinet — which some commentators point out is especially important in the “transition period” of constitutional reforms proposed by Putin.
Mishustin, who has a degree in information technology, has been a state official for the past two decades. His career kicked off in 1998, when he became deputy head of the State Tax Service.
In 2010, after a two-year stint at a private investment firm, Mishustin returned to the tax service, this time as its chief and handpicked by Putin, then himself a prime minister. Having earned around $2.6 million in 2009, Mishustin was the third-richest state official in Russia at the time.
Over the years, Mishustin “has created a cutting-edge tax service from the ground up, using modern technologies and (means of) digital economy,” said Vyacheslav Volodin, the speaker of Russia’s lower house of parliament.
Under Mishustin, the tax service launched two vast data centers that collected invoices from businesses and information from retail cash registers, ensuring better control of cash flows. Mishustin also introduced a variety of online services that made paying taxes easier in an effort to raise tax collection rates.
In November, he proudly reported that the amount of successfully collected taxes had increased by 1.4 times since 2014. The share of tax revenues in the country’s gross domestic product had also grown by 4 percentage points, while value-added tax collection rose by 64%.
Mishustin’s track record inspired hopes that as prime minister, he would be able to shake up the country’s stagnating economy — something Russians have been increasingly frustrated about in recent years.
Russia's new PM a career bureaucrat with no political aims
MOSCOW (AP) — Mikhail Mishustin never had any political ambitions as a career bureaucrat and his name didn't come up as a top candidate to become Russia's next prime minister...
apnews.com
bbbuddy
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Can you give us a little more info, such as, how you "found out", from whom, how reliable is the info, when did this happen, etc?
If this happened in Kansas, would it make sense that it is being done in all the States? Or - what gives Kansas a special need to know vs neighboring states?
SouthernBreeze
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^^^This^^^ I totally agree.
EMICT
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DHS gives Kansas legislators 'routine security briefing' at Forbes Field
Kansas Rep. Stephanie Clayton, representing the state's 19th district in Overland Park says the U.S. Department of Homeland Security provided a "routine briefing" at Forbes Field in Topeka.
www.kwch.com
OPEKA, Kan. (AP) — Update 3 p.m. Tuesday, Jan. 14, 2019
Kansas Rep. Stephanie Clayton, representing the state's 19th district in Overland Park says the U.S. Department of Homeland Security provided a "routine briefing" at Forbes Field in Topeka.
Rep. Clayton says legislators had a chance to tour the facility. There was no indication of a threat or safety emergency aimed at the state capitol.
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The U.S. Department of Homeland Security is giving Kansas legislators extraordinary private briefings about undisclosed security issues.
Kansas House members boarded National Guard buses Tuesday for a briefing at a former Air Force base south of Topeka involving DHS and arranged by Kansas Attorney General Derek Schmidt’s office. Democrats had a separate briefing first, followed by Republicans.
Reporters and staffers were not allowed on the buses before they left the Statehouse. Deputy Attorney General Jay Scott Emler, a former state Senate majority leader, said in a letter Tuesday to the Kansas House speaker that the briefings should be given in closed party caucuses, which are allowed under the state’s open meetings law.
Emler’s letter said only that the briefings concerned issues that legislators “may encounter in the course of their official duties.” Lawmakers knew little about the content ahead of time.
“We’re anticipating it’s something to do with cybersecurity, but we don’t know,” House Speaker Ron Ryckman Jr., a Kansas City-area Republican, told reporters ahead of the GOP briefing.
Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley, a Topeka Democrat and the Legislature’s longest-serving member, said he cannot recall a similar briefing in his 44 years as a lawmaker. Senators expect their DHS briefings by next week.
DHS briefs Kansas lawmakers on business, agriculture threats
Foreign governments are trying to get proprietary information about Kansas business and agricultural assets, state legislators heard Tuesday in extraordinary, secret briefings with a U. S. Department of Homeland Security official, according to participants. Lawmakers who attended one of the...
nebraska.tv
TOPEKA, Kan. — Foreign governments are trying to get proprietary information about Kansas business and agricultural assets, state legislators heard Tuesday in extraordinary, secret briefings with a U.S. Department of Homeland Security official, according to participants.
Lawmakers who attended one of the unclassified briefings also said they were warned to be careful about opening emails from foreign sources.
They also said they did not hear about immediate threats.
“We need to be careful in responding to people because everyone's looking for an in, some way, somehow,” said state Rep. Jim Gartner, a Topeka Democrat who attended the first briefing. “That was the gist of it.”
Legislators saw the briefings as highly unusual because they were conducted on a former Air Force base south of Topeka.
Lawmakers were required to ride to the site in unmarked and whitewashed National Guard buses, with lawmakers assigned to specific buses.
Staffers and reporters were not allowed to go.
Democratic Gov. Laura Kelly's administration acknowledged Tuesday that the briefings were set up at her request in coordination with the state's director of homeland security and Republican Kansas Attorney General Derek Schmidt's office.
Deputy Attorney General Jay Scott Emler, a former state Senate majority leader, was among those addressing the lawmakers, according to participants.
The briefing Tuesday came less than five months after a federal indictment charged a University of Kansas associate professor of secretly working for a Chinese university while doing research in Kansas on projects funded by the U.S. government.
The professor contends that a visiting scholar fabricated the allegations, and is trying to get the criminal charges dismissed.
The Kansas State University campus in northeast Kansas is home to a new, $1.25 billion national biosecurity lab that is expected to start operations by 2023.
The public disclosure of the security briefings Tuesday created an immediate buzz in the Statehouse.
Leaders in both parties said beforehand that they didn't know what the briefings were about and worried that they would be briefed on an emergency.
That turned out not to be the case.
House Democrats, who had the first briefing, said it involved general information about potential security threats.
Some of them even described the briefing as “routine” and “just education."
At least a few were disappointed.
“This was not handled well,” said Rep. John Carmichael, a Wichita Democrat. “Why didn't they just simply announce that legislators were going to receive a security briefing about various attempts of foreign intelligence services and others to make contacts with public officials and just explain it like that?”
Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley, another Topeka Democrat and the Legislature's longest-serving member, said he cannot recall a similar security briefing in his 44 years as a lawmaker.
Senators expect their briefings by next week.
House Minority Leader Tom Sawyer, a Wichita Democrat, whose public announcement in the chamber about when the first buses would leave set off the buzz, suggested afterward that an email to lawmakers might have sufficed.
“It's not worthy of all the to-do,” Sawyer said.
Emler said in a letter Tuesday to the Kansas House speaker that the briefings should be given in closed party caucuses, which are allowed under the state's open meetings law. House Democrats and Republicans then had separate briefings, just as Democrats and Republicans in the Senate will.
Emler's letter said only that the briefings concerned issues that legislators “may encounter in the course of their official duties.”
Carmichael said: “They told us, of course, that they don't want us telling the press what was said there, that it's none of the press' business."
Bones
Living On A Prayer
DHS gives Kansas legislators 'routine security briefing' at Forbes Field
Kansas Rep. Stephanie Clayton, representing the state's 19th district in Overland Park says the U.S. Department of Homeland Security provided a "routine briefing" at Forbes Field in Topeka.
OPEKA, Kan. (AP) — Update 3 p.m. Tuesday, Jan. 14, 2019
Kansas Rep. Stephanie Clayton, representing the state's 19th district in Overland Park says the U.S. Department of Homeland Security provided a "routine briefing" at Forbes Field in Topeka.
Rep. Clayton says legislators had a chance to tour the facility. There was no indication of a threat or safety emergency aimed at the state capitol.
-----
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security is giving Kansas legislators extraordinary private briefings about undisclosed security issues.
Kansas House members boarded National Guard buses Tuesday for a briefing at a former Air Force base south of Topeka involving DHS and arranged by Kansas Attorney General Derek Schmidt’s office. Democrats had a separate briefing first, followed by Republicans.
Reporters and staffers were not allowed on the buses before they left the Statehouse. Deputy Attorney General Jay Scott Emler, a former state Senate majority leader, said in a letter Tuesday to the Kansas House speaker that the briefings should be given in closed party caucuses, which are allowed under the state’s open meetings law.
Emler’s letter said only that the briefings concerned issues that legislators “may encounter in the course of their official duties.” Lawmakers knew little about the content ahead of time.
“We’re anticipating it’s something to do with cybersecurity, but we don’t know,” House Speaker Ron Ryckman Jr., a Kansas City-area Republican, told reporters ahead of the GOP briefing.
Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley, a Topeka Democrat and the Legislature’s longest-serving member, said he cannot recall a similar briefing in his 44 years as a lawmaker. Senators expect their DHS briefings by next week.
DHS briefs Kansas lawmakers on business, agriculture threats
Foreign governments are trying to get proprietary information about Kansas business and agricultural assets, state legislators heard Tuesday in extraordinary, secret briefings with a U. S. Department of Homeland Security official, according to participants. Lawmakers who attended one of the...
TOPEKA, Kan. — Foreign governments are trying to get proprietary information about Kansas business and agricultural assets, state legislators heard Tuesday in extraordinary, secret briefings with a U.S. Department of Homeland Security official, according to participants.
Lawmakers who attended one of the unclassified briefings also said they were warned to be careful about opening emails from foreign sources.
They also said they did not hear about immediate threats.
“We need to be careful in responding to people because everyone's looking for an in, some way, somehow,” said state Rep. Jim Gartner, a Topeka Democrat who attended the first briefing. “That was the gist of it.”
Legislators saw the briefings as highly unusual because they were conducted on a former Air Force base south of Topeka.
Lawmakers were required to ride to the site in unmarked and whitewashed National Guard buses, with lawmakers assigned to specific buses.
Staffers and reporters were not allowed to go.
Democratic Gov. Laura Kelly's administration acknowledged Tuesday that the briefings were set up at her request in coordination with the state's director of homeland security and Republican Kansas Attorney General Derek Schmidt's office.
Deputy Attorney General Jay Scott Emler, a former state Senate majority leader, was among those addressing the lawmakers, according to participants.
The briefing Tuesday came less than five months after a federal indictment charged a University of Kansas associate professor of secretly working for a Chinese university while doing research in Kansas on projects funded by the U.S. government.
The professor contends that a visiting scholar fabricated the allegations, and is trying to get the criminal charges dismissed.
The Kansas State University campus in northeast Kansas is home to a new, $1.25 billion national biosecurity lab that is expected to start operations by 2023.
The public disclosure of the security briefings Tuesday created an immediate buzz in the Statehouse.
Leaders in both parties said beforehand that they didn't know what the briefings were about and worried that they would be briefed on an emergency.
That turned out not to be the case.
House Democrats, who had the first briefing, said it involved general information about potential security threats.
Some of them even described the briefing as “routine” and “just education."
At least a few were disappointed.
“This was not handled well,” said Rep. John Carmichael, a Wichita Democrat. “Why didn't they just simply announce that legislators were going to receive a security briefing about various attempts of foreign intelligence services and others to make contacts with public officials and just explain it like that?”
Senate Minority Leader Anthony Hensley, another Topeka Democrat and the Legislature's longest-serving member, said he cannot recall a similar security briefing in his 44 years as a lawmaker.
Senators expect their briefings by next week.
House Minority Leader Tom Sawyer, a Wichita Democrat, whose public announcement in the chamber about when the first buses would leave set off the buzz, suggested afterward that an email to lawmakers might have sufficed.
“It's not worthy of all the to-do,” Sawyer said.
Emler said in a letter Tuesday to the Kansas House speaker that the briefings should be given in closed party caucuses, which are allowed under the state's open meetings law. House Democrats and Republicans then had separate briefings, just as Democrats and Republicans in the Senate will.
Emler's letter said only that the briefings concerned issues that legislators “may encounter in the course of their official duties.”
Carmichael said: “They told us, of course, that they don't want us telling the press what was said there, that it's none of the press' business."
This! ... . might be making a little more sense now.
Turret Buster
Gruntpa
I read somewhere that either Russian or the entire Soviet population didn't achieve pre WWII levels until sometime in the 70's.
Russia vs United States: People Facts and Stats
Population, Percent, Population aged 0-14, Population growth, past and future, Ethnic groups and 314 More Interesting Facts and Stats
www.nationmaster.com
Current US population = 317 million.