CRIME Seattle police shoot and kill a 67-year-old pedophile who showed up at a hotel to meet up with two girls, 7 and 11 years old.

summerthyme

Administrator
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Ya know, it just occurred to me. Just how dumb was this guy? He went to a motel room to meet a 7-year-old and an 11-year-old. Just how did he expect that children of that age could even rent a motel room, let alone pay for it? Or were they going to meet him while mommy and daddy were out?
I figured part of the "story" included a parent who was "arranging " things...

Considering the guy had a gun in hand, it sure looks like he might have been planning more than "just" a sexual encounter. I wonder if his DNA would match any homicides?

Summerthyme
 

jward

passin' thru
Ya know, it just occurred to me. Just how dumb was this guy? He went to a motel room to meet a 7-year-old and an 11-year-old. Just how did he expect that children of that age could even rent a motel room, let alone pay for it? Or were they going to meet him while mommy and daddy were out?
quite possibly he'd arranged the meeting with adult(s) who'd sold them; another horrible story in the news right now involves a woman who sold time with her small child to a monster for him to use for sex, who subsequently murdered the lil girl :bwl:
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
I get the adrenaline dump coinciding with the mag dump, but, there is a thing such as innocent bystanders getting hit by pass thru's and officer Rck O Shay. At the end he was shooting with people just out of the line of fire, down range...

So, on a safety level, mandated for the public, it was excessive and dangerous.

Adrenaline and target focus is logical and most likely to have played in.

Be interesting to know if he missed any shots, of if any did pass thru the structure and travel below that floor.
 

Reasonable Rascal

Veteran Member
quite possibly he'd arranged the meeting with adult(s) who'd sold them; another horrible story in the news right now involves a woman who sold time with her small child to a monster for him to use for sex, who subsequently murdered the lil girl :bwl:

I have a niece who a few years ago learned her husband of the time was a pedophile. Fortunately before he got to her daughters begotten prior to their marriage. He was arrested after planning to travel to MN from IA for an arranged visit with a child who was being 'sold' by her own mother. Somehow the communication was found out before the trip. My niece had zero clue.

RR
 

jward

passin' thru
I have a niece who a few years ago learned her husband of the time was a pedophile. Fortunately before he got to her daughters begotten prior to their marriage. He was arrested after planning to travel to MN from IA for an arranged visit with a child who was being 'sold' by her own mother. Somehow the communication was found out before the trip. My niece had zero clue.

RR
I'm glad we're not forced to understand just how common and everyday an occurrence such situations are- it's hard enough to breathe thru the emotional gut-punch as it is.

I hope your niece has found some peace, and somehow regained her ability to trust- men, and herself : (
 

Milkweed Host

Veteran Member
One might get the impression that some departments/supervisors have issued
off the record verbal commands, if you have to shoot, kill it.
 

Macgyver

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Before i saw the video I was betting this was a planted gun so they could remove the sicko from this earth. Why bring a gun to meet pre teen girls. Not that I'd have a problem with planting it on thos guy. Video does seem odd though. He is pulling gun, but in no hurry as he w o upd be if he was go8ng to use it.
Probably was going to off himself.
 

Kennori

Contributing Member
They empty the whole mag because there are drugs out there that make you invincible. These zombies can walk through a hail of bullets, feel no pain and think they are gods. If you don't hit multiple vital spots they will keep on coming. Spare the ammo and increase your chances of not coming home to the family tonight.
 

desertvet2

Veteran Member
Ahem...why all of those pistol rounds when 1 or 2 ...tactical load double aught bucks would have done him real good without all of the over expense of ammo?

Maybe cause his top have would have gone over the railing...?

Would have made a mess for sure.
 

naegling62

Veteran Member
Don’t get too excited, it’s Seattle. Wait for it…. Officers up on charges. City council proposing legislation to stop stings like this.

Now having said this, good shoot for the rest of us. Maybe those units could start using Mossberg Shockwaves.
 
I get the adrenaline dump coinciding with the mag dump, but, there is a thing such as innocent bystanders getting hit by pass thru's and officer Rck O Shay. At the end he was shooting with people just out of the line of fire, down range...

So, on a safety level, mandated for the public, it was excessive and dangerous.

Adrenaline and target focus is logical and most likely to have played in.

Be interesting to know if he missed any shots, of if any did pass thru the structure and travel below that floor.
Those floors are generally 6 inches of concrete. At an angle, doubt if any penetration. Walls, maybe.
 

Mark D

Now running for Emperor.
That was intentional blurring in the video. Notice his face isn't shown cleanly at the start and it continues to be blurred. At the end it was blurring the complete upper body.
Not the blurring; the obvious vapor at the end of the clip.
 
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Reasonable Rascal

Veteran Member
I'm glad we're not forced to understand just how common and everyday an occurrence such situations are- it's hard enough to breathe thru the emotional gut-punch as it is.

I hope your niece has found some peace, and somehow regained her ability to trust- men, and herself : (

She has moved on and settled on a fellow. Family likes him kids like him, things are good last I knew. The other guy was never a good fit as far as family was concerned. Guess we know why.

RR
 

Great Northwet

Veteran Member
Don’t get too excited, it’s Seattle. Wait for it…. Officers up on charges. City council proposing legislation to stop stings like this.

Now having said this, good shoot for the rest of us. Maybe those units could start using Mossberg Shockwaves.
I say there are enough of us left in Seattle to call it a good shoot. I've practiced at ranges with the cops. They are allowed to fast fire from the hip. I'd just shoot myself in the foot and I have training.

People think it's like the movies. there is so much stress involved that no one anticipates, that was a very difficult shoot for the cops.
 
I'm glad we're not forced to understand just how common and everyday an occurrence such situations are- it's hard enough to breathe thru the emotional gut-punch as it is.

I hope your niece has found some peace, and somehow regained her ability to trust- men, and herself : (
My wife was nearly raped by Grandad on her 7th birthday. She never enjoyed birthdays after that. If I could transform that reactionless drive into a Time Machine I would go back to visit him, with duct tape and zip ties.
 
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