Storing Preps when you live in an RV

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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The VERY FIRST THING I did upon taking delivery of my motorhome was to get a brand new home-quality orthopedic mattress from The Original Mattress Factory. I had to have it custom made (unless the master bedroom has a slide, the beds can't be longer than about 74" if you want to be able to walk around them). They had to remove two coils from the length. Cost me an extra $50 for a 74" (rather than an 80" which is standard length) mattress. Then I had to get "RV size" sheets (of which I got two sets; great quality BTW from the vendor I chose). Bottom line: if you're going to CAMP in one of these things for a couple weeks, the on-board mattresses are fine. But if you're going to LIVE in them, you're going to need a top-quality bed.

etdeb, so sorry to hear about your accident. Did you have extra weight in the back of the tow vehicle, or was the bed essentially unweighted. Than makes a big difference in stability. That's also a prime reason most people these days want 5th wheels, because of the inherent stability.
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
The VERY FIRST THING I did upon taking delivery of my motorhome was to get a brand new home-quality orthopedic mattress from The Original Mattress Factory. I had to have it custom made (unless the master bedroom has a slide, the beds can't be longer than about 74" if you want to be able to walk around them). They had to remove two coils from the length. Cost me an extra $50 for a 74" (rather than an 80" which is standard length) mattress. Then I had to get "RV size" sheets (of which I got two sets; great quality BTW from the vendor I chose). Bottom line: if you're going to CAMP in one of these things for a couple weeks, the on-board mattresses are fine. But if you're going to LIVE in them, you're going to need a top-quality bed.

etdeb, so sorry to hear about your accident. Did you have extra weight in the back of the tow vehicle, or was the bed essentially unweighted. Than makes a big difference in stability. That's also a prime reason most people these days want 5th wheels, because of the inherent stability.

A good mattress is almost the most important thing. After Katrina we bought memory foam knock offs from Walmart and slept like babies. The first time we moved out of the camper I bought another 12" foam mattress from Walmart for my double bed. I still have the single from after Katrina and I'm taking both of them with me with me. I know it will hang over a bit, but I can deal with that.

etdeb I'm shuddering just thinking about your accident. We could have pulled a lot more camper than we've ever had with DH F350 dually diesel. But we played it safe on the weight thing.

Judy
 

etdeb

Veteran Member
IT was totally a freak accident. We had stayed right on the weight and distribution rules for the RV, it was 35', we were going 55 and we knew that was our limit, but we were not a dully and also a short bed F350. We had been pulling a 5th wheel, then fell in love with the Residence, sold the 5th and went back to bumper pull, then totalled it and the truck.
I agree about replacing the mattress first thing. On the trailers I put in my park for rent, I replaced the master beds, they claimed to be queens but a full size premium mattress is what fit. These trailers are rented to working men and I wanted them to have a good rest.
 

Old Gray Mare

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Etdeb sorry to hear about the accident. Hope you and your family were able to walk away unhurt. I believe what you said about the trucks, just did not know that was a problem. What can an RV driver/owner do to avoid that? Slowing down to 35 on a 55 speed limit road is bound to piss off other drivers.

As to the original topic; I would not want my preps to be on display. Would it be safe, legal and possible to put in a false floor? In an RV I'd be leary of storing preps in a drop ceiling or in the walls for fear of throwing off the center of gravity. Another option would be to rent a storage unit in an home base area.
 

AustinPSD

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Etdeb sorry to hear about the accident. Hope you and your family were able to walk away unhurt. I believe what you said about the trucks, just did not know that was a problem. What can an RV driver/owner do to avoid that? Slowing down to 35 on a 55 speed limit road is bound to piss off other drivers.

As to the original topic; I would not want my preps to be on display. Would it be safe, legal and possible to put in a false floor? In an RV I'd be leary of storing preps in a drop ceiling or in the walls for fear of throwing off the center of gravity. Another option would be to rent a storage unit in an home base area.

In most RV's, the "designated" storage compartments are either at, or below floor level. In most travel trailers, there is floor level storage in the front of the rig, usually accessible from one to two outside compartment doors, and/or underneath the bed platform (in front bedroom rigs). The remaining interior "mid section" storage is underneath the sofa/sofa bed, dining table benches, and kitchen cabinets/drawers - this storage is fairly limited, probably thirty to forty cubic feet on most rigs. The rear section storage in a travel trailer depends on whether it is a bunk-house model or not, there are typically exterior accessible compartments on most floor plans that open to interior floor-level storage that resides under the bunks, or in some cases rear master/queen bed platform.

In fifth wheels, most of the storage is exterior accessible and underneath the walking/living floor on the large section of the trailer. Most of these rigs have a large exterior accessible compartment underneath the raised section at the front of the rig, and exterior storage compartments lining the "edges" of the rig. The number and size of these compartments varies significantly by rig floor plan and manufacturer. A fifth wheel is easier to overload than a travel trailer, and generally starts heavier as well, so if you plan to tow one, you need to pay careful attention to gross weight. The real issue is first and foremost the tow vehicle's braking capacity, followed by rear axle capacity.

Many fifth wheels need a full one-ton, dual rear wheel two vehicle to be safely towed, as they can range in gross weight from 12,000 lbs. to 25,000 lbs. when loaded.

If you pay attention to how the rig is loaded for towing, most of the stored material weight will be low in the rig, and fairly evenly distributed over the floor frame and axles. Heavy, dense items like ammunition, canned goods, and heavy tools can create load "hot spots", so you have to spread these things out in the storage compartments.

Careful loading can also disguise or conceal prep items, while still allowing you to access them reasonably fast. I use various tote boxes (Rubbermaid) and pack certain things in these containers surrounded by bedding, paper goods, seasonal clothing, etc. to conceal the contents that are problematic.

Firearms are a more difficult problem because of varied state laws (if you are mobile), and the fact that a firearms safe is very heavy and difficult to conceal. The most straight-forward solution involves some custom fabrication and use of the space under the master sleeping platform to create secure storage for long arms, handguns, etc. Think aluminum and either carpet tiles, linoleum or similar veneer... if you can cut and weld with TIG, this can be a DIY job, otherwise it is something you have to have fabricated and possibly installed. I did this job myself.
 

Old Gray Mare

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Thank you Austin. Unless we have a DEA agent on the board who can come up with somewhere or somehow else to conceal something in an RV I say you've pretty much covered it.
 

biere

Veteran Member
I don't have a camper and might take an enclosed storage trailer and make a toy hauler out of it so I keep looking at stuff and writing down ideas and mods folks have done.

With anything you buy you can crawl underneath and look at where open areas on the frame are.

With a camper you will generally have black and grey water tanks and some folks install larger tanks as well.

Some campers come with storage you can access using a panel inside the camper to let you into the box that is then built below floor level in the camper.

In some instances I would thing about making your own boxes using ammo cans to access using panels you cut in the floor if you feel comfortable doing this.

In other instances I would consider buying something that might be used as an add on black water tank and making it into camoflauge storage since most folks will avoid a black water tank.

If planning to cross borders then keep in mind how hidden storage might be examined while crossing the border.

I personally don't plan to cross borders into other countries and due to ccw laws there are some states where I probably won't ever visit either.

But it is something to consider.

Darn good thread, gave me some ideas for my house as well.

And I also agree with the comments about the memory foam mattress or real mattress. I lived a few decades using bad mattresses and a memory foam let me keep on doing that for the past 5 or so years. But I recently got a brand new mattress just like what I wanted and I am darn happy with it and if I get a camper and have to live in the camper the mattress is going with me.
 

etdeb

Veteran Member
If you are looking for new RV

I was just looking today and saw a RV called Puma , it had outdoor kitchen in the rear where some have toy haulers. That would bbe me choice if I decide to dare the RV life again. It is the cooking to heats the RV's up IMO. Another had a cool idea, exterior door from bathroom. That would be wonderful if you had kids, keeps the doors from flapping and kids out of the main interior. That and the outdoor kitchen that had a office size fridge for water and beverages, would be great.
 
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