CORONA The Vaccine?????

33dInd

Veteran Member
Im just an ole Okie, Former Military and Retired Cop.
To some people that means nothing to others a lot.
But puzzle me this.
Corona Virus, A corona Virus is akin to the common cold???? right which has afflicted us for eons. Yes????
So we cannot cure the common cold, a virus but we can develop a vaccine against this Corona 19 beer bug.
We cannot vaccinate against AIDS, a virus, but we can chemical cocktail you to a longer life.

If we cannot vaccinate against the FLU, which changes each year. then how can we vaccinate against the Corona 19 virus.
Im not medical by any sense of the word, but none of this adds up.
Just thinking before my bourbon coffee is all.
 

BassMan

Veteran Member
I would only add a couple of questions:
  • Are the "spikes" that attach to ACE2 thought to be stable?
  • Is the mRNA technology able to provide immunity not possible via more conventional methods?
 

et2

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The virus is real and man made to set off the agenda they’re planning for us all. Global reset, the destruction of our country and countries as we know it. Masks are used to condition us along with the lock downs. The more power we give them the more power we lose. The coming 2nd round of lockdowns will usher in addition to CV19 crisis ... a mental health crisis. Keep watching the news. They’re already starting to discuss this as after effects of being locked up and masked. This will be used to implement the gun grab .... my opinion of course. For keeping us from going nuts and using them on people.

The answer to all your questions are spot on. They can’t. How convenient all of a sudden! Miraculous cure. But the vaccine will be the Trojan horse they will inject into your body to make sure they can make you dependent upon the government controlling us for future viruses they create. The key to unlocking your DNA thru RNA programming. Once they start programming your DNA ... they can do anything they want to you. This is my opinion of course.

Listen carefully though ... they aren’t confident that the vaccine is going to be 100% effective and might require ... periodic additional shots after the fact. We’re hearing ... 95% - 98% possibility of working. On who, are older people still vulnerable, are they going to tell the public exactly how this vaccine works ( would be a epic failure if so). What are the long term implications on a huge scale? What are side effects?

Understand this ... surviving the CV19 without any so called vaccine is almost 99%. So why inject a DNA altering vaccine that is already a failure ( 95% -98%) compared to your body’s own biological defense. The cure GOD gave us.
 

bobby.knight

Senior Member
First: why would I want to take a vaccine to avoid getting a virus that is 99.7% curable?

I suggest all who read this look up interview with Christiane Northrup.
The original video was removed.
The media has already claimed that her report is all false. (boomlive)

I don't believe any mainstream media bullshit.
I have to believe her because what does she have to gain from exposing this vaccine.
So far from what I have read it will change your DNA when mixing your DNA with that of either an aborted fetus (human) or with a pig. It's called a Chimera.
  • CHIMERA - A chimera is essentially a single organism that's made up of cells from two or more "individuals" — that is, it contains two sets of DNA, with the code to make two separate organisms.
Also if this is false why does the following:
  • PATENT NUMBER 060606 - Patent WO/2020/060606 was registered on 26 March 2020. The patent application was filed by Microsoft Technology Licensing, LLC, headed by Bill Gates, back on 20 June 2019, and, on 22 April 2020, the patent was granted international status. The title of the patent is “Cryptocurrency system using body activity data”.
What is worse though that there is a patent and work that they have done at MIT to make a dye, and the patent of the dye is called LUCIFERASE and under a light you will be able to see who is vaccinated and who wasn’t. The deal is to store your biometric information because this vaccine will have nano-particles, nano-crystalline particles that are intentionally little robots and they have little antennas will have the ability to take your biometric data.

Don't take my word do your own research.
The last thing she stated when the interviewer "asked what can we do".
Her response was get down on your knees and pray, pray, pray,
 

exiled2tx

Inactive
Coming from a scientific background:
First I'm not in favor of the government mandating vaccines of any sort. That however is different than thinking that people should avail them themselves of technology, such as vaccines, if available.

But several comments on the above thread:
So far, the two first finishers so to speak on the vaccine are using m-RNA technology. However, other companies are using other technologies to combat the virus, including some more conventional techniques. And Astra-Zeneca (Adenvirus from chimpanzee technology) is saying that they should be done with it by the end of the year. Johnson & Johnson is reportedly close. If you are really worried about the m-RNA technology, then wait for one of the more conventional ones. Me - I worry more about the company making it than I do the technology. The Chinese (Sinovac) are just using real old fashioned technology - an inactivated (dead?) virus. I would not touch that despite the technology because their testing is not up to the level of those in the US and perhaps parts of Europe.

Can the corona virus mutate such that it could make the vaccines ineffective? Well, all viruses can mutate. We don't have enough experience with corona to know - it would be nice to have the three-four years to study it but I'd rather get something out there quickly. And just like they can redo a flu vaccine pretty quick for every year's flu, once the corona vaccines are done, I'm guessing that they could be fine tuned to follow mutations.

Why get it? I just got a shingles shot. I do not know of anyone who has died from shingles. I do know people who have been in a lot of pain until they naturally healed. My DD had corona among others that I know who have recovered. Just as I prefer to avoid the pain of shingles, I'd prefer not to get the corona symptoms for a week even with a full recovery.

The flu vaccine is about 50-60% effective. I'm not sure if that is because it just is or is the flu virus changing too quick or if the vaccine missed one of this year's strains. The FDA criteria for a corona vaccine was 50% effective. I think the 90+% was a surprise.

One of the companies (A-Z but don't quote me on this) said that their vaccine was 94% effective in people 64 and over.

I didn't look up that video / interview. I did call up that patent. First, it belongs to Microsoft not Bill Gates nor his foundation. Second, when I read it (and I'm not an expert on reading patents), it sounded like more using something like an Apple Watch or Fitbit and a way to reward the user for his activity.


While all technology has risks, sometimes you have to move forward. I assume that people here are driving cars rather than riding horses despite the greater risk of death from accidents.

[ETA - while I would not anticipate dying from Corona, we are taking care of elderly parents. They would not survive a bout with it so another reason to be vaccinated would be to not bring it home to them]
 
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Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
All I can tell ya is watch the early adopters and see if it works. :shr:

There will be thousands of guinea pigs coming into the pipeline, next couple months.


Two questions:

1. Since there are SEVERAL versions--how would you KNOW what "version" THEY got, vs. what the PTB want YOU to take?

2. What is "already" out there, that seems to make it apparent that you DON'T get it if you're a high-level or "very important" lib, or even just part of the "masses" protesting with antifa / BLM---but high-level REPUBLICAN officials (Trump, his son, Kellly Leoffler), and supporters (Herman Cain) ARE getting it in highly disproportionate numbers?
 

Coulter

Veteran Member
This is supposedly a whistle blower on the vaccine (British). I have no clue to it's accuracy.
This guy claims that the vaccine will make one sterile - just another claim to what the vaccine "may" do.
I have heard many bad things about this vaccine - but not this particular one.

RT 11 minutes but the main part is around 3:30 - 8:15

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heB3FnXyCI
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
and haven't they been telling us that the antibodies are not reliable since many people that tested positive for covid don't seem to have antibodies?

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Troke

On TB every waking moment
This is supposedly a whistle blower on the vaccine (British). I have no clue to it's accuracy.
This guy claims that the vaccine will make one sterile - just another claim to what the vaccine "may" do.
I have heard many bad things about this vaccine - but not this particular one.

RT 11 minutes but the main part is around 3:30 - 8:15

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heB3FnXyCI
When they started handing out atabrine (?) for anti-malarial to the Marines in WWII, the word was it would make you sterile.

Nothing new under the sun
 

exiled2tx

Inactive
Two questions:

1. Since there are SEVERAL versions--how would you KNOW what "version" THEY got, vs. what the PTB want YOU to take?

2. What is "already" out there, that seems to make it apparent that you DON'T get it if you're a high-level or "very important" lib, or even just part of the "masses" protesting with antifa / BLM---but high-level REPUBLICAN officials (Trump, his son, Kellly Leoffler), and supporters (Herman Cain) ARE getting it in highly disproportionate numbers?

(1) I anticipate that you could ask - just like I saw which of the several companies made my flu vaccine.

(2) That is simply a case of the haves using their power / money / influence to put themselves ahead. Early on, I remember reading about one of the ritzy islands near Miami which was staying COVID free. How? They had enough test kits to test all residents even though they were in short supply at places like hospitals.
 

Border Collie Dad

Flat Earther
hunybee said:
and haven't they been telling us that the antibodies are not reliable since many people that tested positive for covid don't seem to have antibodies?

Could there be several possibilities to this?
Maybe the test is flawed?
Maybe all those "asymptomatics" don't have anything?
Maybe this isn't about a virus?
If there are no antibodies, was there infection?
 
Coming from a scientific background:
First I'm not in favor of the government mandating vaccines of any sort. That however is different than thinking that people should avail them themselves of technology, such as vaccines, if available.

But several comments on the above thread:
So far, the two first finishers so to speak on the vaccine are using m-RNA technology. However, other companies are using other technologies to combat the virus, including some more conventional techniques. And Astra-Zeneca (Adenvirus from chimpanzee technology) is saying that they should be done with it by the end of the year. Johnson & Johnson is reportedly close. If you are really worried about the m-RNA technology, then wait for one of the more conventional ones. Me - I worry more about the company making it than I do the technology. The Chinese (Sinovac) are just using real old fashioned technology - an inactivated (dead?) virus. I would not touch that despite the technology because their testing is not up to the level of those in the US and perhaps parts of Europe.

Can the corona virus mutate such that it could make the vaccines ineffective? Well, all viruses can mutate. We don't have enough experience with corona to know - it would be nice to have the three-four years to study it but I'd rather get something out there quickly. And just like they can redo a flu vaccine pretty quick for every year's flu, once the corona vaccines are done, I'm guessing that they could be fine tuned to follow mutations.

Why get it? I just got a shingles shot. I do not know of anyone who has died from shingles. I do know people who have been in a lot of pain until they naturally healed. My DD had corona among others that I know who have recovered. Just as I prefer to avoid the pain of shingles, I'd prefer not to get the corona symptoms for a week even with a full recovery.

The flu vaccine is about 50-60% effective. I'm not sure if that is because it just is or is the flu virus changing too quick or if the vaccine missed one of this year's strains. The FDA criteria for a corona vaccine was 50% effective. I think the 90+% was a surprise.

One of the companies (A-Z but don't quote me on this) said that their vaccine was 94% effective in people 64 and over.

I didn't look up that video / interview. I did call up that patent. First, it belongs to Microsoft not Bill Gates nor his foundation. Second, when I read it (and I'm not an expert on reading patents), it sounded like more using something like an Apple Watch or Fitbit and a way to reward the user for his activity.


While all technology has risks, sometimes you have to move forward. I assume that people here are driving cars rather than riding horses despite the greater risk of death from accidents.

[ETA - while I would not anticipate dying from Corona, we are taking care of elderly parents. They would not survive a bout with it so another reason to be vaccinated would be to not bring it home to them]
As a person "coming from a scientific background," you are remiss in discussing other factors and preventative measures - co-morbidities, of which there are several, and some of which are the result of individual lifestyle "choices" (meaning that choosing healthier alternatives would positively impact one's overall health profile), as well as preventative supplements and alternative treatment protocols.

Let's not allow our perspective to become narrowed by thinking that, since a hammer is all that is in the tool box, therefore everything becomes a nail.


intothegoodnight
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
I’ve posted this on other threads. I think the world needs to know why there’s never been a successful corona virus vaccine:

MAY 18, 2020
COVID-19: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Del Bigtree Talk About the Vaccine

Link copied


Are vaccines the answer to the Coronavirus outbreak? Don’t miss this special episode of Table Talk as Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and DelBigtree join host Joni Lamb at the table discussing vaccinations and the truth behind their planned use against COVID-19.

Transcript: The Coronavirus Vaccine Uncensored | Robert F. Kennedy Jr. & Del Bigtree

Robert Kennedy, Jr.:
The government has been trying for almost thirty years to develop a coronavirus vaccine, and it’s been unsuccessful.

“Beginning in 2002 there were three outbreaks of coronavirus. We called them SARS at that point and MERS.

“The first SARS was a natural illness. It jumped from a bat to human beings. The second two were lab created that escaped and infected human beings. So the governments of China and a consortium of western governments all got together and put millions and millions of dollars into an effort to develop a coronavirus vaccine.

“Between 2002 and 2012, 2014, they worked very hard to do that, and what happened is they developed about 35 vaccines. Four of them were really promising. They chose the four most promising, and they gave them to ferrets, which is the animal that is most analogous when it comes to upper lung respiratory infections.

“The ferrets had a brilliant, robust and durable antibody response. Then something horrible happened. When those ferrets were challenged, when they were exposed to the wild virus they got horribly sick. They got inflammation throughout their bodies, and they died.

“The scientists remembered that something very similar had happened in the 1960s where they had developed a virus for RSV, which is very similar to coronavirus. It’s an upper respiratory infection, ailment.

“They had skipped the animals and given them directly to 35 children, and the children again had developed a very robust antibody response. But when those children were exposed to the wild virus, they got very, very sick, much sicker than the unvaccinated children. And two of those kids had died. It was a scandal.

“They realized when this same thing happened with the ferrets, that there was something that they called enhanced immune response. It’s also called pathogenic priming.

“What it means is that when you get the vaccine, it appears that you have an antibody response. But when you actually encounter the wild virus, you actually become much sicker, and it actually creates a pathway that that virus hurts you a lot more than with unvaccinated people.

“So this was 2012. In 2014, NIH, under Fauci, developed a Dengue vaccine which had some signals in it that there was pathogenic priming. In other words, in the clinical trials they saw some signs that you could get an antibody response but get much sicker when you were exposed, but they ignored them.

“They gave it to the Philippines, and they gave hundreds of thousands of children this vaccine, and when the Dengue came around those children became horribly ill and 600 of them died.

“In the Philippines today people are being criminally prosecuted for that.

“The danger with the coronavirus vaccine is that you really need to test on animals first to make sure whatever the vaccine is, that we don’t get that really great immune response followed by lethal infections.

“It’s very, very strange to me, and it seems almost criminally reckless that Anthony Fauci is allowing these companies to skip animal trials and to go directly to human trials.”


Del Bigtree: “I think if you think about it too, how dangerous that is. …Every scientist involved says we don’t know why this antibody immune enhancement reaction happens. They don’t know why it happens.

“So imagine you have a hundred companies right now in this amazing race to make a vaccine that could literally make them about $750 billion if they win it.

“But what happens if they’re testing it on a virus, right? They’re going after a specific virus. We now have 30 mutations already of coronavirus, some of them very significant changes in the protein.

“What happens if you made a vaccine that actually gets over this problem, that they know is a problem. Tony Fauci is saying publicly there’s a chance that this could make people more sick, so we have to be very careful.

“What happens if they think they got around it, right? And they put out the vaccine. Bill Gates gets his wish and Tony Fauci that everyone is forced to take it around the world. Then all of a sudden a mutation comes around and we start seeing it trigger this antibody immune enhancement in people that are vaccinated.

“Only problem now is we’ve all gotten this vaccine, and now we’re not having a .1 to .3 percent death rate. It’s 20 percent or 30 percent. People are having the same issue as the ferrets.

“You could honestly wipe out our species with a vaccine that was rushed to market, that didn’t do proper safety testing, and that’s exactly what they’re describing this as.

“They’re putting two of the most dangerous words together in every article about this vaccine: RUSHING and SCIENCE.


“Those two words should never be in a sentence together.”
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment
The two RNA vaccines do not use fetal tissue like the British Astra Zeneca one. The RNA technology is new. Go look at the last two MedCram videos for specific info. (The COVID-19 virus itself, is an RNA virus.

Coronavirus Update 116: Pfizer COVID 19 Vaccine Explained (Biontech)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jwBxZMWrng
22:31 min

Coronavirus Update 117: Moderna vs. Pfizer COVID 19 Vaccine (mRNA vaccines)
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZvsqBCvB00
15:43 min

It is telling that the Trump Administration wants to immunize health care workers first and the vulnerable (aged, co-morbidities) second, while Biden wants to preclude wasting vaccine on anyone over 75 because they no longer contribute to society. One values every individual life, the other- the collective.
 

Groucho

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I’ve posted this on other threads. I think the world needs to know why there’s never been a successful corona virus vaccine:

MAY 18, 2020
COVID-19: Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Del Bigtree Talk About the Vaccine

Link copied


Are vaccines the answer to the Coronavirus outbreak? Don’t miss this special episode of Table Talk as Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and DelBigtree join host Joni Lamb at the table discussing vaccinations and the truth behind their planned use against COVID-19.

Transcript: The Coronavirus Vaccine Uncensored | Robert F. Kennedy Jr. & Del Bigtree

Robert Kennedy, Jr.:
The government has been trying for almost thirty years to develop a coronavirus vaccine, and it’s been unsuccessful.

“Beginning in 2002 there were three outbreaks of coronavirus. We called them SARS at that point and MERS.

“The first SARS was a natural illness. It jumped from a bat to human beings. The second two were lab created that escaped and infected human beings. So the governments of China and a consortium of western governments all got together and put millions and millions of dollars into an effort to develop a coronavirus vaccine.

“Between 2002 and 2012, 2014, they worked very hard to do that, and what happened is they developed about 35 vaccines. Four of them were really promising. They chose the four most promising, and they gave them to ferrets, which is the animal that is most analogous when it comes to upper lung respiratory infections.

“The ferrets had a brilliant, robust and durable antibody response. Then something horrible happened. When those ferrets were challenged, when they were exposed to the wild virus they got horribly sick. They got inflammation throughout their bodies, and they died.

“The scientists remembered that something very similar had happened in the 1960s where they had developed a virus for RSV, which is very similar to coronavirus. It’s an upper respiratory infection, ailment.

“They had skipped the animals and given them directly to 35 children, and the children again had developed a very robust antibody response. But when those children were exposed to the wild virus, they got very, very sick, much sicker than the unvaccinated children. And two of those kids had died. It was a scandal.

“They realized when this same thing happened with the ferrets, that there was something that they called enhanced immune response. It’s also called pathogenic priming.

“What it means is that when you get the vaccine, it appears that you have an antibody response. But when you actually encounter the wild virus, you actually become much sicker, and it actually creates a pathway that that virus hurts you a lot more than with unvaccinated people.

“So this was 2012. In 2014, NIH, under Fauci, developed a Dengue vaccine which had some signals in it that there was pathogenic priming. In other words, in the clinical trials they saw some signs that you could get an antibody response but get much sicker when you were exposed, but they ignored them.

“They gave it to the Philippines, and they gave hundreds of thousands of children this vaccine, and when the Dengue came around those children became horribly ill and 600 of them died.

“In the Philippines today people are being criminally prosecuted for that.

“The danger with the coronavirus vaccine is that you really need to test on animals first to make sure whatever the vaccine is, that we don’t get that really great immune response followed by lethal infections.

“It’s very, very strange to me, and it seems almost criminally reckless that Anthony Fauci is allowing these companies to skip animal trials and to go directly to human trials.”


Del Bigtree: “I think if you think about it too, how dangerous that is. …Every scientist involved says we don’t know why this antibody immune enhancement reaction happens. They don’t know why it happens.

“So imagine you have a hundred companies right now in this amazing race to make a vaccine that could literally make them about $750 billion if they win it.

“But what happens if they’re testing it on a virus, right? They’re going after a specific virus. We now have 30 mutations already of coronavirus, some of them very significant changes in the protein.

“What happens if you made a vaccine that actually gets over this problem, that they know is a problem. Tony Fauci is saying publicly there’s a chance that this could make people more sick, so we have to be very careful.

“What happens if they think they got around it, right? And they put out the vaccine. Bill Gates gets his wish and Tony Fauci that everyone is forced to take it around the world. Then all of a sudden a mutation comes around and we start seeing it trigger this antibody immune enhancement in people that are vaccinated.

“Only problem now is we’ve all gotten this vaccine, and now we’re not having a .1 to .3 percent death rate. It’s 20 percent or 30 percent. People are having the same issue as the ferrets.

“You could honestly wipe out our species with a vaccine that was rushed to market, that didn’t do proper safety testing, and that’s exactly what they’re describing this as.

“They’re putting two of the most dangerous words together in every article about this vaccine: RUSHING and SCIENCE.


“Those two words should never be in a sentence together.”

If this actually happens, does anybody think the "press" will report it? The people will be blissfully ignorant while they stand in line to get their "life saving" vaccine shot.

Good night, sweet children; Good night.
 
All I can tell ya is watch the early adopters and see if it works. :shr:

There will be thousands of guinea pigs coming into the pipeline, next couple months.
Yes i'm waiting to see people drop dead like flies when they get the shot. I read that it will cause auto immune problems and they won't even know until many months later. I've not been on here in awhile. I been using the i phone to read and i don't know how to reply on the phone and i forgot my password. This computer is in the back bedroom where it's colder so i stay in the warm front room and read on the phone.
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
If this actually happens, does anybody think the "press" will report it?

No, they will not. Here’s what will happen. It will be blamed on covid. I have seen it all the time in nursing homes. Flu vaccines are given, in a month, flu outbreak. The nurses will say, oh they were already exposed to the flu before their shots (even this no one was sick) OR, they didn’t get the shot early enough (then give the vax earlier). Every, damn year, same excuses. And let’s not forget the Pentagon report that the flu shot increases your risk by 36% of contracting corona virus. Look how the flu shot was pushed this year.




By Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Chairman, Children’s Health Defense
Published on: Apr 26, 2020

On March 12th, 2020, Anderson Cooper and Dr. Sanjay Gupta held a global town hall on “Corona Facts and Fears.” During the discussion, Anderson said to the viewing audience, “And, again, if you are concerned about coronavirus, and you haven’t gotten a flu shot…you should get a flu shot.”

Setting safety and efficacy of influenza vaccination aside, is Anderson’s claim that the flu shot will help people fight COVID-19 remotely true? The short answer is no.

In fact, the results of many peer-reviewed, published studies prove that Anderson’s recommendation may have been the worst advice he could have given the public.

In searching the literature, the only study we have been able to find assessing flu shots and coronavirus is a 2020 US Pentagon study that found that the flu shot INCREASES the risks from coronavirus by 36%. “Receiving influenza vaccination may increase the risk of other respiratory viruses, a phenomenon known as “virus interference…’vaccine derived’ virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus…” Here are the findings:

2020 Pentagon study: Flu vaccines increase risk of coronavirus by 36%
Examining non-influenza viruses specifically, the odds of coronavirus in vaccinated individuals were significantly higher when compared to unvaccinated individuals with an odds ratio (association between an exposure and an outcome) of 1.36. In other words, the vaccinated were 36% more likely to get coronavirus.
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Many other studies suggest the increased risk of viral respiratory infections from the flu shot:

2018 CDC Study: Flu shots increase risk of non-flu acute respiratory illnesses (ARI) in children.

This CDC supported study concluded an increased risk of acute respiratory illness (ARI) among children <18 years caused by non-influenza respiratory pathogens post-influenza vaccination compared to unvaccinated children during the same period.
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2011 Australian Study: Flu shot doubled risk of non-influenza viral infections and increased flu risk by 73%.
A prospective case-control study in healthy young Australian children found that seasonal flu shots doubled their risk of illness from non-influenza virus infections. Overall, the vaccine increased the risk of virus-associated acute respiratory illness, including influenza, by 73%.
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2012 Hong Kong Study: Flu shots increased the risk of non-flu respiratory infections 4.4 times and tripled flu infections.
A randomized placebo-controlled trial in Hong Kong children found that flu shots increased the risk of non-influenza viral ARIs fivefold (OR 4.91,CI 1.04—8.14) and, including influenza, tripled the overall viral ARI risk (OR 3.17, CI 1.04—9.83).
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2017 Study: Vaccinated children are 5.9 more likely to suffer pneumonia and 30.1 times more likely to have been diagnosed with Allergic Rhinitis than unvaccinated children.
Vaccinated children were 30.1 times more likely to have been diagnosed with Allergic Rhinitis and 5.9 times more likely to have been diagnosed with pneumonia than unvaccinated children.
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2014 Study: Influenza-vaccinated children were 1.6 times more likely than unvaccinated children to have a non-influenza “Influenza-like-illness” (ILI).
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Even more published science
The well-respected Cochrane Collaboration’s comprehensive 2010 meta-analysis of published influenza vaccine studies found that the influenza vaccination has “no effect” on hospitalization, and that there is “no evidence that vaccines prevent viral transmission or complications.” The Cochrane Researchers concluded that the scientific evidence “seem to discourage the utilization of vaccination against influenza in healthy adults as a routine public health measure.”

In their meta-analysis, the Cochrane researchers accused the CDC of deliberately misrepresenting the science in order to support their universal influenza vaccination recommendation.

Nevertheless, CNN and other mainstream media outlets continually broadcast CDC pronouncements as gospel and, ironically, ridicules those of us who actually read the science as “purveyors of ‘vaccine misinformation”.
 

FaithfulSkeptic

Carrying the mantle of doubt
This is supposedly a whistle blower on the vaccine (British). I have no clue to it's accuracy.
This guy claims that the vaccine will make one sterile - just another claim to what the vaccine "may" do.
I have heard many bad things about this vaccine - but not this particular one.

RT 11 minutes but the main part is around 3:30 - 8:15

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heB3FnXyCI
This may not be a bad thing depending on where you start your community trials.
 

dstraito

TB Fanatic
Make no mistake. Corona was released as a bio weapon to get the mass population to conform to actions that will fulfill the Globalist agenda. Call it woo, time will tell. By the time the actions start taking effect, it will be too late to do anything about it for the masses.

I am sure there will be a lot of people opting out for the vaccine. That is when the more lethal version will be released and people will be walking along and just drop dead. Then people will be begging to get the vaccine. Shortly after they reach a target percentage they will release the component that will activate it, maybe 5G, maybe something else.

About that time they will make the vaccine mandatory with the side agenda of elimination people who are non-compliant.

They have the resources, the organization and the agenda.

The people have most sheeple with not nearly enough people that believe this could actually happen so organizing opposition will be very hard.
 
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